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So fourth time installing oblivion and first time i've ever had a lot of trouble with mods ( despite having 1/4th the mods of my previous install no missing required mods)

before anyone asks yes it was a clean uninstall the only uninstall that wasnt was the second time i installed oblivion and it prevented me form installing the third time until i figured out some user permission oddity thing.

 

My issues are as follows

- character freeze during animations

- most animations don't play (deleting 1-200 of the LAPF ini files will allow animations to play but with spos errors (only tested with lovers orgy spell on a clean save)

  +-creatures 2.0 animations play but only with summoned creatures after animation finishes player freezes.

- character is unable to move at all after animations

 

I Think my load order is right keyword THINK after using both Boss and Manual movement via wyre bash ( boss for normal mods wyre bash for all else)

while looking at the suggested load order for help.

I did at first run a bashed patch with lovers files only to read later that's a no-no so i re-ran it without them didn't help my issues

i have browsed this forum but sadly was unable to find answers.

 

any help is of course much appreciated

i think its as simple as im missing something cause that's what it feels like

 

here is the load order

00  Oblivion.esm
01  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm
02  Lovers with PK.esm
03  LoversCreature.esm
04  Toaster Says Share v3.esm
05  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.34]
06  LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Dogs.esp
07  LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp
08  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.4.5]
09  UOPS Additional Changes.esp
0A  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]
0B  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
0C  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0D  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.3]
0E  USIPS Additional Changes.esp
0F  Damsels In Distress.esp
10  Streamline 3.1.esp
11  DLCHorseArmor.esp
12  DLCOrrery.esp
13  DLCVileLair.esp
14  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
15  DLCSpellTomes.esp
16  Slof's Boners! v5.esp
17  DLCThievesDen.esp
18  Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp
19  Alluring Wine Bottles.esp
1A  AdrenalineOblivion-SupportElements.esp
1B  AdrenalineOblivion-SpawnElement.esp
1C  DLCFrostcrag.esp
1D  Knights.esp
1E  HackdirtAlive.esp
1F  FormID Finder4.esp
20  100% Harvest Chance.esp
21  goblin_war_party.esp
22  ATakesAll.esp
23  Gather Ye Rosebuds.esp
24  MadCompanionshipSpells.esp  [Version 2.5]
25  MCS extension.esp
26  zzEstrus.esp
27  VipCxj_HairEyeSet.esp
28  FFXIII_Race.esp
29  Dremora female.esp
2A  Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp  [Version 2.0]
2B  KT_CustomRaceFix.esp
2C  MassA.I.esp
2D  MassA.I-50.esp
2E  Uruk-hai Raiding Parties.esp
2F  ZAZHorseRidesYou.esp
30  OCR Argonian.esp
31  OBGE - Liquid Water.esp
32  Cities Alive At Night.esp
33  IlluminationWithout.esp
34  IlluminationWithin.esp
35  IWR-Windows.esp
36  IWR-Shutters.esp
37  IWR-Lights.esp
38  All+5AttributeModifiers.esp
39  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp
3A  Enhanced Water v2.0 ND.esp
3B  TSS Custom Companion  Template.esp
3C  Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp
3D  Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.1]
3E  ButterflyWalls.esp
3F  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.11]
40  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
41  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.11]
42  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.3]
43  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]
44  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]
45  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]
46  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
47  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
48  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]
49  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.4]
4A  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.4]
4B  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
4C  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.1]
4D  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.5]
4E  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1.1]
4F  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
50  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.3]
51  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
52  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
53  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
54  XulEntiusGorge.esp  [Version 1.2.1]
55  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
56  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.8]
57  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.5]
58  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.3]
59  xulPantherRiver.esp
5A  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
5B  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
5C  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
5D  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
5E  xulTheHeath.esp
5F  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 1.1.3]
60  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
61  xulJerallGlacier.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
62  xulTheEasternPeaks.esp  [Version 1.1.4]
63  xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp  [Version 1.3.3]
64  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]
65  MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp
66  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.34]
67  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.34]
68  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.34]
69  LoversRaperS.esp
6A  LoversBed.esp
6B  Lovers with PK.esp  [Version 96v4a]
6C  LoversCreature.esp
6D  LoversSlaveTrader.esp
6E  LSTBravilUnderground.esp
6F  LSTaddonInH.esp
70  LoversOrgy.esp
71  FuroGeneratorTrap.esp
72  PlayerSlaveEncounters_V0.691.esp
73  PSE-HackdirtAlive-Patch.esp
74  LoversMB2.esp
75  LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
76  LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

Additional info ( probably irrelevant but just in case)
OBSE 21, pluggy 135, zipxychs? high heals and hair to eye system, and OPGE (graphics extender)
Main character 1: Serah Farron race from FFXII_race.esp  not sure if this is a problem but better safe then raged
Test: default imperial female clean save( vanilla no dlc)
test 2: default imperial female clean save ( all official DLC+unofficial patches)
test 3: default imperial female modded save ( most of these mods) this is what i used for testing
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I had issues with CSR (and slavetrader, which is a requirement for bravil - hence why i no longer run this) and even more issues with the newer CSR (which i guess is V3, since the older one didn't have a version num in the filename). If you run into bugs or ctds, i'd first point my finger at CSR, and propose disabling it to test if bugs/crashes disappear.

 

The alternative to CSR is MCS - which has a less nice interface than CSR (mostly spell-driven), but more flexibility and from my experience no crash/glitch issues.

 

MCS does have two "odd behaviors" which however are by (misguided) design and are minor. Plus, they can easily be fixed in the construction set, without any knowledge of how to use CS (it boils down to just loading the plugin into CS, toggle two checkboxes, then save the changes).

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I had issues with CSR (and slavetrader, which is a requirement for bravil - hence why i no longer run this) and even more issues with the newer CSR (which i guess is V3, since the older one didn't have a version num in the filename). If you run into bugs or ctds, i'd first point my finger at CSR, and propose disabling it to test if bugs/crashes disappear.

 

The alternative to CSR is MCS - which has a less nice interface than CSR (mostly spell-driven), but more flexibility and from my experience no crash/glitch issues.

 

MCS does have two "odd behaviors" which however are by (misguided) design and are minor. Plus, they can easily be fixed in the construction set, without any knowledge of how to use CS (it boils down to just loading the plugin into CS, toggle two checkboxes, then save the changes).

ive never had issues with these combined (that im aware of anyways)  solved my ctd in bravil underground. after reinstalling the game i forgot to put in the last half of MBP so yeah ctd.  though i swear i fix one problem and another shows up now i got floating goblin's ( no legs) seems to only affect the named goblin tribes SOLVED: missing meshes for player slave encounters for those of you who have the same issue. but yeah my issues that i posted at first in this thread are solved so it can be closed. thanks for looking at it 

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