Real High Heels Issue (I think)

[wilco444]

I've had this issue for a while and its become increasingly annoying. Whenever I swap out a RHH scripted item to a non RHH scripted item (sometimes it will happen with RHH item) my character cannot attack, block or cast spells for several seconds. The animations will play but only the start then return to neutral. If anyone has encountered the same issue and found a fix (or maybe identify a conflict in my load order) I would be extremely grateful!

 

 

Active Mod Files:

 

00 Oblivion.esm
01 Harvest[Containers].esm
02 Harvest[Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.esm
03 Harvest[Containers] - Havok Crates Add-on.esm
04 Harvest[Containers] - Player Home Add-on.esm
05 Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm
06 ShieldOnBack.esm [Version 3.4.1]
07 SPTDiverseGuards-Resources.esm
08 RealisticLeveling.esm
09 SDR.esm [Version 7.0.3]
0A Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.4.3]
0B UOPS Additional Changes.esp
0C Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
0D DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0E Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.2]
++ USIPS Additional Changes.esp
0F Idle Dialogue.esp [Version 1.3]
++ Symphony of Violence.esp
10 ChaseCameraMod.esp
++ 1HweaponOnBack.esp [Version 1.0]
11 Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 5.4.3]
12 DropLitTorchOBSE.esp [Version 2.4]
13 FormID Finder4.esp
14 Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.9.3]
15 Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.9.3]
16 Hotkey Pro.esp [Version 1.2]
++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp
17 VipCxj_HighHeels.esp
++ DMRA BBB Complete Clothing and Armor Replacer.esp
18 Dude Wheres My Horse.esp
19 Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp
1A Alluring Wine Bottles.esp
++ Harvest[Containers] - Vanilla - Ore Respawn.esp
++ Harvest[Containers] - SI - Ore Respawn.esp
++ Harvest[Containers] - Player Home Add-on.esp
++ Harvest[Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.esp
1B ToiletMod.esp
1C Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp
1D Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
1E HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 5.3.2]
1F Leviathan Soulgems.esp
20 SPTDiverseGuards-Core.esp
21 SPTDiverseGuards-Combined-Human.esp
22 Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp [Version 5.4.3]
23 Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.0.1]
24 Basic Primary Needs.esp [Version 6.2]
25 Basic Personal Hygiene.esp [Version 2.6]
26 Active_Inventory_Spell_1.2.esp
27 Denock Arrows.esp
28 Phitt's Phighting Phixes.esp
29 Unequip Broken Armor.esp [Version 2.8.2]
++ Nephs Stock Shoes Real High Heels.esp [Version 1.0]
2A bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV]
++ bgMagicItemSigil.esp [Version 1.68EV]
++ bgMagicEVStartspells.esp [Version 1.68EV]
++ bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp [Version 1.68EV]
2B bgMagicAlchemy.esp [Version 1.57]
2C Automatic Timescale.esp [Version 1.1.1]
** bgMagicEVShader.esp [Version 1.7EV]
2D bgMagicLightningbolt.esp
** Sensual Walks.esp
** Sensual Walks SI.esp
** Sensual Walks SI DS + GS.esp
2E Bashed Patch, 0.esp
2F DMRA FLY Robes RHH.esp
30 Neph's DMRA Robe Variety.esp
31 Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp [Version 3.3]
32 Neph's DMRA Robes - Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp
33 SPTDiverseGuards-Core Vwalk.esp
34 Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.0]
35 DMRA BBB R18PN Lingerie.esp [Version 1.3]
36 SDR_Detect Life Shader Patch [Oblivion].esp [Version 5.0.0]
37 SDR_Perks And Patches [Oblivion].esp [Version 7.0.3]
38 testing.esp
39 Nephs RHH Arena Raiments.esp
3A DMRA BBB Woman Warrior Set.esp

[kingkong]

i do not know about the load order    but   it might be a skeleton issue try to change the skeleton   (if it is not the skeleton try to run BOSS  Or wait for Gregathit )

[GMac2021]

RHH has always given me a hard time, so I can't really help with that. As kinkong mentioned, try running BOSS.

 

All those clothing mods below your Bashed Patch need to go a lot higher up in your load order - probably somewhere up around this :  DMRA BBB Complete Clothing and Armor Replacer.esp

 

MOO can stay below the Bashed Patch, but I'd check to see if these:

 

36 SDR_Detect Life Shader Patch [Oblivion].esp [Version 5.0.0]
37 SDR_Perks And Patches [Oblivion].esp [Version 7.0.3]

 

can be disabled and incorporated into your Bashed Patch. I am not familiar with them. 

 

And while I doubt it hurts anything, I don't think you need ToiletMod.esp when you are using Basic Personal Hygiene (unless, of course, you have modded it or setup the BPH .ini file to recognize it).

 

Fixing your load order is the first step in resolving your problems.

 

EDIT: I believe there is a fix for RHH here at Lover'e Lab that might be of help to you:

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/540-vipcxjs-real-high-heels-fpsbody-lift-fix/

 

 

 

[Uriel]

RHH is very unstable. I think some kind of trash data builds inside the mod over time, and kills all the fun. That's especially noticeable if you try RHH vanilla shoes reploacer that gives heels to all the NPC's.

You can't bloack/attack/cast because RHH erroneously updates your height a lot of times for the unknown reason: it plays a VERY short animation to change your height, and it breaks all other animations like casting, blocking or attacking. RHH also runs some strange manipulations with an invisible sword, that's made to prevent some kind of a bug, and it adds to the "animbreakability" too.

 

The question here is why it updates so much. And i believe it's that trash data i was talking before.

[wilco444]

Good news! I installed chupa's fixed .esp for the high heels and have yet to encounter the issue!

 

Thank you for all the help guys.

[Uriel]

It somewhat helps, but it only masks the problem by slowing RHHS loops down. So you will encounter those issues less often.

Also, you can get OBSE21 compatible RHHS from one of the last posts of that thread.