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On 7/13/2020 at 4:16 PM, Monoman1 said:

- Added daydreaming to cum addiction. When your character starts to become desperate for cum she'll start to daydream a little and see the world from a unique perspective. 

V0.597  (01-Aug-2020) 

Just updated and now I have an odd effect that if my PC talks to male NPC they show up naked. I guess it's from the daydreaming?

Problem is that they quickly phase between naked/sos underwear, and I'm also not sure which option effects it if it's daydreaming. Does Daydreaming start if the PC is cum covered? It happens even if Cum addiction is deactivated. Arousal seems to not effect it (arousal was low already, thx to a wolf and Lola mistress ^^)

 

It feels a bit broken, especially if not the whole armor gets removed and on my setup gaps on limps appear.

Guess I have to overwork some male armor/male texture now =D

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That poor guy was fighting a lot with SOS, maybe cause he is a follower? Also I need to give him some armor that doesn't cause gaps if only boots are worn 😱

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1 minute ago, Lupine00 said:

I often bring up things like this, but Monoman prefers to turn the PC into a broken cum-addicted ruin (possibly limbless) that no sane man would marry in the first place, thus solving the problem before it occurs. :) 

haha i plan to avoid all those things if possible xD I just saw and downloaded this https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/103674  and was looking to test it out so it gave me the idea 😛I just need to find a strong handsome male follower who can protect me

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8 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

Problem is that they quickly phase between naked/sos underwear,

I didn't see this in my testing. Probably a conflict. Disable daydreaming in the cum menu if it causes issues. 

 

Daydreaming is active when cum hunger >= hungry. 

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2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

In my experience: Open mouth -> some seconds later half close mouth -> some seconds later again fully close mouth. 

I got that too with my first test with Expressive Facial Animation -Female Edition-.

After that I changed to Female Facial Animation and had the same issue => half open mouth.

Only after I exchanged mouth nifs to a fitting version to my head sculpt preset the mouth opened fully again, but that's only part of the issue and didn't repair the constant open/close mouth issue.

For a moment I feared the DDi gag fix patch was overwritten, but that wasn't it either.

 

Need to check now without Female Facial Animation.

 

Mouth nifs, mouth nifs everywhere now 😱

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8 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

I didn't see this in my testing. Probably a conflict. Disable daydreaming in the cum menu if it causes issues. 

 

Daydreaming is active when cum hunger >= hungry. 

Guess too with NFF maybe, need to play around more, was just the first impression.

Cum addiction was deactivated btw ^^

I activate it now and see what happens

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19 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

I got that too with my first test

I think we've different issues. 

My PC characters mouth opens perfectly when the button is pressed but a short time later was closing to half closed and later then closing completely. 

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1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

I didn't see this in my testing. Probably a conflict. Disable daydreaming in the cum menu if it causes issues. 

 

Daydreaming is active when cum hunger >= hungry. 

Could it be coupled with a high arousal (>= hungry + 70% arousal e.g.) ?  Like some other people said, I think it would be more realistic :)

Or even use the sexlab status instead of cum hunger : nymphomaniac + aroused ? 

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1 hour ago, donttouchmethere said:

V0.597  (01-Aug-2020) 

Just updated and now I have an odd effect that if my PC talks to male NPC they show up naked. I guess it's from the daydreaming?

Problem is that they quickly phase between naked/sos underwear, and I'm also not sure which option effects it if it's daydreaming. Does Daydreaming start if the PC is cum covered? It happens even if Cum addiction is deactivated. Arousal seems to not effect it (arousal was low already, thx to a wolf and Lola mistress ^^)

 

It feels a bit broken, especially if not the whole armor gets removed and on my setup gaps on limps appear.

Guess I have to overwork some male armor/male texture now =D

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That poor guy was fighting a lot with SOS, maybe cause he is a follower? Also I need to give him some armor that doesn't cause gaps if only boots are worn 😱

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I have the same issue, plus there is a void where the penis should be, which of course is very traumatising for a slut PC ;(

Also I noticed that daydreaming applies to children too, which is a bit weird.

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When I beg people for a pair of boots or gold and do the job they keep saying I did a terrible job and give me nothing. Is this because I have Sex experienced checked and SLSO installed? Do I just need to get more experience before I can actually get items or money from them?

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The "Daydreaming" feature cannot be turned off in the MCM menu.
I turn it off and it doesn't change anything. Male NPCs still get stripped and my character makes a weird face.

Further, since from its description, I am led to believe it is tied to cum addiction, the entire system as to when it's triggered seems to be broken as well.
My character is a virgin, and has 0 cum addiction, yet the daydreaming still triggers.

It is honestly quite annoying, I can't turn it off and I started my new game with this version of the mod so I can't just rollback. Is there going to be any hotfix soon?

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54 minutes ago, Crota said:

When I beg people for a pair of boots or gold and do the job they keep saying I did a terrible job and give me nothing. Is this because I have Sex experienced checked and SLSO installed? Do I just need to get more experience before I can actually get items or money from them?

If your SLSO is set up properly then you simply failed to make them cum, hence why they call you a worthless whore and refuse to aid you. I think there's a mechanic that makes you more proficient in different sex acts depending on your experience. as well as one that makes it easier to bring certain races in Tamriel to climax. Make sure you understand how the mini-game works too (or just make it easier in the settings.) 

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5 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

My PC characters mouth opens perfectly when the button is pressed but a short time later was closing to half closed and later then closing completely. 

That's the same I see on my game atm. On my Setup it's blinking unrelated.

I always thought it's a DDi issue, the DDi gag patch doesn't perfectly fix it, it just makes sure that the mouth opens again after it closes for what ever reason.

Why do I show the issue with a gag? Because the symptoms are the same as with SLS open mouth.

(maybe that's a hint?)

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Now the same issue with SLS, just that instead of open/close like with the DDi patch, the mouth just closes

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and here the full sequence with half closed mouth and after that fully closed mouth:

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The daydreaming feature seems to be totally unaffected by either cum hunger or MCM settings. It's always at 100% 😋

 

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Also there are some oddities:

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I removed all underlying equipment (means also the default equipment) from this NPC, so he would be perfectly naked,

but as soon as I start a conversation I get gaps:

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Not all NPCs are effected by this, or at least not visible as long as gloves and boots cover the gaps.

Okay, basically all male NPC get the gaps during dialogue if they don't wear outfits that are large enough to cover the gaps

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gloves and boots hide the gaps during dialogue

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The SOS underwear blinking in and out happens only with NPC that have an underlying alternative outfit, like NPC that wear armor, but if you remove those they all the sudden wear some civil clothes instead of being naked (I remove those underlying outfits with "Dress up lover's" mod).

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40 minutes ago, Network said:

My character is a virgin, and has 0 cum addiction, yet the daydreaming still triggers.

 

3 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

The daydreaming feature seems to be totally unaffected by either cum hunger or MCM settings. It's always at 100% 😋

Agreed, thought it was maybe an se issue so didnt flag it as a problem. It also triggered for me as a virgin who has never touched cum and had the phasing of naked/clothed.

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Posted 0.598 to the post. Should fix oddness with daydream. 

 

The problem stems from the fact that the OnInit() portion of the code is ran even if the quest is not flagged at 'start game enabled'. I know this but it's easy to forget. 

Also fixed a bug in the mcm toggle. 

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56 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

Now the same issue with SLS, just that instead of open/close like with the DDi patch, the mouth just closes

Yea I too have been seeing something similar with the gag. Gags used to work perfectly for me so it's something that's been added recently-ish

 

56 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

Also there are some oddities:

The gaps I'll have to look into later. I'm out of time. I just figured it was the crappy meshes in my creation kit profile. 

 

Are you guys getting the imagined cum on the ladies faces? Haven't seen anyone mention it yet. 

 

The blinking in and out of the undies: there's got to be a bad interaction with something else I think. 

What's happening in the background is that the _SLS_HalfNakedArmor is being added to the Npc and equipped. 

_SLS_HalfNakedArmor should be marked as revealing in SOS so maybe just add one your yourself, equip it and check in the SOS mcm that it is marked as revealing. 

 

Initially it was also making males fully erect but that was causing issues so I've left it out for now. 

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6 hours ago, Mehmeme said:

Also I noticed that daydreaming applies , which is a bit weird.

Fuck. I will fix that as soon as I can :(

 

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22 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Gags used to work perfectly for me so it's something that's been added recently-ish

must be something I have added now too 🤔

It's not with all Setups that the gagged open/close mouth happens, but I also see my PC mostly from behind xD

22 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

The gaps I'll have to look into later. I'm out of time. I just figured it was the crappy meshes in my creation kit profile. 

uff, better some crappy meshes in a creation kit than me messed up somewhere ^^

 

22 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Are you guys getting the imagined cum on the ladies faces? Haven't seen anyone mention it yet. 

I was too long in that tavern so after a while everyone was covered in real virtual cum and not the imagined one ^^.

But I found a series without imagined cum I guess:

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(Kziit mouth nif btw, wouldn't get that gaping mouth with female facial animations, goes well with the tongue tho)

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3 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

You just add a check:

If !sslBaseExpression.IsMouthOpen(PlayerRef)

       ; Ok to change/clear expression

EndIf

Unfortuantly I don't have the knowledge of papyrus to do this. No idea where to stick it and in your edit to player headtracking, I couldn't find the exact same change.

 

Edit. Actually I'm not even sure it's realted. It still happens without any head tracking.

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5 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

This head tracking mod seems to half close the PC mouth on track events

Ah, I'm using a different one, with custom voice sets (I created one by myself for it). This one. Does exactly as I described - if PC looks to someone then the expression changes and the mouth is closed (damn, I didn't know you are looking into the issue and I didn't want to push my luck asking for a fix 😛 )

 

Apart from that there are also things like Blush When Aroused (here on LL) or anything that changes the archetype of the PC (my guess that even idle animation mods can do this)

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I think I getting closer what closes the mouth regularly on my setup:

PC Head Tracking and Voice Type => tried to deactivated options to find the right one, but at the end I had to just deactivate all functions of it. To Test it's effects I had to reload or restart Skyrim everytime I changed something in it's MCM.

 

Devious Training 3 => if gag training is activated.

Deactivating the gag training stops the opening/closing of the mouth. If gag training was activated before => after gag training deactivation a DT3 reset, a cell change or/and game restart is needed to see the changes without DT3 going crazy.

 

Can live without the DT3 gag training, but the PC head tracking hits hard.

I even fear those two where conflicting all the time (if trained in gags and/or blindfolds) >.<

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4 hours ago, Dupline said:

Edit. Actually I'm not even sure it's realted. It still happens without any head tracking.

Unfortunately it's not specific to headtracking mods. Any mod that tries to set or clear the player facial expression will cancel it. 

 

Perhaps the only path is to simply add a more aggressive setting of the mouth being open periodically instead of being a once off. Having your mouth open isn't something you do for extended periods of time anyway.....

But it's not ideal at all. 

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I honestly don't know if this is the right thread to ask...

 

When my character's hands/arms are severed, she can't equip spells. Is there a way to disable this restriction? My character doesn't cast magic from her hands. :)

 

I didn't see anything related in the MCM. I'm using Amputator Framework Tweaked 1.3 and this mod. Perhaps it's something I can easily modify in xEdit?

 

Thank you.

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8 hours ago, tamai said:

I just need to find a strong handsome male follower who can protect me

Grommok the Bruiser (from Troubles of Heroine) or Andrew the Bulwark (from Sex Slaves - Mia's Lair) are both great candidates :) 

 

Alternatively, there's always the classic: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/71754 and some people seem to like Kaidan   https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/86872 or his improved clone (imaginatively named Kaidan 2)  https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/92811/ but as far as I know there is no way to marry the jumped up cat you can rescue from a prison.

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20 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

Grommok the Bruiser (from Troubles of Heroine) or Andrew the Bulwark (from Sex Slaves - Mia's Lair) are both great candidates :) 

 

Alternatively, there's always the classic: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/71754 and some people seem to like Kaidan   https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/86872 or his improved clone (imaginatively named Kaidan 2)  https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/92811/ but as far as I know there is no way to marry the jumped up cat you can rescue from a prison.

Thanks for the recommendation kaiden looks great you're awesome!! I was deciding between cael and bishop personally my usuall skyrim husbands from skyrim romance 😀,  but I'm willing to sleep around and give someone else a chance lol

 

 

Edit: not into cat guys I'm a dog person anyway

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Ahh the naked men is a feature not a bug... but they keep flashing between clothed and not and are missing their penis which is disconcerting. Daydreaming kinda needs a bit of a drunk effect like soft focus vignette and weird colours  

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