Destynova99 Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 I've been having an issue I can't figure out. Any time my character is involved in a sex scene, the scene plays out just fine start to finish, but the next time I save the game after that, whether it be right after or five or so minutes later, the game crashes to desktop. It only happens on a save and it doesn't start happening immediately. When I start a new game, the first few sex scenes play out fine, and I can save afterwards just fine, but then eventually I CTD on save after sex scenes. I've tried running the clean debug feature in the SexLab framework, clicking the cancel animation debug option, removing the SL mods I thought were the problem (the ones initiating the sex scene at the time), regenerating the FNIS output, clean saving without the sex lab mods active and reinstalling them and generating a new FNIS output and bashed patch, everything I can think of and it still CTDs on save. Moving to a new cell before saving also did not work. It may be related or not but I also noticed that I could not interact with any crafting stations like forges, tanning racks, etc after sex scenes, or mount a horse. I've also noticed that after deleting the StorageUtil.save file (Mod Organizer puts it into the Override folder) the first save after a sex scene will work fine but after the second or third scene, the crashes on save start up again. FNIS is up to date (5.0.2) with creature patch. All of the SL mods I have installed are up to date as of a few days ago. There has to be something I'm missing... a known mod conflict, or... something. In case it's relevant, I use Mod Organizer to play Skyrim. Any ideas? Here's my load order: Active Mod Files: 00 Skyrim.esm 01 Update.esm 02 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 2.0.3] 03 Dawnguard.esm 04 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [Version 2.0.3] 05 HearthFires.esm 06 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp [Version 2.0.3] 07 Dragonborn.esm 08 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [Version 2.0.3] 09 Falskaar.esm 0A Wyrmstooth.esp [Version 1.10] 0B RaceCompatibility.esm 0C Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm 0D ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 0E Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm 0F moonpath.esm 10 SexLab.esm [Version 1.39] 11 SexLabAroused.esm 12 SPERG.esm 13 WinterholdDestruction.esm 14 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 15 Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp [Version 2.0] 16 SharedSeranaDialogue.esm 17 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp 18 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp 19 Morning Fogs.esp [Version 1.0] 1A Rainbows.esp 1B SplashofRain.esp 1C ExpandedSnowSystems-CoT.esp 1D ADS.esp 1E AOS.esp 1F DragonShoutVoice.esp 20 IHSS.esp 21 Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp 22 randomthunder.esp 23 mintylightningmod.esp 24 MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp 25 FantasySoundtrackProjectCombatMusic.esp 26 TouringCarriages.esp 27 Cutting Room Floor.esp [Version 1.0.5] 28 TradeBarter.esp 29 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp 2A Ars Metallica.esp [Version 1.2.2] 2B Ars Metallica - Dawnguard.esp [Version 1.2.2] 2C Ars Metallica - Hearthfire.esp [Version 1.2.2] 2D Ars Metallica - Dragonborn.esp [Version 1.2.2] 2E Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 2F BirdsHFclean.esp 30 BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp 31 Bring Out Your Dead.esp [Version 1.2.4] 32 ClamsDropPearls.esp 33 Dead Body Collision.esp 34 donorcollegejoin.esp 35 Disease Descriptions.esp 36 DD_Dawnguard Additions.esp 37 DD_Dragonborn Additions.esp 38 DungeonQuestAwareness.esp 39 fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp [Version 1.0] 3A HoldBorderBanners.esp 3B Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - default.esp 3C LoversComfort.esp 3D manny Lantern Caretakers.esp 3E More Salt Please.esp 3F More Salt Please - Dragonborn addon.esp 40 Moss Rocks.esp 41 Moss Rocks_DB.esp 42 ORM-Arvak.esp 43 PilgrimsDelight.esp 44 Point The Way.esp [Version 1.0.2] 45 RabbitsPlus.esp 46 Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp 47 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 48 SWT1.2.esp 49 ShootingStars.esp 4A Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 4B SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp [Version 1.1] 4C SMDropLitTorch.esp 4D SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp [Version 4.6] 4E SwiftPotion.esp ++ Traps Make Noise.esp 4F WetandCold.esp 50 WetandCold - Ashes.esp 51 Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp 52 Footprints.esp 53 Footprints - Ash.esp 54 NoxUE2.00.esp 55 RaceMenu.esp 56 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 57 towConversation.esp 58 vAutosaveManager.esp 59 SkyUI.esp 5A Elemental Staves.esp 5B ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp 5C imp_helm.esp 5D imp_helm_imp.esp 5E imp_helm_dawn.esp 5F imp_help_dbrn.esp 60 imp_guard_helm.esp 61 OMageCommonRobesV2.esp 62 OMageReplacerPack.esp 63 Another Sorting.esp 64 ASM-Soul Gems-Alternative.esp 65 ASM-FS.esp ++ Weapons and Armor Fixes_Remade_ASM.esp 66 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp 67 HarvestOverhaul.esp [Version 2.8.2] 68 HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp [Version 2.8.2] 69 Lock Overhaul.esp 6A BetterDGEntrance.esp [Version 1.0] 6B CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp 6C Ekkii Breezehome Basement.esp 6D Gildergreen Regrown.esp [Version 1.2.6] 6E high hrothgar overhaul.esp 6F Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp 70 LocalizedGuildJobs.esp 71 moonpath_questdata.esp 72 Nightingale Hall.esp 73 Run For Your Lives.esp [Version 1.2.4] 74 When Vampires Attack.esp [Version 1.1.1] 75 Sky Haven Temple M&M3.esp 76 SkyrimChimneysRW.esp 77 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp [Version 1.2.7] 78 ASM-WT.esp 79 SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp 7A Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp 7B BetterQuestObjectives.esp 7C BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp 7D BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp 7E ASM-Books-Labeled.esp 7F BlockSparkles.esp 80 College of Winterhold Entry Requirements.esp 81 Distant DetailHF.esp 82 DiversePriests.esp 83 dynamic fires.esp 84 FalskaarDawnguard.esp 85 HelmetToggle2.02b.esp 86 OpulentMageUSKPReplacerPatch.esp 87 SexLab Romance.esp 88 SexLab Solutions.esp 89 SexLab Submit.esp 8A Convenient Horses.esp 8B dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 8C dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp 8D Soul Gems Differ - E.esp 8E TheChoiceIsYours.esp 8F TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp 90 Thieves Guild Requirements.esp 91 BetterQuestObjectives-ThievesGuildRequirementsPatch.esp 92 TimingIsEverything.esp 93 TimingIsEverything_RunForYourLives_Patch.esp 94 UnreadBooksGlow.esp [Version 2.2.0] 95 xazPrisonOverhaul.esp 96 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp 97 BetterQuestObjectives-AMBSkyforgePatch.esp 98 ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp 99 WhiterunAlivePiano.esp 9A Chesko_Step418_SN.esp 9B Oblivion Gates v3 without Markers - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp 9C DawnofWindhelm.esp 9D EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 9E ELFX - Dawnguard.esp 9F ELFX - Dragonborn.esp A0 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp A1 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp A2 ClimatesOfTamriel Falskaar.esp A3 Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp A4 CoT-WeatherPatch.esp A5 CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp A6 CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-40.esp A7 CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp A8 CoT-WeatherPatch_ESS.esp A9 Better Vampires.esp AA Predator Vision.esp AB HitStop.esp AC SmartCast_1_0.esp [Version 1.0] AD BFSEffects.esp AE DeadlySpellImpacts.esp AF Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp B0 The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp B1 TKRecoil.esp B2 SPERG.esp B3 SPERG-DG.esp B4 SPERG-DB.esp B5 SPERG Another Sorting.esp B6 SPERG Weapons and Armor Complete.esp B7 dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp B8 Beards.esp B9 Brows.esp BA ESPv1_1.esp BB VendorSaleDelay-Gone.esp BC Grandmaster Delphine.esp BD Kickass Esbern.esp BE Marriable Serana.esp [Version 1.6.2] BF Essential Blades.esp ++ moveitLWT.esp C0 NonEssentialChildren.esp C1 Height Adjusted Races with True Giants.esp C2 BVLT - Human.esp C3 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp C4 SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp [Version 1.8] C5 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp C6 TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp C7 sOverEncumbered.esp C8 Animated Weapon Enchants.esp C9 DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp CA RealisticWaterTwo.esp CB RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp CC RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp CD RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp CE CWIELnFXPatch.esp CF CWIOpulentOutfitsPatch.esp D0 SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp D1 Improved Closefaced Helmets_Legendary.esp D2 AOS2_DGDB Patch.esp D3 ThievesGuildReq_LocalizedGuildJobs_Patch.esp D4 STEP Extended Patch.esp D5 TreaclemanMoonpathPatch.esp D6 REGS - Better City Entrances.esp D7 REGS - Better Docks.esp D8 DawnofRiften.esp D9 Understone Keep Repair.esp DA CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp DB FSP - Dawnguard Edition.esp DC chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp DD SorcererGear.esp DE DialogueTweaks.esp DF SexLab Submit Serana.esp E0 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp E1 SpousesEnhanced.esp E2 SpousesEnhanced_Serana.esp E3 Apropos.esp E4 Private Needs Discreet.esp E5 SexLab Trainers.esp E6 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
Destynova99 Posted April 20, 2014 Author Posted April 20, 2014 Hmm I might have fixed my issue. On a whim I removed the "Height adjusted races" mod, wondering if perhaps it's race scaling was conflicting with the sexlab option to scale actors for better alignment. Since removing it, I haven't had a CTD. I'll give it some more time and if starts happening again I'll post my papyrus log.
nutluck Posted April 21, 2014 Posted April 21, 2014 Very possible and a mod I wanted to try but was worried about the same issue.
Destynova99 Posted April 21, 2014 Author Posted April 21, 2014 Yeah that was it, I've been stable since then.
nutluck Posted April 21, 2014 Posted April 21, 2014 Well that sucks to hear it causes issues, guess I won't be using it on my next play thru.
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