CTD when saving or loading

[Darky1029]

Currently playing the mage quest, Labyrithian.
Reached a point where quick saving, or regular saving would CTD, i cant even load older saves when im there, but i can i load them from the main menu.
Interestingly, i can coc to riverwood and then save the game without any problems.
What is the issue here?

 

 

Papyrus.0.log

Load order.

P.s. I removed the missing esp after the crashes started.

 

 

Missing Masters for quicksave.ess:
xx Deviously Enslaved.esp

Masters for quicksave.ess:

00  Skyrim.esm
01  Update.esm
02  Dawnguard.esm
03  HearthFires.esm
04  Dragonborn.esm
05  Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp  [Version 3.0.3]
06  Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
07  SexLab.esm  [Version 1.61]
08  Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
09  SexLabAroused.esm  [Version 2.6]
0A  ZaZAnimationPack.esm
0B  hdtHighHeel.esm
0C  RaceCompatibility.esm
0D  HalfDryadElf.esm
0E  AzarHair.esm
0F  Devious Devices - Assets.esm  [Version 2.8.3]
10  Heretical Resources.esm
11  ZazExtensionPack.esm
12  Devious Devices - Integration.esm
13  LevelersTower.esm
14  CreatureFramework.esm  [Version 1.0.0]
15  HjakhtraevarrTomb.esm
16  Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
17  KameleonArmor.esm
18  Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esp
19  SkyUI.esp
1A  FNIS.esp
1B  dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
1C  SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
1D  SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
1E  N_43 Hair Pack.esp
1F  RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
20  zzEstrus.esp
21  WeightlessPotions.esp
22  EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
23  CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
24  DarkbroSanctuary.esp
25  Forgotten Dungeons.esp
26  Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
27  SexLab-Stories.esp
28  CWIELnFXPatch.esp
29  Captured Dreams.esp
2A  MoreNastyCritters.esp
2B  SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
2C  SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
2D  SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
2E  Aradia Devious Expansion.esp
2F  SkyrimBound.esp
30  PathOfSorcery.esp
31  Better Vampires.esp
32  WeightlessAlchemyIngredients.esp
33  WeightlessCraftedPotions.esp
34  WeightlessDragonBones.esp
35  WeightlessDragonClaws.esp
36  WeightlessDwemerSmeltables.esp
37  WeightlessFood.esp
38  WeightlessOreIngotsPeltsGems.esp
39  WeightlessScrolls.esp
3A  DragonHideRobeArmor.esp
3B  Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
3C  Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
3D  DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp
3E  Athletics Training.esp
3F  BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp
40  Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
41  UIExtensions.esp
42  AddItemMenu2.esp
43  Vampire Eyes Fix.esp
44  TrueBrows.esp
45  Shield Enchantments.esp
46  TMSG.esp
47  TheCoenaculiCBBE.esp
48  BS-TheHag_WarPaints.esp
49  AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
4A  CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp
4B  AmuletsofHircine.esp
4C  WerewolfPerksExpanded.esp
4D  Predator Vision.esp
4E  InstantMining.esp
4F  Celes Nightingale Armor.esp
50  EstrusChaurus.esp
51  SOSRaceMenu.esp
52  XPMSE.esp
53  LinearSmithing.esp
54  RevengeOfIronDaggersAndLeatherBracersv5.esp
55  dcc-dm2.esp
56  SLATE.esp
57  xo3dBondageFurniture.esp
58  RoyalElven.esp
59  AKSkyrimUnderground.esp
5A  HentaiCreatures.esp
5B  zHauntedHouse.esp
5C  Run For Your Lives.esp  [Version 2.0.6]
5D  EdhildilsDwarvencyborg.esp
5E  Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp
5F  SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
60  RaceMenu.esp
61  RaceMenuPlugin.esp
62  RaceMenuOverlays.esp
63  RaceMenuMimic.esp
64  Forgotten DungeonsDLC.esp
65  xazPrisonOverhaul.esp
66  Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
67  Immersive Weapons.esp
68  Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
69  RoyalDaedric.esp
6A  SimpleSlavery.esp
6B  Vivace.esp
6C  TacticalValtheim.esp
6D  CoCo_TDM2.esp
6E  DawnguardArsenal.esp  [Version 1.1.5]
6F  Spriggan Armor 2.esp
70  HothFollower.esp
71  HothFollower UFO Patch.esp
72  The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
73  Daedric Chainmail v2 Standalone.esp
74  OMageReplacerPack.esp
75  Bijin Warmaidens.esp
76  Bijin Wives.esp
77  Bijin NPCs.esp
78  SRG Enhanced Trees Activator.esp
79  SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp
7A  KomAnimObjects.esp
7B  SLAnimLoader.esp
7C  HalfDryadElf.esp
7D  Brows.esp
7E  KS Hairdo's.esp
7F  BlitzConsoleCommandsMCM.esp
80  DeviouslyHelpless.esp
81  HelmetToggle.esp
82  BloodWitchArmor.esp
83  BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp
84  nightshade_armor.esp
85  GDZZJJDH.esp
86  DibellasRecruit.esp
87  Phenderix's Magic Evolved.esp
88  East Reach House.esp
89  SexLab_Dialogues.esp
8A  BatTravel.esp
8B  SofiaFollower.esp
8C  Glowtastic.esp
8D  SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp
8E  ElvenChainMail.esp
8F  ZariaBootsWeightSliderFix.esp
90  Devious Masque of Clavicus Vile.esp
91  Realistic-Voice.esp
92  Unique Uniques.esp  [Version 1.8]
93  DeviousMagic.esp
94  isilNarsil.esp
95  The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp  [Version 1.2.9]
96  Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp
97  Naked Dungeons.esp
98  Aeonbarr V2.1.esp
99  Vampirelordroyal.esp
9A  When Vampires Attack.esp  [Version 2.0.6]
9B  Equippable Tomes.esp
9C  mayatola UFF.esp
9D  Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp
9E  DeviouslyTraining.esp
9F  Miraak.esp
A0  HjakhtraevarrTomb.esp
A1  BlackSacramentArmor.esp
A2  SGS.esp
A3  FCKagrenacsInstantFortress.esp
A4  Medusa and Drakul Armors.esp
A5  Raven Witch Armor.esp
A6  LustmordVampireArmor.esp
A7  Mannequin_Female_Vyctoria.esp
A8  Neo's Selene.esp
A9  Daedric Reaper Armor.esp
AA  Mavari Armor.esp
AB  Devious Deviants.esp
AC  AlduinWing.esp
AD  Animated Dragon Wings.esp
AE  TDNEquipableHorns.esp
AF  Alduin's son.esp
B0  AlduinsFangSword2H.esp
B1  AlduinsFangSword.esp
B2  Blades Light Armor Version 1 - v2.0.esp
B3  KameleonArmor.esp
B4  Light Elven Armor.esp
B5  Insanity's Dragonbane.esp  [Version 1.0]
B6  Insanity's Craftable Dragonbane.esp  [Version 1.0]
B7  TrissArmorRetextured.esp
B8  EternalShineArmorAndWeapons.esp
B9  Devious Devices - Equip.esp
BA  Real Clouds.esp
BB  TheEyesOfBeauty.esp  [Version 9]
BC  multipleingotsmelting.esp
BD  Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp  [Version 3.1.4]
BE  ccas_starts.esp
BF  ImmerSlave.esp
C0  Devious Bashnag.esp
C1  Alternate Start - Live A Deviant Life.esp

 

 

 

I loaded the last save before the quicksave of CTD's , it is 11 minutes prior to the quicksave, i can load and save without any problems on that save.
I loaded the last save before the quick save and saved it again, to see if it works, right, but i cant load that save game i just saved, but i can load the original. -Update- Crashed 3 times in a row when trying to load the game i had just saved, loaded fine on the 4th attempt. - Why is the game so unstable all of a sudden?

Could it be that a mod is suddenly causing all new save games to get fucked?

I uninstalled Sexlab Defeat and Death Alternative some time ago, but it started crashing some time after uninstalling them, so i think that is not the issue. Also, i enabled and re enabled some of the mods, but that shouldnt cause problems either.

Recently sorted the load order with loot. Could it have made the load order worse?

 

Tried loading the game i saved after loading the Quicksave of CTD and then using coc riverwood, to save it in a place, that is not labyrithian, loaded that save 3 times without a single crash, resaved that same save game 3 times and then loaded the saves i just created all without a single crash.

Papyrus.0.log
The problem seems to be tied to labyrithian somehow Cant figure out how.

Going to try running trough the whole quest without saving and saving after its done, RIP my immersion and nerves. So much for enjoying my climb to becoming the arch-mage for the first time.

 

The game has become quite unstable as of late, havent really changed anything, just have been playing quite alot.

Save games weight around 11mb, quicksave is 11.8 mb

 

On a side note
What the fuck?
So, i didnt fix the issue, went to sleep, this morning i wake up, try to launch my skyrim and it crashes before i can open the game. What?

Okay, i had MSI afterburner and Resource monitor running in the background, was gonna look how hard it is for my PC to breathe when im in labyrithian, i guess the MSI overlay was causing skyrim to crash before i can open the game.

 

Fixed the issue by clearing save game from scripts

[JamenBenthe86]

I've ran into the same problem recently. It's like my save hits a wall and won't work past it. For example, I played my character up to level 16 before I had any serious crashes. It got to where I couldn't play the character at all (couldn't save, fast travel, load,) so I reloaded a save from days before. I could play again for about the same amount of time that I had lost before the same problems came up. I couldn't even start a new game half the time without a crash, and I didn't change anything at all either.

My research into the issue told me that it was probably papyrus getting completely overloaded.

I just decided that I was tired of troubleshooting and started over on modding the game, this time being wary of too many script-heavy mods like Frostfall, Wet and Cold, etc.

 

Sorry that I don't have a real solution. I just thought that I'd let you know that I've had the same problem, and it can be really frustrating lol.

 

[Darky1029]

I've ran into the same problem recently. It's like my save hits a wall and won't work past it. For example, I played my character up to level 16 before I had any serious crashes. It got to where I couldn't play the character at all (couldn't save, fast travel, load,) so I reloaded a save from days before. I could play again for about the same amount of time that I had lost before the same problems came up. I couldn't even start a new game half the time without a crash, and I didn't change anything at all either.

My research into the issue told me that it was probably papyrus getting completely overloaded.

I just decided that I was tired of troubleshooting and started over on modding the game, this time being wary of too many script-heavy mods like Frostfall, Wet and Cold, etc.

 

Sorry that I don't have a real solution. I just thought that I'd let you know that I've had the same problem, and it can be really frustrating lol.

 

Thanks for the replay. I had a feeling it might be script related, because i haven't changed anything and everything point to that. Then again, im surprised that my lvl 30 ish save isnt fucked yet. I want to delete all the useless mods that i dont even use, but it would screw up my saves.

 

Also, that lvl 11 mage char has the bug when crafting - It will throw me out from the crafting table because of some animation bug, it was caused by Death alternative outcomes, im crafting with sgtm 0.00000001 as there is no other fix than reloading an earlier save , ayyy lmao, just modding things.

[skyquester]

U could try cleaning up your saves as u delete mods from the load order plus having a mod manager like mod organizer helps too.... There are utilities available that help you clean up your saves by deleting flags from mods that are no longer present making your saves lighter. Also did you remove everything related to defeat bcoz defeat uses scripts your game might be crashing trying to load or execute scripts that are no longer there.

[fizzybutt]

As for the crafting bug, unsheathing and then re-sheathing weapons has worked for me. I was losing my mind a little while back because it was even happening on a new save.

[Darky1029]

U could try cleaning up your saves as u delete mods from the load order plus having a mod manager like mod organizer helps too.... There are utilities available that help you clean up your saves by deleting flags from mods that are no longer present making your saves lighter. Also did you remove everything related to defeat bcoz defeat uses scripts your game might be crashing trying to load or execute scripts that are no longer there.

Id be a mad man if i tried running this whole thing without mod organizer, and as i stated above, yes, cleaning my saves indeed fixed the problem. Of course, the hassle of reinstalling sexlab and what not, but what can you do, atleast it works.

Organizing this without this lovely mod organizer would be a nightmare

[skyquester]

 

U could try cleaning up your saves as u delete mods from the load order plus having a mod manager like mod organizer helps too.... There are utilities available that help you clean up your saves by deleting flags from mods that are no longer present making your saves lighter. Also did you remove everything related to defeat bcoz defeat uses scripts your game might be crashing trying to load or execute scripts that are no longer there.

Id be a mad man if i tried running this whole thing without mod organizer, and as i stated above, yes, cleaning my saves indeed fixed the problem. Of course, the hassle of reinstalling sexlab and what not, but what can you do, atleast it works.

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Organizing this without this lovely mod organizer would be a nightmare

 

 

Lol well glad it worked out for you ... And yes MO is awesome