Saves load order does not correspond with the showed load order in the mod managers.

supercaca · July 7, 2017

I use wrye bash and nexus mod manager.

I install from nexus mod manager and see the things are going with the wrye bash.

The thing is, that i´m having one dlc load order showed in the mods managers load order.

Like this:

00 Fallout4.esm
01 DLCRobot.esm
02 DLCworkshop01.esm
03 DLCCoast.esm
04 DLCWorkshop02.esm
05 DLCWorkshop03.esm
06 DLCNukaWorld.esm
07 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp [Version 2.0.1a]
08 ConcealedArmor.esm
09 SimSettlements.esm
0A ArmorKeywords.esm
0B Worsin's Garage.esm
0C four_play_resources.esm
0D HUDFramework.esm
0E Snappy_HouseK.esp
0F TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
10 ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion-VanillaWeight.esp
11 ValdacilsItemSorting-CosmeticsByClass.esp
12 Armorsmith Extended.esp
13 MirandaOutfit.esp
14 DX Courser X-92 Power Suit.esp
15 1nivDX Courser X-92 Power Suit Male.esp
16 FemsheppingsSkyrimConversions_PetrovichJewelry.esp
17 Crafting Workbench.esp
18 Quieter Settlements - Contraptions.esp
19 Evil Detective Outfit.esp
1A Kerrigan.esp
1B HouseDress1Fix.esp
1C Animu Hair.esp
1D NoraSpouse.esp
1E Crafting Workbenches - Automatron DLC.esp
1F Vault Meat Paintings.esp
20 wasterArmor.esp
21 Quieter Settlements - Vanilla.esp
22 LegendaryModification.esp
23 AkaSinger.esp
24 KSHairdos.esp
25 Rylee's Wasteland Tycoon.esp
26 Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp
27 WBO-Automatron.esp
28 BuildableBurningCampfires.esp
29 MonnoBikini.esp
2A Unique NPCs.esp
2B Quieter Settlements - Wasteland Workshop.esp
2C rpampas.esp
2D AA FusionCityRising.esp
2E AA FusionCityRising - HotC.esp
2F Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp
30 VeryRichMerchants.esp
31 WIPAG - Paint Garage - Full (Hard).esp
32 NanoSuit.esp
33 AkaSingersWardrobe.esp
34 FP_Autonomy.esp
35 JC-Shirt and Jeans.esp
36 MiscHairstyle.esp
37 LongerPowerLines3x.esp
38 AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
39 NanoSuit_AWKCR_AE.esp
3A AA FCR Companion Locator.esp
3B CompetitionSwimsuit.esp
3C FemsheppingsPorts_LeahLilithAndKalilies_AWKCR_AE.esp
3D LMBTOverlays.esp
3E FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp
3F LegendaryModificationMisc.esp
40 RealTroughs.esp
41 JamiesArmor.esp
42 Crafting Workbenches - Faction and Quest Requirements.esp
43 AsharaFO4UnderArmours.esp
44 DanLi_VaultExplorer.esp
45 KerriganColorChange.esp
46 Vivid Weathers - FO4.esp
47 Vivid Weathers - Natural Bright.esp
48 Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Far Harbor.esp
49 DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp
4A ProtoLining.esp
4B CROSS_GoreCrits.esp
4C CROSS_GoreCrits_FarHarborPatch.esp
4D HN66Fo4_EasyGirl_BS.esp
4E BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp
4F chem redux.esp
50 VIS-PatchChemRedux.esp
51 BlackRoseRedux.esp
52 SettlementMenuManager.esp
53 Snappy_DecoKit.esp
54 FunctionalDisplays.esp
55 FunctionalDisplays-AID-VIS.esp
56 Crafting Workbenches - Far Harbor DLC.esp
57 KerriganGlasses.esp
58 D.E.C.A.Y.esp
59 Northland Diggers New.esp
5A WIPAG - Decal Station.esp
5B OutcastsAndRemnants.esp
5C JibsResidentialAddOnPack.esp
5D keke-bu All-in-one Pack_1.1.7.esp
5E BetterSettlers.esp
5F BetterSettlersCleanFacePack.esp
60 BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.esp
61 BetterSettlersMortalSoldiersPack.esp
62 BetterSettlersFarHarborPatch.esp
63 RaiderOverhaul.esp
64 WBO.esp
65 SuperMutantOverhaul.esp
66 Vivid Waters.esp
67 UniqueUniques.esp
68 Altairp's Animal Farm.esp
69 powerarmort49.esp
6A FP_FamilyPlanning.esp
6B SimHomestead.esp
6C SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Defences_Brae.esp
6D ruined_simsettlement_addonpack.esp
6E TrailerParkDreams.esp
6F DelyteOutfits.esp
70 BioshockInspiredPowerArmor.esp
71 FP_Violate.esp
72 FP_Prostitution.esp
73 Rangergearnew.esp
74 SkyrimInspiredPowerArmor.esp
75 SkyrimConversions.esp
76 WVSimSAddon.esp
77 SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Utilities_JtBryant.esp
78 PCDugSIMAddon.esp
79 DWT_MegaMerchants.esp
7A _Gurl.esp
7B DiverseBodies.esp
7C Vinfamy_CP.esp
7D EnclaveX02.esp
7E Crazy_Multi-Tool.esp
7F Tina's Candy Land.esp
80 AsharaFO4Cyborg.esp
81 IndustrialCity_Sim_Settlements_Addon.esp
82 PCDugWedges.esp
83 IncreasedSettlerPopulation50.esp
84 kevbal.esp
85 Extended weapon mods.esp
86 Raider Overhaul - AE Patch-Restored Content-VIS.esp
87 ValdacilsItemSorting-Weapons.esp
88 ValdacilsItemSorting-ArmorByClass.esp
89 MODGirlyAnimation.esp
8A GITS_suit_by_OniNigma.esp
8B rfortaleza2.esp
8C rfortaleza2_AE.esp
8D Vivid Weathers - Nuka World.esp
8E LooksMirror.esp
8F Sun's VK Sweaters AtomicBeauty.esp
90 WBO-Extended Weapon Mods.esp
91 tschutschiSpearheadCatsuit.esp
92 FunctionalDisplays-Collectibles.esp
93 FunctionalDisplays-MISC-VIS.esp
94 WIPAG - Model-X.esp
95 Toxic Raider Armour.esp
96 xy - Misty Outfit.esp
97 FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC-ALL-VIS.esp
98 UniquePlayer.esp
99 dD-Enhanced Blood.esp
9A Ranger-Arm.esp
9B hi_bettergardens.esp
9C Eli Armor Compendium AE VIS Patch.esp
9D tank_PA.esp
9E LegendaryModificationGroknak.esp
9F FP_VanillaFudge.esp
A0 DX Vault Girl Shorts.esp
A1 UniqueFollowers.esp
A2 My_Minutemen.esp
A3 SimSettlements_AddOnPack_SimTowers_JtBryant.esp
A4 combat_PA.esp
A5 SurvivalTransitionSave.esp
A6 SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Foundations_JtBryant.esp
A7 slootyVaultSuit.esp
A8 EveryonesBestFriend.esp
A9 SundayMorninMiniGames.esp
AA LooksMenu.esp
AB Dongs_Of_Fallout.esp
AC DWT_Cricket_and_Guards.esp
AD Sandbag Fortifications - Version 2C.esp
AE LegendaryModification2LM.esp
AF LegendaryModification2LMAKPatch.esp
B0 tank_PA - AWKCR - VIS AbC.esp
B1 Better Vendor Stalls.esp
B2 TransferSettlements.esp
B3 Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Expanded.esp
B4 Crafting Workbenches - Power Armor.esp
B5 Harness-calyps.esp
B6 four_play.esp
B7 SimSettlements_XPAC_IndustrialRevolution.esp
B8 WIPAG - Materials Overhaul.esp
B9 FALLOUT4WT.esp
BA WIPAG - Mod Overhaul.esp
BB WIPAG - ArmorKeywords Compatibility Patch.esp
BC Armorsmith All DLCs Patch.esp
BD ConcealedArmor.esp
BE AtomicBeauty.esp
BF Synth Overhaul.esp
C0 Synth Overhaul - White Patch.esp
C1 Weapons of Fate.esp
C2 CBBE.esp
C3 Unique NPCs-LMSE Equipment.esp
C4 BetterSettlersFarHarborMortalPack.esp
C5 WBO-Weapons of Fate.esp
C6 LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
C7 MisfitInk.esp
C8 AsharaFO4Steampunk.esp
C9 combat_PA - AWKCR - VIS AbC.esp
CA xy - Jumpsuits.esp
CB LevelUpOptionsHolotape.esp
CC LegendaryModificationCSA.esp
CD Unique NPCs-MortalSettlers.esp
CE BobbleGirl.esp
CF WastelandGirlArmor.esp
D0 Companion.esp
D1 Unique Followers - UF4 Patch.esp
D2 companion_Cait_HfSM.esp
D3 Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp
D4 ScrapUpdate - Ultimate.esp

And all is super B corretly, but the thing is when i go to the saves tab. I always go there from time to time to erase the old saves, to prevent the saving bloat of the folder. and the thing is that my saves are "orange" !!! so i look in to them and it says that my LO is this.

Active Mod Files:

00 Fallout4.esm
01 DLCRobot.esm
02 DLCworkshop01.esm
03 DLCWorkshop02.esm
04 DLCWorkshop03.esm
05 DLCNukaWorld.esm
06 DLCCoast.esm
07 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp [Version 2.0.1a]
08 ConcealedArmor.esm
09 SimSettlements.esm
0A ArmorKeywords.esm
0B Worsin's Garage.esm
0C four_play_resources.esm
0D HUDFramework.esm
0E Snappy_HouseK.esp
0F TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
10 ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion-VanillaWeight.esp
11 ValdacilsItemSorting-CosmeticsByClass.esp
12 Armorsmith Extended.esp
13 MirandaOutfit.esp
14 DX Courser X-92 Power Suit.esp
15 1nivDX Courser X-92 Power Suit Male.esp
16 FemsheppingsSkyrimConversions_PetrovichJewelry.esp
17 Crafting Workbench.esp
18 Quieter Settlements - Contraptions.esp
19 Evil Detective Outfit.esp
1A Kerrigan.esp
1B HouseDress1Fix.esp
1C Animu Hair.esp
1D NoraSpouse.esp
1E Crafting Workbenches - Automatron DLC.esp
1F Vault Meat Paintings.esp
20 wasterArmor.esp
21 Quieter Settlements - Vanilla.esp
22 LegendaryModification.esp
23 AkaSinger.esp
24 KSHairdos.esp
25 Rylee's Wasteland Tycoon.esp
26 Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp
27 WBO-Automatron.esp
28 BuildableBurningCampfires.esp
29 MonnoBikini.esp
2A Unique NPCs.esp
2B Quieter Settlements - Wasteland Workshop.esp
2C rpampas.esp
2D AA FusionCityRising.esp
2E AA FusionCityRising - HotC.esp
2F Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp
30 VeryRichMerchants.esp
31 WIPAG - Paint Garage - Full (Hard).esp
32 NanoSuit.esp
33 AkaSingersWardrobe.esp
34 FP_Autonomy.esp
35 JC-Shirt and Jeans.esp
36 MiscHairstyle.esp
37 LongerPowerLines3x.esp
38 AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
39 NanoSuit_AWKCR_AE.esp
3A AA FCR Companion Locator.esp
3B CompetitionSwimsuit.esp
3C FemsheppingsPorts_LeahLilithAndKalilies_AWKCR_AE.esp
3D LMBTOverlays.esp
3E FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp
3F LegendaryModificationMisc.esp
40 RealTroughs.esp
41 JamiesArmor.esp
42 Crafting Workbenches - Faction and Quest Requirements.esp
43 AsharaFO4UnderArmours.esp
44 DanLi_VaultExplorer.esp
45 KerriganColorChange.esp
46 Vivid Weathers - FO4.esp
47 Vivid Weathers - Natural Bright.esp
48 Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Far Harbor.esp
49 DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp
4A ProtoLining.esp
4B CROSS_GoreCrits.esp
4C CROSS_GoreCrits_FarHarborPatch.esp
4D HN66Fo4_EasyGirl_BS.esp
4E BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp
4F chem redux.esp
50 VIS-PatchChemRedux.esp
51 BlackRoseRedux.esp
52 SettlementMenuManager.esp
53 Snappy_DecoKit.esp
54 FunctionalDisplays.esp
55 FunctionalDisplays-AID-VIS.esp
56 Crafting Workbenches - Far Harbor DLC.esp
57 KerriganGlasses.esp
58 D.E.C.A.Y.esp
59 Northland Diggers New.esp
5A WIPAG - Decal Station.esp
5B OutcastsAndRemnants.esp
5C JibsResidentialAddOnPack.esp
5D keke-bu All-in-one Pack_1.1.7.esp
5E BetterSettlers.esp
5F BetterSettlersCleanFacePack.esp
60 BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.esp
61 BetterSettlersMortalSoldiersPack.esp
62 BetterSettlersFarHarborPatch.esp
63 RaiderOverhaul.esp
64 WBO.esp
65 SuperMutantOverhaul.esp
66 Vivid Waters.esp
67 UniqueUniques.esp
68 Altairp's Animal Farm.esp
69 powerarmort49.esp
6A FP_FamilyPlanning.esp
6B SimHomestead.esp
6C SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Defences_Brae.esp
6D ruined_simsettlement_addonpack.esp
6E TrailerParkDreams.esp
6F DelyteOutfits.esp
70 BioshockInspiredPowerArmor.esp
71 FP_Violate.esp
72 FP_Prostitution.esp
73 Rangergearnew.esp
74 SkyrimInspiredPowerArmor.esp
75 SkyrimConversions.esp
76 WVSimSAddon.esp
77 SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Utilities_JtBryant.esp
78 PCDugSIMAddon.esp
79 DWT_MegaMerchants.esp
7A _Gurl.esp
7B DiverseBodies.esp
7C Vinfamy_CP.esp
7D EnclaveX02.esp
7E Crazy_Multi-Tool.esp
7F Tina's Candy Land.esp
80 AsharaFO4Cyborg.esp
81 IndustrialCity_Sim_Settlements_Addon.esp
82 PCDugWedges.esp
83 IncreasedSettlerPopulation50.esp
84 kevbal.esp
85 Extended weapon mods.esp
86 Raider Overhaul - AE Patch-Restored Content-VIS.esp
87 ValdacilsItemSorting-Weapons.esp
88 ValdacilsItemSorting-ArmorByClass.esp
89 MODGirlyAnimation.esp
8A GITS_suit_by_OniNigma.esp
8B rfortaleza2.esp
8C rfortaleza2_AE.esp
8D Vivid Weathers - Nuka World.esp
8E LooksMirror.esp
8F Sun's VK Sweaters AtomicBeauty.esp
90 WBO-Extended Weapon Mods.esp
91 tschutschiSpearheadCatsuit.esp
92 FunctionalDisplays-Collectibles.esp
93 FunctionalDisplays-MISC-VIS.esp
94 WIPAG - Model-X.esp
95 Toxic Raider Armour.esp
96 xy - Misty Outfit.esp
97 FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC-ALL-VIS.esp
98 UniquePlayer.esp
99 dD-Enhanced Blood.esp
9A Ranger-Arm.esp
9B hi_bettergardens.esp
9C Eli Armor Compendium AE VIS Patch.esp
9D tank_PA.esp
9E LegendaryModificationGroknak.esp
9F FP_VanillaFudge.esp
A0 DX Vault Girl Shorts.esp
A1 UniqueFollowers.esp
A2 My_Minutemen.esp
A3 SimSettlements_AddOnPack_SimTowers_JtBryant.esp
A4 combat_PA.esp
A5 SurvivalTransitionSave.esp
A6 SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Foundations_JtBryant.esp
A7 slootyVaultSuit.esp
A8 EveryonesBestFriend.esp
A9 SundayMorninMiniGames.esp
AA LooksMenu.esp
AB Dongs_Of_Fallout.esp
AC DWT_Cricket_and_Guards.esp
AD Sandbag Fortifications - Version 2C.esp
AE LegendaryModification2LM.esp
AF LegendaryModification2LMAKPatch.esp
B0 tank_PA - AWKCR - VIS AbC.esp
B1 Better Vendor Stalls.esp
B2 TransferSettlements.esp
B3 Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Expanded.esp
B4 Crafting Workbenches - Power Armor.esp
B5 Harness-calyps.esp
B6 four_play.esp
B7 SimSettlements_XPAC_IndustrialRevolution.esp
B8 WIPAG - Materials Overhaul.esp
B9 FALLOUT4WT.esp
BA WIPAG - Mod Overhaul.esp
BB WIPAG - ArmorKeywords Compatibility Patch.esp
BC Armorsmith All DLCs Patch.esp
BD ConcealedArmor.esp
BE AtomicBeauty.esp
BF Synth Overhaul.esp
C0 Synth Overhaul - White Patch.esp
C1 Weapons of Fate.esp
C2 CBBE.esp
C3 Unique NPCs-LMSE Equipment.esp
C4 BetterSettlersFarHarborMortalPack.esp
C5 WBO-Weapons of Fate.esp
C6 LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
C7 MisfitInk.esp
C8 AsharaFO4Steampunk.esp
C9 combat_PA - AWKCR - VIS AbC.esp
CA xy - Jumpsuits.esp
CB LevelUpOptionsHolotape.esp
CC LegendaryModificationCSA.esp
CD Unique NPCs-MortalSettlers.esp
CE BobbleGirl.esp
CF WastelandGirlArmor.esp
D0 Companion.esp
D1 Unique Followers - UF4 Patch.esp
D2 companion_Cait_HfSM.esp
D3 Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp
D4 ScrapUpdate - Ultimate.esp

So the thing is that my game does'nt change the LO of the DLC.

I try a lot of things to force the game to not change the Load Order every startup without any succes so here i am.

If someone is having the same issue and he can resolve it please show us how.

Sarge Misfit · July 7, 2017

NMM doesn't sort so its order is the order that you installed in, not the order that the game loads and runs.

Run LOOT and then check the order that is shown in NMM.

supercaca · July 7, 2017

Yea i forgot i use LOOT to make the correct ordering of the plugins, the problem is that the change in the load order affects all the plugins except the DLC ones, that ones remain in the same position as i fresh install the game.

I de-ticked the read only option in the dlclist and plugins inis.

How in the world one can change the load order of the Fallout 4 DLC plugins?

Sarge Misfit · July 7, 2017

No idea. Its one of the reasons I try to avoid using NMM. I launch FO4 from the F4SE launcher instead. Then I know its using the LOOT load order.

supercaca · July 7, 2017

humm now thats something new, F4SE has a launcher? i already use F4SE, but a launcher, never heard of that, im gonna try out and see whats going on.

>>> ive only found the regular F4SE, i already use that one, i think you are refering to that one, so i'm stuck, im thinking in getting out a bit, because no fallout 4 for me at the moment . Im stuck at the entrance of the mecanist lair every time i try to enter CTD, thats the way i found the issue of the load order in my game.

You can change the LO of the DLC plugins, i try to run the game quiting one of the DLC esms an my game crash.

Sarge Misfit · July 7, 2017

Yes, the one that comes with F4SE

Unfortunately, I've not played FO4 for a bit, don't have all the DLC, had some hardware issues and have been concentrating on finalizing my build for a long term Skyrim playthough

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