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I have played v0.1f  but it was frustrating and dull. The clues to direct you to the hunter misdirect you to search the northern coast from the College across the boundary with the pale up to Dawnstar. She isn't in this area, It would be better if the journal entry said she was hunting Horker along Skyrim's northern coastline. This give nice big search area but everyone who looks would eventually find her. I had completed the civil war quest line so the opening quest made no sense and it is just Donkey work anyway. I had not done a lot of fast travelling, I was mostly using Frost to gallop across Skyrim and I was really enjoying it  but this quest sent me right back to fast travel . Also everyone knows where it's going, no need to commit prices to memory.

 

Right so I am now off to find a woodcutter at the nearby sawmill but it's not the nearest sawmill? and when I find the woodcutter......hostile!  because of where the woodcutter is located I don't know if having done the DB quest line had any effect on this but hostile they were. At this point I CTD'd............personally I agree with Prof/Mr Gumby this new opening is not re-playable. It will put me off playing through for a second time. She has to accompany you and you need to get to know each other through dialogue/choices whilst you are travelling together this will enable the PC to become invested in the storyline. 

 

Oh and you could also add a hat..yes a hat. A beast taming hat. A hat that says beast tamer on it. You can get them at Harrods. And it lights up saying "beast tamer" in great big neon letters, so you can tame them after dark when they're less stroppy.

 

First off, he said this was built upon the fact you HAVE NOT done the Civil War quest lines within Skyrim.  If you are loading this onto a save with that done, don't expect much " fixes " for you at this moment, probably get something fixed later on once mod is fully up and running.

In my case Anuriel is not a steward she's a hostage in Palace of The kings in Windhelm, Maven is the Jarl and her son Hemming is the steward....

Skald the Elder is also in Palace of The kings in Windhelm.

 

I might be wrong but Thaena has a strong resemblance to (vanila) Lydia now...

 

Again, try this on a save BEFORE Civil War quest line has been done.  That or load a new game just to try this one out. 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes I am aware of this and had no choice, all my old saves have the C.W. quests complete. I am saying without Thaina tagging along and some story involving Thaina and Pc getting to know each other and becoming friends this trip around Skyrim is like sitting through hours of that awful Titanic movie. You know how it ends........it sinks!!. I am more concerned by the fact the woodcutter was hostile and prevented me getting any further along.

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@TheFedaykin

 

1st. the npc in question is not aggressive by default.

If the npc is aggressive to you, then you have either done something to the npc

or a mod is messing with the npc that you are running.

 

2nd. If you think this mod is like the titanic and will sink

then grab your life preserver and and jump of the ship.

 

3rd.  do you have to have such massive quote's?

can't you hide them in a spoiler or something?

 

Regards

Jmathers

 

 

 

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@TheFedaykin

 

1st. the npc in question is not aggressive by default.

If the npc is aggressive to you, then you have either done something to the npc

or a mod is messing with the npc that you are running.

 

2nd. If you think this mod is like the titanic and will sink

then grab your life preserver and and jump of the ship.

 

3rd.  do you have to have such massive quote's?

can't you hide them in a spoiler or something?

 

Regards

Jmathers

 

I didn't think she was aggressive by default. I was wondering if killing Hern here in the DB questline was responsible. I was trying to say that travelling the length and breadth of Skyrim to gather quotes for plots of land without building a relationship with Thaina as you travel does not seem to me to bring anything to the original mod.

 

The Titanic reference was I think you'll find a reference to the movie not the ship. A long long long story until you eventually get to the meat of the matter the ending everyone already knows. Anyway it was only a joke, shoulda used one of these :lol:  

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I didn't think she was aggressive by default. I was wondering if killing Hern here in the DB questline was responsible.

 

Which NPC are you trying to talk to? Is it Hert the female vampire? If so, that's the wrong NPC. The one you want is a custom female NPC standing near the house wearing leather armor (iirc).

 

Edit: But if you are talking to the right one, you can try stopcombat in the console and see if she'll talk to you then.

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I didn't think she was aggressive by default. I was wondering if killing Hern here in the DB questline was responsible.

 

Which NPC are you trying to talk to? Is it Hert the female vampire? If so, that's the wrong NPC. The one you want is a custom female NPC standing near the house wearing leather armor (iirc).

 

Edit: But if you are talking to the right one, you can try stopcombat in the console and see if she'll talk to you then.

 

 

 

 

No not Hert ....something Sky-Wing I think.......I have killed Hern from distance with a bow but left Hert alive during the DB quests. I think this may be the reason because it's the only thing I have done at this mill but it could also be Captured dreams shop nearby.  Anyway I'll try again on a new game.

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It's the first time here that I see an overtaken mod made worse, not better. Why so boring and tedious? Was this intentional?

Actually,  come to think of it... That profile picture and ----- Information ----- ... Are you a troll of sorts?

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Damn guys. Just give him some time to finish his ideas. you cant judge a mod that is just for some weeks/months in work. Try to create a mod like this yourself and you'll see how hard it can be.

Just stay patient and everyone can enjoy the finished mod

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Can i make a suggestion? How about adding a line at the top of the OP explaining that:

 

- The mod is under construction and testers should check current status before posting, as it will end suddenly.

 

LIke the way you're taking the mod. Continue at your pace and I look forward to testing once i reabuild my skyrim setup.

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It's the first time here that I see an overtaken mod made worse, not better. Why so boring and tedious? Was this intentional?

Actually,  come to think of it... That profile picture and ----- Information ----- ... Are you a troll of sorts?

 

 

I thought that was a given with the version number being

 

   0.1f     < alpha

 

0.5 < Beta

1.0 < Retail version (finished)

 

 

edit: it does actually say ALPHA. on the OP.

EDIT: there, i changed the OP just for you, understand now??

 

 

:edit.

 

I have a PEERRFECT IDEA, for the Story line..  

 

just for Mastodon!

 

making a Mandatory quest where the game keeps spawning INFINATE TROLLS, EVERYWHERE!!!

and you have to kill them all.

and when the quest is running. I'm gonna make and audio file screaming "I'm watching gay porn and like to get on people's nerve" also in an Infinate loop!

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After the content and tone of the last few posts I feel I should say. If I appeared to be having a go at you Jmathers....I am sorry I am not and I appreciate your efforts. I was only relating my experiences with the first few events and making suggestions like changing the description of the search area to find the hunter, to "hunting horker on northern coastline of Skyrim" so as to stop people coming here saying I have looked everywhere and can't find her.

 

And it would be nice in my opinion to have formed a friendship with Thaina before she asks you to 

suck her dog off. :lol:

 And the trip around Skyrim seems a perfect opportunity.

 

Anyway I apologize again and thanks for your hard work.

 

 

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It's the first time here that I see an overtaken mod made worse, not better. Why so boring and tedious? Was this intentional?

 

Actually,  come to think of it... That profile picture and ----- Information ----- ... Are you a troll of sorts?

 

 

I thought that was a given with the version number being

 

   0.1f     < alpha

 

0.5 < Beta

1.0 < Retail version (finished)

 

 

edit: it does actually say ALPHA. on the OP.

EDIT: there, i changed the OP just for you, understand now??

 

 

:edit.

 

I have a PEERRFECT IDEA, for the Story line..  

 

just for Mastodon!

 

making a Mandatory quest where the game keeps spawning INFINATE TROLLS, EVERYWHERE!!!

and you have to kill them all.

and when the quest is running. I'm gonna make and audio file screaming "I'm watching gay porn and like to get on people's nerve" also in an Infinate loop!

 

Or add a quest where you have to fuck 100 different creatures. Thats time consuming enough I think xD

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After the content and tone of the last few posts I feel I should say. If I appeared to be having a go at you Jmathers....I am sorry I am not and I appreciate your efforts. I was only relating my experiences with the first few events and making suggestions like changing the description of the search area to find the hunter, to "hunting horker on northern coastline of Skyrim" so as to stop people coming here saying I have looked everywhere and can't find her.

 

And it would be nice in my opinion to have formed a friendship with Thaina before she asks you to 

suck her dog off. :lol:

 And the trip around Skyrim seems a perfect opportunity.

 

Anyway I apologize again and thanks for your hard work.

 

I am not even at that stage yet.

 

please be paticent and see what comes / who cums next.

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I had issues finding the hunter "weather and nearby obstructions causing it" but as for the mod,I am enjoying this new take onto the mansion,I look forward to the new stories,quests and maybe even added creatures...well done,Jmathers.

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Well, that wasn't psychotic. That wasn't psychotic at all. At least, that's what I keep telling myself.
You could've at least said "No, I'm not a troll. What made you come to that conclusion?" or something.

Instead? A BLOODY MASSIVE Ad Hominem. Wow.

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Guest squid0767

 

 

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Well, that wasn't psychotic. That wasn't psychotic at all. At least, that's what I keep telling myself.

You could've at least said "No, I'm not a troll. What made you come to that conclusion?" or something.

 

Instead? A BLOODY MASSIVE Ad Hominem. Wow.

 

 

 

I normally ignore these kinds of topics, as they're nothing if not inflammatory, but I felt I needed to say a quick word here. First off Mastodon, I totally understand your logic - when I first noticed JMathers' profile pic, etc, and thought, "is this a legitimate account?" If he’d been illegitimate, this would have been rectified a long time ago by the moderators, is the conclusion I came to.

 

I also agree with how you feel about the tediousness of the mod. But I chose to take the time and see it from *his* point of view; too many of the old quests were just "go here, do that, follow this quest marker." (and not just for this mod, but quests in general). This person obviously wanted a little more challenge, and I decided to try seeing things from his perspective. What I found was interesting: I'd come across things I hadn't noticed before in Skyrim, and that actually enriched my experience of the game overall (even IF the mod itself WAS frustrating at times).

 

The only thing I have to add to your “Ad Hominem” comment is simply this: recall what your initially said, “Are you a troll…?” May I make a statement? It is very possible that this person took that as an Ad Hominem, thus garnering the response you received. Please understand I am trying to be as respectful as I possibly can (it’s taken me nearly 20 minutes to type this!), and you MAY have just given Jmathers the [final] reason for abandoning the work on the mod (or at least sharing his efforts). Please, friend, think about that. I would take up the mantle on this, but I have no knowledge or experience with the CK. If you do, and you’re this strongly displeased with the mod, the next step would be logical. Anyway, thank you for taking the time to read this; that’s my $0.02.

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At the end of the day, It's all fine and dandy adding tons and tons of content to a mod, but what good is that content if an avalanche of bugs prevents you from seeing it?  

 

It's like driving a car with an electrical fault. it can spring up on you without warning and ruin what could have been a smooth ride.  

 

And I just wish people would have a bit of patience.  There are IMO too many mods around that say "Go here, screw that," So something that rewards a player for making an effort is very refreshing.

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The issue is that the mod is moving slowly yeah be though to find issues but whe an issue is reported like the issue with the hiring of the lumber mill person fix ASAP. Content is fine by me refreashing really but progress also.

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At the end of the day, It's all fine and dandy adding tons and tons of content to a mod, but what good is that content if an avalanche of bugs prevents you from seeing it?  

 

It's like driving a car with an electrical fault. it can spring up on you without warning and ruin what could have been a smooth ride.  

 

And I just wish people would have a bit of patience.  There are IMO too many mods around that say "Go here, screw that," So something that rewards a player for making an effort is very refreshing.

 

 

@bogbrush I have to agree about the different approach that this mod is taking. It is refreshing to see some background and non cookie cutter methods being used.

 

 

your both right there. 

I too am annoying with "go here. screw x,y, and z get 1,000 gold" rubbish, so yeah. I am reworking alot of the quests and  working on improving the immersion

alot, as per OP and I love it because it gives me a chance of being evil abit.

that being said, I love being evil but well I digress..

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The issue is that the mod is moving slowly yeah be though to find issues but whe an issue is reported like the issue with the hiring of the lumber mill person fix ASAP. Content is fine by me refreashing really but progress also.

 

 

yes progress is slow, your correct and unfortunatly I can only ask you to be paticent, as I am trying to bring the same level of Immersion for all players, even those who don't have hearthfire, I could just do DLC requirements all the way but that wouldn't be fair to any one who doesn't have it.

 

so I'm trying to keep the mod DLC free, unfortunatly this means more work for me.

and alot of reasearch on how to construct a decent UI for non hearthfire people.

 

I'm trying to move the Mod out of a teadious rinse and repeat classification

and add more decent and interactive play with options of rinse n repeat should the player want it.

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Hey man i absolutely loved The Animal Mansion and i am really excited to see what this mod offers but you see currently i am tied by a really busy schedule so i only get around 1 hour of playtime...and call me stupid but,i have been stuck on the start when you find the hunter i have played for about 4-5 days now and i understand you want this to be fun for us all but i have become pretty tired of finding her and i would love for you to spoil her location for me ..pretty please? xP (And sorry for my mistakes in english not my native language :D)

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The issue is that the mod is moving slowly yeah be though to find issues but whe an issue is reported like the issue with the hiring of the lumber mill person fix ASAP. Content is fine by me refreashing really but progress also.

 

 

yes progress is slow, your correct and unfortunatly I can only ask you to be paticent, as I am trying to bring the same level of Immersion for all players, even those who don't have hearthfire, I could just do DLC requirements all the way but that wouldn't be fair to any one who doesn't have it.

 

so I'm trying to keep the mod DLC free, unfortunatly this means more work for me.

and alot of reasearch on how to construct a decent UI for non hearthfire people.

 

I'm trying to move the Mod out of a teadious rinse and repeat classification

and add more decent and interactive play with options of rinse n repeat should the player want it.

 

 

trie but still focus on one then the other makes work go faster and if you want to build a house of anykind in the game unless already made it requires hearthfire no way getting around it for now that I now of.

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