RaskorGaming Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 Hello All, I've recently begun remodding Skyrim after a long break of not playing, and everything's been fine for a few days. Just starting today, I've been unable to do two things: load previous saves, or load a new cell. The closest I got was through Alternate Start's vampire option (chosen randomly) after creating a test save, but even that crashed before I could see. I could tell that it loaded some though. Here is my mod order: Active Mod Files: 00 Skyrim.esm 01 Update.esm 02 Dawnguard.esm 03 HearthFires.esm 04 Dragonborn.esm 05 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp [Version 3.0.4] 06 Skyrim Project Optimization.esm 07 Falskaar.esm 08 MTAutoStorage.esm 09 CompanionArissa.esm 0A ApachiiHair.esm 0B Gray Fox Cowl.esm 0C JSwords.esm 0D AP Skyrim.esm 0E hdtHighHeel.esm 0F SexLab.esm [Version 1.62] 10 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 11 SexLabAroused.esm [Version 2.6] 12 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 13 CreatureFramework.esm [Version 1.0.0] 14 Cutting Room Floor.esp [Version 2.0.2] 15 SkyUI.esp 16 Brawl Bugs CE.esp 17 FISS.esp 18 UIExtensions.esp 19 Grimy Utilities Interface.esp 1A Dragon Stalking Fix.esp 1B FloraRespawnFix.esp 1C dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 1D RaceMenu.esp 1E RaceMenuPlugin.esp 1F RaceMenuMimic.esp 20 Atlas Compass Tweaks.esp 21 JaxonzEnhGrab.esp 22 iHUD.esp 23 AHZmoreHUD.esp [Version 2.1.3] 24 BetterQuestObjectives.esp [Version 1.5.7] 25 BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp 26 BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp 27 Purewaters.esp 28 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 29 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 2A Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 2B Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp 2C Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp 2D Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp 2E Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 2F dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 30 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp 31 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 32 Convenient Horses.esp 33 Footprints.esp 34 When Vampires Attack.esp [Version 2.0.6] 35 aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp [Version 1.9] 36 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp 37 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp 38 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp 39 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp 3A WetandCold.esp 3B WetandCold - Ashes.esp 3C Immersive Weapons.esp 3D WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp 3E aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp 3F BetterQuestObjectives-AMBSkyforgePatch.esp 40 Book Covers Skyrim.esp 41 Remove Interior Fog V2 - Dawnguard.esp 42 Helgen Reborn.esp [Version 105.3] 43 Tel_Nalta.esp 44 SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp 45 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp 46 Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim - Merged.esp 47 aGreyLedgeManorLITE.esp 48 Unique Places.esp 49 zMirai.esp 4A SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 4B SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 4C SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 4D HentaiCreatures.esp 4E SexLab More Creatures.esp 4F Dead Body Collision.esp 50 SkyFalls DB + FS Small Waterfalls.esp 51 SkyFalls + SkyMills Falskaar.esp 52 Stag'sRest.esp 53 TheChoiceIsYours.esp [Version 1.6] 54 SkyrimSewers.esp [Version 4.12] 55 BellyachesNewDragonSpecies.esp 56 Inigo.esp 57 Run For Your Lives.esp [Version 2.0.6] 58 SMIM-Merged-All.esp 59 MoonshimmerMine.esp 5A Atlas Legendary OCS.esp 5B HothFollower.esp 5C CompanionValfar.esp 5D ReadingTakesTime.esp 5E LootandDegradation.esp 5F Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp 60 VioLens.esp [Version 2.11] 61 Path of Shadows.esp 62 Lost Magic.esp 63 Better Vampires.esp 64 Predator Vision.esp 65 AlchemistJournal.esp 66 VicnCreaturePack.esp 67 DragonsDiversified.esp 68 SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp 69 RewardYourFollowers.esp 6A WheelsOfLull.esp 6B The Pit.esp 6C AesirArmor.esp 6D AlchemistsHiddenValley.esp 6E Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 6F SOS - Shop.esp 70 RabbitHole.esp 71 DwemerMechanical.esp 72 TemptressVixen.esp 73 Bluthanch.esp 74 Odvar.esp 75 HothFollower UFO Patch.esp 76 Sneak Tools.esp 77 Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp 78 Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp 79 DwemerDroidCompanion.esp 7A DivinePunishmentForArrowsToTheKnee.esp 7B DragonPunishmentForCloudDistrict.esp 7C FNIS.esp 7D Sexy Armor Replacer Patch.esp 7E isilNarsil.esp 7F LevelersTower.esp 80 DragonboneBarbarianArmor.esp 81 MF_RadiantProstitution.esp 82 silverfish.esp 83 Forgotten Windmill.esp 84 seedymerchant.esp 85 Daedric Chest , Solitude.esp 86 Tembtra Thief Armor.esp 87 WeaponsOf3E.esp 88 Merta Assassin Armor.esp 89 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 8A SexLabBooksOfLove.esp 8B Real Clouds.esp 8C Too Long Since We Had a Good Bandit Raid.esp 8D Daedric Reaper Armor.esp 8E Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 8F WAFR_CCOR_Ordinator_Patch.esp 90 Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp 91 Lydia Voice Changer.esp 92 DaedricPunishmentForSweetrolls.esp 93 XPMSE.esp 94 FNISspells.esp 95 SexLabSquirtR.esp 96 SexLab Cumshot.esp [Version 1.7.2] 97 Sexlab Release.esp 98 SexLab Romance.esp 99 DW.esp 9A SexLabRomance_IgnoreGender.esp 9B SexLabMatchMaker.esp [Version 7] 9C sexlab_necro.esp 9D SexLab Slut Shout.esp 9E SexLab Trainers.esp 9F SexLab_PaySexCrime.esp A0 SexLab Submit.esp A1 Blush When Aroused.esp A2 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp A3 SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp A4 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp A5 SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp A6 MoreNastyCritters.esp A7 FNISSexyMove.esp A8 zzLSAR.esp A9 zzEstrus.esp AA EstrusChaurus.esp AB SexLabWerewolves.esp AC Cherrypie.esp AD SexLab Enchantress.esp [Version 2.4] AE sr_FillHerUp.esp AF SexLabDefeat.esp B0 RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp B1 Open Cities Skyrim.esp [Version 2.0.0] B2 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 3.1.4] B3 BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp B4 SOSRaceMenu.esp B5 tes5merged.esp B6 Bashed Patch, 0.esp The load order is simply through LOOT. I don't believe the issue is solely Alternate Start's fault, as I opted to escape the cell and went to the exit, only to CTD when I opened the door out. I had installed some new mods, simply for looks. They are currently not in my load order (and the Merged Patch reflects that change). These mods are: The Eyes of Beauty thePure v1.3 (skin texture) Feminine Hands UNP Follower -Clarice- KS Hairdos - HDT Physics After uninstalling some, the saves would be loadable again but I still received the CTDs on new saves. My FNIS is functioning properly and hasn't failed me yet, but it is version 6.3. I am running SKSE version 1.9.32 1.7.3 (Accidentally listed Skyrim version). On another note, I cannot provide a Papyrus log, because for whatever reason, despite changing the ini settings, it won't appear in the Logs folder. At all. I would appreciate any and all help, and I will provide any necessary info I may have forgotten. Hopefully I won't have to do a clean install... Thanks in advance!
RaskorGaming Posted July 20, 2016 Author Posted July 20, 2016 I normally hate doing this, but I'm bumping for no replies in just less than 48 hours. Sorry.
Comrade Isbariya Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 The issue with not being able to load previous saves can be solved by keeping a save that does load fine and start the game loading this particular savegame, then load your current one from there. Usually, it would load fine after that. As for the problem itself... I'm sorry, I don't have any clue.
RaskorGaming Posted July 21, 2016 Author Posted July 21, 2016 The issue with not being able to load previous saves can be solved by keeping a save that does load fine and start the game loading this particular savegame, then load your current one from there. Usually, it would load fine after that. As for the problem itself... I'm sorry, I don't have any clue. Only problem is that no saves load. Period.
Comrade Isbariya Posted July 21, 2016 Posted July 21, 2016 So did the problem occur first time after installing the bunch of mods that you mention in your first post? Do you meet the requirements for HDT mods? (Like HDT physics extensions plugin installed etc?) I assume you're using a modmanager, so installing the HDT version of KS Hairdos shouldn'T have overwritten anything. I can't see you use the non HDT version anyway. x.x I've had crashes in exteriorcells due to the whole creatureframework stuff and mods when I was checking them out, after everything worked fine for a while - couldn't load a game for life's sake too. I don't even know if it were these mods in particular or something that conflicted with them heavily. I didn't check that and just turned them off because I didn't want them anyway. After that everything worked fine again. But hat's only personal experience that I can share, no law. I'm using a totally different setup than you and like I said, it might have been a problem I produced myself, but maybe a hint to check out, as I can't come up with anything else.
RaskorGaming Posted July 22, 2016 Author Posted July 22, 2016 So did the problem occur first time after installing the bunch of mods that you mention in your first post? Do you meet the requirements for HDT mods? (Like HDT physics extensions plugin installed etc?) I assume you're using a modmanager, so installing the HDT version of KS Hairdos shouldn'T have overwritten anything. I can't see you use the non HDT version anyway. x.x I've had crashes in exteriorcells due to the whole creatureframework stuff and mods when I was checking them out, after everything worked fine for a while - couldn't load a game for life's sake too. I don't even know if it were these mods in particular or something that conflicted with them heavily. I didn't check that and just turned them off because I didn't want them anyway. After that everything worked fine again. But hat's only personal experience that I can share, no law. I'm using a totally different setup than you and like I said, it might have been a problem I produced myself, but maybe a hint to check out, as I can't come up with anything else. HDT is installed, and loaded before all reliant mods. I'm actually using Mod Organizer, not NMM (unless that's what you meant.) The whole issue started after installing the groups of mods with KS Hairdos (the follower, skin retexture, faces, etc.) However, even after disabling those, I can't start a new save and load the exterior cells. I will attempt loading an interior cell shortly to see if it's a load issue or exterior issue. EDIT: After a test (coc WhiterunBanneredMare) I got an instant crash. It is loading any new cells whatsoever, not just the main world.
Comrade Isbariya Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 That's strange. The way MO works, disabled mods should not leave any remains of themselves in your game (other than scriptstuff, but as you even have problems with a new save, this is most likely not the case) Plus, using MO it's impossible to overwrite anything. Did you change your general load order when disabling the mods you just installed? Sometimes Skyrim can be veeeery picky about that, too. The only thing I could think of is, that something in your game points to a file that is not there anymore, although it shouldn't, but since you're using MO that sounds impossible. Have you tried disabling all of your plugins, then start a new game, save right after character creation (or wherever after that it's save for you) to see if it works without your mods, and then re-enabling them one by one? I know it sucks, but other than that I can't come up with anything else than: Do a fresh and clan install and use this guide from the very start on: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/74427/?
RaskorGaming Posted July 22, 2016 Author Posted July 22, 2016 That's strange. The way MO works, disabled mods should not leave any remains of themselves in your game (other than scriptstuff, but as you even have problems with a new save, this is most likely not the case) Plus, using MO it's impossible to overwrite anything. Did you change your general load order when disabling the mods you just installed? Sometimes Skyrim can be veeeery picky about that, too. The only thing I could think of is, that something in your game points to a file that is not there anymore, although it shouldn't, but since you're using MO that sounds impossible. Have you tried disabling all of your plugins, then start a new game, save right after character creation (or wherever after that it's save for you) to see if it works without your mods, and then re-enabling them one by one? I know it sucks, but other than that I can't come up with anything else than: Do a fresh and clan install and use this guide from the very start on: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/74427/? Will do, it was my last resort, but if it's necessary I'll do a clean install. Luckily I'm not using NMM; if I was I'd have to figure out what to delete. I follow the guide and reinstall when I have more time, but for now I'll mark this topic as solved. Thanks!
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