Dalamar Posted July 6, 2014 Posted July 6, 2014 I've managed to start Skyrim with all the mods installed... then after a while (15, maybe 30 minutes) it crashed to desktop and will not start again (Screen stays black and I need to open task manager to turn the game off as it's sitting in a not responding mode). This has happened before and I fixed it by reinstalling all the mods... but clearly it wasn't a fix since it happened again after approximately same time. This time I caught it in Papyrus log and it appeared as if Sexlab Aroused is causing the crash while trying to modify the body... ok, no problem I though, it's not an essential mod for me. So I uninstalled Aroused but there's no effect for the game, it won't even load the bethesda splash screen. It just stops immediately stops responding. Using SKSE 0.1.7.0 Fuz Ro D'oh 6.0.6.405 FNIS 5.1.1 My mods are: Skyrim.esm Active Update.esm Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} Contains dirty edits: 92 ITM, 3 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here. Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Version 2.0.4a Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} Dawnguard.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 619 ITM, 82 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here. Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Version 2.0.4 Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} HearthFires.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 184 ITM, 11 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here. Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Version 2.0.4 Active Dragonborn.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 61 ITM, 8 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here. Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Version 2.0.4a Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}} Falskaar.esm Version 1.1.4 Active ApachiiHair.esm Version 1.4 Active ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Version 3.1 Active Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm Active Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm Version 2.04.012 Active SexLab.esm Version 1.57 Active SexLabAroused.esm Active WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm Version 5A ActiveContains dirty edits: 66 ITM, 1 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here. ZaZAnimationPack.esm Active Devious Devices - Assets.esm Version 2.8.0 Active Brawl Bugs CE.esp Active Chesko_Frostfall.esp Active Clanking Armor.esp Active Auto Unequip Ammo.esp Active Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Active Dual Sheath Redux.esp ActiveRequires: Java Runtime Environment 7 update 17+ Lost Art of the Blacksmith.esp Active LoversComfort.esp Active Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp Active Radiant and Unique Potions and Poisons v2.0 non glow.esp Active SexLab_Hormones.esp Active SexLab_Paycrime.esp Active Unique BOOZE Bottles.esp Active WetandCold.esp Version 1.41 Active WetandCold - Ashes.esp Version 1.08 Active Footprints.esp Active SkyUI.esp Version 4.1 Active iHUD.esp Active Cloaks.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here. 1nivWICCloaks.esp Version 2.3 Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}} 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp Version 2.3 Active Devious Devices - For the Masses II.esp Active Immersive Weapons.esp Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} zzLSAR.esp Active AngrimApprentice.esp Version 1.40 Active Captured Dreams.esp Active Devious Deviants.esp Active DeviousRegulations.esp Version 1.7d Active AchieveThat.esp Version 3.2.1 Active BetterQuestObjectives.esp Active BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp Active BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp Active Headtracking.esp Active Schlongs of Skyrim.esp Version 2.04.013 Active SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp Active SexLab Romance.esp Active Convenient Horses.esp Version 14950 ActiveNote: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function. dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Active dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp Active xazPrisonOverhaul.esp Active Helgen Reborn.esp Version 105.3 Active Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp Active ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp Version 3.1- ActiveIncompatible with: Realistic Lighting Overhaul ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp Version 3.1- ActiveIncompatible with: Realistic Lighting Overhaul ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-3.esp Version 3.1 Active RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp Active RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp Active RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp Active RND_USKP-Patch.esp Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}} RND_UniqueBoozeBottles-Patch.esp ActiveNote: The Unique BOOZE Bottles plugin file can be deactivated from your load order with this patch active - but remember to keep the meshes and textures installed. Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp Active FNISspells.esp Active The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp Version 1.8 ActiveContains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here. dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp Active UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp Version 1.2j ActiveNote: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page. BetterQuestObjectives-UFOPatch.esp Active Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Version 2.4 Active BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp Active ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 6 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here. Purewaters.esp Version 4.6 Active RND_PureWaters-Patch.esp Active Bashed Patch, 0.esp Active daymoyl.esm Active Devious Devices - Integration.esm Active Devious Devices - Expansion.esm Active DD - Interactions.esp Active GagSFX.esp Active GagSFXDragonborn.esp Active Devious Cidhna.esp Version 1.0 Active SexLab Trainers.esp Active SexLabWerewolves.esp Active Devious Devices - Gags+.esp Active DeviouslyHelpless.esp Active GagSFXDawnguard.esp Active Masque of Clavicus Vile.esp Active SexLab Warmbodies.esp Active DD FtM - Cloaks patch.esp Active Devious Devices - Males Addon.esp Active GagSFXHearthfires.esp Active SexLabArousedAnimations.esp Active SOS - Shop.esp Active SexLabDangerousNights.esp Active Alternate Start - Live A Deviant Life.esp Active And the last entry in Papyrus log was: [07/06/2014 - 12:08:15AM] SexLab Hormones: Refreshing body shape values[07/06/2014 - 12:08:16AM] SexLab Hormones: Writing state to storage[07/06/2014 - 12:08:16AM] SexLab Hormones: Applying body changes I also just noticed that the non responsive episodes managed to create a short papyrus log as well! [07/06/2014 - 12:25:13AM] Papyrus log opened (PC)[07/06/2014 - 12:25:13AM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 500.000000ms)[07/06/2014 - 12:25:13AM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)Looks like some memory issue?Figured it might help to post the entire papyrus log, so I'm attaching a .zip file Papyrus save.zip
Nergui Posted July 6, 2014 Posted July 6, 2014 First up, those first three lines in the papyrus log are normal and shouldn't be tweaked unless absolutely required (except for Load Screen Budget). As to your load order, I can see a few issues. "Alternate Start - Live A Deviant Life.esp" requires a specific version of "Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp" which is 2.3.6 (you have 2.4.0). Due to this, if you want this effect, Skyrim Bound is a suitable option until LADL is updated. If it's generated by Wrye Bash through "create bashed patch", "Bashed Patch, 0.esp" should be at the bottom of your load order. Also, could you post the actual load order after being sorted by LOOT as the one you've posted seems really messed up. Best to run LOOT twice if the first time doesn't really work right. I have no idea why this happens.
Dalamar Posted July 6, 2014 Author Posted July 6, 2014 I swapped LADL for Skyrim Bound, ran FNIS, ran Wrye Bash and ran BOSS (The strange load order is due to BOSS report splitting mods into recognized and unrecognized... the order is somewhat different in reality). Same exact effect I looked through the beginning of the papyrus report and it seems like it's trying to load some mods that I don't even remember installing... could it be remnants from when I had Skyrim installed last time and uninstall didn't clean everything up properly? It's been a year since I last played the game. I sorted the load list with LOOT (twice) but I can't seem to be able to get the load order listed into a neat list I could copy and paste. The "View Last Report" button only opens a blank window for me. After I ran LOOT, I loaded NMM and exported the load list, this is the result: GameMode=SkyrimSkyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1Dawnguard.esm=1Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1HearthFires.esm=1Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1Dragonborn.esm=1Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1Falskaar.esm=1ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1ApachiiHair.esm=1Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1SexLab.esm=1Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1SexLabAroused.esm=1WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm=1Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1daymoyl.esm=1Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1Devious Devices - Expansion.esm=1dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp=1Footprints.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp=1Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1GagSFX.esp=1GagSFXDragonborn.esp=1BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp=1Devious Cidhna.esp=1SexLab Trainers.esp=1Radiant and Unique Potions and Poisons v2.0 non glow.esp=1Convenient Horses.esp=1Clanking Armor.esp=1SexLabWerewolves.esp=1dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp=1DD - Interactions.esp=1Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1Devious Devices - For the Masses II.esp=1Devious Devices - Gags+.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp=1DeviouslyHelpless.esp=1ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp=1Immersive Weapons.esp=1GagSFXDawnguard.esp=1BetterQuestObjectives.esp=1BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp=1Headtracking.esp=1Helgen Reborn.esp=1Captured Dreams.esp=1iHUD.esp=1Masque of Clavicus Vile.esp=1SexLab Warmbodies.esp=1RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1SkyUI.esp=1AchieveThat.esp=1Dual Sheath Redux.esp=1Lost Art of the Blacksmith.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-3.esp=1RND_UniqueBoozeBottles-Patch.esp=1RND_USKP-Patch.esp=1SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp=1Cloaks.esp=11nivWICCloaks.esp=1Devious Deviants.esp=1UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp=1BetterQuestObjectives-UFOPatch.esp=11nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp=1DD FtM - Cloaks patch.esp=1Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1zzLSAR.esp=1Devious Devices - Males Addon.esp=1GagSFXHearthfires.esp=1SkyrimBound.esp=1Unique BOOZE Bottles.esp=1SexLabArousedAnimations.esp=1The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp=1DeviousRegulations.esp=1Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp=1Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp=1SexLab Romance.esp=1xazPrisonOverhaul.esp=1SexLab_Paycrime.esp=1Purewaters.esp=1Chesko_Frostfall.esp=1RND_PureWaters-Patch.esp=1RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp=1SOS - Shop.esp=1LoversComfort.esp=1FNISspells.esp=1AngrimApprentice.esp=1SexLab_Hormones.esp=1Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp=1SexLabDangerousNights.esp=1WetandCold.esp=1WetandCold - Ashes.esp=1Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp=1Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1
Uriel Posted July 6, 2014 Posted July 6, 2014 If you have StorageUtil.save in "Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\", try to move it somewhere temporarily, and check if your Skyrim runs again. If not - place this file back where it was.
Dalamar Posted July 6, 2014 Author Posted July 6, 2014 Moved StorageUtil.save out to a temporary spot and still the same thing. But... I went and removed the skyrim folder from my windows account folder... It removed all the saves (of course, I was planning to start from scratch anyway so that's planned ) and all the settings... Now when I try to launch the game it opens in a tiny window but it runs! And as soon as I have the game auto-detect the settings it refuses to run full screen, stopping to respond before bethesda screen loads. Edit: I set the graphics the way I wanted... with the only difference being windowed mode instead of full screen... and so far it seems to be running. It's totally weird and I've never encountered an issue like this. Edit 2: I lowered the default graphics settings and the game is more or less stable. It did crash (not CTD but stopped responding) twice but it's something I can deal with as it's not too frequent (think I got about 2h in between crashes). Just need to save often. But this leads me to a question. Do I have any really memory intensive mods installed? It seems the first crash happened right when I entered combat and enhanced blood tried to kick in... but the second crash was simply on loading a world cell when leaving a cave.
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