Prison Overhaul Patched (LE)

[prologue1337]

I'm having the following most bugging issue, that keep repeating itself:

1. I get arrested.
2. I arrive at the jail.
3. I'm in my cell.
4. Jailer want's me to follow him, but in this time a event trigger a punish animation at the same time.
5. Event want's to follow jailer during this animation and the animation gets interrupted and character and jailer moves while still being in the punish animation.
6. When the punishing timer runs out the jailer waits outside and I teleport with him.
7. Now we're stuck and nothing happens.

It's a shame since this does n't happen only once but it happens anytime resulting in when I'm not able to reset reload a save... and then rinse and repeat the issue described above.

 

Any solutions to this issue? It looks like this happens only when 2 events happen on the same time or within ones timeframe (like 3 seconds in punishment event and the next event triggers will also get you stuck).

 

This all is on a clean save, clean Skyrim LE install with only a few mods installed (SkyUI, Racemenu, High poly headmesh, UNP body, SOS, True:9 widescreen, and of course the requirements in order to run this very mod).

 

No DDe installed, is this really necessary? 

[Neydzz]

6 hours ago, prologue1337 said:

Thanks for the guide, sadly it has other compatibility issues with other mods so I try it on Skyrim LE anyway

May I ask what compatibility issues you're talking about? I'm running version 360 on Skyrim SE with 943 other mods installed, and it's working perfectly.

[Starfire12]

I'm looking for an immersive way to trigger the mod. My Dragonborn is quite good at sneaking and lockpicking and I refuse to fail on purpose, so most thievery isn't really a risk. And beyond the Dark Brotherhood radiant quests, which ideally are also done with a minimum footprint, there's not really an in-game reason to ever attack civilians let alone guard.

And mods to get my Dragonborn in trouble with the law in a "realistic" way?

[prologue1337]

32 minutes ago, Neydzz said:

7 hours ago, prologue1337 said:

Thanks for the guide, sadly it has other compatibility issues with other mods so I try it on Skyrim LE anyway

May I ask what compatibility issues you're talking about? I'm running version 360 on Skyrim SE with 943 other mods installed, and it's working perfectly.

On SE the following seems to be conflicting (the mod works but towns get empty and such)

• JK Skyrim, getting stuck behind trees and extra buildings.
• Distinctive interiors lots of clipping and getting stuck.
• Open Cities, this causes empty cities during prison time.
• Then some interruptions SLHH, Sexlab approach redux and SL defeat these all make the events go stuck on doing different animations of what should be going on.

[PubliusNV]

1 hour ago, Starfire12 said:

And mods to get my Dragonborn in trouble with the law in a "realistic" way?

Maybe not what you're looking for, but in the mod Angrim's Apprentice, Angrim puts a bounty on the PC to punish her, and that can trigger this mod.

[Neydzz]

3 hours ago, prologue1337 said:

On SE the following seems to be conflicting (the mod works but towns get empty and such)

• JK Skyrim, getting stuck behind trees and extra buildings.
• Distinctive interiors lots of clipping and getting stuck.
• Open Cities, this causes empty cities during prison time.
• Then some interruptions SLHH, Sexlab approach redux and SL defeat these all make the events go stuck on doing different animations of what should be going on.

Ah right. Yeah I'm running Dawn of Skyrim instead of JK's and I've had to remove some things through the console that were in the way of the pillories. Probably the best solution we have for that problem.

I have not tried with Open Cities but I imagine PoP will still use the normal city worldspace, and since Open Cities moves everything from it into the Tamriel worldspace the city will be empty. I used to have Open Cities but removed it because of incompatibilities with quite a few loverslab mods.

I am using Defeat and it has worked ok. I have it set to only knock me down when my health hits 0, but I imagine if you use the on-hit chances to get knocked down you might trigger Defeat from being whipped or similar in this mod. For mods like SLHH and Approach, I think the only way to make it compatible is to make PoP turn those other mods off when it's active, which I don't think will happen unfortunately. Best solution might be to manually turn those mods off when you get arrested.

[Neydzz]

4 hours ago, Starfire12 said:

I'm looking for an immersive way to trigger the mod. My Dragonborn is quite good at sneaking and lockpicking and I refuse to fail on purpose, so most thievery isn't really a risk. And beyond the Dark Brotherhood radiant quests, which ideally are also done with a minimum footprint, there's not really an in-game reason to ever attack civilians let alone guard.

And mods to get my Dragonborn in trouble with the law in a "realistic" way?

You might want to check out Sexlab Survival and/or Sexlab Body Search. I haven't tried them with PoP myself but they both have ways of getting arrested and I don't see why they would be incompatible. Sexlab Adventures also has ways of getting arrested, might not be compatible with SL Survival though.

[prologue1337]

2 hours ago, Neydzz said:

Ah right. Yeah I'm running Dawn of Skyrim instead of JK's and I've had to remove some things through the console that were in the way of the pillories. Probably the best solution we have for that problem.

I have not tried with Open Cities but I imagine PoP will still use the normal city worldspace, and since Open Cities moves everything from it into the Tamriel worldspace the city will be empty. I used to have Open Cities but removed it because of incompatibilities with quite a few loverslab mods.

I am using Defeat and it has worked ok. I have it set to only knock me down when my health hits 0, but I imagine if you use the on-hit chances to get knocked down you might trigger Defeat from being whipped or similar in this mod. For mods like SLHH and Approach, I think the only way to make it compatible is to make PoP turn those other mods off when it's active, which I don't think will happen unfortunately. Best solution might be to manually turn those mods off when you get arrested.

On SE I tryed without Open Cities (and fast foward selection, this seem to work since it teleports you to the location instead of walking or running, no biggy for me sinde the walk takes ages and I prefer to skip that xD) and it seem to work, but now Im testing and it looks like not even 1 npc in intrested in punishing me while in a pilory. Also the ZapDoggy01 seems to be broken.

 

I disabled override on ZAP since it overrides all other animation I got loaded in SL.

 

The pilory works in LE but does n't seem to work in SE (I can't get it to work porperly on LE so Im back to testing SE for now).

EDIT: about pillory in my last sentence, punishment only happens on mayor crimes, edit the mayor crime threshhold to lower values

[prologue1337]

Odd, I got version 44(X) POP running on Skyrim SE and it works 90% of the time now (without: "Open cities", with: JK Skyrim and fast forward toggle on):

• Few times I CTD, but this seems like a limitation on scripts because it does n't crash on the same event.
• Need to force AI few times mostly at the cage, I can live with this.
• In Whiterun I always have the issue with the jailer punishing me and wanting me to follow him at the same time (when placed in the cell for the first time), the duration of the punishment is like 3-4 seconds (that's to short since it gets interrupted by the follow jailer trigger). Toggle off the animation override in ZAZ seems at least to finishing the punish animation scene, after the scene you'll get stuck with the jailer and rubberband back to him, this is the moment you force AI. Then you'll be taken to the whipping, pillory or cage, because of the reset I teleport back to jail and then run to the "the whipping, pillory or cage". Its not that bad I can live with this.

Is there a way to make the POPUP for SUM stop "compatibility warning about Sexlab Framework 1.63 being higher than 1.62"? Any time I load a save I get this message (I can confirm it IS compatible).

 

The same issues as described above I have on Skyrim LE, I stopped trying since a clean LE seems to be more buggy for me than fully modded SE is LOL.

 

@Inte Thanks for the great mod it is very fun to play! I really hope you'll make this mod more accessible for SE users one day

@Community always thanks for the help and replies we get!

[Inte]

On 9/30/2020 at 6:14 PM, Vanderslaxx said:

My CTDs occur when being escorted to prison, during the loading to what I assume to be the final destination.

Can you enter your final destination while not under arrest? (with POP/SUM installed) 

[Inte]

On 10/6/2020 at 7:54 AM, Syntonic said:

USCP adds fire damage triggers to fires/fireplaces in cities and interior cells. I got insta-killed during the cage event in Jorrvaskr. Had to remove the fire trigger with TES5Edit and now it works as it should. Unless dying immediately upon entering is the intended function? And that's only Whiterun. Might be more places where it can break things.

Oh no, the fireplace was meant as punishment not an execution. 

 

On 10/6/2020 at 7:54 AM, Syntonic said:

Another problem I've always had with Cage events and using Tags for SL scenes: as soon as the SL scene starts POP considers the punishment ended (even if the SL scene is still in progress) and it will break things. However, both Whipping and Bound punishments works as they should. Any solution to this, except for disabling Tags punishments?

Are you waiting, sleeping when this happens? 

Try resetting your SL animation registry.  

[Inte]

On 10/8/2020 at 7:37 AM, saltshade said:

Also, why am I getting equipped with a muzzle when I'm playing a Breton from Charmers of the Reach?

That a fallback mechanism when the race is not recognized. 

[Inte]

On 11/2/2020 at 3:23 AM, Thingolf said:

Is this compativle with zaz v8? As far as I understand the v8 includes all that v7 had, so there sould not be any problems, right?

ZAP 8 is what I use. 

[Inte]

On 11/4/2020 at 10:28 AM, prologue1337 said:

Jailer want's me to follow him, but in this time a event trigger a punish animation at the same time.

Were you waiting or sleeping before this happened?

Is it a POP punishment? 

 

On 11/4/2020 at 10:28 AM, prologue1337 said:

Any solutions to this issue? It looks like this happens only when 2 events happen on the same time or within ones timeframe (like 3 seconds in punishment event and the next event triggers will also get you stuck).

Try resetting your SL animation registry. 

 

[Inte]

On 11/4/2020 at 10:28 AM, prologue1337 said:

No DDe installed, is this really necessary? 

No, but if you install it, does POP work better? 

[Inte]

On 11/5/2020 at 4:59 AM, prologue1337 said:

Is there a way to make the POPUP for SUM stop "compatibility warning about Sexlab Framework 1.63 being higher than 1.62"? Any time I load a save I get this message (I can confirm it IS compatible).

 

[prologue1337]

13 hours ago, Inte said:

Were you waiting or sleeping before this happened?

Is it a POP punishment? 

Yeah to be more specific:

1. I get arrested
2. Placed in jail
3. Then the door closes
4. Jailer tells me to get down
5. Jailer walks to me
6. Punishing start
7. Console tells me it ended in like 3 seconds
8. Still in the punish animation
9. Jailer tells me to follow him
10. Still in the punishment animation
11. Characters begin to asct wierd on animations and are not aligned anymore
12. Animation has ended
13. We are outside the jail
14. And we stay there
15. Force AI will continue
16. We teleport to a pilory (or whipping or w/e)
17. I teleport back to jail
18. Walks back to the pilory (or whipping or w/e) or I can teleport back to the jailer via mcm (safest way)

To be clear this happens on SE but also on my LE install seems like this doesn't make any difference

13 hours ago, Inte said:

Try resetting your SL animation registry. 

I already did that, but will try it again

13 hours ago, Inte said:

No, but if you install it, does POP work better? 

I have n't noticed any difference, don't think it matters then

 

Thanks for the link! and ofcource your time!

[GingerJay]

Why is this mod not appearing on the MCM list at all in game? Yet it seems to partially work cause SUM does appear and shows the mod installed? I've already tried all of the LOs possible and even disabled some of my mods but it's just not appearing in-game.

[prologue1337]

8 hours ago, GingerJay said:

Why is this mod not appearing on the MCM list at all in game? Yet it seems to partially work cause SUM does appear and shows the mod installed? I've already tried all of the LOs possible and even disabled some of my mods but it's just not appearing in-game.

Have you tryed a new game?

[GingerJay]

12 hours ago, prologue1337 said:

Have you tryed a new game?

Yes I have, should've mentioned that as well. Maybe the installation was corrupted or something?

[prologue1337]

On 11/10/2020 at 10:49 PM, GingerJay said:

Yes I have, should've mentioned that as well. Maybe the installation was corrupted or something?

Right, well the mcm is sometimes very slow and wil not show up in time for some reason.

 

Try this command line into your console:

setstage SKI_ConfigManagerInstance 1

If that doesn't work sometimes playing the game for like an hour fixes the issue automatically (use fast travel from one to another location).

 

The above solutions worked for me all the time, if it doesn't for you I'm clueless  and I'm sorry I couldn't have been of much more help.

[missqueenie]

Good evening, is there any way to make the Jail Master always male? I can see restrictions for male or female on every other part of this except the jail master.

 

Cheers

[Inte]

15 hours ago, missqueenie said:

Good evening, is there any way to make the Jail Master always male? I can see restrictions for male or female on every other part of this except the jail master.

 

Cheers

It's in the MCM. 

[GingerJay]

On 11/12/2020 at 4:08 PM, prologue1337 said:

Right, well the mcm is sometimes very slow and wil not show up in time for some reason.

 

Try this command line into your console:

setstage SKI_ConfigManagerInstance 1

If that doesn't work sometimes playing the game for like an hour fixes the issue automatically (use fast travel from one to another location).

 

The above solutions worked for me all the time, if it doesn't for you I'm clueless  and I'm sorry I couldn't have been of much more help.

I forgot to mention earlier but got it working by just playing the game for a bit as you suggested! Thanks for the help.

[Bondage Queen Slaveia]

On 10/22/2020 at 10:37 AM, Neydzz said:

I'm currently running version 360 of this mod (which is the last version that doesn't require Skyrim Utility Mod), and so far it seems to be working though I've just begun testing. The latest version of PoP gave me consistent CTD whenever I got arrested and reached the Dragonsreach Dungeon.

 

If you'd like to try it yourself do the following:

 

TLDR: Use version 360 of PoP and optimize the meshes.

 

Extended explanation:

1. Download Prison Overhaul Patched version 360.

2. Extract PoP from the zip to a folder (not into your game yet).

3. Download SSE NIF Optimizer. 

4. Open the .exe file from SSE NIF Optimizer.

5. Click Browse and select the folder where you extracted PoP to in Step 2.

6. Make sure Sub Directories and Head Parts Only is selected and leave everything else as it is.

7. Click Optimize. It shouldn't take very long to do, mine takes about half a second but it may vary.

8. When it says Ready! at the bottom again it's all done. If you want to double check you can look at the files in the meshes folder of PoP and Date Modified should have changed to the time you clicked Optimize.

9. Install the mod the way you prefer (either manually by dragging all the files and folders from the mod to your Data folder, or zip the files back up and install with a mod manager).

 

Again, I haven't tested it too much. The mod wasn't made for SE so there might still be bugs. Version 360 of the mod is however working a lot better for me on SE than the most recent.

I did this and it seemed to work at first. The problem is that once the guard has arrested the dragonborn and placed her in a kneeling position, he just freezes and nothing happens. It stays like that perpetually, regardless of any kind of debug or teleport shenanigans I try. If I have a follower, they'll get arrested as well before the freezing happens. Is this maybe a compatibility thing or? Have you had this issue?