ctd due to overwrites

[xeroctr]

i have about 200 mods in mod organizer and expectedly some of them overwrite and cause ctd.

how can hdt mods overwrite, it seems so weird?! an anyone help me, if i delete these hdt mods i cant play the game as i want. 

 

here's the list

http://imgur.com/a/H6ZZz

 

 

and my load order

 

(8 -> 18) AP Skyrim.esm

(9 -> 8) Devious Devices - Assets.esm

(10 -> 9) SexLabAroused.esm

(11 -> 255) Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

(12 -> 10) BeeingFemale.esm

(13 -> 11) Heels Sound.esm

(14 -> 12) Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm

(15 -> 13) ZaZAnimationPack.esm

(16 -> 14) Devious Devices - Integration.esm

(17 -> 15) Devious Devices - Expansion.esm

(18 -> 16) daymoyl.esm

(19 -> 17) FM - HaafingarHall.esm

(21 -> 19) OSA.esm

(22 -> 21) FNIS.esp

(23 -> 22) SkyUI.esp

(24 -> 23) KS Hairdos - HDT.esp

(25 -> 24) LovelyHairstylesCE.esp

(26 -> 255) SLAnimLoader.esp

(27 -> 25) JKs Skyrim.esp

(28 -> 26) Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp

(29 -> 27) Captured Dreams.esp

(30 -> 28) DD - Interactions.esp

(31 -> 29) Devious Devices - Equip.esp

(32 -> 30) Deviously Enslaved.esp

(33 -> 31) DeviouslyHelpless.esp

(34 -> 32) EstrusChaurus.esp

(35 -> 33) zzEstrus.esp

(36 -> 34) EstrusSpider.esp

(37 -> 35) HAnimations.esp

(38 -> 36) SLAL_K4Anims.esp

(39 -> 37) MoreNastyCritters.esp

(40 -> 38) SexLabNudeCreatures.esp

(41 -> 39) SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp

(42 -> 40) SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp

(43 -> 41) Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

(44 -> 42) HentaiCreatures.esp

(45 -> 43) non-devious devices.esp

(46 -> 44) NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp

(47 -> 45) NusbieVoices.esp

(48 -> 46) SexLab More Creatures.esp

(49 -> 47) Immersive Weapons.esp

(50 -> 255) Schlongs of Skyrim.esp

(51 -> 48) sr_FillHerUp.esp

(52 -> 49) Victoria Velina Revamped.esp

(53 -> 50) Cloaks.esp

(54 -> 51) Run For Your Lives.esp

(55 -> 52) Deviously Cursed Loot.esp

(56 -> 53) sanguinesDebauchery.esp

(57 -> 54) SofiaFollower.esp

(58 -> 55) sr_FillThemUp.esp

(59 -> 56) CerwidenCompanion.esp

(60 -> 255) IcePenguinWorldMapPaper.esp

(61 -> 57) Devious Deviants.esp

(62 -> 58) SexLab_Dialogues.esp

(63 -> 59) Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp

(64 -> 60) FM - HHall Exterior.esp

(65 -> 61) DeviousMagic.esp

(66 -> 255) SOS - Shop.esp

(67 -> 62) Kate.esp

(68 -> 63) TZ_LockingLatexHoods.esp

(69 -> 255) SexLabAnimalSex.esp

(70 -> 64) LoversComfort.esp

(71 -> 65) R18pn - Shanoa Armors.esp

(72 -> 255) SexLabAnimalSexDawn.esp

(73 -> 66) SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp

(74 -> 67) SexLabMiscellaneousFeatures.esp

(75 -> 68) SexLab Sound FX Replacer.esp

(76 -> 69) SexLab Submit.esp

(77 -> 70) SexLabTools.esp

(78 -> 71) SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp

(79 -> 72) SexLabSquirt.esp

(80 -> 73) SkyrimBound.esp

(81 -> 74) SexLabDefeat.esp

(82 -> 75) SLALAnimObj.esp

(83 -> 76) NibblesAnimObjects.esp

(84 -> 77) KomAnimObjects.esp

(85 -> 255) SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp

(86 -> 78) BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp

(87 -> 79) BFA_CreatureChildActors_V+DG+DB.esp

(88 -> 80) dcc-buttplug.esp

(89 -> 81) DeviousToys.esp

(90 -> 82) GagSFX.esp

(91 -> 83) GagSFXDawnguard.esp

(92 -> 84) GagSFXDragonborn.esp

(93 -> 85) GagSFXHearthfires.esp

(94 -> 86) Ig-lee.esp

(95 -> 87) XiNafay - Shoes.esp

(96 -> 88) SerialStrip.esp

(97 -> 89) TreestumpConversions.esp

(98 -> 90) Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp

(99 -> 91) AMatterOfTime.esp

(100 -> 92) Ave's Radiant Jewelry.esp

(101 -> 93) BlackSacramentArmor.esp

(102 -> 94) Dark Envoy.esp

(103 -> 95) BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp

(104 -> 96) blessarmors.esp

(105 -> 97) BloodWitchArmor.esp

(106 -> 98) BS-TheHag_WarPaints.esp

(107 -> 99) sextoys-calyps-2.esp

(108 -> 100) Celtic_Music_In_Skyrim_v2.1.esp

(109 -> 101) CharmingHighHeels.esp

(110 -> 255) CHHH.esp

(111 -> 255) Convenient Horses.esp

(112 -> 102) Dagger Lady.esp

(113 -> 103) DemonHunter_Scarf.esp

(114 -> 104) DemonHunterV2armor.esp

(115 -> 105) R18Pn - Diano Armor.esp

(116 -> 106) ogDiverseDragons2.esp

(117 -> 107) MorePP.esp

(118 -> 108) Dread Knight Weapon Set.esp

(119 -> 109) EbonyValkyrie.esp

(120 -> 110) Elewin Pumps 2.esp

(121 -> 180) FNIS_Zoo.esp

(122 -> 111) Medusa and Drakul Armors.esp

(123 -> 112) Raven Witch Armor.esp

(124 -> 113) Emfy Cleric Robes.esp

(125 -> 114) LustmordVampireArmor.esp

(126 -> 115) newmillerChBikini.esp

(127 -> 116) Vampiric Knight.esp

(128 -> 117) 00FacialExpressions.esp

(129 -> 118) FollowerEleonora.esp

(130 -> 119) Gizmodian-Witchbane.esp

(131 -> 120) NS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.esp

(132 -> 121) Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

(133 -> 122) LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp

(134 -> 123) LeftHandRings.esp

(135 -> 124) PP_KSeries.esp

(136 -> 125) Lightweight Potions and Poisons.esp

(137 -> 126) Aradia Devious Expansion.esp

(138 -> 127) zzLSAR.esp

(139 -> 128) Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp

(140 -> 129) NewmLongHeels.esp

(141 -> 130) MithrodinSword.esp

(142 -> 131) Moniko.esp

(143 -> 132) Mord Sith Cara.esp

(144 -> 133) RaceMenuNails.esp

(145 -> 134) Nicos Raven Swords.esp

(146 -> 135) HentaiNightmareArmor.esp

(147 -> 136) No NPC Greetings.esp

(148 -> 137) Orcrist.esp

(149 -> 138) NewmillerPiercings2.esp

(150 -> 139) NewmillerPiercings3.esp

(151 -> 140) PPsmallbot.esp

(152 -> 141) PPsmallbotDB.esp

(153 -> 142) PPsmallbotDG.esp

(154 -> 143) RichMerchants.esp

(155 -> 144) RutahTattooPack.esp

(156 -> 145) SED7-CBBE3-BM_ALLin1-EDITION.esp

(157 -> 146) SED7-CBBE3-BM_GOLDEDITION_NipplePiercing_Rings.esp

(158 -> 147) SED7-CBBE3-BM_SILVEREDITION_NipplePiercing_Rings.esp

(159 -> 148) SED7-CBBE3-BM_UNIEDITION_Nipplewand.esp

(160 -> 149) SED7-CBBE3_GOLDEDITION_Barbell.esp

(161 -> 150) SED7-CBBE3_GOLDEDITION_femaleLabiaPiercings.esp

(162 -> 151) SED7-CBBE3_SILVEREDITION_femaleLabiaPiercings.esp

(163 -> 152) SED7-CBBE3_UNIEDITIONfemaleNipplePiercing_SwordNShield.esp

(164 -> 255) SeranaDNP.esp

(165 -> 153) Seductress Serana.esp

(166 -> 154) DarkStandalone.esp

(167 -> 155) Svs Collection Jewelry.esp

(168 -> 255) TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

(169 -> 156) Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp

(170 -> 157) TS_XinPHHeels.esp

(171 -> 158) FM - UNP Merchants.esp

(172 -> 159) sexlab_necro.esp

(173 -> 255) UIExtensions.esp

(174 -> 160) Umbra.esp

(175 -> 161) NightasyBondageArmor.esp

(176 -> 162) UNP Boots 02.esp

(177 -> 163) AKLeatherBoots.esp

(178 -> 164) AKHDTBuckskinLeatherBoots.esp

(179 -> 165) UNP High Heels.esp

(180 -> 166) Mystic Enchantress.esp

(181 -> 167) UNP Pantyhose.esp

(182 -> 168) NewVampChainsCuirass.esp

(183 -> 169) VampireLeatherArmorSet.esp

(184 -> 170) WWW.esp

(185 -> 171) Witch Elf Armour.esp

(186 -> 172) EllaFollower.esp

(187 -> 174) SOSRaceMenu.esp

(188 -> 175) XPMSE.esp

(189 -> 178) RaceMenu.esp

(190 -> 179) RaceMenuPlugin.esp

(191 -> 173) Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

[Verstort]

MO's Overwrite folder is a consequence of the merged virtual mod folder it uses to merge mods together on top of the game folder. MO creates a new folder that exists only in virtual space that has the original game contents moved to, then all mods on top of it, so that you can install multiple mods that modify the same file and the original remains in the original directory and you can tell MO which order you want mods to overwrite in real-time (fine tune), not at install time, so you can install and then uninstall and without deleting the original and not having to keep backups and/or reinstall if things get hairy.

 

But if the game and the mods are running in a virtual folder, what happens if they output something new like a log, to what they think is the game's directory (which is really the virtual folder)? It would normally disappear when the virtual folder disappears, instead MO recognizes that new files/folders, that didn't exist when the virtual folder is created, need a place to be written to, but MO isn't smart enough to return them to mod folders so it just make one big "overwrite" folder that will hold them all. All files in Overwrite are therefor new files that were generated after mod installation and MO doesn't know where to put them. FNIS typically dumps files there, so does bodyslide, and any logs or saved config files for mods like sexlab end up there.

 

It's not a folder that gets written to in the event of a CTD, at least I haven't heard of overwrite files being linked to crashing or freezing before now.

 

MO bugs the user to empty the overwrite file, listing it as an error in the upper right, because most users forget it exists, and since overwrite files get re-added to the virtual folder with the highest priority, last in the order, and they overwrite any file with the same name that may exist in installed mod files, you can get weird bugs if you leave your overwrite folder collecting dust/crap over a long period of time and forget those files can exist there. Rightclick on overwrite in MO and make it a new mod, give it a name with a today's date (saving it for later if you need to go back), then re-run FNIS and Bodyslide should return overwrite to a new-ish state. I would then recommend taking that clean overwrite, with only FNIS and bodyslide generated files, and make THAT into a mod, or move those files into your FNIS/Bodyslide folders, so that any new files that get generated update the files in the mod folder rather than creating new files in overwrite.

 

Why would removing HDT files in overwrite fix the game's crashing? Maybe check that you don't have an HDT based mod that is giving you issues? I'm guessing some physics is going amok and breaking havok's engine

[Lodakai]

Right click your overwrite folder... and create mod.  

This will put them all in its own folder which you will then need to either enable.. or sort through and decide the files you need.

You should do this every time a file ends up in your overwrite folder.

Either they are logs from mods.. or files needed by mods to be written.  Also your FNIS exports etc.

 

You can try to rebuild those files individually and sort them into their own folder by running the tools put that their files into the overwrite in the first place (such as fnis)

 

ETA:  I noticed the red minus sign next to your XPMSE folder.   Make sure that nothing is conflicting with your skeleton files from that folder.  If they are.. you will need to pull it down lower in the MO left panel load order to below the mod overwriting the skeleton file (assuming that is the conflict) I suspect the problem lies in realistic ragdolls.. that should be loaded before XPMSE.

 

Something is also overwriting the entirety of your netimmerse override.. so enabling it is useless.  Find out where the files overwriting it are and if they are newer or older versions. This will probably be racemenu... in this case.. disable netimmerse and use the one in racemenu. Netimmerse is already included in the latest versions of racemenu.

[xeroctr]

thanks for your help. i tried on my own and made a mess again. so i deleted the game and installed it again. for now im not installing any sexlab related mod. the game and the mods work without them. i will install them more elaborately and will listen to your cautions. thanks again.