CTD on Load and Going to an Exterior

[Voltranis]

Hello one and all,

 

I seem to be crashing sometimes when I load my save, and constantly when I go outside. LOOT sorted my everything, and only warns me about a few dirty edits and whatnot so I'm totally stumped.

 

Load Order

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
3 3 Dawnguard.esm
4 4 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
5 5 HearthFires.esm
6 6 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
7 7 Dragonborn.esm
8 8 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
9 9 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
10 a SkyMoMod.esm
11 b moonpath.esm
12 c ApachiiHair.esm
13 d ApachiiHairFemales.esm
14 e ApachiiHairMales.esm
15 f SexLab.esm
16 10 SexLabAroused.esm
17 11 ZaZAnimationPack.esm
18 12 UndergroundBathhouse.esm
19 13 SharedSeranaDialogue.esm
20 14 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
21 15 PubicMeshColorRE.esm
22 16 HighResTexturePack01.esp
23 17 HighResTexturePack02.esp
24 18 HighResTexturePack03.esp
25 19 SkyUI.esp
26 1a ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
27 1b ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
28 1c WetandCold.esp
29 1d WetandCold - Ashes.esp
30 1e ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
31 1f CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
32 20 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp
33 21 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
34 22 ELFX - Exteriors.esp
35 23 ELFX - Dragonborn.esp
36 24 SFO - Dragonborn.esp
37 25 ELFX - Dawnguard.esp
38 26 Moonpath_TP.esp
39 27 TreaclemanMoonpathPatch.esp
40 28 immersive roads.esp
41 29 RealShelter.esp
42 2a Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp
43 2b ELFX_2_0_BFU_Patch.esp
44 2c ELFX - NoBreezehome.esp
45 2d TAVESolitude.esp
46 2e TAVEWindhelm.esp
47 2f Purewaters.esp
48 30 TrueStorms.esp
49 31 Supreme Fog - CoT.esp
50 32 SplashofRain.esp
51 33 aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp
52 34 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
53 35 TownsAndCitiesEnhanced.esp
54 36 Run For Your Lives.esp
55 37 moonpath_questdata.esp
56 38 ELFX - Moonpath.esp
57 39 SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.esp
58 3a BFU_whiterunenhanced.esp
59 3b Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
60 3c Grass_On_Steroids_SFO.esp
61 3d Immersive Weapons.esp
62 3e aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
63 3f SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp
64 40 SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp
65 41 SMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.esp
66 42 SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp
67 43 SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp
68 44 RSPatch.esp
69 45 IceBreaker's Improved Reverb v0.025.esp
70 46 dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
71 47 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
72 48 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
73 49 Improved Combat Sounds v2.2 no splatter.esp
74 4a EnhancedBlood-ImprovedCombatSounds.esp
75 4b dD-DG-DB-MonsterMod EBT Patch v4.esp
76 4c dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp
77 4d dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp
78 4e dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
79 4f FNIS.esp
80 50 RaceMenu.esp
81 51 XPMSE.esp
82 52 SLA Monitor Widget.esp
83 53 When Vampires Attack.esp
84 54 DeadlyDragons.esp
85 55 The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
86 56 Babette.esp
87 57 DA_Skyship.esp
88 58 TAVERiften.esp
89 59 Immersive Music Temples.esp
90 5a Immersive Music.esp
91 5b SexLab Submit.esp
92 5c SexLab Submit Serana.esp
93 5d Gildergreen Regrown.esp
94 5e Imaginator BETA.esp
95 5f TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
96 60 NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp
97 61 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
98 62 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
99 63 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
100 64 Chaconne.esp
101 65 Serana.esp
102 66 Toccata as Elisif.esp
103 67 Vivace.esp
104 68 Bijin Wives.esp
105 69 Brawl Bugs CE.esp
106 6a RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp
107 6b Bijin Warmaidens.esp
108 6c 12FemaleBrows.esp
109 6d SexLab_SOS-Stapon.esp
110 6e FloppySOS.esp
111 6f Skill Config.esp
112 70 TrueStorms-CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
113 71 CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp
114 72 CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-10.esp
115 73 CoT-WeatherPatch_NL1.esp
116 74 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

 

 

(My loadorder has a few SexLab things in it but those are working correctly and don't seem to be the issue so I'm putting this in general tech support)

 

Any help you wonderful people can provide would be glorious

[Guest]

Your load order is bit messy. If you haven't run latest LOOT, do it. (for instance):

 

- Supreme Fog mod should go at the bottom of your load order

- USKP Dragon born patch should go above Heartfire patch .... and similar

 

Abour CTDing whne being in exterior_

Try to use "coc" command. For instance If you are ins some cave, input in console "coc Riverwood". Spend some SKyim hours there and use console command again: "coc whiterunbanneredmare". Be there for few hours again. Befor exit Bannered mare input in "pcb" console: This command will free up used memory, often times increasing fps after any given amount of time in game. Best used while in interior cells. However, since it purges cached cells, any cells you visited in the recent past will have to be reloaded completely when reentered which doesn't have to be a bad thing. It will clear "damaged/broken" cells in exteriors.

[Voltranis]

Odd... This is the exact load order that LOOT cranked out for me.

 

I'll try your suggestions and update this reply.

 

UPDATE: Now I can't even load into any of my saves and my Papyrus log is filled with stuff that goes wrong. I'm also not sure what the "correct" order for the patches is since LOOT doesn't seem to want to do it correctly D:

 

I've attached the log as well for someone more apt to peek at.

 

 

Papyrus.0.log

[Guest]

LOOT does might work but some mods must be placed in load order manually according to author's description. And I apologize for saying that Dragonborn should go before Heartfire. MY fault. I have USKP legendary edition. But I'm positive about other mod.

[Voltranis]

Second post attaching my log so it's at the "top" (bottom?)

 

 

Papyrus.0.log

 

 

Again, I can't even enter my saves anymore so something happened and it got worse somehow.

[Guest]

Second post attaching my log so it's at the "top" (bottom?)

 

 

Papyrus.0.log

 

 

 

Again, I can't even enter my saves anymore so something happened and it got worse somehow.

 

read my post above yours. I made mistake about USKP patches. When you run LOOT again, and after it replaces mods again, send log file.

[Voltranis]

Alrighty, ran LOOT again and then stuck Supreme Fog at the very bottom. Still no dice

 

Does the papyrus log help at all?

[Guest]

Post your papyrus log file.

[Voltranis]

Post your papyrus log file.

 

It's in the my earlier two posts.

 

 

EDIT: De-spoilered the logs since it didn't seem to make much sense - they're also very small so I didn't see the point of zipping them up.

[Guest]

Ok try this: disable EnhancedLightsandFX mod and all related ones. Start the game and save the game in the new slot. Retry.

[Voltranis]

DISREGARD STRIKETHROUGHS - UPDATE BELOW

New log:

 

 

Not sure what I'm supposed to look for here but this line

 

ERROR: Property teleportdestination on script bh_teleport attached to (1203C247) cannot be bound because (000F122D) is not the right type
[12/30/2015 - 09:05:11AM] ERROR: Property teleportdestination on script bh_teleport attached to (1203C248) cannot be bound because (0002B023) is not the right type
[12/30/2015 - 09:05:11AM] warning: Property Config on script zbfbondageshell attached to zbf (110137E6) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[12/30/2015 - 09:05:11AM] ERROR: Property HirelingRehireScript on script dialoguefollowerscript attached to 00_andragon_DialogueFollower (120191D9) cannot be bound because 00_andragon_DialogueFollower (120191D9) is not the right type
[12/30/2015 - 09:05:11AM] ERROR: Property DriftshadeSanctuaryAlias on script USKP_QF_ChangeLocation16_0300489C attached to USKPChangeLocation16 (0200489C) cannot be bound because (53) on (0004B2D9) is not the right type
[12/30/2015 - 09:05:11AM] VM is freezing...
[12/30/2015 - 09:05:11AM] VM is frozen
[12/30/2015 - 09:05:11AM] Reverting game...
[12/30/2015 - 09:05:11AM] ERROR: Unable to bind script QF__010191D9 to 00_andragon_DialogueFollower (120191D9) because their base types do not match

 

 

Seems to be the critical part since it mentions freezing and frozen. Appears to be something with USKP and an "Andragon_DialogueFollower" whatever that means...

 

EDIT/UPDATE: Been reading through the log and still can't figure it out. I don't even know where to begin with this thing...

 

EDIT/UPDATE 2: Played around with stuff a little bit on my end, unsure if I've helped or hurt my whole setup. Gonna stop messing with it since I feel I'm just making matters worse. I disabled ELFX, Bathouse, and cleaned the official stuff like the cleaning guide here says to. New log is below this (also is considerably larger ) and I can't make heads nor tales of it... 

 

Papyrus.0.log

 

Old Log for Refrence

 

Papyrus.BEFORE MY BUMBLING0.log

 

 

[Guest]

Since you have so many mods that changing exteriors and textures, I would suggest you to start a new game without any mod, except USKPs. After the game makes first auto save in helgen, exit the game and just check your log file because the present one shows error in load order of one of your USKP. If there is error again, but the LOOT placed them correctly, reinstall your USKPs and clean your DCLs in Tes5 edit. Once you do that, play the game again. After you finish (exit) Helgen, start to enable mods one by one or in small portions. Evenually you will get to the problematic mod.

 

I know it is a long procedure but at least you will discover what mod is causing CTD and you will be able to eliminate it.

[Voltranis]

Since you have so many mods that changing exteriors and textures, I would suggest you to start a new game without any mod, except USKPs. After the game makes first auto save in helgen, exit the game and just check your log file because the present one shows error in load order of one of your USKP. If there is error again, but the LOOT placed them correctly, reinstall your USKPs and clean your DCLs in Tes5 edit. Once you do that, play the game again. After you finish (exit) Helgen, start to enable mods one by one or in small portions. Evenually you will get to the problematic mod.

 

I know it is a long procedure but at least you will discover what mod is causing CTD and you will be able to eliminate it.

 

 

Thank you for the reply EP!

 

Out of curiosity and before I go to the extreme with your solution (fairly certain it'd work too), I tried to change up the patch I was using. I picked up the Legendary Edition of the patches (Since I've got all the DLC) and the log seems to have changed dramatically. 

 

LOG

Papyrus.0.log

 

This one mentions something about a DLC1SurgeryScript and a zbfbondageshell (may be ZAZ/SexLab related so disregard that since it isn't the right place) right before the crash. I downloaded a couple of "clean saves" from the Nexus and I was trying them out. I think this may be the issue, whatever it is, since it seems to be consistent in ALL my logs that I've posted.

[Guest]

I'm having Legendary patch too. Be aware that some mods aren't compatible with that patch. Wrye bash or Tes5Edit will show you which mods aren't compatible if you run merge files or check for errors.

Your log shows a lot of errors about "teleport or teleportdestination" - what mod is that or what mod contains such activity? Is it this mod http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/51287/?

 

Also, there is issue with "surgery". Is that this mod? http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/27771/?,

 

If you have them get rid of them.

 

 

[Voltranis]

I'm having Legendary patch too. Be aware that some mods aren't compatible with that patch. Wrye bash or Tes5Edit will show you which mods aren't compatible if you run merge files or check for errors.

Your log shows a lot of errors about "teleport or teleportdestination" - what mod is that or what mod contains such activity? Is it this mod http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/51287/?

 

Also, there is issue with "surgery". Is that this mod? http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/27771/?,

 

If you have them get rid of them.

 

Don't have either of those mods - but I'll see if any mods I have in do something similar.

 

UPDATE: Going to proceed with your initial solution and cross my fingers.

[Voltranis]

I'm having Legendary patch too. Be aware that some mods aren't compatible with that patch. Wrye bash or Tes5Edit will show you which mods aren't compatible if you run merge files or check for errors.

Your log shows a lot of errors about "teleport or teleportdestination" - what mod is that or what mod contains such activity? Is it this mod http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/51287/?

 

Also, there is issue with "surgery". Is that this mod? http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/27771/?,

 

If you have them get rid of them.

 

So I disabled EVERYTHING I have installed and revalidated the files and tried to launch the game. Got to the main menu. Tried to start the game again and...

 

It crashed again...

 

New Log

 

Papyrus.0.log

[Guest]

 

I'm having Legendary patch too. Be aware that some mods aren't compatible with that patch. Wrye bash or Tes5Edit will show you which mods aren't compatible if you run merge files or check for errors.

Your log shows a lot of errors about "teleport or teleportdestination" - what mod is that or what mod contains such activity? Is it this mod http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/51287/?

 

Also, there is issue with "surgery". Is that this mod? http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/27771/?,

 

If you have them get rid of them.

 

So I disabled EVERYTHING I have installed and revalidated the files and tried to launch the game. Got to the main menu. Tried to start the game again and...

 

It crashed again...

 

New Log

 

Papyrus.0.log

 

 

Did you try a new game with mods disabled? have in mind that there are still installed although being disabled. Please try, as I said. Uninstall all except Legendary patch. RUN LOOT and start a new game.

 

[Voltranis]

I was able to start the game and stuff with no mods at all - but now we're all just sort of chilling in the back of the cart at the start of the game

 

 

Will reenable patches, then do alternate start - make a test character and see

 

EDIT: Made a new character no problem - but it crashed upon going outside again...

 

LOG - Papyrus.0.log

 

 

UPDATE: Going to go big and do a clean install entirely - wish me luck

 

UPDATE 2: Game works perfectly after the clean install. Enabling my mods one by one to see who's the naughty one

[Voltranis]

Final big update to my issue!

 

I have solved it after following the fantastic (though slightly extreme) solution given to me by Elf Prince. I reinstalled everything one by one and did constant testing to discover that it was something the ENB's installer through NMM was doing.

 

Thank you for all your help and Happy New Year

[Guest]

Final big update to my issue!

 

I have solved it after following the fantastic (though slightly extreme) solution given to me by Elf Prince. I reinstalled everything one by one and did constant testing to discover that it was something the ENB's installer through NMM was doing.

 

Thank you for all your help and Happy New Year

 

I'm truly happy for you. Enjoy in gaming.