Could a tag system be added to LL?

[The Real Slim Shady]

I know that we technically have one, but it isn't very robust. Most r34 sites have a tagging system that allows users to find AND exclude any content which they see fit, in a very convenient and complete manner. Sometimes I just don't want to see Gore, for example, in which case a robust blacklist would be very helpful. Obviously, many mods contain a variety of content of some kind or another (mods aren't quite as simple as .png porn), so it might end up needing to be more detailed than simple tags (such as distinguishing between different types of content, such as: optional integration with another mod, optional internal content, dependencies with the tag in question, main mod content, side mod content, animations, models, etc.).

 

Obviously, this would require rules to enforce proper tagging, but I think it would help overall site usability if properly implemented. The search function is often... unpredictable. something like this might even already exist, but as an ordinary intermittent user I haven't seen any use from it, and, frankly, barely even notice that we have tags in the first place.

 

I want to reiterate what I said above, simple post-tags wouldn't be enough, as mods often have a variety of content in different quantities, and there aren't enough mods to, say exclude all mods with a "bestiality" tag and still see the full variety of Defeat mods, most of which have at least some kind of SLCF integration. So you'd end up with only seeing a fraction of "acceptable" [by the standards of the user] mods on the site. This would cause, in notable cases, either 1. All or most users ignoring the tag system altogether, or at least the blacklist, or 2. mods that contain any unpopular content, even in lesser degrees, being shafted due to players not even being shown their existence.

 

 

Secondly, I would suggest adding a few of the more extreme paraphilic classes of content (beastiality, guro, cannibalism, snuff, etc.) to a default blacklist that would need to be disabled by the user. This would have several benefits:

1. It would prevent bad press (frankly, the moment a critical mass of Kotaku or DailyMail writers catch wind of the content on this site there are likely to be serious headaches for the staff).

2. It would prevent users without an account to see the extreme stuff (feeds back into #1)

3. It could probably "hold off" the hentai goon-spiral that many users have probably experienced at one point or another. It wouldn't stop it, obviously, but mental health is important and research is afaik pretty clear that collecting extreme fetishes probably isn't the best for you, at least as far as a healthy in-person sex life goes (obviously the younger users of this site will be most likely to get caught up in that. Even if they aren't allowed to be here in the first place, I would definitely like them to not be harmed as much as possible)

 

P.S., apparently there is a "forum feedback" thread somewhere, but I couldn't find it. Hope this is alright, maybe I'm blind, but W/E.

[chooo]

The tags actually could be much more simple as long as it's exclusively to look for content, and not to block content. It gets super complicated when you want to exclude content and the subject is mods considering so many of them have optional content and content you only engage with provided you have additional mods installed etc. 

 

I mean to say, great idea as a search function, too convoluted/not worth it as censorship function - are my initial thoughts.

 

P.S. It's the first topic in Annoucements: Site Feedback. But I don't see any problem with posting here. Moderator or Ashal may move it.

Edited March 27 by chooo

[Karkhel]

You raise some good points, but honestly r34 page is the worst example you could've used for at least half of your arguments, because despite being able to blacklist stuff you have AI bros and other weirdos who are incapable of tagging stuff correctly, and is arguably the biggest goon factory on the internet alongside 4chan. The upside (in this case at least) of adult modding for bethesda games is how much fucking time it takes, you actually have time to cool off and think about what you are doing with your life while you are spending hours modding the game and making sure its not crashing (thank you Todd for creating unstable pieces of shit games so we can stave off goonery easier).

That being said maybe there is some improvements that could be made on the site I'm not trashing your entire argument, though simple tagging system wouldn't really work well for this. One thing is for sure if we ever got a system similar to this (I'm not opposed to it) it would need to be managed by the staff and idk if anyone wants to do this shit tbh. You can't really trust communities with tags, just look at steam tags, absolute fucking mess.

Edited March 27 by Karkhel

[Victoriaaakitty]

Obviamente claro 

[The Real Slim Shady]

On 3/27/2024 at 3:16 AM, Karkhel said:

You raise some good points, but honestly r34 page is the worst example you could've used for at least half of your arguments, because despite being able to blacklist stuff you have AI bros and other weirdos who are incapable of tagging stuff correctly, and is arguably the biggest goon factory on the internet alongside 4chan. The upside (in this case at least) of adult modding for bethesda games is how much fucking time it takes, you actually have time to cool off and think about what you are doing with your life while you are spending hours modding the game and making sure its not crashing (thank you Todd for creating unstable pieces of shit games so we can stave off goonery easier).

That being said maybe there is some improvements that could be made on the site I'm not trashing your entire argument, though simple tagging system wouldn't really work well for this. One thing is for sure if we ever got a system similar to this (I'm not opposed to it) it would need to be managed by the staff and idk if anyone wants to do this shit tbh. You can't really trust communities with tags, just look at steam tags, absolute fucking mess.

Yeah, community tags would be tricky to get consistent. Especially considering the aforementioned complexity of mod's content. That being said, I think a system where all users, not just the original uploader, can influence tags could work. Like you submit a new tag/modification for a post, and if other people agree with it then it gets made "official". The low-IQ taggers on r34 don't seem to have much of an impact for this reason: most of the posts quickly get given mostly appropriate tags by ordinary users who like keeping the site clean. I haven't been on r34 for almost a year though, so I couldn't really say what the current state is with AI and all.