quest Thief

[bushigemen]

I need help, I have completed Liorel's request but I can't find Jona in NGCC

[Highborn]

14 hours ago, bushigemen said:

I need help, I have completed Liorel's request but I can't find Jona in NGCC

If you have mods that changes the New Gnisis, disable it. She should be sitting in a table in front of the bar.

[Amonshinky13]

This isn't getting me anywhere, hahaha. What can I do?

 

[nothing2lose]

On 3/14/2026 at 11:15 AM, Highborn said:

Go to their hideout in front of Bryling's house and talk with them

first time i heard about this quest, when was it and how you triggered it?

[MorellosWonder]

4 hours ago, nothing2lose said:

first time i heard about this quest, when was it and how you triggered it?

in the new content when Vala asks you to find the Grey Fox.

there is an auction where beggars harass you, you have to interrupt the scene the first two auctions, then Vala will give you the optional quest objective to deal with the beggars before the third auction. 
 

you can then find them at their camp in Brylings garden 

[Voronves]

Anyone got link to the official Dogma walkthrough site? I lost it somwhere and google search just gives Dragons Dogma guides xD 

[bushigemen]

On 3/15/2026 at 3:07 AM, Highborn said:

If you have mods that changes the New Gnisis, disable it. She should be sitting in a table in front of the bar.

First of all, thank you for your answer. I haven't installed any mods that change New Gnisis. I am wondering if there is Jona's ID that makes her appear directly in NGCC for the initial conversation.

[Mari Rin]

Can you tell me, where can I find a sauna?

[MorellosWonder]

3 hours ago, Voronves said:

Anyone got link to the official Dogma walkthrough site? I lost it somwhere and google search just gives Dragons Dogma guides xD 

https://www.dogma-mods.com/thief/walkthrough/main-story/riften/bee-and-barb

 

[MorellosWonder]

19 minutes ago, Mari Rin said:

Can you tell me, where can I find a sauna?

you mean the one in Silent Wood? It’s to the right of the lake in the very back. Patto sits next to it after the Evening Call.

 

there are no saunas outside silent wood added by this mod

[yui515]

I've had Vikar earn 10,000 gold, but I still don't have a house. Is completing the main story (including the pregnancy quest) necessary to get a house? Also, is there a console command to start quests after I have a house?

[Highborn]

6 hours ago, bushigemen said:

First of all, thank you for your answer. I haven't installed any mods that change New Gnisis. I am wondering if there is Jona's ID that makes her appear directly in NGCC for the initial conversation.

Try using mods that can locate NPCs and teleport them to you, like Modex. You can search NPCs (Actors) by plugin, select the Thief one and type Jona, then make her teleport to you (don't use the place option or it will make a copy of her, and watch out for not teleporting you to her).

 

 

2 hours ago, yui515 said:

I've had Vikar earn 10,000 gold, but I still don't have a house. Is completing the main story (including the pregnancy quest) necessary to get a house? Also, is there a console command to start quests after I have a house?

From what I remember you need to leave Falkreath and then the house should appear. Took me some fast travels here and there to trigger it. I think the courier should also bring you a letter from him

Edited March 16 by Highborn

[Sheera Khan]

Help! Falkreath carriage is gone  

[crofie695]

While attempting to customize Slientwood outfit, I found that PlayerNewbieClothAlt actually uses FishingDressAlt_1.nif, while PlayerFishingClothAlt uses NewbieDressAlt_1.nif...

[brewmasterhal]

1 hour ago, crofie695 said:

While attempting to customize Slientwood outfit, I found that PlayerNewbieClothAlt actually uses FishingDressAlt_1.nif, while PlayerFishingClothAlt uses NewbieDressAlt_1.nif...

 

Known issue.  For now, best bet is to fix it yourself either by swapping the names of the outfits or creating a patch with xEdit that corrects the references.
 

5 hours ago, Sheera Khan said:

Help! Falkreath carriage is gone  

What happens if you talk to him anyway?  Try and start the scene, possible you could end up riding an invisible cart.

[kakarot300]

I'm having a bug in madame petit's bathroom when you loose at dice for the "bet your ass" achievement. when the sex scene is suposed to start my character starts walking away and gets stuck in the stairs. anyone has had this bug? Also in the skunkway in the arena. I got to champion but when I try to fight naked it says (I can't go out naked again) or something like that so I can't fight naked for the side quest.

Edited March 18 by kakarot300

[Mushikisai]

I don't know this is bug or not, when the first scene Tolgan debt and then i choose fuck with 2 his friend... And then after that the first day trial happen, butttttttttt its night 11:30PM  not morning.. and after norring's intro the quest shows it's day0 rather than day1, and then the only thing I can do is to sleep and then Tolgan came again??

 

So i load again when the first Tolgan debt scene happen but i choose Tolgan only and after that everything normal after this its morning not night unlike previous situation with two his friends... It's annoying tbh 

Edited March 20 by Mushikisai

[brewmasterhal]

1 hour ago, Mushikisai said:

I don't know this is bug or not, when the first scene Tolgan debt and then i choose fuck with 2 his friend... And then after that the first day trial happen, butttttttttt its night 11:30PM  not morning.. and after norring's intro the quest shows it's day0 rather than day1, and then the only thing I can do is to sleep and then Tolgan came again??

 

So i load again when the first Tolgan debt scene happen but i choose Tolgan only and after that everything normal after this its morning not night unlike previous situation with two his friends... It's annoying tbh 

 

This is a bug.  No idea how you may have triggered it, but none of that should be possible.

[thiciathy]

8 hours ago, Mushikisai said:

I don't know this is bug or not, when the first scene Tolgan debt and then i choose fuck with 2 his friend... And then after that the first day trial happen, butttttttttt its night 11:30PM  not morning.. and after norring's intro the quest shows it's day0 rather than day1, and then the only thing I can do is to sleep and then Tolgan came again??

 

So i load again when the first Tolgan debt scene happen but i choose Tolgan only and after that everything normal after this its morning not night unlike previous situation with two his friends... It's annoying tbh 

I got this bug too. I wasn't able to figure out a workaround to get past it. You just can't go through that branch unfortunately, it completely breaks SIlentwood and makes it impossible to progress.

[Mushikisai]

6 hours ago, brewmasterhal said:

 

This is a bug.  No idea how you may have triggered it, but none of that should be possible.

Any idea about how to go through it？

Edited March 20 by Mushikisai

[brewmasterhal]

9 hours ago, thiciathy said:

I got this bug too. I wasn't able to figure out a workaround to get past it. You just can't go through that branch unfortunately, it completely breaks SIlentwood and makes it impossible to progress.

 

9 hours ago, Mushikisai said:

Any idea about how to go through it？

 

The fact that you are both experiencing the same issue makes it very unlikely to be the result of data corruption.  The fact that this issue is new and only two users are experiencing it so far means almost certainly not a scripting error.

Most likely explanation by far is that you have both committed the cardinal sin: you did not start a new game after updating your Thief installation.  Go back and start a fresh new game and try again.  If it happens again, then we have a bigger issue.

[Mushikisai]

3 hours ago, brewmasterhal said:

 

 

The fact that you are both experiencing the same issue makes it very unlikely to be the result of data corruption.  The fact that this issue is new and only two users are experiencing it so far means almost certainly not a scripting error.

Most likely explanation by far is that you have both committed the cardinal sin: you did not start a new game after updating your Thief installation.  Go back and start a fresh new game and try again.  If it happens again, then we have a bigger issue.

Actually, I haven't update the thief🤔 this is my first playthrough with this mod

[Mushikisai]

Should be something wrong when leaving tolgan at night after having sex with both his friends.

I found that bd_hs_sys_day_left still ==0 and time was set to 11:30 pm in the wakeup scene after that,

but typically for a normal wakeup scene, bd_hs_sys_day_left should == 13 for the second day trial and time should be around 6:00 am.

likely meaning the wakeup scene wasn't trigged properly in this specific branch.

Edited March 21 by Mushikisai

[pyoh1350]

On 3/4/2026 at 8:09 AM, pyoh1350 said:

I made new Dogma 1.9.2.3 sound.

and made a backport LE version (I even had to download and install Skyrim LE, which I don’t even play, just for this).

 

You can install it by referring to the existing 1.9.1.5 version installation method. The newly added 1.9.2.3 version should be placed below it in the mod load order. Do not delete the previous version.

 

And please completely remove the previous versions of 'DBVO_Dogma - Thief_1_9_1_5new' and 'PC Head Tracking_Dogma', then freshly install the ones included in version 1.9.2.3.

 

Version 1.9.2.3 is an initial release. I haven’t had a chance to actually play-test it yet, because I had to spend several days working only on the voice files. After properly playing through it and fixing any parts where the sound doesn’t play or feels unnatural, once it’s fully polished, I may re-upload it as a new BSA mod. It might take some time, though...

 

*Add : I have fixed one LE esp file and re-uploaded it. If you previously downloaded the LE version, you only need to download that single ESP file and replace it. From now on, anyone downloading LE version can simply download the main file, 'Dogma Voises_LE .7z'.

 

**Add :  

I have fixed only the main voice files and re-uploaded them. The missing voices and unnatural lines have been fixed and newly remade.  I couldn’t find any way to determine which voice type the old version of Vala used, so I had to redo it several times to find the most similar voice. In the end, however, I ended up remaking all of Vala’s dialogue from scratch. Also, the dice-related parts were mostly reworked using NPC voice types. Reworking only the updated parts is extremely difficult and exhausting.

 

***Add:

Some of the heroine’s monologue lines may not play. To fix this, unpack the file 'Dogma - Thief_Voises8_Heroine.bsa' and rename the 'dft_dummyvoice' folder to the specific voice folder of the character you are playing. After doing this, the voice will play correctly. For example, for a Nord female character, the default voice folder name is 'FemaleEvenToned'. 

However, if you are using the 'PC Head Tracking - MCM' mod, the voice will not play even if you rename it to the specific voice folder of the character you are playing. Therefore, I recommend not using the 'PC Head Tracking - MCM' mod.

Mods like 'Dragonborn Voice Barks' can add new dialogue while keeping the character’s original voice. I may use this mod for future updates.

 

You need to download both of the following files. 'files_V2' and 'files_v4_mainvoicefix'.

files_V2.txt 851 B · 10 downloads

 

files_v4_mainvoicefix.txt 303 B · 6 downloads

I made the final version of the Dogma 1.9.2.3 sound.

I have found and fixed most of the parts where the voice did not play, gathered those files, and compiled them into a BSA file.

 

For those who have already downloaded the previous version, you only need to download 'Dogma - Thief_Voices_1915to1923'. For new users downloading from scratch, please download 'Dogma Thief_Voice_1_9_2_3'.

 

Another change is that the 'FemaleEvenToned' voice has been included in the 'Dogma - Thief_Voices8_Heroine.bsa' file. As a result, some monologue lines should now play correctly when using default races such as Nord, Imperial, and Breton.

However, if you are playing as a different race, you will need to unpack 'Dogma - Thief_Voices8_Heroine.bsa' and rename the 'FemaleEvenToned' folder to match the voice folder of the race you are using.

 

Lastly, the voice work for this version was extremely, extremely difficult. Working on voice files is honestly a crazy task.

 

files_V3.txt

[MorellosWonder]

2 hours ago, pyoh1350 said:

I made the final version of the Dogma 1.9.2.3 sound.

I have found and fixed most of the parts where the voice did not play, gathered those files, and compiled them into a BSA file.

 

For those who have already downloaded the previous version, you only need to download 'Dogma - Thief_Voices_1915to1923'. For new users downloading from scratch, please download 'Dogma Thief_Voice_1_9_2_3'.

 

Another change is that the 'FemaleEvenToned' voice has been included in the 'Dogma - Thief_Voices8_Heroine.bsa' file. As a result, some monologue lines should now play correctly when using default races such as Nord, Imperial, and Breton.

However, if you are playing as a different race, you will need to unpack 'Dogma - Thief_Voices8_Heroine.bsa' and rename the 'FemaleEvenToned' folder to match the voice folder of the race you are using.

 

Lastly, the voice work for this version was extremely, extremely difficult. Working on voice files is honestly a crazy task.

 

files_V3.txt 1.52 kB · 1 download

 

thank you for your hard work!