NPC Voices Changing Mid-Game

[RathAzu]

Hello all, 

I posted about this before, a few months ago, but I have a few updates that might hopefully lead to SOME help coming my way. My issue is that NPC voices are changing mid-game. Always to the same voice - a generic female voice. With the voice change, their script changes as well - previous idle dialogue just replaced with . . . well, not much of anything.

Previously, I had assumed that the issue was regarding only modded NPCS with custom voices, but on a new save game something else has occurred: Blake Abernathy's voice as has changed. At first, his script still existed (presumably because I was still in a quest with him) but his voice was totally gone - see here: 

 

 

Then, after I completed the quest, it changed to this: 

 

This is the same voice that the previous NPCS were changing into, the exact same bug. I had thought it had something to do with them being custom, but clearly I was mistaken. Anyone have any ideas? In due dillegence, I tried searching the issue again - I found the console command for changing an NPC voice - cf "ObjectReference.SetOverrideVoiceType" VOICEID - but it didn't work, even after trying to change him using that console command to the voiceID he has listed in FO4Edit. 

Here's my load order: 
 

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# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Fallout4.esm
DLCRobot.esm
DLCworkshop01.esm
DLCCoast.esm
DLCworkshop02.esm
DLCworkshop03.esm
DLCNukaWorld.esm
Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
CanarySaveFileMonitor.esl
AAF.esm
ArmorKeywords.esm
MorePrefabs.esl
TortureDevices.esm
Devious Devices.esm
AAFThemes.esl
CWSS Redux.esp
Homemaker.esm
Bememoth Separated Cart.esl
INVB_Outfits_Framework.esp
HUDFramework.esm
WhatsYourName.esl
INVB_WastelandDairy.esp
SkillBooks.esl
ChCl.esl
EsmeraldaPrefabMCMHouses.esl
TrueStormsFO4.esm
Floorsroofswalls.esl
Snap'n Build.esm
XDI.esm
FP_FamilyPlanningEnhanced.esp
LooksMenu.esp
BodyTalk3-LooksMenu.esp
CBBE.esp
ZaZOut4.esp
Vioxsis_Strap-Ons.esp
AAF_GrayAnimations.esp
Farelle_Animations.esp
Vadermania[AAF_anims].esp
Crazy_Animations_Gun.esp
AAF_CreaturePack01.esp
AAF_CreaturePack02DLC.esp
Atomic Lust.esp
Mutated Lust.esp
Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp
SavageCabbage_Animations.esp
Boston Breeder.esp
BraveAnims.esp
AAF_Four-Play_Animations_Crazy6987.esp
Behemoth No Cart.esp
BraveAnims_Fix.esp
Deathclaw_nude.esp
ErectionFix_SilverPerv.esp
Rottweiler Replacer.esp
SuperMutantFreezeFix.esp
UAP Moans.esp
Zaz Particle Effects.esp
AAF_Violate.esp
AAF_Violate_DLC_Patch.esp
AAF_Violate_Feral_Animations.esp
FPESuperMutantAddon.esp
FPEDogAddon.esp
AAF_Spectators.esp
AAF_AutonomyEnhanced.esp
FPAttributesHUD.esp
Rogg DD Items Manager.esp
Crackle.esp
AAF_VanillaFudge.esp
FO4HHS_AAF.esp
SlaveTattoos.esp
le666piercings.esp
HN66Fo4_EasyGirl_BS.esp
AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
Slave&ModelPinup.esp
Eli_Sleeveless Outfits.esp
HN66Fo4_TRS.esp
Lots More Facial Hair.esp
keke-bu Preston.19FD9_1.0.4.esp
Danse.esp
LooneyLongfellow.esp
SexEd.esp
ConsoleEnable.esp
KitcatsCampingGear_Portable.esp
Smoke-able Cigars.esp
SuperMutantWorkShop.esp
SettlementLimitSlashed.esp
3DNPC_FO4.esp
Armorsmith Extended.esp
Ketaros_Treasures.esp
FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp
FPAttributes.esp
Any Armour on Any Clothes - Legendary Edition.esp
MTO-Warzone.esp
INVB_WastelandOffspring.esp
NIS - Hunted.esp
3DNPC_FO4_DLC.esp
FPEAIOCreatureAddon.esp
FPE_BabyAddons.esp
problemsofsurvivor.esp
INVB_Storyline.esp
MaxwellsWorl.esp
DrunkenGnomes_Gnomepocolypse.esp
CheatTerminal.esp
KellyManor.esp
SKM_NoSettlementAttacks.esp
rxl_bp70_animations.esp
SMBehemoth Loincloth.esp
3DNPC_FO4Settler.esp
BoSStory.esp
RealHandcuffs.esp
MagnoCumGaudio.esp
SettlementAttacksBeyond.esp
Beggar_Whore.esp
MoreBobbleheads.esp
OldTimeReligion.esp
The Post Apocalypse Trailer.esp
AAF_BadEnd_Animations.esp
RealHandcuffs_DD_Compatibility.esp
DansesWearableHolotags_v01-2.esp
RealHandcuffs_AWKCR_Compatibility.esp
Craftable Bad End Furniture.esp
CROSS_BrotherhoodRecon.esp
FP_SexualHarassment.esp
AFVPurgatory.esp
Raider Pet.esp
Rusty Face Fix.esp
Enough About the Settlements Preston.esp
eFFoodPlanters - Extra Plants - High.esp
eFFoodPlanters - High.esp
Happiness Tweaks.esp
NIS_ScrapEverything_Patch.esp
Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp
TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp
TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp
TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.esp
SL Magazines.esp
PrefabHouses.esp
Custom Concrete with Glass.esp
Motorcycle_Flarescale.esp
Fawkes.esp
Lots More Male Hairstyles.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
HiPolyFaces.esp
LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
INVB_Resources.esp
INVB_WhatsYourName.esp
StartMeUp.esp
Knockout Framework.esm
Prisoner Shackles.esp
behSlaveMarket.esm
HumanResources.esp
WorkshopFramework.esm
Better Locational Damage - DLC_Automatron.esp
Better Locational Damage - DLC_Far_Harbor.esp
Better Locational Damage - DLC_Nuka_World.esp
Better Locational Damage - DLC_WWorkshop.esp
Better Locational Damage.esp
Better VATS - 0.75.esp
BLD - Leveled Lists - DLC.esp
Non-Lethal Armory.esp
TEEParty.esp
NoAffinityCooldown.esp
NoNegativeAffinity.esp
AAF_SEU.esp
RecruitableSettlers.esp
RecruitableSettlersFH.esp
AEM-dlc.esp
BetterLivingThroughCumistry.esp
AdvancedNeeds2.esp
AdvancedNeeds2_Expansion_03_AAF.esp
ImmersiveCleaning.esp
Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp
Cannibal.esp
RansackedRelay.esp
The Metro.esp
the library.esp
PennsWoods.esp
Egret's Secret.esp
OutcastsAndRemnants.esp
ProjectValkyrie.esp
AA FusionCityRising.esp
Depravity.esp
AA 50 Ways To Die.esp
AA FusionCityRising - HotC.esp
 

 

Edited February 1, 2022 by RathAzu

[Sgt. Marge]

There's one issue I've found that I think is tied to Sexual Harassment, it seems like when an NPC is trying to talk to you it can mute other NPC's voiced dialogue.  The only work around is to start talking to all the NPC's nearby to see which one it is.  I think there's also an option in the MCM so that it will tell you when you are getting approached.  However, I've never seen that issue cause a voice change.

 

The only thing I can suggest off the top of my head, is to open FO4Edit and hit OK so that it loads all your mods.  That might take a minute.  Then hit the + sign next to Fallout4.esm. 

In the Editor ID field, type Blake and hit enter.  This will find Blake Abernathy's record under the "Non-Player Character (Actor)"

Click on his record and look on the right hand side to see what other mods you have that modify or include him.  For me, it's Nuka Ride.  But I don't see that in your load order.

You can also click on the Referenced By tab and see what mods show up there. 

He's supposed to use VTCK - Voice "MaleBoston [VTYP:00023323]"  but after re-reading your post I see you already know that. 

 

Something I read yesterday was due to an issue I encountered where I was starting to get the cryogenic array garbled vault 111 voice lines when going into interior spaces after visiting vault 111 with Another Life as my alternate start mod.  And I saw that the solution involved doing a setstage on dialoguevault111 to 100.  So, maybe something similar can fix this, if we could figure out what the ID of his dialogue is for the quest?

We can see all the "dialogue quests" in the referenced by tab.  An example of that is DialogueAbernathyFarmBlakeConnie1 [QUST:00071DDE]. 

 

I don't remember how to get stages or how to find out how many stages there are.  But if he's somehow beyond the end stage, maybe setting his dialogue quest to the right stage will help?

 

?

 

The other suggestion I have is to keep Sexual Harassment disabled if you are anywhere near a quest NPC.  Unfortunately it can cause some problems.

Edited February 1, 2022 by Marg597
removed wrong info

[RathAzu]

I decided to try to see if Sexual Harassment was messing with him - I disabled and then loaded up again. No dice, still no voice. A bit more testing though, and I'm not sure the command to change voice even works  - I tried to apply it to a few other NPCs and didn't have any luck.

Edited February 1, 2022 by RathAzu

[AinzSamaBOIIII]

On 1/31/2022 at 9:08 PM, RathAzu said:

Hello all, 

I posted about this before, a few months ago, but I have a few updates that might hopefully lead to SOME help coming my way. My issue is that NPC voices are changing mid-game. Always to the same voice - a generic female voice. With the voice change, their script changes as well - previous idle dialogue just replaced with . . . well, not much of anything.

Previously, I had assumed that the issue was regarding only modded NPCS with custom voices, but on a new save game something else has occurred: Blake Abernathy's voice as has changed. At first, his script still existed (presumably because I was still in a quest with him) but his voice was totally gone - see here: 

 

 

Then, after I completed the quest, it changed to this: 

 

This is the same voice that the previous NPCS were changing into, the exact same bug. I had thought it had something to do with them being custom, but clearly I was mistaken. Anyone have any ideas? In due dillegence, I tried searching the issue again - I found the console command for changing an NPC voice - cf "ObjectReference.SetOverrideVoiceType" VOICEID - but it didn't work, even after trying to change him using that console command to the voiceID he has listed in FO4Edit. 

Here's my load order: 
 

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Fallout4.esm
DLCRobot.esm
DLCworkshop01.esm
DLCCoast.esm
DLCworkshop02.esm
DLCworkshop03.esm
DLCNukaWorld.esm
Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
CanarySaveFileMonitor.esl
AAF.esm
ArmorKeywords.esm
MorePrefabs.esl
TortureDevices.esm
Devious Devices.esm
AAFThemes.esl
CWSS Redux.esp
Homemaker.esm
Bememoth Separated Cart.esl
INVB_Outfits_Framework.esp
HUDFramework.esm
WhatsYourName.esl
INVB_WastelandDairy.esp
SkillBooks.esl
ChCl.esl
EsmeraldaPrefabMCMHouses.esl
TrueStormsFO4.esm
Floorsroofswalls.esl
Snap'n Build.esm
XDI.esm
FP_FamilyPlanningEnhanced.esp
LooksMenu.esp
BodyTalk3-LooksMenu.esp
CBBE.esp
ZaZOut4.esp
Vioxsis_Strap-Ons.esp
AAF_GrayAnimations.esp
Farelle_Animations.esp
Vadermania[AAF_anims].esp
Crazy_Animations_Gun.esp
AAF_CreaturePack01.esp
AAF_CreaturePack02DLC.esp
Atomic Lust.esp
Mutated Lust.esp
Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp
SavageCabbage_Animations.esp
Boston Breeder.esp
BraveAnims.esp
AAF_Four-Play_Animations_Crazy6987.esp
Behemoth No Cart.esp
BraveAnims_Fix.esp
Deathclaw_nude.esp
ErectionFix_SilverPerv.esp
Rottweiler Replacer.esp
SuperMutantFreezeFix.esp
UAP Moans.esp
Zaz Particle Effects.esp
AAF_Violate.esp
AAF_Violate_DLC_Patch.esp
AAF_Violate_Feral_Animations.esp
FPESuperMutantAddon.esp
FPEDogAddon.esp
AAF_Spectators.esp
AAF_AutonomyEnhanced.esp
FPAttributesHUD.esp
Rogg DD Items Manager.esp
Crackle.esp
AAF_VanillaFudge.esp
FO4HHS_AAF.esp
SlaveTattoos.esp
le666piercings.esp
HN66Fo4_EasyGirl_BS.esp
AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
Slave&ModelPinup.esp
Eli_Sleeveless Outfits.esp
HN66Fo4_TRS.esp
Lots More Facial Hair.esp
keke-bu Preston.19FD9_1.0.4.esp
Danse.esp
LooneyLongfellow.esp
SexEd.esp
ConsoleEnable.esp
KitcatsCampingGear_Portable.esp
Smoke-able Cigars.esp
SuperMutantWorkShop.esp
SettlementLimitSlashed.esp
3DNPC_FO4.esp
Armorsmith Extended.esp
Ketaros_Treasures.esp
FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp
FPAttributes.esp
Any Armour on Any Clothes - Legendary Edition.esp
MTO-Warzone.esp
INVB_WastelandOffspring.esp
NIS - Hunted.esp
3DNPC_FO4_DLC.esp
FPEAIOCreatureAddon.esp
FPE_BabyAddons.esp
problemsofsurvivor.esp
INVB_Storyline.esp
MaxwellsWorl.esp
DrunkenGnomes_Gnomepocolypse.esp
CheatTerminal.esp
KellyManor.esp
SKM_NoSettlementAttacks.esp
rxl_bp70_animations.esp
SMBehemoth Loincloth.esp
3DNPC_FO4Settler.esp
BoSStory.esp
RealHandcuffs.esp
MagnoCumGaudio.esp
SettlementAttacksBeyond.esp
Beggar_Whore.esp
MoreBobbleheads.esp
OldTimeReligion.esp
The Post Apocalypse Trailer.esp
AAF_BadEnd_Animations.esp
RealHandcuffs_DD_Compatibility.esp
DansesWearableHolotags_v01-2.esp
RealHandcuffs_AWKCR_Compatibility.esp
Craftable Bad End Furniture.esp
CROSS_BrotherhoodRecon.esp
FP_SexualHarassment.esp
AFVPurgatory.esp
Raider Pet.esp
Rusty Face Fix.esp
Enough About the Settlements Preston.esp
eFFoodPlanters - Extra Plants - High.esp
eFFoodPlanters - High.esp
Happiness Tweaks.esp
NIS_ScrapEverything_Patch.esp
Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp
TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp
TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp
TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.esp
SL Magazines.esp
PrefabHouses.esp
Custom Concrete with Glass.esp
Motorcycle_Flarescale.esp
Fawkes.esp
Lots More Male Hairstyles.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
HiPolyFaces.esp
LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
INVB_Resources.esp
INVB_WhatsYourName.esp
StartMeUp.esp
Knockout Framework.esm
Prisoner Shackles.esp
behSlaveMarket.esm
HumanResources.esp
WorkshopFramework.esm
Better Locational Damage - DLC_Automatron.esp
Better Locational Damage - DLC_Far_Harbor.esp
Better Locational Damage - DLC_Nuka_World.esp
Better Locational Damage - DLC_WWorkshop.esp
Better Locational Damage.esp
Better VATS - 0.75.esp
BLD - Leveled Lists - DLC.esp
Non-Lethal Armory.esp
TEEParty.esp
NoAffinityCooldown.esp
NoNegativeAffinity.esp
AAF_SEU.esp
RecruitableSettlers.esp
RecruitableSettlersFH.esp
AEM-dlc.esp
BetterLivingThroughCumistry.esp
AdvancedNeeds2.esp
AdvancedNeeds2_Expansion_03_AAF.esp
ImmersiveCleaning.esp
Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp
Cannibal.esp
RansackedRelay.esp
The Metro.esp
the library.esp
PennsWoods.esp
Egret's Secret.esp
OutcastsAndRemnants.esp
ProjectValkyrie.esp
AA FusionCityRising.esp
Depravity.esp
AA 50 Ways To Die.esp
AA FusionCityRising - HotC.esp
 

 

Did you ever find a solution? Im having the same problem myself, but its kinda game breaking since it happened with a quest npc from a mod im using called Sim Settlements, and now i cant talk to him.

[mecharoo]

On 11/25/2022 at 10:50 PM, AinzSamaBOIIII said:

Did you ever find a solution? Im having the same problem myself, but its kinda game breaking since it happened with a quest npc from a mod im using called Sim Settlements, and now i cant talk to him.

 

I have the same issue, with Jake. I tried pretty much everything I found online but no dice. I suspected a bunch of things and tried a lot out for hours with no success. My suspicions are indeed Sexual Harassment or AAF Violate, since those two mods had some data on him. Could even have been caused by Crime and Punishment.

 

Edit 1: What I did in order to be able to keep playing is to create a clone of Jake using the placeatme command. Anytime actual Jake gets stuck, I teleport his clone to me which gets the dialogue going. His clone only speaks the first line of dialogue, then the original Jake starts talking, but he is silent. Lol.

Edit 2: Well, thanks to OP, using the voice change command worked for my case. In case its useful, for Jake:
cf "ObjectReference.SetOverrideVoiceType" XX00E6CF

Replace XX with the Mod Index for SS2.esm - in my case, it was 0D.

 

From what I've seen, in my case, this may have been caused by AAF itself or some other mod due to things like these - AAF itself would mess some voices and not restore them:

https://bitbucket.org/dagobaking/aaf-framework/issues/7/store-restore-voice-type-override

I have no knowledge of how other mods deal with changing/muting voices, but I assume something like this was going on. Worth mentioning is that recently installing F4z Ro D-oh made things smoother.

Edited January 10, 2023 by mecharoo

[Nuka Cherry]

I am not sure what causes it (I thought it was AAF Autonomy) but you can assign voices via the console:

 

Select a target NPC in the console and type:

 

cf "ObjectReference.SetOverrideVoiceType" VOICEID

The basic settler voices are

MaleBoston      23323
MaleEvenToned   13AD2
MaleGhoul       l23321
MaleOld         CEAA3
MaleRough       2D
FemaleBoston    23324
FemaleEvenToned 13ADD
FemaleGhoul     23322
FemaleOld       CEAA2
FemaleRough     2E


So for example changing a voice to MaleBoston 

cf "ObjectReference.SetOverrideVoiceType" 23323

 

I am not sure what Jake's voice would be - you would have to dig around to find out.

[NoOneSpecial1311]

I'm having this exact issue with Ada and can't seem to be able to fix it. It's been hours upon hours since it's started and I rather not newgame.

I think it's caused by AAF - Violate since it appears to happen right after an assault.

 

Did anyone find a fix?

[Solissix]

On 2/11/2023 at 1:02 AM, NoOneSpecial1311 said:

I'm having this exact issue with Ada and can't seem to be able to fix it. It's been hours upon hours since it's started and I rather not newgame.

I think it's caused by AAF - Violate since it appears to happen right after an assault.

 

Did anyone find a fix?

 

 

This appears to be very similar to a somewhat rare bug in the base game and dlcs; where the game would fail to properly match actor aliases with the associated reference id. This results in named NPCs like Blake and Ada (as an example), becoming generic settler 1 and 2 because the game no longer has a reference to base their behaviour on; but it still needs to model it on something so it falls back to that. Worst case scenario, it fails to even fall back to that and you end up with a mute, cardboard cut out that can't be interacted with at all (My Erickson in far harbour did this after his ai package interrupted our first conversation too many times.) 

 

Since nearly everything in Fallout 4 runs off of some kind of trigger quest, so long as nothing fatal happened (corrupted RefID), generic multi start npc dialogue quests usually repair themselves upon cell/quest refresh, that's why traveling to the glowing sea and waiting a few days fixes that bugged No Name settlement merchant back in Sanctuary. This works fine for your average pipe pistol wielding No Name Settler, not so much with unique quest npcs.

 

Again, using the Nuke World Traders as an example, their entire dialogue is controlled by the quest DLC04DialogueSettlement; which is flagged to run just once upon game load. So if this quest is stopped for whatever reason; be it random bug, script overload, etc, you will be stuck with non interactive traders, essentially forever, since the quest will never be restarted or refreshed.

 

Its not all doom and gloom however, if you happen to know the quest controlling that npc's RefID, you can use the SQV command to check whether or not they have a proper RefID, bugged ones will usually show up as "NONE". From there you can force RefIDs into actor aliases as needed provided certain other conditions are met. Just beware that this is a temporary fix in most cases; what ever caused the Nuka Traders and Erickson to bug in my game got baked into my save; every reload of the game would wipe their RefIDs and I'd have to go through the whole process again. 

 

Also, some npcs seem more resistant to this problem then others, in my setup, Preston tends to holler from the museum balcony in a female settlers voice, revert to his normal voice while holed up with Sturges and Crew, back to female settler while fighting Gristle, to stoic mute while talking to Murphy about the chems, and then back to normal for the journey to Sanctuary lol.

 

Its a bit of a text wall, but hopefully this at least gives you a starting point for finding out whats wrong.