Deviously Cursed Loot LE 9.0 (2021-03-09)

[Zaflis]

On 11/24/2020 at 10:46 PM, Ictuss said:

...Cursed Loot is working fine for the most part, except in every scenario it's applying full sets as if I had always force full set enabled despite having "Minimum and maximum number of items per container" set to 1 and 2 respectively.

 

 

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Based on these settings you have already set them correctly. Most important part is that 101 set to "arousal threshold to force full set". So all i can think of is some bug; maybe take a papyrus log from right after you get a trap and you get full set when you didn't expect it to.

 

Papyrus might reveal your save to be otherwise broken so that unpredictable things can happen for any script, not just to Cursed Loot.

[gr4ssi]

@Kimy I found a small typo: The dollmaker, when I first meet her with Chloe, says "if course" instead of "of course". That is, when I ask her what she wants me to do, since I'm her slave now... I remember that quest differently in 8.5 ?

Cheers

[gr4ssi]

@Kimy When I do delivery work in Windhelm, after the stables, the inn in Windhelm has no quest marker, and the lady behind the counter doesn't either. She goes "Look what we have here", so I guess I found the right spot for the delivery, but a marker would be good, I guess.

Cheers!

[gr4ssi]

 @Kimy In the middle of the delivery quest, a wench put me into "A little bondage Adventure", which doesn't seem so little, considering the dollmaker heavy dress my heroine is wearing. I don't know if that's supposed to be so?

[senshou26]

12 hours ago, gr4ssi said:

I found something which was a bit... weird?

In the Hall of the Dead, with Chloe and Nazeem, I get the high security stuff on me and Chloe from Nazeem, and he disappears. (The Chloe's stolen stuff retrieval quest.) If I now try and walk, it doesn't work. First, I thought, I was too heavily loaded.

But no, I had to go to first person mode to be able to move again, like with that one blindfold mode. Is that normal? It got fixed when I left the Hallo of the Dead.

 

I've generally found, through a couple iterations of this quest, that the movement speed that results from this combo is low enough that my character sometimes has a hard time overcoming inertia, and gets stuck momentarily. Just mashing WASD (or whatever the movement keys are set as) has always gotten my character moving again though.

[Zaflis]

Having just finished Cursed Collar, it seems to be the last part of quests so far? (having used console command to continue to the whip and chain inn part earlier)

 

In the whip and chain inn, talking to Tamara puts on a full set which is made of 1 device "Extreme Bondage Dress". It includes gag visually but it keeps mouth closed. My guess is some missing keyword.

[kaldwin]

@Ictuss what level are you? I had a similar problem where generic restraints weren't applied properly.  It turned out that kimy had hard coded a "mercy feature" that prevented too many punishing restraints before a certain level (3 I think. don't remember).  she did this so players had a chance to finish the chloe quest line without too many restraint inconveniences. She never formally announced it, but it was in change log that no one (including me) reads.  also, I think it was replaced with the "merciful dungeons" option in 9.0.  type "player.setlevel 10" into the console to change your level to 10 and test the restraint events again

[Zaflis]

And i got stuck in the prison it seems, i had dinner event happen twice in a row. Item collection and objectives are not reset, besides it doesn't make sense to eat again.

 

From the looks of it (not checked script), if i keep loading game to before talking to foreman he will always assign the food as second task. It seems the order is randomized somewhere perhaps at beginning of the day, so i'm not exactly sure how to even forcefully fix this. Might still have some autosave from sleeping, but don't know how far back i would need.

[Ictuss]

1 hour ago, kaldwin said:

@Ictuss what level are you? I had a similar problem where generic restraints weren't applied properly.  It turned out that kimy had hard coded a "mercy feature" that prevented too many punishing restraints before a certain level (3 I think. don't remember).  she did this so players had a chance to finish the chloe quest line without too many restraint inconveniences. She never formally announced it, but it was in change log that no one (including me) reads.  also, I think it was replaced with the "merciful dungeons" option in 9.0.  type "player.setlevel 10" into the console to change your level to 10 and test the restraint events again

Thanks for the suggestion. I wanted to give this a try but before I did I uninstalled all my mods, obtained a fresh vanilla version of Skyrim and only installed the mods the DCL has dependencies on (ie. SkyUI, FNIS, DD, ZAZ, Etc.)

I went with alternative start, set my player level to 10, fiddled with DCL so only standard events would happen, set chance to 100%, set max restraints to 2 and looted a skeleton and a drawer. This initiated the cursed loot event and forced 6 pieces of restraint on me.

 

I'm kind of at a loss at this point, my only theory is that I might not have the correct version of mods or something

[Ictuss]

4 hours ago, Zaflis said:

Based on these settings you have already set them correctly. Most important part is that 101 set to "arousal threshold to force full set". So all i can think of is some bug; maybe take a papyrus log from right after you get a trap and you get full set when you didn't expect it to.

 

Papyrus might reveal your save to be otherwise broken so that unpredictable things can happen for any script, not just to Cursed Loot.

I did what you suggested and logged what happened when I had an event start, I'm not sure what to make of it but here's the Papyrus log starting from looting the dead body

 

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[11/25/2020 - 10:02:42PM] [DCUR] Looted a dead body.
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:42PM] [DCUR] Checking for Cursed Loot event.
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:42PM] [DFW] Update Event: 71.261002
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:42PM] [DFW] Update Done: 71.341003
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:43PM] [DCUR] Calculated chance for cursed loot = 60.250000%
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:46PM] [DFW] Update Event: 74.397003
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:46PM] [DFW] Cleaning Nearby: 74.477005
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:46PM] [DFW] Cleaning Nearby Done: 74.509003
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:46PM] [DFW] Update Done: 74.525002
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:47PM] [DFW] Update Event: 76.045006
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:47PM] [DFW] Update Done: 76.109001
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:48PM] [DFW] Update Event: 77.149002
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:49PM] [DFW] Update Done: 77.213005
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:50PM] [DFW] Update Event: 78.253006
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:50PM] [DFW] Cleaning Nearby: 78.333000
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:50PM] [DFW] Cleaning Nearby Done: 78.365005
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:50PM] [DFW] Update Done: 78.381004
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:51PM] [DFW] Update Event: 79.421005
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:51PM] [DFW] Update Done: 79.501007
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:52PM] [DFW] Update Event: 80.541000
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:52PM] [DFW] Update Done: 80.621002
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:53PM] [Zad]: OnContainerChanged()
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:53PM] [DFW] Equip Event: 81.293007
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:53PM] error: Unbound native function "FormHasKeywordString" called
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:53PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp7"
stack:
    [alias PlayerRef on quest zadDevicesUnderneathQuest (09041472)].zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.Logic() - "zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.psc" Line 17
    [alias PlayerRef on quest zadDevicesUnderneathQuest (09041472)].zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.OnObjectEquipped() - "zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.psc" Line 48
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:53PM] [Zad]: OnContainerChanged()
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:53PM] [Zad]: OnEquipped(Prisoner: Plug (Inflatable) (Vaginal))
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:53PM] [DFW] Equip Done:  81.405006
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:53PM] [Zad]: No menus are open. Equipping silently.
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:53PM] [DFW] Equip Event: 81.485001
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:53PM] [Zad]: OnEquipped(Prisoner: Iron Pear of Anguish (Bell) (Anal))
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:53PM] error: Unbound native function "FormHasKeywordString" called
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:53PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp7"
stack:
    [alias PlayerRef on quest zadDevicesUnderneathQuest (09041472)].zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.Logic() - "zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.psc" Line 17
    [alias PlayerRef on quest zadDevicesUnderneathQuest (09041472)].zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.OnObjectEquipped() - "zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.psc" Line 48
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:53PM] [Zad]: No menus are open. Equipping silently.
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:53PM] [DFW] Equip Done:  81.597000
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:53PM] [DCUR] Scanning for followers
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:53PM] [Zad]: OnContainerChanged()
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:53PM] [DFW] Update Event: 81.661003
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:53PM] [DFW] Checking Collared
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:53PM] [Zad]: Sending device event DeviceEquippedPumps(Prisoner:1)
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:53PM] [DFW] Checking Arms Locked
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:53PM] error: Unbound native function "FormHasKeywordString" called
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:53PM] [Zad]: OnEffectStart(): Inflatable Plugs
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:53PM] [DFW] Checking Gagged
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:53PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp7"
stack:
    [alias PlayerRef on quest zadDevicesUnderneathQuest (09041472)].zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.Logic() - "zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.psc" Line 17
    [alias PlayerRef on quest zadDevicesUnderneathQuest (09041472)].zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.OnObjectEquipped() - "zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.psc" Line 48
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:53PM] [Zad]: OnEffectStart(): Belly
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:53PM] [DFW] Equip Event: 81.821007
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:53PM] [Zad]: OnEquipped(Prisoner: Steel Chastity Belt (Padded))
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:53PM] [Zad]: No menus are open. Equipping silently.
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:53PM] [DFW] Equip Done:  81.933006
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:53PM] [DFW] Equip Event: 81.805000
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:53PM] error: Unbound native function "FormHasKeywordString" called
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:53PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp7"
stack:
    [alias PlayerRef on quest zadDevicesUnderneathQuest (09041472)].zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.Logic() - "zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.psc" Line 17
    [alias PlayerRef on quest zadDevicesUnderneathQuest (09041472)].zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.OnObjectEquipped() - "zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.psc" Line 48
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:54PM] [DFW] Equip Done (None): 82.061005
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:54PM] [Zad]: SyncInventory(): Equipping Pumps.
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:54PM] [DFW] Checking Hobbled
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:54PM] [DFW] Checking Locked Up
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:54PM] [Zad]: Sending device event DeviceEquippedAnal Pear Plug(Prisoner:1)
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:54PM] error: Unbound native function "FormHasKeywordString" called
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:54PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp7"
stack:
    [alias PlayerRef on quest zadDevicesUnderneathQuest (09041472)].zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.Logic() - "zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.psc" Line 17
    [alias PlayerRef on quest zadDevicesUnderneathQuest (09041472)].zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.OnObjectEquipped() - "zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.psc" Line 48
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:54PM] [Zad]: SyncInventory(): Equipping Anal Pear Plug.
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:54PM] [DFW] Update Done: 82.397003
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:54PM] [DFW] Equip Event: 82.269005
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:54PM] [Zad]: Sending device event DeviceEquippedChastity Belt(Prisoner:1)
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:54PM] [DFW] Equip Done:  82.509003
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:54PM] error: Unbound native function "FormHasKeywordString" called
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:54PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp7"
stack:
    [alias PlayerRef on quest zadDevicesUnderneathQuest (09041472)].zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.Logic() - "zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.psc" Line 17
    [alias PlayerRef on quest zadDevicesUnderneathQuest (09041472)].zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.OnObjectEquipped() - "zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.psc" Line 48
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:54PM] [DFW] Equip Event: 82.573006
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:54PM] [DFW] Equip Done:  82.653008
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:54PM] [Zad]: SyncInventory(): Equipping Chastity Belt.
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:54PM] [Zad]: original exposure rate was 2.000000. Setting to 6.000000.
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:54PM] [Zad]: CorsetMagic(): No corset equipped, done.
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:54PM] [Zad]: Difficulty modifier applied: 1.000000 [setting: 4]
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:55PM] [DFW] Update Event: 83.437004
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:55PM] [DFW] Checking Collared
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:55PM] [DFW] Checking Arms Locked
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:55PM] [DFW] Checking Gagged
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:55PM] [DFW] Checking Hobbled
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:55PM] [DFW] Checking Locked Up
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:55PM] [Zad]: OnContainerChanged()
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:55PM] [DFW] Update Done: 83.869003
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:56PM] error: Unbound native function "FormHasKeywordString" called
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:56PM] [DFW] Equip Event: 83.965004
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:56PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp7"
stack:
    [alias PlayerRef on quest zadDevicesUnderneathQuest (09041472)].zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.Logic() - "zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.psc" Line 17
    [alias PlayerRef on quest zadDevicesUnderneathQuest (09041472)].zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.OnObjectEquipped() - "zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.psc" Line 48
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:56PM] [Zad]: OnEquipped(Prisoner: Red Leather Paw Bondage Mittens)
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:56PM] [Zad]: No menus are open. Equipping silently.
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:56PM] [DFW] Equip Done:  84.077003
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:56PM] [Zad]: Sending device event DeviceEquippedBondage Mittens(Prisoner:1)
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:56PM] [DFW] Equip Event: 84.253006
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:56PM] error: Unbound native function "FormHasKeywordString" called
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:56PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp7"
stack:
    [alias PlayerRef on quest zadDevicesUnderneathQuest (09041472)].zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.Logic() - "zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.psc" Line 17
    [alias PlayerRef on quest zadDevicesUnderneathQuest (09041472)].zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.OnObjectEquipped() - "zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.psc" Line 48
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:56PM] [Zad]: OnEffectStart(armbinder-noLockpicks)
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:56PM] [Zad]: SyncInventory(): Equipping Bondage Mittens.
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:56PM] [DFW] Equip Done:  84.333008
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:56PM] [DFW] Update Event: 84.909004
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:57PM] [DFW] Checking Collared
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:57PM] [DFW] Checking Arms Locked
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:57PM] [DFW] Checking Gagged
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:57PM] [DCUR] Periodical update starts
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:57PM] [DFW] Checking Hobbled
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:57PM] [DFW] Checking Locked Up
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:57PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (08042D62)>]:Defered maintenance...
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:57PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (08042D62)>]: found Devious Devices - Assets.esm
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:57PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (08042D62)>]: Enabled Desire spell
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:57PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (08042D62)>]: Updated notification key to 49
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:57PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (08042D62)>]: finished maintenance
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:57PM] [DFW] Wearing 1 other restraints.
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:57PM] [DFW] Arms 
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:57PM] [DFW] Update Done: 85.373001
[11/25/2020 - 10:02:59PM] [DCUR] Sex attacks are disabled!
[11/25/2020 - 10:03:01PM] [DFW] Update Event: 88.877007
[11/25/2020 - 10:03:01PM] [DFW] Cleaning Nearby: 88.941002
[11/25/2020 - 10:03:01PM] [DFW] Cleaning Nearby Done: 88.973007
[11/25/2020 - 10:03:01PM] [DFW] Update Done: 88.989006
[11/25/2020 - 10:03:02PM] [DFW] Update Event: 90.029007
[11/25/2020 - 10:03:02PM] [DFW] Update Done: 90.093002
[11/25/2020 - 10:03:03PM] [DFW] Update Event: 91.133003
[11/25/2020 - 10:03:03PM] [DFW] Update Done: 91.197006
[11/25/2020 - 10:03:06PM] [DFW] Update Event: 94.475006
[11/25/2020 - 10:03:06PM] [DFW] Cleaning Nearby: 94.539001
[11/25/2020 - 10:03:07PM] [DFW] Cleaning Nearby Done: 94.571007
[11/25/2020 - 10:03:07PM] [DFW] Update Done: 94.587006
[11/25/2020 - 10:03:08PM] [DFW] Update Event: 95.627007
[11/25/2020 - 10:03:08PM] [DFW] Update Done: 95.691002
[11/25/2020 - 10:03:09PM] [DFW] Update Event: 96.731003
[11/25/2020 - 10:03:09PM] [DFW] Update Done: 96.795006
[11/25/2020 - 10:03:10PM] [DFW] Update Event: 97.835007
[11/25/2020 - 10:03:10PM] [DFW] Cleaning Nearby: 97.899002
[11/25/2020 - 10:03:10PM] [DFW] Cleaning Nearby Done: 97.931007
[11/25/2020 - 10:03:10PM] [DFW] Update Done: 97.947006
 

 

Hope I did that right, let me know if you need other information, and also thanks!

[kaldwin]

35 minutes ago, Ictuss said:

I went with alternative start, set my player level to 10, fiddled with DCL so only standard events would happen, set chance to 100%, set max restraints to 2 and looted a skeleton and a drawer. This initiated the cursed loot event and forced 6 pieces of restraint on me.

 

I'm kind of at a loss at this point, my only theory is that I might not have the correct version of mods or something

I'm kind of at a loss.  I can only think of one other thing.  Under the miscellaneous options tab, there's an option for % chance to find devices in containers.  these are not traps; they're just devices you can pick up as loot.  However, under the consequences tab, some where under the uncontrollable lust/self bondage sub-section, there's an option that, when horney enough, your character will just put on any devices they find.  If your devices as loot % chance is 100 and you're character is horney, it could be you're getting hit with a trap event while simultaneously putting on all the devices stored in the trapped container.  it would also explain that message about finding restraining devices and locking them on without thinking.

 

If that isn't it, I'm out of ideas

[Ictuss]

4 minutes ago, kaldwin said:

I'm kind of at a loss.  I can only think of one other thing.  Under the miscellaneous options tab, there's an option for % chance to find devices in containers.  these are not traps; they're just devices you can pick up as loot.  However, under the consequences tab, some where under the uncontrollable lust/self bondage sub-section, there's an option that, when horney enough, your character will just put on any devices they find.  If your devices as loot % chance is 100 and you're character is horney, it could be you're getting hit with a trap event while simultaneously putting on all the devices stored in the trapped container.  it would also explain that message about finding restraining devices and locking them on without thinking.

 

If that isn't it, I'm out of ideas

I started a fresh game just be sure I was doing everything right, I changed all the settings inc MCM, set level to 10 and it worked this time! I think it's probably my fault, I was making sure all my mods were working before I started my game but I think it's all good now. Thank you so much!

[kaldwin]

@ Ictuss 

 

One other thing. you said you were getting locked in 6 devices, but looking at your log file, it was actually 4.  plugs are not counted as part of your max device threshold.  when your locked in a chastity belt via a trap event, 2 plugs will always be equipped first.  If this were not the case, since belts prevent plugs from being inserted as well as removed, you could potentially get belted before getting plugged.  That would screw with the device count when comparing it to the max device threshold.  

 

The reason I bring this up, is because when I had an issue with the "mercy feature" I mentioned earlyer, I was always locked in exactly 4 devices.

No idea what that means.  maybe nothing, but something to consider while you're troubleshooting

[kaldwin]

21 minutes ago, Ictuss said:

I started a fresh game just be sure I was doing everything right, I changed all the settings inc MCM, set level to 10 and it worked this time! I think it's probably my fault, I was making sure all my mods were working before I started my game but I think it's all good now. Thank you so much!

ah, ok.  might have been that you're game didn't register the changes to your mod folder until the second quit and new game, IDK. mod managers can be temperamental like that sometimes.  glad it your problem worked itself out. 

[-Ayleth-]

For some reason the Cursed Loot MCM won´t show up. Not sure whats wrong. Manually checked if NMM forgot to put any scripts or something but.. it seems to have installed them all correctly. I tried setstage ski_configmanagerinstance 1 aswell just to be sure but that also didn´t work. 

[Elsidia]

14 minutes ago, AkiKay said:

For some reason the Cursed Loot MCM

Uninstall DCL 9.0, then start new game, initialize all other mods by save load game a few times. When all initialize complete, exit Skyrim and install DCL 9.0. MCM as i understand not show up while DD 5.0 not initialize. And later not reinitialize a MCM.

 

[gr4ssi]

2 hours ago, Elsidia said:

Uninstall DCL 9.0, then start new game, initialize all other mods by save load game a few times. When all initialize complete, exit Skyrim and install DCL 9.0. MCM as i understand not show up while DD 5.0 not initialize. And later not reinitialize a MCM.

 

I also had very good experience with installing first sexlab, then waiting , saving in the abandoned prision cell, then installing some more stuff, saving, waiting, then DD5, saving, waiting and eventually DCL9. Everything at once just didn't work on my end...

Also, I load the abandoned prison cell everytime after I start skyrim, otherwise when I load, I get CTD. If I load the abandoned prison first thing, everything runs fairly smooth. Weird, isn't it?

[gr4ssi]

@Kimy I'm doing the "learning the ropes" quest. I'm wearing the dollmakers promotion catsuit and a regular corsett. The chief doesn't check for existing corsetts in the second lesson, so I get "You can't equip multiple corsetts simultaneously". I think the immersion would benefit, if the rope master Chief Bogran would check for conflicting devices (Corsett) and remove that for re-applying it later. Just a thought...

Cheers!

[gr4ssi]

@Kimy Think I found a bug in "learning the ropes". The chief binds me in an armbinder and harness/crotch rope.

So I struggled out of the beforementioned corset, so the two bindings applied just find. I struggled out of the armbinder and untied the crotch rope/harness thing. But I'm still wearing the Maidens Shield. Wouldn't walk around Skyrim without some security. But the chief now tells me, I'm still tied, and I shall go struggle, although, I already struggled out of all the rope items. Maybe he sees the Maidens Shield and thinks, that has to go off now first, too, to continue. I will have to reload to a point without the Belt, since it won't unlock for another week, I guess. ?

[RadogoR]

21 hours ago, DeWired said:

This looks very strange, like your DCL installation is broken as hell. Namely, it thinks that DD is missing (but it isn't). Does DCL go in your load order after DD?

Thank you for pointing in the right direction! It was indeed "missing" since I've unckecked the older devious devices mod in mod manager, then installed the latest devious devices, but the mo was still looking at the old esps insted of the newer ones. Complete removal of all the old dd mods together with their eps fiels and another new game start sorted it out.

[gr4ssi]

@Kimy When the dollmaker sends me from Dawnstart to Markarth to "learn the ropes", the carriage is not to be found, when the Khajeet or what they are called set up their tents in front of town. I suppose, that's the reason. I just see a horse with carriage metall bar, but no carriage. Not sure, why, though. I did a coc "CellNameOfMarkarthStables" to get there... Edit: Replayed from earlier without coc'ing and same result.

 

So the driver and the carriage are missing, the horse and it's metall bar which should attach the carriage is there...

Maybe because of the "tree"? I use dark forrests of skyrim. But I already used the Dawnstar special carriage service before, in the game.

 

Edit: Uninstalled the forrest mod, no difference. And when I get attacked, the carriage horse runs off. ?

 

 

I did COC from Riften to Markarth before, since the cab driver didn't understand my gag talk for the heck of it... (You realize your gag is impossible to talk through). Does anyone know, what to do in such a situation? I don't want to coc around skyrim...

[gr4ssi]

28 minutes ago, gr4ssi said:

I did COC from Riften to Markarth before, since the cab driver didn't understand my gag talk for the heck of it... (You realize your gag is impossible to talk through). Does anyone know, what to do in such a situation? I don't want to coc around skyrim...

Fixed that one. I added paper and a quill to my inventory, and then he understood me. This is probably coincidence, since the gag talk just was understood, this time...

[Elsidia]

15 minutes ago, gr4ssi said:

This is probably coincidence, since the gag talk just was understood, this time...

This is original gag talk for DD.

DCL have own gag talk (at least in 8.5) In MCM is chance to trigger that gag talk. At least in DCL 8.5 About 9.0 don't know. Also you must repeat talk to driver up to 20 times and wait while Gag talk trigger. If you are very unlucky. If lucky it can trigger with first time or second. Or just in DCL MCM set trigger to 100% instead of default 75%.

 

[Skullered]

On 11/24/2020 at 9:06 PM, Best1123 said:

Hi @Kimy here are some more details about this issue that I found through my testing so that you and Skullered can track down what is causing this issue.

 

The issue occurs when both DD For Him and Beast races is installed using DD5 installer. When DCL is installed and you go in game all the gags that are added using DCL do not appear on the player character when they wear them. Even though the gag doesn't visually appear my characters mouth still opens as seen in the pictures I previously showed and the player character is unable to speak to anyone properly which is how the gags normally work. The gag meshes however do appear in the preview for the items in your characters inventory and when you drop the device on the ground they appear on the ground as well and are not invisible.

 

I removed DD For Him and Beast races from my game and the gag meshes worked correctly. I then proceeded to try installing both DD For Him and Beast races again to see if the issue occurred again and it did happen again which suggests that it is a recurring problem.

 

I then proceed to try installing DD For Him but leaving Beast races out of the installation of DD5 and the same issue occurred, I then did the opposite installing Beast races and leaving DD For Him out of the installation and again the same issue occurred.

 

I have not tested to see if it works on any races outside of the wood elf which is the race I used for my main character and I have not tested to see if the issue occurs with NPC's.

 

I hope the information above can help you identify what is causing this issue.

 

On 11/24/2020 at 6:04 PM, Kimy said:

@Skullered: Any idea if this can be confirmed, and if yes, what's causing it?

This is happening because of BRRF (and For Him) overriding the armoraddons that DCL references, which removes the elf, orc, argonian and khajiit races from "Additional races", so multiple armoraddons won't render all at once. This problem can happen with any mod that references the original armoraddons in Integration and Expansion in their custom gags.

 

The affected mods will need to be patched (there should be a DCL patch on my original BRRF page, not sure if it's severely outdated), or implement their own armoraddons into the mods themselves.

 

For the latter implementation (and preferred since it doesn't rely on an additional plugin), you will need to duplicate the armoraddons from BRRF into your own plugin and add the additional duplicated armoraddons to the armature of your custom gags. This would make the refitted gags render automatically without making BRRF a requirement. I could do that for you if you'd like.

[gr4ssi]

The quest "Learning the Ropes" doesn't go together with the Billboard Attire from the Dollmaker, in the third step. I can't put on the temple attire. Well, I guess, I will have to wear the Billboard Attire, till the contract runs out, and then try again?

It'd probably be good to not let Billboard Attire start, once you are on the "Learning the Ropes" quest, or make the rope Chief remove the Billboard Attire if there and replace it later on after the Dibella Temple Fetch subquest?