I've never attempted a conversion myself until Nibble's 5.71 when I couldn't find an updated one. I've tried both Cathedral and the other method, and it's obvious I'm doing something wrong. I can get it to the point where MO and LOOT quit telling me it's not for SE, but if the animations do work, they only work for one of the actors. The version currently available for SE is a bit outdated and doesn't feature SirNibbles' new animations, but it's one of the most well done packs out there. Nibbles