Players and NPC stuck in tpose

[sprite6969]

This happened right after trying to install estrus. I Installed all files, and requirements, made sure I got the correct version for my game. Ran FNIS, created Mod from overwrite, and Tpose ingame. So I remove Estrus, rerun FNIS, loaded save before mod install and still Tpose. I've tried everything I can think of at this point, reinstall FNIS, deinstall creatures, tried downloading and running nemesis, reinstalled skeleton. Cleaned save of scripts, and I am now at a complete loss on where to go from here. Any help would be greatly appreciated. 

[traison]

Guess it's safe to say then that when you uninstalled Estrus, you didn't actually uninstall Estrus. As in, you still have files from that mod lingering somewhere. Your mod manager should know where. Regardless, you didn't mention inspecting the FNIS log - the most essential thing here, and the answer to 99% of all T-posing issues. In fact, might as well post it here, as the next person posting in this thread is going to ask for it anyways.

[sprite6969]

Sorry, yea I went through log ad nothing jumped out. Here it is:
 

FNIS Behavior V7.6 XXL   9/1/2023 4:55:21 PM
Skyrim SE 64bit: 1.6.640.0 - D:\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\ (Steam)

Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (126 bones)   male: XPMS2HDT (126 bones)
Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix"  

Reading Babo bigguy V1.0 ...     ChAnims:68     CTD:0.4%     pOpt:0.1%
        NOTE: Babo bigguy has at least one identical -AV defined in both 's' and '+' line
Reading Babo Creature V1.0 ...     ChAnims:348     CTD:2.1%     pOpt:0.5%
Reading Babo Human V1.0 ...     ChAnims:494     CTD:3.0%     pOpt:0.7%
Reading Babo Zaz Standalone V1.0 ...     ChAnims:14     CTD:0.2%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading BaboAnimation V5 ...     ChAnims:55     CTD:0.5%     pOpt:0.2%
>>Warning: \character\behaviors\FNIS_BaboApproachRedux_Behavior.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
Reading BaboApproachRedux V5 ...     ChAnims:15     CTD:0.2%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading BaboMotionData V?.? ...     ChAnims:159     CTD:1.8%     pOpt:1.1%
Reading Defeat V5 ...     ChAnims:85     CTD:1.1%     pOpt:0.6%
Reading DogmaMods V1.0 ...     ChAnims:608     CTD:3.3%     pOpt:0.6%
Reading Fillherup V5 ...     ChAnims:29     CTD:0.2%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading FlufyFoxC V1.0 ...     ChAnims:93     CTD:0.6%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading FlufyFoxH V1.0 ...     ChAnims:398     CTD:2.5%     pOpt:0.6%
Reading FNISBase V7.6 ...     ChAnims:0     CTD:0.0%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading FNISCreatureVersion V7.0 ...     ChAnims:0     CTD:0.0%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ...     ChAnims:344     CTD:2.2%     pOpt:0.6%
Reading NibblesAnims_Creature V1.0 ...     ChAnims:107     CTD:0.7%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading NibblesAnims_Creature_Object V1.0 ...     ChAnims:16     CTD:0.1%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading NibblesAnims_Human V1.0 ...     ChAnims:259     CTD:1.6%     pOpt:0.4%
Reading NibblesAnims_Object V1.0 ...     ChAnims:148     CTD:0.9%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading SeranaHoodFixWithAnim V?.? ...     ChAnims:2     CTD:0.0%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading SexLab V1.64 ...     ChAnims:882     CTD:5.6%     pOpt:1.5%
Reading SexLabAP V1.64 ...     ChAnims:142     CTD:0.9%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading SexLabAroused V?.? ...     ChAnims:5     CTD:0.1%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading SexLabCreature V1.64 ...     ChAnims:177     CTD:1.2%     pOpt:0.3%
Reading SH_animFurn V1.0 ...     ChAnims:14     CTD:0.1%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading SRBCreatures V1.0 ...     ChAnims:23     CTD:0.2%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading testpack V1.0 ...     ChAnims:294     CTD:1.7%     pOpt:0.4%
Reading XPMSE V7.2 ...     ChAnims:164(164)     CTD:2.2%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading ZaZAnimationPack V7.00 ...     ChAnims:829     CTD:3.6%     pOpt:0.0%

All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files...
Alternate Animation mods: 1 sets: 16 total groups: 30 added file slots: 170 alternate files: 164

Create Creature Behaviors ...
Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ...
Reading Babo Creature V1.0 ...
Reading BaboMotionData V?.? ...
Reading Defeat V?.? ...
Reading NibblesAnims_Creature V1.0 ...
Reading SexLabCreature V1.63 ...
Reading FlufyFoxC V1.0 ...
Reading NibblesAnims_Creature_Object V1.0 ...
Reading SH_animFurn V1.0 ...
Reading SRBCreatures V1.0 ...

 5772 animations for 29 mods successfully included (character).
ChAnims: 5772  CTD:37.8%  pOpt:8.8%  max: 15276  LC: 9885 (max. 26162)

 1958 animations for 10 mods and 42 creatures successfully included..
 1 Warning(s).

[sprite6969]

I'm using MO2, where would tell me about lingering files?

[traison]

This is why you're T-posing:

Warning: \character\behaviors\FNIS_BaboApproachRedux_Behavior.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible

[sprite6969]

That fixed it, I have had approach installed for 20+ hours before installing estrus so I assumed it was fine. I guess that's what I get for assuming, thanks.

[traison]

On 9/1/2023 at 11:59 PM, sprite6969 said:

I'm using MO2, where would tell me about lingering files?

 

MO2 is in my opinion the best at dealing with clean uninstalls simply because of how it functions. In most cases you can be certain disabling a mod actually disables it. The cases where it does not work is when mods create new files that do not already exist anywhere else. These end up in the overwrite "mod" and will thus not be removed when the source mod is disabled. Some examples of mods that do this:

1. Any mod with an SKSE plugin is capable of writing files anywhere on your system. Perhaps most common ones being Racemenu, ECE and PapyrusUtil.
   1. Those written to the Data directory or its subdirectories will end up in overwrite.
   2. Those written outside the Data directory will not be redirected, with some exceptions like the skyrim ini files, depending on your MO2 settings.
2. Any mod with an SKSE plugin that exposes the capability of writing files to other systems i.e. FISSES.
3. Outfit mods that do not come with prebuilt (or other placeholder) meshes.

Some people like to keep their overwrite directory empty at all times; sorting files into their respective mods as they're created. It may be the prefered approach if you don't really know what you're doing when it comes to Skyrim modding. I personally do not bother unless there's a problem, or the overwrite folder starts to swell to unreasonable sizes because of unused files. Files in overwrite show up in MO2's conflict resolution tools like any other mod would, so I do not see the need to sort it. Obviously, at the point when you have all your mods in overwrite, you lose the benefits provided to you by a mod manager; 30% of the files in overwrite means you're 30% on your own pretty much.