-.- New Game/Existing Game Crash

[Ashkandii]

So i just keep getting issues stockpiling on each other no matter how much i fix skyrim it ultimately breaks something.

 

So where do i start i use MO and you know how you run FNIS and it creates its own file itself and you have to "create mod" from it and activate it.

Well, When i do that it makes the game unplayable, literally it just crashes every save and new games despite how many mods activated.

I may also add im using 2 different animation mods that most likely overwrite each other so i dont know its crashing because its trying to run two separate animations at the very same time.

 

Second problem when i deactivate the created fnis thing and start a fresh new game it actually crashes in the alternate start area, 

before you ask i skimmed down alot of mods but i do have 2k parrallax textures ontop of realistic filter with Project ENB with 8k Fire effects so it may just be overload in Graphics i have 180 plugins which is like 40 less then my old more stabler save (somehow)

 

So im going to run some tests for the second problem just wondering if anyone has a remote idea why my created fnis thing makes the game literally unplayable.

if you need any logs, load order etc ill post them soon as i read the reply.

Load Order

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

daymoyl.esm

ETaC - RESOURCES.esm

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

RaceCompatibility.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp

WetandCold.esp

RaceMenu.esp

Brawl Bugs CE.esp

iActivate.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

Footprints.esp

iHUD.esp

Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp

CharacterMakingExtender.esp

CoT-WeatherPatch.esp

Better Dynamic Snow.esp

Dead Body Collision.esp

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

Animations.esp

CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-10.esp

FNISSexyMove.esp

RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp

CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp

Differently Ebony.esp

Requiem.esp

VioLens.esp

ETaC - Complete.esp

Serana.esp

VioLens - Requiem Patch.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp

Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp

CoT-WeatherPatch_NL3.esp

Bounty Gold.esp

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

ImmersiveFP.esp

LootandDegradation.esp

wizDynamicThings.esp

Moss Rocks.esp

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp

SGEyebrows.esp

Requiem - Unofficial Patches and Dborn.esp

AOS.esp

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

AOS2_DSI Patch.esp

AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp

ELFX - Exteriors.esp

ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp

3DNPC.esp

FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp

HearthfireMultiKid.esp

HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp

HarvestOverhaul.esp

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dawnguard.esp

RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp

Inigo.esp

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

RND_ETaC-Patch.esp

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp

Requiem - Immersive Weapons and Armor.esp

SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp

SOSRaceMenu.esp

Schlongs of Skyrim.esp

SkyUI.esp

Hunterborn.esp

Skyrim_Sexy_LoadScreens.esp

towConversation.esp

aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp

Requiem - Resources.esp

RequiemSurvivalExperience.esp

Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp

Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp

COR-CraftingOverhaulReqtified.esp

RND_Requiem-Patch.esp

ETaC - Complete ELFX Patch.esp

ELFXEnhancer.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp

RevampedExteriorFog.esp

ENB Snow FX.esp

Skyrim Radioactive - Interiors.esp

fallentreebridges.esp

Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp

BHTNF_Eli.esp

Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp

Hunterborn_Requiem-Patch.esp

Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp

WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp

imp_helm_legend.esp

Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp

SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp

Skyrim Radioactive - Windhelm Docks.esp

Skyrim Radioactive - Solitude Docks.esp

Immersive Solstheim.esp

OBIS.esp

AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp

OBIS - Requiem Patch.esp

ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp

Requiem - EEO.esp

Bijin Wives.esp

OBISDB.esp

ETaC - Complete LoS Patch.esp

ETaC - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp

WATER DB.esp

BFT Ships and Carriages.esp

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dragonborn.esp

WATER-RND Legendary Patch.esp

WATER.esp

Bathing in Skyrim - Water for WATER (Vanilla).esp

Bathing in Skyrim - Water for WATER (Dragonborn).esp

Requiem - SkyTest.esp

Cloaks.esp

1nivWICCloaks.esp

CFR-CloaksForRequiem.esp

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp

Requiem - Audio Overhaul for Skyrim.esp

AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp

CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp

AOS2_SupremeStorms_CoT Patch.esp

Requiem - Hearthfire.esp

Bijin Warmaidens.esp

ELFX - NoBreezehome.esp

TradeBarter.esp

Point The Way.esp

SMIM-Merged-All.esp

ETaC - Complete BFT Patch.esp

ETaC - Complete Requiem Patch.esp

ETaC - Complete EEO Patch.esp

Immersive Patrols II.esp

RND_AnimalLoot.esp

Requiem - Height Adjusted Races with True Giants.esp

Height Adjusted Races.esp

ShowersInInns.esp

AOS2_Requiem Patch.esp

AOS2_WAF Patch.esp

SofiaFollower.esp

WATER Plants.esp

FNISspells.esp

Sneak Tools.esp

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

Real Clouds.esp

Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp

Apocalypse - Requiem Compatibility Patch.esp

Apocalypse - More Apocalypse - Requiem Compatibility Patch.esp

Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp

Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

WATER DG.esp

Bathing in Skyrim - Water for WATER (Dawnguard).esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

AOS2_EBT Patch.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

ASIS-Dependency.esp

Requiem for the Indifferent.esp

Squirtle

 

[MrFlyte]

I am not familiar with MO, but to get this out of the way we need to go through the usual rigamarole of basic mod trouble shooting. So let's run down the list:

On FNIS: make sure you have the most recent version. Check the nexus and verify you have the newest version (according to my NMM I had the most updated version, but when I check the actual Nexus page, turns out the NMM lied to me)

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/11811/?

 

Secondly post your LO. In NMM, just go to the plugins tab and on the left colum, there is a large export button. Copy-pasta here. While I can't really troubleshoot very well based off your LO, there are others who probably can.

 

Thirdly, run BOSS - and if you don't have BOSS...how have you been playing Skyrim all these years?

https://boss-developers.github.io/

 

Fourthly (and really should have been first) make sure you have the lastest version of Skyrim and SKSE

 

Fifthly, BOSS can typically find errors on it's own, but, it doesn't hurt to have Wrye check these things for you. Make sure you got the proper dependancies and Masters installed.

 

Oh, and don't forget to make sure you have all the Unofficial patches installed:

USKP

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/19

UDGP

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/23491

UDBP

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/31083

UHFP

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/25127

UHRP

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/31255

 

Lastly: The best way, but also the epitome of tedium, would be to disable all mods and turn on ~5 at a time until your game crashes, then turn off mods one at a time until you locate the trouble mod. Also, maybe an artifact of my Oblivion modding days, but I know Oblivion did not like it when you throw 100 new mods at it at once, so, you may find turning a few on at a time will help it handle the new load better.

 

After running all these steps we can move on with trouble shooting

[Ashkandii]

Hello mr Flyte.

One i use the new LOOT Beta which is more useful to this day.

Secondly everything you just stated will not work. why?

 

i recently upgraded my whole computer including MOBO and HDDs so everything is a fresh install everything is updated as of 23rd of April.

And doing the re-activate mod thingy-me-jiggy, it doesn't work.

now see since your not familiar with MO this is a matter you simply cannot solve. why?

Because in MO you run FNIS and it creates a file from the generated FNIS which you make it a mod itself and by activating it, it makes the game crash on any save and new game, deactivating it completely fixes everything.

All Unofficial patches are downloaded.

 

Appreciate your contribution though.

[MrFlyte]

Okay, well you post came off slightly condescending, which I don't really appreciate.

 

If the deactivate, reactivate method doesn't work then this is a game related issue. Verify your steam cache.

As for not being able to solve because I don't use the software: This is such a blatantly ignorant response. Yes, I am not familiar with that software, but the bugs presented in the game are still the bugs I have had to deal with. Using the wonderful power of deduction: If game crashes from the FNIS esp, then obviously the FNIS esp is the culprit. So, I would suggest re-running your FNIS and making sure you have selected the proper patches, in addition, I would try running FNIS outside of MO and see if the same results happen.

 

 

Beyond this point, I will make sure not to contribute any more help. Best of luck.

[Ashkandii]

Didn't mean to sound so rude but if i put it bluntly to my knowledge this matter is out of your hands and admittedly I like to put things as realistic as possible despite it sounding disrespectful in anyway its just that if  you haven't used MO for yourself you wouldn't fully understand the issue considering the newly created FNIS does not come with .esp's just meshes nothing else.

and running FNIS outside MO will do nothing its something FNIS is doing because its the files FNIS is generating itself no matter how or where i run it the same outcome will happen, it will eventually crash on loading saves despite my best efforts.

But it seems this is an issue with animations mod I installed myself and not FNIS's issue, its the fact its generating two of the same animations at once which is obviously causing a massive issue. 

But I'm going to close this issue mainly because it seems the issue cannot be helped unless someone has experienced same issue.