CTD on save attempt

[Wandering_Mania]

Okay so lately every game I start has basically a finite amount of play time. Because every new game I start has run into a point where if I attempt to save the game, manually, or it hits an autosave, it CTDs. If I reload the last save that was made, then attempt to save, it CTDs.

 

My question is: Does anyone know what might be causing this to happen?

 

Because I haven't done anything 'drastic' to my load order. Haven't added any big mods, or really done anything to rearrange anything; But my past 2 games have hit this ' CTD save wall'. And I'm really wondering why, so I don't have to keep making new games, when I haven't even finished the last one.

 

Thanks ahead of time to anyone who might reply with a bit of info.

[Nuka Cherry]

Meaning you used to play for longer, but have now seen CTDs become more common?

 

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Because I haven't done anything 'drastic' to my load order.

 

Undo all of that? Then test to see if it occurs. What changes did you make?

Edited October 23, 2023 by Nuka Cherry

[Wandering_Mania]

6 hours ago, Nuka Cherry said:

Meaning you used to play for longer, but have now seen CTDs become more common?

Yeah, I could play a single 'save/character' until I wanted to make a new game. Now, eventually I hit that 'you can no longer save' crash wall, on every new game. And am forced to make a new game, weather I want to or not.

 

6 hours ago, Nuka Cherry said:

Undo all of that? Then test to see if it occurs. What changes did you make?

Uhh, no changes. That's what I said. I haven't made any changes to my load order. But it just randomly started with the 'crash wall' on every new character.

Edited October 23, 2023 by Wandering_Mania

[Nuka Cherry]

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Because I haven't done anything 'drastic' to my load order.

 

This is the red flag. Even minor changes can leave behind orphan scripts that will cause the following: regular crashes, increasing frequency of crashes and ultimately a corrupted save. I would avoid making any changes to a mod order that involved an .esp, .esl, .esm. Textures are usually ok.

 

You can also introduce problems to the game by save scumming, saving immediately after entering an area, autosave mid event/script. You can also wreck you save over time if you over build especially in areas with overlapping cells. F04 loads a cell space around you, and some areas (in Beth's wisdom) are far too busy. If you build (for example) settlements at Abernathy, Sanctuary and Red rocket, or Graygarden/Oberland the game will try and load more than one settlement at certain points on the map. Pick one settlement per zone (NE/NW central SE SW).

 

If you are also running script heavy mods (SS2, PANPC, Crime and Punishment), this can also bork you game. Pick one.

[Wandering_Mania]

18 minutes ago, Nuka Cherry said:

Even minor changes can leave behind orphan scripts

Well see that's the thing, as I said twice now. I have not done anything to my load order.

I have not added any mods.

I have not moved any mods around.

And I have not removed any mods.

I have the same load order as when then game worked just fine for as long as I wanted it to.

 

It just started doing this 'out of the blue'. No rime or reason that I can guess for it to start happening. And it's happened on multiple newly made characters. I have even tried reloading older saves from that playthrough, and trying to save, and it still does the same thing. So it's not just a single 'save from that playthrough', it's the entire playthrough that runs 'out of time'. So it makes even less sense to me, because if it was something wrong with what was done, or what was built; The saves prior to things being built, should theoretically work. But they don't.

 

28 minutes ago, Nuka Cherry said:

Pick one settlement per zone (NE/NW central SE SW).

Well in the last game that ran out of time; I had built up Starlight Drive-in, and Greygarden. And that's it. Then it started CTDing every time I tried to save. I didn't even get to join the BoS outside of Danse's team.

The game prior to that. It was only the Concord Red Rocket Truck Stop, nothing else. I was able to finish the main story, but shortly after it started CTDing after every save attempt.

 

32 minutes ago, Nuka Cherry said:

If you are also running script heavy mods (SS2, PANPC, Crime and Punishment), this can also bork you game. Pick one.

Do I have to? I don't even know what those are, nor use any of them. (Yes that was a joke, but no, I still don't use any, or even know what 2 of those are.)

[Nuka Cherry]

I took your phrase "too drastic" at face value - meaning something minor, not nothing.

 

Mod list / crash log?

[Miauzi]

Vor 27 Minuten sagte Wandering_Mania:

Nun ja, das ist die Sache, wie ich jetzt schon zweimal sagte. Ich habe geändert nichts an meiner Ladereihenfolge .

Ich habe keine Mods hinzugefügt.

Ich habe keine Mods verschoben.

Und ich habe keine Mods entfernt.

Ich habe die gleiche Ladereihenfolge wie damals, als das Spiel so lange einwandfrei funktionierte, wie ich es wollte.

 

Es hat einfach „aus heiterem Himmel“ damit begonnen. Ich kann mir keinen Zeitpunkt oder Grund dafür vorstellen, dass es passiert. Und es ist bei mehreren neu erstellten Charakteren passiert. Ich habe sogar versucht, ältere Spielstände aus diesem Durchlauf neu zu laden und zu speichern, aber es passiert immer noch das Gleiche. Es handelt sich also nicht nur um eine einzelne „Speicherung aus diesem Spieldurchgang“, sondern um das gesamte Spiel, bei dem die Zeit abläuft. Deshalb macht es für mich noch weniger Sinn, denn wenn etwas mit dem, was getan oder gebaut wurde, nicht stimmte; Das Speichern vor dem Bau sollte theoretisch funktionieren. Aber das tun sie nicht.

 

Nun, im letzten Spiel, dem die Zeit davonlief; Ich hatte Starlight Drive-in und Greygarden aufgebaut. Und das ist es. Dann fing es jedes Mal an zu CTDen, wenn ich versuchte zu speichern. Außerhalb von Danses Team kam ich nicht einmal zum BoS.

Das Spiel davor. Es war nur der Concord Red Rocket Truck Stop, sonst nichts. Ich konnte die Hauptgeschichte beenden, aber kurz darauf fing sie nach jedem Speicherversuch an zu CTDen.

 

Muss ich? Ich weiß nicht einmal, was das ist, und verwende auch keines davon. (Ja, das war ein Witz, aber nein, ich benutze immer noch keines und weiß auch nicht, was zwei davon sind.)

 

Can you please post a complete list of your used (installed) mods here (in a spoiler)

I've been playing Fallout 4 since it went on sale - usually with an extensive mod list... and I vaguely remember something similar happening to me a few years ago.

Unfortunately, only a complete reinstallation was able to solve the crash problem.

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Have you changed anything in your hardware or the operating system or the graphics card drivers?

[Battletooth]

Im not sure if I can help, but every time you add mods, make some small tests to them, if there are some conflicts, then its best to start new game.

check load order again, im using vortex for FO4 it has internal load order resolved, if it doesnt work i change them manually, but usually i dont need to.

 

Do you have HW changes, one i know is nvidia RTX 3000 and greater had some weapon debris bug, but there is easy fix, but that happened when expolring and encountering debris not saving.

I have had some saving bug myself too, but usually they have cleared itself, so it has been really rare for me.

Could also check your mod manager, if it for some strange reason has changed paths or something, It happend to my vortex some years ago, i don't remember excaclty what happened, i think I moved some files because my disk was full and did something bad accidentally

 

Maybe updated GPU drivers or something can mess things, i had really strange issue with latest nvidia driver last week, it broke my firefox and fallout. I was lost, but i just rebooted my PC few times andeverything was fine, i dunno what happened. i did reinstall firefox, but not fallout, rly strange and no clue what happened.

 

Also could be some hardware failure or cooling problem, SSD breaking.

backup saves and put just one working save on save folder..

Try to do some test and eliminate possible fails, one by one.

That thing helped me lot when modding skyrim, FO

[Miauzi]

"Windoof" can sometimes be a completely crazy operating system... after an update, the access rights on my PC were changed... so I could no longer save a file (from a game) from my user account... that System required “Admin status”

My wife and I had searched for hours... until we examined this aspect and found the source of the error... everything was corrected the way we wanted it to be.

[Wandering_Mania]

1 hour ago, Nuka Cherry said:

Mod list

 

1 hour ago, Miauzi said:

Can you please post a complete list of your used (installed) mods here (in a spoiler)

Well, here's a mod list as best as I can do, plus it is the exact load order I have used since, well forever.

Spoiler

Fallout4.esm=1
DLCRobot.esm=1
DLCworkshop01.esm=1
DLCCoast.esm=1
DLCworkshop02.esm=1
DLCworkshop03.esm=1
DLCNukaWorld.esm=1
Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp=1
ArmorKeywords.esm=1
SpringCleaning.esm=1
VideoMaster.esm=1 (Old version, Videos of the Wasteland, not updated to the lastest for the functionality of the older tapes that I have marked below)
SettlementKeywords.esm=1
Homemaker.esm=1
AAF.esm=1
XDI.esm=1
SCEEJapaneseHouse01.esp=1
CWSS Redux.esp=1
RSE_II_Resources.esm=1
TortureDevices.esm=1
Devious Devices.esm=1
Scrounger DLC Fix.esp=1
Nuka World Bottle Fix.esp=1
CBBE.esp=1
LooksMenu.esp=1
Render Tattoos.esp=1
SlaveTattoos.esp=1
AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp=1
KSHairdos.esp=1
SC_ExpandedScrapList.esp=1
Armorsmith Extended.esp=1
HUE_Standalone_01.esp=1
Armorsmith Nuka World.esp=1
Conelrad 640-1240.esp=1
HN66Fo4_Nails.esp=1
CraftableAmmo.esp=1
CraftableAmmo_plus.esp=1
FusionCoreCrafting.esp=1
NSA All-in-One.esp=1 (No Settlement Attacks)
MojaveImports.esp=1
WastelandImports_Classic.esp=1
ModelRobotDisplay.esp=1
NukaColaDisplayStand-MojaveImports.esp=1
Perks Unleashed.esp=1
Zipsuit.esp=1
M1Garand.esp=1
M1Garand - AWKCR.esp=1
M1Garand-2xDMG.esp=1
WastelandFashionBandanasBlindfolds.esp=1
Armormsith All DLCs Patch.esp=1
ArmorsmithExtendLegendaryModifiable.esp=1
Armor_Mods_Expanded_More_Slots_v1b2.esp=1
Suicider Replacement.esp=1
DV-Armored Pilots.esp=1
DV-Deadly Vertibirds.esp=1
DV-No Levelled Vertibirds.esp=1
DV-Vertibird Explosive Minigun.esp=1
DA Harness 01.esp=1
Settlement Aid Program EASY.esp=1
D13SynthSpyDetectionElimination.esp=1
CROSS_Cybernetics.esp=1
CROSS Lockpickmod Fix.esp=1
CROSS_Jetpack.esp=1
Cross Cybernetic and Jetpack Fix.esp=1
Craftable Armor Size - Fix Material Requirements.esp=1
Craftable Armor Size.esp=1
Robot Home Defence.esp=1
Idiot Slut.esp=1
le666piercings.esp=1
RichMerchantsLessCaps.esp=1
NMPMVs.esp=1  (VotW old tape)
SpecialVideos.esp=1 (VotW old tape)
GoodOldCartoons.esp=1 (VotW old tape)
GoodOldCartoonsVol02.esp=1 (VotW old tape)
GoodOldCartoonsVol03.esp=1 (VotW old tape)
GoodOldCartoonsBonus.esp=1 (VotW old tape)
VotW_PWP_Vault69.esp=1 (VotW old tape)
a2b_mof.esp=1 (Magizines of Fallout by A2B)
SilverShroudRing.esp=1
FO4HHS.esp=1
GITS_suit_by_OniNigma.esp=1
No Seeker Boulders.esp=1
FaceMaxson.esp=1
CraftableGunsAndWeapons.esp=1
SilverShroudKarna.esp=1
rfortaleza2.esp=1
rfortaleza2-mk1.esp=1
rfortaleza2-mk2.esp=1
rfortaleza2-mk3.esp=1
rfortaleza2-mk4.esp=1
rfortaleza2-mk5.esp=1
rfortaleza2-mk6.esp=1
rfortaleza2-pauldron.esp=1
rfortaleza2-wetsuit1.esp=1
rfortaleza2_AE.esp=1
AkaAutomaticLaserTripwire.esp=1
BrighterSettlementLights_LongAndSoft.esp=1
Brighter Wasteland Workshop Lights.esp=1
dcc-bp-lol.esp=1 (Plugs of the Commonwealth)
LegendaryModification.esp=1
LegendaryModification2LM.esp=1
LegendaryModification2LMAKPatch.esp=1
LegendaryModificationMisc.esp=1
LegendaryModificationCSA.esp=1
LegendaryModificationGroknak.esp=1
LegendaryModification Enhanced.esp=1
VtawWardrobe8.esp=1
DX_DarkMistress.esp=1
DX_FetishFashion_Part1.esp=1
DX_FetishFashion_Part2.esp=1
EndorsCustomCombatArmor.esp=1
EndorsCustomCombatArmor_AE.esp=1
EndorsCustomCombatArmor_CFA.esp=1
EndorsCustomCombatArmor_CAS_CCA_Cost.esp=1
EndorsCustomCombatArmor_AzarHair.esp=1
EndorsCustomCombatArmor_ChromeSynths.esp=1
EndorsCustomCombatArmor_VaultSuitDLC_AE.esp=1
Tone_OverQueen.esp=1
OppaiMilkPasties.esp=1
DX_Pornstar_Fashion.esp=1
RealJetpack.esp=1
Smoke-able Cigars.esp=1
KLPostersAdult.esp=1
EroticArt.esp=1
Vault Meat Paintings.esp=1
TheNaughtyCanvas.esp=1
SickotiksBeasts.esp=1
AutoDoors.esp=1
AD_DLC.esp=1
Craft_Ammo_HandmadeRoundDolby1021.esp=1
CVSNWA.esp=1 (Commonwealth Vendors Stock Nuka World Ammo)
AlternateSettlements.esp=1
SSEX.esp=1
SettlementMenuManager.esp=1
Homemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects.esp=1
Homemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects SKE.esp=1
Vault-Tec Workshop Overhaul Redux.esp=1
Vault88 - Essentials.esp=1
FunctionalDisplays.esp=1
FunctionalDisplays-Collectibles.esp=1
FunctionalDisplays-AID-Vanilla.esp=1
FunctionalDisplays-MISC-Vanilla.esp=1
FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC03.esp=1
FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC01.esp=1
RealComics.esp=1
NSFW Comics.esp=1
LooksMirror.esp=1
VaultGirl.esp=1
DarkerNights.esp=1
TrueStormsFO4.esp=1
NoAffinityCooldown.esp=1
NoNegativeAffinity.esp=1
ScrapDeadThings.esp=1
keyNuker.esp=1
Krisa.esp=1
Heather.18B5F3.18B5F3.18B5F3.esp=1
Ellie.23134B.esp=1
Lin.231349.231349.esp=1
Roxy.225B68.225B68.225B68.225B68.225B68.225B68.esp=1
Yennefer.18B5F6.esp=1
With.225B69.esp=1
Lima.225B6A.225B6A.225B6A.225B6A.esp=1
Jodelle.23134A.esp=1
Lexxa.225B67.225B67.225B67.225B67.esp=1
Survival25LESSEnemyDamage.esp=1
SurvivalNormalPCDamage.esp=1
SWTS.esp=1
HHFootsteps.esp=1
Rogg No-Strip Items Manager.esp=1
AdamantiumSkeletonRank3NoFallDamage.esp=1
PiP-Boy2000.esp=1
AnotherLife.esp=1
ArcadeTerminals.esp=1
THPoses.esp=1
LewdTalks.esp=1
RealHandcuffs.esp=1
RealHandcuffs_AWKCR_Compatibility.esp=1
SexEd.esp=1
FP_FamilyPlanningEnhanced.esp=1
INVB_WastelandDairy.esp=1
INVB_Enslavement.esp=1
INVB_WastelandDairy_AltStart.esp=1
INVB_WastelandStory.esp=1
INVB_WastelandResources.esp=1
INVB_WastelandOffspring.esp=1
FPAttributes.esp=1
AAFExtendedStats.esp=1
AAF_Spectators.esp=1
Vioxsis_Strap-Ons.esp=1
AAF_BadEnd_Animations.esp=1
KziitdAnimationPoses.esp=1
FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp=1
Rufgt's Animations.esp=1
Atomic Lust.esp=1
rxl_bp70_animations.esp=1
AAF_CreaturePack01.esp=1
AAF_CreaturePack02DLC.esp=1
Zaz Particle Effects.esp=1
Deathclaw_nude.esp=1
SMBehemoth Loincloth.esp=1
Behemoth No Cart.esp=1
ErectionFix_SilverPerv.esp=1
AnimalLoverWastelandSeducer.esp=1
RSE_II_Brothels.esp=1
RSEE_Vol7_FAP.esp=1
SavageCabbage_Animations.esp=1
ComMoisturizer.esp=1
VotWGeneralPurposePatch.esp=1
Nuka Ride.esp=1
NukaRide_DXPornstarFashion_patch.esp=1
HN66Fo4_TRS.esp=1
HN66Fo4_EasyGirl_BS.esp=1
Nuka Ride CWSS Patch.esp=1
Nuka Ride High Heels Sound Patch.esp=1
Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp=1

Some of them have full titles in "( )" markings, because their esps don't have full names, so I added those.

 

Edit:

Also, no I haven't changed anything in the way of hardware since I started playing that list about a year and a half ago. As i got this rig about 2, maybe 3 years ago.

Edited October 24, 2023 by Wandering_Mania

[Nuka Cherry]

You have four mods that will.. err... fuck your save.

 

• ArmorKeywords/AmorsmithExtended - were an important part of FO4 modding history, but are very buggy, outdated and unsupported. Equipment and Crafting Overhaul (ECO) - Redux or New Equipment Overhaul (NEO) are much cleaner and more stable. I would kill these with fire if I had the choice, as they are obselete and heavy handed mods that cause all sorts of conflicts.
• Spring Cleaning is very outdated.
• Scrap Everything - There are many versions of this. The ones that edit precombines can cause problems with your save and increasing CTDs. This depends on your system and where you use it, but as a rule I would use versions that are very light touch. Can also cause crashes in specific areas (vault 88, eg).
• RSE_II_Brothels - From the manual on AAF: "RSEII_Brothels [It will eventually break your save. This mod is broken beyond repair, Flashy's own words." Human resources is a much better brothel mod.

[Wandering_Mania]

7 hours ago, Nuka Cherry said:

ArmorKeywords/AmorsmithExtended - were an important part of FO4 modding history, but are very buggy, outdated and unsupported. Equipment and Crafting Overhaul (ECO) - Redux or New Equipment Overhaul (NEO) are much cleaner and more stable. I would kill these with fire if I had the choice, as they are obselete and heavy handed mods that cause all sorts of conflicts.

Well haven't had any problem with them. But to even lose those, I'd also have to lose most of the armor mods that I have as they also depend on those.

 

7 hours ago, Nuka Cherry said:

RSE_II_Brothels - From the manual on AAF: "RSEII_Brothels [It will eventually break your save. This mod is broken beyond repair, Flashy's own words." Human resources is a much better brothel mod.

Yeah, the only thing I actually use from this one; Is the 'guard post mats'. Nothing else from it is ever touched. And it hasn't been too much of a problem.

 

7 hours ago, Nuka Cherry said:

Scrap Everything - There are many versions of this. The ones that edit precombines can cause problems with your save and increasing CTDs. This depends on your system and where you use it, but as a rule I would use versions that are very light touch. Can also cause crashes in specific areas (vault 88, eg).

Well my Gen11 i7, 32GB of RAM, and RTX3070 handles it pretty well; And I haven't had any crashes around Vault 88. But I'll keep it in mind as a possible culprit. Because it's the only one that was added more 'recently' (within the past 6 months).

[Nuka Cherry]

You can free mods from AWKCR with a drop in ESP from here: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/40752  I would add that any mod which has a dedicated Nexus page for removing it as a dependency (and is more updated than the original) is to be avoided.

 

Aside from that do you have buffout installed? https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/47359

 

Can you post a buffout crash log if so. That can help narrow down the crash (only really need the top part of the log).

[Wandering_Mania]

36 minutes ago, Nuka Cherry said:

You can free mods from AWKCR with a drop in ESP from here: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/40752  I would add that any mod which has a dedicated Nexus page for removing it as a dependency (and is more updated than the original) is to be avoided.

Well the thing with their dependency is that some of those armors are only craftable by the workbenches provided by that one. So it would be a lot more difficult to remove.

 

And let's just say that when I tried to add the ability to add legendary mods on a set that didn't have it; By following the instructions on the 'Legendary Modification' page, all it really did was bork the esp, and force a clean reinstall of the armor mod. So I'm not really one who's great at doing that.

 

I can fix broken load orders like it was nothing*; But making, or editing the plugins themselves; Forget about it.

 

*For example:

In my newest game: I had my crafted weapons function completely normally. But not a single one of them, added by, 2 vanilla, 1 DLC Nuka World, and 1 mod, wanted to render in game.

 

A quick look at my load order and I instantly saw the problem. Fixed it. And when I rebooted/reloaded the game, all was fine. Somehow (including in the above posted load list) some mods where way out of the correct position.

So the fixed order is now:

Spoiler

Fallout4.esm=1
DLCRobot.esm=1
DLCworkshop01.esm=1
DLCCoast.esm=1
DLCworkshop02.esm=1
DLCworkshop03.esm=1
DLCNukaWorld.esm=1
Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp=1
ArmorKeywords.esm=1
SpringCleaning.esm=1
VideoMaster.esm=1
SettlementKeywords.esm=1
Homemaker.esm=1
AAF.esm=1
XDI.esm=1
SCEEJapaneseHouse01.esp=1
CWSS Redux.esp=1
RSE_II_Resources.esm=1
TortureDevices.esm=1
Devious Devices.esm=1
Scrounger DLC Fix.esp=1
Nuka World Bottle Fix.esp=1
CBBE.esp=1
LooksMenu.esp=1
Render Tattoos.esp=1
SlaveTattoos.esp=1
AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp=1
KSHairdos.esp=1
SC_ExpandedScrapList.esp=1
Armorsmith Extended.esp=1
HUE_Standalone_01.esp=1
Armorsmith Nuka World.esp=1
Conelrad 640-1240.esp=1
HN66Fo4_Nails.esp=1
CraftableAmmo.esp=1
CraftableAmmo_plus.esp=1
FusionCoreCrafting.esp=1
NSA All-in-One.esp=1
MojaveImports.esp=1
WastelandImports_Classic.esp=1
ModelRobotDisplay.esp=1
NukaColaDisplayStand-MojaveImports.esp=1
Perks Unleashed.esp=1
M1Garand.esp=1
M1Garand - AWKCR.esp=1
M1Garand-2xDMG.esp=1
WastelandFashionBandanasBlindfolds.esp=1
Armormsith All DLCs Patch.esp=1
ArmorsmithExtendLegendaryModifiable.esp=1
Armor_Mods_Expanded_More_Slots_v1b2.esp=1
Suicider Replacement.esp=1
DV-Armored Pilots.esp=1
DV-Deadly Vertibirds.esp=1
DV-No Levelled Vertibirds.esp=1
DV-Vertibird Explosive Minigun.esp=1
DA Harness 01.esp=1
Settlement Aid Program EASY.esp=1
D13SynthSpyDetectionElimination.esp=1
Zipsuit.esp=1
CROSS_Cybernetics.esp=1
CROSS Lockpickmod Fix.esp=1
CROSS_Jetpack.esp=1
Cross Cybernetic and Jetpack Fix.esp=1
Craftable Armor Size - Fix Material Requirements.esp=1
Craftable Armor Size.esp=1
Robot Home Defence.esp=1
Idiot Slut.esp=1
le666piercings.esp=1
RichMerchantsLessCaps.esp=1
NMPMVs.esp=1
RealComics.esp=1
a2b_mof.esp=1
NSFW Comics.esp=1
SpecialVideos.esp=1
GoodOldCartoons.esp=1
GoodOldCartoonsVol02.esp=1
GoodOldCartoonsVol03.esp=1
GoodOldCartoonsBonus.esp=1
VotW_PWP_Vault69.esp=1
SilverShroudRing.esp=1
FO4HHS.esp=1
GITS_suit_by_OniNigma.esp=1
No Seeker Boulders.esp=1
CraftableGunsAndWeapons.esp=1
SilverShroudKarna.esp=1
rfortaleza2.esp=1
rfortaleza2-mk1.esp=1
rfortaleza2-mk2.esp=1
rfortaleza2-mk3.esp=1
rfortaleza2-mk4.esp=1
rfortaleza2-mk5.esp=1
rfortaleza2-mk6.esp=1
rfortaleza2-pauldron.esp=1
rfortaleza2-wetsuit1.esp=1
rfortaleza2_AE.esp=1
AkaAutomaticLaserTripwire.esp=1
BrighterSettlementLights_LongAndSoft.esp=1
Brighter Wasteland Workshop Lights.esp=1
dcc-bp-lol.esp=1
VtawWardrobe8.esp=1
DX_DarkMistress.esp=1
DX_FetishFashion_Part1.esp=1
DX_FetishFashion_Part2.esp=1
EndorsCustomCombatArmor.esp=1
EndorsCustomCombatArmor_AE.esp=1
EndorsCustomCombatArmor_CFA.esp=1
EndorsCustomCombatArmor_CAS_CCA_Cost.esp=1
EndorsCustomCombatArmor_AzarHair.esp=1
EndorsCustomCombatArmor_VaultSuitDLC_AE.esp=1
Tone_OverQueen.esp=1
OppaiMilkPasties.esp=1
DX_Pornstar_Fashion.esp=1
RealJetpack.esp=1
LegendaryModification.esp=1
LegendaryModification2LM.esp=1
LegendaryModificationMisc.esp=1
LegendaryModification2LMAKPatch.esp=1
LegendaryModificationCSA.esp=1
EndorsCustomCombatArmor_ChromeSynths.esp=1
LegendaryModificationGroknak.esp=1
LegendaryModification Enhanced.esp=1
Smoke-able Cigars.esp=1
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EroticArt.esp=1
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36 minutes ago, Nuka Cherry said:

Aside from that do you have buffout installed? https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/47359

 

Can you post a buffout crash log if so. That can help narrow down the crash (only really need the top part of the log).

I might have it, but I've never used it. So that might also be beyond my abilities.

Edited October 24, 2023 by Wandering_Mania
Grammar/spelling

[Battletooth]

Buffout has helped me a lot, lot less CTD, its just beast.

 

Also looking at your load list, i have similar mods, but not so much, you may run out of allowed script memory space in your game and saves.

There is mod for that, or just disable some mods that are not updated or have some conflicts, thats annoying work, thats why I usually avoid really complex mods or at least i dont install so many at same time.

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/46340

 

There are also some script and save cleanser, i have used them for skyrim, dont remember if i had to use one for FO4 too. Fallrim tools example

[Wandering_Mania]

28 minutes ago, Battletooth said:

Also looking at your load list, i have similar mods, but not so much, you may run out of allowed script memory space in your game and saves.

Well, I'll try that 'ScrapHeap' linked mod. It might be worth a shot. As I have been starting to see some really odd things starting to happen lately; My load order rearranging itself for one. Not to mention the 'limited time play-throughs'.

[Ijakor2]

i had the problem several years ago.

it was caused by some of flashys mods.

 

try this if it still works:

 

1. load your latest game.

2. reload your latest game.

3. try to save again.

 

at least worth a try.

[Wandering_Mania]

57 minutes ago, Ijakor2 said:

i had the problem several years ago.

it was caused by some of flashys mods.

 

try this if it still works:

 

1. load your latest game.

2. reload your latest game.

3. try to save again.

 

at least worth a try.

Well, it's not really the latest anymore. But that's one thing I didn't try. Or even think of trying. So it's worth a shot I guess.

 

Edit/Update:

Damn! I can't believe that worked. Thanks a bunch. As I loaded the last save that I couldn't finish because it started disallowing any further saves; tried reloading it again, and then it was able to save as normal.

 

Such a simple solution, that I would have never thought could possibly work; And never would have thought of, as I usually skip to the complex solutions.

 

Again thank you. Because I was able to recover my 'Starlight fortress' game (picture in the spoiler).

Spoiler

 

Edited October 25, 2023 by Wandering_Mania

[Nuka Cherry]

As a tip, use the mod "transfer settlements" to save your own city plans. If you have a corrupt save, you can reload the settlement on a new save and it will rebuild it for you entirely.

[Wandering_Mania]

17 hours ago, Nuka Cherry said:

As a tip, use the mod "transfer settlements" to save your own city plans. If you have a corrupt save, you can reload the settlement on a new save and it will rebuild it for you entirely.

Well that's a thought. But I do like manually building them. Because the more I do, the better they become, and I get more creative, with the layouts.