Do you feel guilty when you cheat?

[MsOtaku]

Only cheating when you're hammered, fun minus guilt.

If you obsess endlessly after drinking so as not to obsess,

it becomes a cycle of despair.(You feel guilty about obsessing about your cheating peccadillos, so you drink to forget, and obsess twice over.)

 

Like that word I just typed, "Peccadillos", is it cheating to pretend I know exactly what it means and how to spell it,

or does everyone just assume I cheat if I dare to use it?

I need a drink.

 

It's correctly spelled "peccadilloes". I'll mail you a bottle of vodka. xoxo

[Chaos63]

Only if she's ugly.

[MsOtaku]

Only if she's ugly.

 

Not the point of the thread but, okay. Thanks for sharing.

[bjornk]

@OP: No, because I don't hurt or offend anyone by using cheats in a game. There are several reasons why people use cheats in single-player games and none of them is anybody's business. Just don't ask for technical support for potential problems caused by the cheats you've used and deal with them yourself.

[Farinata of Oblivion]

I use a few mods that could be considered cheats in skyrim and fallout 4, one of my favorites is the fallout 4 sucider replacement mod... it removes those insane kamikaze super mutants from the game... why? because they annoy the crap out of me. Nothing makes me ragequit faster than finding a crows nest, pulling out my sniper moded righteous authority and picking off one confused mutety after another only to be blown to crap 5 seconds after hearing that ticking noise, never having seen the thing that was about to kill me. 

I have another one that replaces fat man owning raiders with standard missile launchers and combat rifles, again because I don't like being killed before I even see the enemy. 

In skyrim I have two cheat mods, one that raises the perks per level to 3 and another that makes wood chopping and mining animations loop. The former I have because to be blunt I like being OP without having to turn the difficulty down, and the latter I have because I find clicking a every 5 seconds tedious. 

As for console commands, I only use those to get around stupid glitches, like in fallout 4 how the level 4 merchants don't actually show up where they are supposed to. Or in Skyrim whenever I get stuck inside a rock or a wall or some other bloody thing. 

But the main reason I cheat in games is because I often restart before completion because I didn't like the direction I took my game in or because I realized I could have done something differently that would have made me stronger by now. Its a nasty habit that has prevented me from actually finishing a lot of games. So I sometimes cheat in the beginning to speed up my progress back to where I left off. 

[Cynical Misanthrope]

Yeah, I cheat in games and I don't feel any guilt what so ever. But it also comes down to what kind of games I'm playing and the scope of the cheating.

I never use any god mode or something similar. Just mods that makes me greatly more powerful.

When I played Skyrim, I often used cheats such as "I have ten fingers, so ten rings it is, for each finger" - kind of mods.

 

I want to play a game my way, so I wanna feel powerful. But at the same time, having that danger over my head, if I fuck up, I can still die.

 

When I play more racing games (simulation) I don't cheat. But I set up a race so I have change to win if I work hard for it.

So in other words, setting the AI around my skill level.

 

Right now, I'm playing Neverwinter, which is an online game. So you can't cheat, but you can still become very powerful quickly, by doing dungeons, skirmishes, invocations and equip runes to your gear. By doing this, you will become so overpowered, so you will rush through quest areas by almost one shooting everything. 

[SuccubusAlexa]

sometimes I feel guilty when I cheat in games. sometimes.

[PanicBunny]

I used to cheat all the time in WC2 (member it is a good day to die ; member glittering princess)

And I used to player.advskill smithing (cuz fuck grinding. I´m not grinding in a single player game. Wtf?) but now I use the mod where you can pay the Blacksmith/Enchanters to craft stuff for you. 

So I´d argue that i don´t really cheat nowadays.

[Nazzzgul666]

 

I don't mind if people do it since after all it's your game but honestly why play at all if you don't want challenge or adversity to keep your brain on?

Depends on the game and task. In Skyrim and cheating skills, i mean where is the challenge at all? Back in Morrowind i felt the same way, instead of cheating i hit 'c' and put a coffee cup on my key to sneak, went reading a book. Or casted skeletons and instantly destroyed them with a fireball for hours. Today i don't think anymore that's clever. If i want a skill some lvls up, i just type it.

And because of mods like sexlab and defeat, it's more often i lose a battle by purpose than accidently. On the other hand those mods are often the reason i break quests if i accidently get defeated. If i have the feeling it's a challenge where i have to use my brain, i reload and try again with a better strategy, but often i did it 99 times before and i don't see a point in doing that task 5 more times the hard way instead of just cheating or reducing difficulty. 

 

More general: in RPGs where the "strategy" is just repeat and repeat until you have enough experience, i don't mind cheating much. I hate doing the same stuff over and over again just to become stronger. I'm not playing them because it's a challenge but an intresting story i want to see.

In strategy games where it's possible to succeed with the abailities you have i never use cheats, though. Except reloading, which might be considered cheating as well.

[Zabuzed]

I mostly cheat when I find features I want to try fast, mostly in games with a boring and endless seeming beginning. In Skyrim e.g. I was very pleased about the Alternate Starts mod, because before I made dozens of notes to remind me what to do where, as I always tend to start games with every available char (way before ending the game with one) - or in that case, with every race.

 

In fact I am the never ending gamer    If I think the game is that good that I can go on with it, I rarely see the endgame stuff. The way is often funnier than the result and so I cheat mostly money to build stuff I normally can't in early stages. Ability cheats and other things, that's not that interesting. One-shot of every enemy... no, not my style. Building a home in every available town at once as soon as I get the opportunity (still Skyrim, but the same is correct for the Sims and Fallout - yay, Bethesda heard me!) - YES 

 

Oh, boring stuff in The Sims... during early stages my sims use the cheatwhateverenabledthingy to learn at least 3 levels of the skills they need non-stop. Can you imagine a young adult coming to a new town with no skills at all? For me that's BS. Little children have more skills than the newbies, there's something wrong. So... I use cheats to compensate strange developer's behavior, too. And of course I see mods that change the game as cheats, too. But as I don't really care...

 

Fact is: Games are developed to make fun. If I don't have the fun I expected, I use cheats or mods or both, not feeling guilty at all. After all I paid for it, if it isn't fun enough and I can't cheat or mod the hell out of it, I delete it and send the developers to hell.

[MsOtaku]

Oh, boring stuff in The Sims... during early stages my sims use the cheatwhateverenabledthingy to learn at least 3 levels of the skills they need non-stop. Can you imagine a young adult coming to a new town with no skills at all? For me that's BS. Little children have more skills than the newbies, there's something wrong. So... I use cheats to compensate strange developer's behavior, too. And of course I see mods that change the game as cheats, too. But as I don't really care...

 

 

 

OMG I cheated the hell out the Sims.

[Blackhearted]

Nope, never but I prefer not to but there have been times when I felt some aspects of certain mods were completely unreasonable and/or pointless.  Using God Mode during the part where you have to fall down a shaft in "A Devil's Wish" mod for Fallout 3 is a perfect example.

[Content Consumer]

 

Oh, boring stuff in The Sims... during early stages my sims use the cheatwhateverenabledthingy to learn at least 3 levels of the skills they need non-stop. Can you imagine a young adult coming to a new town with no skills at all? For me that's BS. Little children have more skills than the newbies, there's something wrong. So... I use cheats to compensate strange developer's behavior, too. And of course I see mods that change the game as cheats, too. But as I don't really care...

 

 

 

OMG I cheated the hell out the Sims.

 

 

Absolutely. Never played the Sims, but I've played the hell out of Sims 2. Mostly cheats to get more money, because I didn't want to spend literally generations to build up enough to afford a nice house. Often the anti-aging cheat too (though sometimes I'd forget to turn it off after giving birth, which got to be super annoying   ). And after one sim died due to malnutrition after being abducted by aliens, I started using the cheat that gives full needs whenever a sim would get abducted. And a couple of others IIRC.

[MsOtaku]

The Sims 2, in my opinion, was the BEST. I gave them enough money to start off with, sped up the whole potty training thing with toddlers (omfg so annoying), no jealousy, "make me friends with everyone" to advance in their career, and modded the hell out of it. Strip clubs, dirty motels, sex dungeons. You name it. Ah.... so many fond memories.

[Content Consumer]

My Sims 2 downloads (mods) directory contains 993mb in 2,485 files. I could have sworn there were more... I'm not sure about the average number of files-to-mods either. Lots of clothing mods, several sex mods, lots of house (object, wallpaper, etc) mods, lots of hair mods...

 

Great. Now I want to start up Sims 2 again. There's a time sink.

[MsOtaku]

I've been thinking about doing that for a long time but, my favorite Sims 2 naughty site is long gone..... I don't think any one makes naughty stuff for that game any more. I really didn't like 3 and I refuse to play 4.

 

Man, I was evil in my Sims games. *Puts Sim in pool and removes ladder*

[Content Consumer]

I used to have a family who would take random passersby and lock them in tiny one-square rooms until they died. I was trying to make a gravestone collection.

That's where I learned that certain NPCs, like paperboys and mail deliverers, cannot die.

[MsOtaku]

Holy crap! I did the same thing when I wanted a cemetery in front of my home! Sometimes for shits and giggles I'd put them in there with a stove and a fridge when they had zero cooking skills and watch them burn.

 

 

I may need help.

[joemonco]

Some treasures in Skyrim are "unreachable" (to high or to far) . Is using "tcl" cheating?

 

Why toggle clipping when you can just use a bucket to run through walls?  Why set your skills super high when you can beat the living hell out of harold or kumar for days on end before you leave Helgen?  Why use godmode when nothing requires any more tactics than walking up to them and clicking until they die?

 

About the only cheats necessary in vanilla skyrim are giving yourself enough iron ingots/logs/straw/glass to build a house.

[Bazinga]

I never cheat.

Don't see the point. When I'm playing a game the most fun part for me always is the challenge aspect. If it's not challenging I won't play much further than the tutorial anyway. If it's frustratingly challenging and at the same time kinda boring (Dark Souls, looking at you) I also don't cheat and just give up.

It's very simple really.

If the game isn't fun I just delete it and try a new one. There are too many games out there anyway.

With heavily moddable games like Skyrim it's something different. If I'm not fooling around with turning it into a porn game (which got increasingly fun lately since the mods got better or more stable ... thanks guys and gals  ) I try to stick to mods that have a vision for the whole game (Enderal, Requiem, stuff like that). Separate mods for every aspect of the game indeed reek of cheating since that creates balancing issues and loopholes. I need someone pulling all the strings, having a vision and so on. And then I treat that someone as the new developer and don't give a shit about what Bethesda originally intended. Simple as that.

Other than that I sometimes install mods that make a game harder. But not the Jagged Alliance 2 1.13 "we swear it's harder but you can snipe across the map against a still crippled AI" bullshit, I mean harder.

[Veladarius]

Not one bit. I have bat files to give me more than enough of everything to build a Hearthfire house and furnish it and another for forging that gives 50 of every material used. I will give my character whatever armor and gear I want from the start as well. I also have a mod that changes the leveling of skills and such and set it so I get more perks per level (2-3) and more of whatever stat that I choose (health, mana, stamina). I also use some mods that make the enemies tougher so it does not guarantee that I will easily kill whatever I come across though.

[Carabosse]

I wouldn't cheat to begin with to be honest (when I first saw the topic I thought it was referring to relationships, same applies ). I've never enjoyed it in games where you are this almighty warrior that isn't threatened by the hordes of enemies you come across. The most fun part is the struggle, I find. I often reach a point in rpgs where my character has become too 'strong' and I have to begin over. And that whole saviour of the world nonsense that they all try to force you into. Everything revolving around you, I hate it so much.

 

What I'd most like is just to be a bit part player in a big living world. Witnessing events. Just an average citizen. That's why Skyrim is so great. It gives you so much flexibility to tailor your experience as you see fit (and still it's far from ideal). With the help of mods of course.

[arpaschad]

cheat in relationships: NO

cheat in academics: NO...better be an honest failure than a successful liar...

cheat in games: maybe...if the game is too boring enough...

 

does modding in games counts as cheating? some people say it does...but I'd rather have new content on a good game rather than replay the base game over and over and over again...

[flutie]

if she has ur hart, if he has ur hart, it could be love

 

[Khajiirah]

Well i just cheat to test new downloded items,..

 

but sometimes i disable actors in fallout or Skyrim, especially this Areana Fan in Oblivion i did cheat away! lol

 

But i always save the Game and load it so there is no cheating in game, but when i forget this and i play and play and play, well then i shouldnt wonder if i cant find a Quest NPC after 5 Hours of searching when i did cheat him away before.

 

So i dont cheat,...

 

well..

 

Pepperonipizza in Age of Empires, was the only cheat i used in a Game.. *laughes*