KoolHndLuke Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 How the hell do multiple choice quizzes and tests challenge any student to actually learn the material? Usually common sense will eliminate one answer, some light studying will usually eliminate another- leaving only a 33-50% chance of getting it wrong. I remember a time when you had to at least fill in the blank or answer the question outright with no hints whatsoever. I'm all for cutting corners wherever I can, but a person's education is not an area where this should apply. If life doesn't give us convenient multiple choice questions- then why do our educators? Link to post
Psalam Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 31 minutes ago, KoolHndLuke said: How the hell do multiple choice quizzes and tests challenge any student to actually learn the material? Usually common sense will eliminate one answer, some light studying will usually eliminate another- leaving only a 33-50% chance of getting it wrong. I remember a time when you had to at least fill in the blank or answer the question outright with no hints whatsoever. I'm all for cutting corners wherever I can, but a person's education is not an area where this should apply. If life doesn't give us convenient multiple choice questions- then why do our educators? Or what about "K-type" questions? You remember those (I certainly do). You know: 1. Blue 2. Red 3. White 4. Green What colors are in the flag of the USA? A. 1,2 and 3 B 1 and 3 C 2 and 4 D 4 only E all of the above 1 Link to post
KoolHndLuke Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 24 minutes ago, Psalam said: Or what about "K-type" questions? You remember those (I certainly do). You know: 1. Blue 2. Red 3. White 4. Green What colors are in the flag of the USA? A. 1,2 and 3 B 1 and 3 C 2 and 4 D 4 only E all of the above What's even more disturbing is that some Americans here would probably get that wrong precisely because of a poor education. 2 Link to post
GimmeBACON Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 2 hours ago, KoolHndLuke said: If life doesn't give us convenient multiple choice questions- then why do our educators? There a government ran institution... they're no longer competent enough (or are willingly refusing) to teach critical thinking. 1 Link to post
Psalam Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 58 minutes ago, GimmeBACON said: There a government ran institution... they're no longer competent enough (or are willingly refusing) to teach critical thinking. No one likes an old man's reminiscences but I'm going to share one anyway. Roughly 50 years ago while attending Public High School in inner city (that is, not the suburbs) Cleveland, Ohio I had the good fortune to take some Honor classes. One of my teachers then was very proud that he felt part of his curriculum was teaching critical thinking to adolescents. He was also wistful that not all teachers had that opportunity. If my experience is anything to go by then, the teaching of critical thinking is not a new absence in American public education, but rather a chronic one. 2 Link to post
Darkpig Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Knowing the colors of a flag isn't terribly useful outside of getting your green card and trivia. Link to post
FauxFurry Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Brain Implants...but should that not be in my mind instead of on it? Anyway, how far can one go with off loading thought processes to a machine before the machine's processors are the only thing thinking (or simulating thought)? Can one undergo such a procedure even once before being considered a new entity (if the mind is given primacy over the body as if it were truly a separate thing to begin with)? Link to post
Darkpig Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 13 hours ago, FauxFurry said: Brain Implants...but should that not be in my mind instead of on it? Anyway, how far can one go with off loading thought processes to a machine before the machine's processors are the only thing thinking (or simulating thought)? Can one undergo such a procedure even once before being considered a new entity (if the mind is given primacy over the body as if it were truly a separate thing to begin with)? To add to this riddle. What if the brain cells inside your brain was their own entity? I mean certain parts of the brain are proven to serve different functions. Link to post
Grey Cloud Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 On 1/18/2021 at 1:55 PM, Darkpig said: *your character is an honorable horrible knight that never uses poison* Problem solved. 1 Link to post
spoonsinger Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said: Problem solved. Reminds me of when I was playing a NW2 Caves Of Chaos module with a Drow Paladin, (really slow leveling that). Towards the end got into a sticky situation, and had to resort to using poison on the sword, Was then somewhat surprised when I couldn't later level up as Paladin. (Surprised the game had implemented that rule, not the fact that it could happen). Anyway continued the rest of her career as a LN favored soul. Link to post
steelpanther24 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 21 hours ago, KoolHndLuke said: How the hell do multiple choice quizzes and tests challenge any student to actually learn the material? Usually common sense will eliminate one answer, some light studying will usually eliminate another- leaving only a 33-50% chance of getting it wrong. I remember a time when you had to at least fill in the blank or answer the question outright with no hints whatsoever. I'm all for cutting corners wherever I can, but a person's education is not an area where this should apply. If life doesn't give us convenient multiple choice questions- then why do our educators? They do not test thinking, they test knowledge retention and/or the ability to recognize the right answer when given. I have said it before (and will do it again) knowledge does not equal intelligence. Knowledge plus intelligence is a big factor of wisdom. As for grading, multiple choice tests are so much easier to grade, so if you are testing a large group, and knowledge is the only thing you are interested in, multiple choice is a good way to go. Especially in cases where it is more important to know that gravity works in this way versus knowing why gravity works in this way. That said, with easy access to the internet, the ability to choose the right answer is a super important skill set. I have seen instructional videos on youtube that are somewhat erroneous and, if followed, will cause more damage to the item you are working on (PS2 "fixes" for example). As for thinking........ I have seen far too many examples of "thinking" adults believing in some things in spite of substantial evidence to the contrary ("The lack of evidence of a grand scheme is evidence of a grand scheme"). 2 Link to post
steelpanther24 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 11 minutes ago, spoonsinger said: Reminds me of when I was playing a NW2 Caves Of Chaos module with a Drow Paladin, (really slow leveling that). Towards the end got into a sticky situation, and had to resort to using poison on the sword, Was then somewhat surprised when I couldn't later level up as Paladin. (Surprised the game had implemented that rule, not the fact that it could happen). Anyway continued the rest of her career as a LN favored soul. Wow, first for a Drow Paladin (heck there is a famous Drow ranger so why not) and second that it had that built in. I never ran into that. Now i will have to dig out those CDs and install that game again. Link to post
B10HAZARD. Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Talent hits a target no one else can hit, Genius hits a target no one else can see. -Arthur Schopenhauer. 2 Link to post
Grey Cloud Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, spoonsinger said: Reminds me of when I was playing a NW2 Caves Of Chaos module with a Drow Paladin, (really slow leveling that). Towards the end got into a sticky situation, and had to resort to using poison on the sword, Was then somewhat surprised when I couldn't later level up as Paladin. (Surprised the game had implemented that rule, not the fact that it could happen). Anyway continued the rest of her career as a LN favored soul. 49 minutes ago, steelpanther24 said: Wow, first for a Drow Paladin (heck there is a famous Drow ranger so why not) and second that it had that built in. I never ran into that. Now i will have to dig out those CDs and install that game again. Was Blackguard an option in NWN2? I can't remember. Paladins have to remain Lawful Good or they lose the ability to progress as Paladins. Link to post
spoonsinger Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: Was Blackguard an option in NWN2? I can't remember. Paladins have to remain Lawful Good or they lose the ability to progress as Paladins. Blackguards are a prestige class and for evil people. Not slightly fallen paladins, (i.,e use of poison shoved them into neutral). Link to post
Grey Cloud Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, spoonsinger said: Blackguards are a prestige class and for evil people. Not slightly fallen paladins, I know but they pan out as a fallen Pally and make a logical choice for such. Link to post
Darkpig Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 8 hours ago, spoonsinger said: Blackguards are a prestige class and for evil people. Not slightly fallen paladins, (i.,e use of poison shoved them into neutral). If you are looking at it from the medieval perspective the use of poison was considered witchcraft. Of course the game is multicultural so there goes that theory. So the question remains what inspired the creator of the game to put it in the neutral category? Link to post
Darkening Demise Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 I cannot keep an erection anymore. I can't get one while standing and barely one while sitting. My drive is all but dead. I'm only 26. I think I may have diabetes without knowing it or something else is wrong. I'm not peeing blood, it doesn't burn when I pee. I do not have trouble seeing, breathing, or anything like that. So no cancer? No diabetes? Maybe heart disease? Link to post
27X Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 On 1/23/2021 at 9:12 AM, KoolHndLuke said: How the hell do multiple choice quizzes and tests challenge any student to actually learn the material? Usually common sense will eliminate one answer, some light studying will usually eliminate another- leaving only a 33-50% chance of getting it wrong. I remember a time when you had to at least fill in the blank or answer the question outright with no hints whatsoever. I'm all for cutting corners wherever I can, but a person's education is not an area where this should apply. If life doesn't give us convenient multiple choice questions- then why do our educators? The Amurkkkan education system is to make factory workers and farmhands that can read and follow instructions, not think critically or question status quo. You want to learn anything now, you got to trade school or you learn on your own. Link to post
Darkpig Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 14 minutes ago, Darkening Demise said: I cannot keep an erection anymore. I can't get one while standing and barely one while sitting. My drive is all but dead. I'm only 26. I think I may have diabetes without knowing it or something else is wrong. I'm not peeing blood, it doesn't burn when I pee. I do not have trouble seeing, breathing, or anything like that. So no cancer? No diabetes? Maybe heart disease? Could also be a neurological problem. Either that or it is a psychological problem but given your active concern over your health I doubt it. Anyway I'm just going by the wiki here so hopefully doctors won't kill me for sending out a fake diagnosis. Speaking of which that does sound like something you should bring up with your doctor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erectile_dysfunction Link to post
steelpanther24 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 12 hours ago, Darkpig said: Could also be a neurological problem. Either that or it is a psychological problem but given your active concern over your health I doubt it. Anyway I'm just going by the wiki here so hopefully doctors won't kill me for sending out a fake diagnosis. Speaking of which that does sound like something you should bring up with your doctor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erectile_dysfunction You could do no worse than Web MD ("its cancer.....and (new for 2020) COVID") Link to post
ToJKa Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Watched Carpenter's The Thing again after a long while. Still a masterfully paranoia inducing movie with amazing special effects for it's time. That alien is really fucking stupid though. If a single cell can infect an entire human, as the movies states, it could have easily taken over the entire crew without anyone realizing something was wrong. Guess that would make it a boring movie, though. But you know, it isn't the monster in that movie that scares me. It's the fact that next year that movie is 40 years old. And i'm one year older than it! 1 Link to post
GimmeBACON Posted January 29 Author Share Posted January 29 Went through the process of getting a two-day fishing license for a weekend vacation, only to check my gear and find my best (most expensive) rods broken... fml I have no recollection of breaking it, or anybody messing with it. 🤔 Link to post
B10HAZARD. Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 This= Am i the only one who has always done this, even before the covid outbreak. Link to post
Mr. Otaku Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I think the beautiful thing about conspiracy theories are that they tug at the back of your head in some way. You could be listening to some of the wackiest shit from the wackiest guys out there but every now and then they say something that lowkey makes you go "wait a second, i've wondered about that too" or "wait, that actually kinda makes sense. The fuck is happening?" and it's just so fascinating. Like these for example: Spoiler These are obviously satire pieces that are very exaggerated but as you keep listening and laughing your brain starts wondering about what's being said. So is it too surprising that many people end up falling to the deep end of conspiracy theories? Are they stupid or just didn't know when they started taking falsehoods at face values merely because they started questioning even the basic logics? Can it be both? Either one? Neither? Then what's going on? Who's putting those antennas in your brain man? Those microchips are coming, they're here!! They'll be reading your thoughts and sell them to the pasta monsters that live on Mars! Elon! What game are you playing??! Tell me the truth NOW!! 1 Link to post
