Simple Slavery

[jfraser]

20 hours ago, Seeker999 said:

Earlier, I said I was having a problem getting the auction to begin. I was stuck in my cell and nothing happened after talking to John Randall. Reading through this thread I saw a suggestion to wait a while after Randall grabs you. Nothing happened. Here are some console commands if nothing else works.

 

setstage simpleslavery 10 - start dialog w/ JR
setstage simpleslavery 20 - John Randall grabs you roughly dialog box

-------------

If after waiting, nothing happens, go to the next stage which is the auctioneer's bit. You may want to get out of the cell to avoid being stuck and separated from your master. I don't know that that would happen, but you can move to John Randall first:  player.moveto 1502530A.
setstage simpleslavery 30 - starts bidding but does not move you. However, the one time I tried it I was successfully sold.

 

I hope this helps somebody else.

So you did! I apologize - apparently I just skipped right over your post. :(

 

Thanks for the help to others. I'll look through your log to see if i see anything. in the meantime, did you start a new game for the sole purpose of seeing if it works?

[Zor2k13]

I have an idea, can you make an option for plugging into pet project as an outcome? so the player can ask some npc some seksy question and it adds that npc to a list of potential owners then later the outcome happens and they end up in the owners home stuck in one of those furnitures from display model mod?

[jfraser]

11 minutes ago, Zor2k13 said:

I have an idea, can you make an option for plugging into pet project as an outcome? so the player can ask some npc some seksy question and it adds that npc to a list of potential owners then later the outcome happens and they end up in the owners home stuck in one of those furnitures from display model mod?

hmm...i hadn't heard of that one before. looks interesting. it requires the npc to be your spouse, though.

[Zor2k13]

thats the problem but isn't that really just relationship rank 4?

 

[Zor2k13]

Might just have to mod that mod to make the only requirement relationship rank 4 instead of being spouse the the dialogue options would simply set the npc talking to the player relationship rank to 4 and put them on a list of owners.

[Seeker999]

4 hours ago, jfraser said:

So you did! I apologize - apparently I just skipped right over your post. :(

 

Thanks for the help to others. I'll look through your log to see if i see anything. in the meantime, did you start a new game for the sole purpose of seeing if it works?

No problem.

I didn't start a new game, just became enslaved. One of these days I'll finish the main quests in Skyrim once. One day. Somewhere. Probably over the rainbow.

[jfraser]

4 hours ago, Seeker999 said:

No problem.

I didn't start a new game, just became enslaved. One of these days I'll finish the main quests in Skyrim once. One day. Somewhere. Probably over the rainbow.

i understand. but start a new game just to see if the problem occurs.

[jfraser]

6 hours ago, Zor2k13 said:

Might just have to mod that mod to make the only requirement relationship rank 4 instead of being spouse the the dialogue options would simply set the npc talking to the player relationship rank to 4 and put them on a list of owners.

you would need the original author's permission to do so.

[Zor2k13]

The original author is not around serende I think it is don't know where they went. Anyone heard from that person lately? maybe if serende could change it to married or relationshiprank 4 instead of just married.

[Seeker999]

On ‎12‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 11:36 PM, jfraser said:

i understand. but start a new game just to see if the problem occurs.

I started a new game and got to the auction via Loansharks of Skyrim. Spoke to Randall and everything went as smooth as silk afterwards. No long pauses, no jumps. I got enslaved twice and both times the scene played perfectly.

 

I've used Simple Slavery in other games and ignored minor glitches. I know that different mods aren't always eager to play well together and they weren't enough of an issue or I found information relating to different mods that I didn't worry about it. The action may have stuttered a bit but it did not stop until recently. Now I'm thinking, based on how well the auctions went with my test character, that those glitches were worse than I thought. I think I know why. You'll probably tell me I'm wrong, but that's okay.

These are, I believe, the pertinent mods in my test pt (I'll put a complete list behind a spoiler): Devious Devices Assets/Expansion/Integration/Equip/Framework, Sexlab Framework/Aroused/Dialogues, Loansharks, S.L.U.T.S., Devious Cidhna, and XazPrisonOverhaul. Other than record-keeping type stuff (how much bounty, time passed, etc.) they don't continually interact between the player and their surroundings.

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

 

Auto Unequip Ammo v5_0 BodySlide and Outfit Studio - v4.2.1 Caliente's Vanilla Outfits for CBBE EK_RingLimiter Fantasy Music Overhaul FileAccess Interface for Skyrim Scripts - FISS FNIS Behavior 7.0 HN66s Earrings KS Hairdos - HDT Physics OCR - Omnisway Clothing Replacer Racemenu Overlays Plugin v2-5 RaceMenu v3-4 Realistic Force SKSE - Scripts - 1.7.3 SkyHide - Dont Show Headgears - No Helmet SkyU Take Notes - Journal of the Dragonborn The Eyes Of Beauty UIExtensions v1-2 Unofficial Misc Bug Fixes Patch

Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended 2 06 DfwSupport 170328 360 Walk and Run Plus Calientes Beautiful Bodies Edition -CBBE Colored Quest Markers ConSkrybe DD+DDX bodyslide 2.2d CBBE Demon Hunter Armor - CBBE Devious Cidhna v1_8 Devious Devices - Equip 322 Devious Devices Assets Devious Devices Expansion Devious Devices Integration Devious Framework 2 06 Double Cursor Fix FNIS Creature Pack Fuz Ro Doh HDT HighHeels System HDT Physics Extensions Heels Sound 1.5

Immersive Questing v105 Jcontainers Loansharks of Skyrim NSAP Optional Black Textures - DH PapyrusUtil v33 Pastel map markers-73775-Pastel SkyUI S.A.P_v1.4 S_L_U_T_S_0.11.2 SexLabAroused V28b SexLabFramework v162 FULL ShowRaceMenu PreCacheKiller Simple Slavery With Devious Framework SLAL: SLAnimLoader plus some animation packs SlaveTats (plus various tattoo packs) SLDialogues29 SOS xazPrisonOverhaul V033 + patch u ZazAnimationPackV7

 

 

 

 

 

 

In the game where I was having the big issue, even though I could work around it, these are the pertinent mods (also followed by complete list under a spoiler): Devious Devices Assets/Expansion/Integration/Equip/Framework, Sexlab Framework/Aroused/Dialogues, S.L.U.T.S., Devious Cidhna, XazPrisonOverhaul, Deviously Enchanted Chests, Deviously Enslaved Cont. 13.xx, Estrus Chaurus 4.3x, EstrusForSkyrim (.esp disabled), FMEA, HorribleHarassment, Naked Dungeons, SD Cages, Sexlab Stories (and Devious), SexWithThieves1,  and TBOS_211216 (The Book of Sex).

I highlighted the ones that I think are 'interrupting' Simple Slavery. I tried disabling the mods or some of their features, but that didn't help. I did find another, probably unrelated, problem with this playthrough that I think it's fair to tell you about: 2 mods disappeared from my MCM menu. They didn't disappear from the game because I can watch them load up if I go to an earlier save. The disappearing duo are Dev. Enchanted Chests and Zaz Animation Pack. I know that sometimes one mod can have unintended consequences on another, so I figure a bug can as well.
 

Spoiler

 

360 Walk and Run Plus A Simple Marriage Mod Amulet of the Divines ApachiiSkyHair v 1 6 Full Auto Unequip Ammo BodySlide and Outfit Studio Calientes Beautiful Bodies Edition -CBBE Caliente's Vanilla Outfits for CBBE Cidhna Mine Expanded - Deluxe Colored quest markers ConSkrybe Convenient Horses Convenient Horses - Unique Frost Creature Framework Demon Hunter Armor Demon Hunter Armor V2 DH Optional Black Textures Devious Cidhna  Devious Devices - Equip Devious Devices Assets Devious Devices Expansion Devious Devices Integration Devious Framework 2 06 Deviously Enchanted Chests Deviously Enslaved Cont. 13.xx Double Cursor Fix EK_RingLimiter Estrus Chaurus 4.3x  EstrusForSkyrim (.esp disabled) Fantasy Music Overhaul FileAccess Interface for Skyrim Scripts - FISS FMEA FNIS Creature Pack Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS Friendlier Taverns with Baths and Barns

Fuz Ro Doh Guards Overhaul - New Armors and Weapons HDT HighHeels System HDT Physics Extensions Heels Sound 1.5 HN66s Earrings HorribleHarassment Immersive Questing v105 Jarl Arendelle's House JContainers Kaidan V1.3 KJ Tattoos 2K KS Hairdos - HDT Physics KS Jewelry Lord Arundel's cottage Meeko and Vigilance Stealth Tweak More Nasty Critters w/ SLAL Naked Dungeons Norse Themed Tattoo Pack for RaceMenu NSAP3 OCR - Omnisway Clothing Replacer PapyrusUtil v33 Racemenu Overlays Plugin v2-5 RaceMenu v3-4 Realistic Force S.A.P_v1.4 S.L.U.T.S. SD Cages SexLab Aroused V28b SexLab Framework v162 FULL Sexlab Stories (and Devious) SexWithThieves1 ShowRaceMenu PreCacheKiller SimpleSlavery SKSE - Scripts - 1.7.3

SkyHide - Dont Show Headgears - No Helmet Mod SkyUI SLAL: SLAnimLoader + animation packs SlaveTats + assorted tattoo packs SLDialogues SOS-Lite (Schlongs of Skyrim) Soul Carin Mistman-Boneman-Wrathman Overhaul Soul Carin Summmons Take Notes - Journal of the Dragonborn TBOS_211216 (The Book of Sex) Tentacle Reskins for Estrus Test HDT Earrings Test HDT Earrings – craftable Test HDT Earrings - Pink Forsworn Texture ?? Test HDT Earrings K replacers Test HDT Earrings Pierced Cross update The Coenaculi - Tattoo Parlor plugin for Slavetats The Eyes Of Beauty UIExtensions v1-2 Unofficial Misc Bug Fixes Patch Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch WyldPlug xazPrisonOverhaul_V033 xazPrisonOverhaul_V033 Patch U XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended You Are All Pardoned Version 2 ZazAnimationPack

 

 

 

[jfraser]

5 hours ago, Seeker999 said:

I started a new game and got to the auction via Loansharks of Skyrim. Spoke to Randall and everything went as smooth as silk afterwards. No long pauses, no jumps. I got enslaved twice and both times the scene played perfectly.

 

I've used Simple Slavery in other games and ignored minor glitches. I know that different mods aren't always eager to play well together and they weren't enough of an issue or I found information relating to different mods that I didn't worry about it. The action may have stuttered a bit but it did not stop until recently. Now I'm thinking, based on how well the auctions went with my test character, that those glitches were worse than I thought. I think I know why. You'll probably tell me I'm wrong, but that's okay.

These are, I believe, the pertinent mods in my test pt (I'll put a complete list behind a spoiler): Devious Devices Assets/Expansion/Integration/Equip/Framework, Sexlab Framework/Aroused/Dialogues, Loansharks, S.L.U.T.S., Devious Cidhna, and XazPrisonOverhaul. Other than record-keeping type stuff (how much bounty, time passed, etc.) they don't continually interact between the player and their surroundings.

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Auto Unequip Ammo v5_0 BodySlide and Outfit Studio - v4.2.1 Caliente's Vanilla Outfits for CBBE EK_RingLimiter Fantasy Music Overhaul FileAccess Interface for Skyrim Scripts - FISS FNIS Behavior 7.0 HN66s Earrings KS Hairdos - HDT Physics OCR - Omnisway Clothing Replacer Racemenu Overlays Plugin v2-5 RaceMenu v3-4 Realistic Force SKSE - Scripts - 1.7.3 SkyHide - Dont Show Headgears - No Helmet SkyU Take Notes - Journal of the Dragonborn The Eyes Of Beauty UIExtensions v1-2 Unofficial Misc Bug Fixes Patch

Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended 2 06 DfwSupport 170328 360 Walk and Run Plus Calientes Beautiful Bodies Edition -CBBE Colored Quest Markers ConSkrybe DD+DDX bodyslide 2.2d CBBE Demon Hunter Armor - CBBE Devious Cidhna v1_8 Devious Devices - Equip 322 Devious Devices Assets Devious Devices Expansion Devious Devices Integration Devious Framework 2 06 Double Cursor Fix FNIS Creature Pack Fuz Ro Doh HDT HighHeels System HDT Physics Extensions Heels Sound 1.5

Immersive Questing v105 Jcontainers Loansharks of Skyrim NSAP Optional Black Textures - DH PapyrusUtil v33 Pastel map markers-73775-Pastel SkyUI S.A.P_v1.4 S_L_U_T_S_0.11.2 SexLabAroused V28b SexLabFramework v162 FULL ShowRaceMenu PreCacheKiller Simple Slavery With Devious Framework SLAL: SLAnimLoader plus some animation packs SlaveTats (plus various tattoo packs) SLDialogues29 SOS xazPrisonOverhaul V033 + patch u ZazAnimationPackV7

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In the game where I was having the big issue, even though I could work around it, these are the pertinent mods (also followed by complete list under a spoiler): Devious Devices Assets/Expansion/Integration/Equip/Framework, Sexlab Framework/Aroused/Dialogues, S.L.U.T.S., Devious Cidhna, XazPrisonOverhaul, Deviously Enchanted Chests, Deviously Enslaved Cont. 13.xx, Estrus Chaurus 4.3x, EstrusForSkyrim (.esp disabled), FMEA, HorribleHarassment, Naked Dungeons, SD Cages, Sexlab Stories (and Devious), SexWithThieves1,  and TBOS_211216 (The Book of Sex).

I highlighted the ones that I think are 'interrupting' Simple Slavery. I tried disabling the mods or some of their features, but that didn't help. I did find another, probably unrelated, problem with this playthrough that I think it's fair to tell you about: 2 mods disappeared from my MCM menu. They didn't disappear from the game because I can watch them load up if I go to an earlier save. The disappearing duo are Dev. Enchanted Chests and Zaz Animation Pack. I know that sometimes one mod can have unintended consequences on another, so I figure a bug can as well.
 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

 

360 Walk and Run Plus A Simple Marriage Mod Amulet of the Divines ApachiiSkyHair v 1 6 Full Auto Unequip Ammo BodySlide and Outfit Studio Calientes Beautiful Bodies Edition -CBBE Caliente's Vanilla Outfits for CBBE Cidhna Mine Expanded - Deluxe Colored quest markers ConSkrybe Convenient Horses Convenient Horses - Unique Frost Creature Framework Demon Hunter Armor Demon Hunter Armor V2 DH Optional Black Textures Devious Cidhna  Devious Devices - Equip Devious Devices Assets Devious Devices Expansion Devious Devices Integration Devious Framework 2 06 Deviously Enchanted Chests Deviously Enslaved Cont. 13.xx Double Cursor Fix EK_RingLimiter Estrus Chaurus 4.3x  EstrusForSkyrim (.esp disabled) Fantasy Music Overhaul FileAccess Interface for Skyrim Scripts - FISS FMEA FNIS Creature Pack Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS Friendlier Taverns with Baths and Barns

Fuz Ro Doh Guards Overhaul - New Armors and Weapons HDT HighHeels System HDT Physics Extensions Heels Sound 1.5 HN66s Earrings HorribleHarassment Immersive Questing v105 Jarl Arendelle's House JContainers Kaidan V1.3 KJ Tattoos 2K KS Hairdos - HDT Physics KS Jewelry Lord Arundel's cottage Meeko and Vigilance Stealth Tweak More Nasty Critters w/ SLAL Naked Dungeons Norse Themed Tattoo Pack for RaceMenu NSAP3 OCR - Omnisway Clothing Replacer PapyrusUtil v33 Racemenu Overlays Plugin v2-5 RaceMenu v3-4 Realistic Force S.A.P_v1.4 S.L.U.T.S. SD Cages SexLab Aroused V28b SexLab Framework v162 FULL Sexlab Stories (and Devious) SexWithThieves1 ShowRaceMenu PreCacheKiller SimpleSlavery SKSE - Scripts - 1.7.3

SkyHide - Dont Show Headgears - No Helmet Mod SkyUI SLAL: SLAnimLoader + animation packs SlaveTats + assorted tattoo packs SLDialogues SOS-Lite (Schlongs of Skyrim) Soul Carin Mistman-Boneman-Wrathman Overhaul Soul Carin Summmons Take Notes - Journal of the Dragonborn TBOS_211216 (The Book of Sex) Tentacle Reskins for Estrus Test HDT Earrings Test HDT Earrings – craftable Test HDT Earrings - Pink Forsworn Texture ?? Test HDT Earrings K replacers Test HDT Earrings Pierced Cross update The Coenaculi - Tattoo Parlor plugin for Slavetats The Eyes Of Beauty UIExtensions v1-2 Unofficial Misc Bug Fixes Patch Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch WyldPlug xazPrisonOverhaul_V033 xazPrisonOverhaul_V033 Patch U XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended You Are All Pardoned Version 2 ZazAnimationPack

 

 

 

 

the question is this: did you install or update simple slavery at any time during that save? if so, that is the issue - it will not work properly on an already-existing save.

 

thanks for the list, btw - i didn't know some of those mods existed.  

[Seeker999]

4 minutes ago, jfraser said:

the question is this: did you install or update simple slavery at any time during that save? if so, that is the issue - it will not work properly on an already-existing save.

 

thanks for the list, btw - i didn't know some of those mods existed.  

Simple Slavery was never installed from the beginning. I don't like to install everything at once. I usually like to at least get to Riverwood, maybe even get my first shout before I install a lot of mods. In the case of my test pt, I reached Riverwood, talked to Alvor, and visited the Sleeping Giant Inn before installing SS in the second group of mods.

 

As for the playthrough I had a problem with, I was in Whiterun but I don't think I talked to the jarl yet. I know for sure it was before Bleak Falls and getting the dragonstone. I did change from SS 5.21 to SS 5.2 DFW version because I realized I installed the wrong one. It was before I ever went to Riften or became enslaved.

I installed the mods in these groupings:

Spoiler

 

Round 1 mods:  360 Walk and Run Plus, BodySlide and Outfit Studio, Calientes Beautiful Bodies Edition -CBBE, Caliente's Vanilla Outfits for CBBE, Colored quest markers, Demon Hunter Armor - CBBEv3 and UNP, Demon Hunter Armor V2 - CBBEv3 - UNP, Double Cursor Fix, EK_RingLimiter, Fantasy Music Overhaul, FileAccess Interface for Skyrim Scripts - FISS, FNIS Creature Pack, Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS, HDT Physics Extensions, HN66s Earrings, Immersive Questing v105 NOW PLAYABLE, KS Hairdos - HDT Physics, OCR - Omnisway Clothing Replacer - CBBE BodySlide BBP TBBP, PapyrusUtil v33, Racemenu Overlays Plugin v2-5, RaceMenu v3-4, Realistic Force, ShowRaceMenu PreCacheKiller, SKSE - Scripts - 1.7.3, SkyHide - Dont Show Headgears - No Helmet Mod, SkyUI, Take Notes - Journal of the Dragonborn, The Eyes Of Beauty, UIExtensions v1-2, Unofficial Misc Bug Fixes Patch, Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch, XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended, You Are All Pardoned Version 2

Round 2 mods:  A Simple Marriage Mod, Convenient Horses, Convenient Horses - Unique Frost, Fuz Ro Doh, JContainers, Meeko and Vigilance Stealth Tweak, ZazAnimationPack, Amulet of the Divines - All 9 Divine Enchantments into 1 Amulet, Demon Hunter Optional Black Textures, SOS-Lite (Schlongs of Skyrim)

Round 3 mods:  ApachiiSkyHair v 1 6 Full, Guards Overhaul - New Armors and Weapons, HDT HighHeels System, Heels Sound 1.5, KS Jewelry, Soul Carin Mistman-Boneman-Wrathman Overhaul, Soul Carin Summmons

Round 4 mods:  Cidhna Mine Expanded - Deluxe Version need hairstyles from Apachii, Friendlier Taverns with Baths and Barns, NSAP3, S.A.P_v1.4, SexLab Framework v162 FULL, TBOS_211216 (The Book of Sex), Test HDT Earrings, Test HDT Earrings – craftable, Test HDT Earrings - Pink Forsworn Texture ??, Test HDT Earrings K replacers, Test HDT Earrings Pierced Cross update

Round 5 mods:  EstrusForSkyrim, Estrus Chaurus 4.3x , SimpleSlavery, FMEA, Tentacle Reskins for Estrus, SexLab Aroused V28b, SLDialogues2, Sexlab Stories (base)

Round 6 mods:  Devious Devices Assets, Devious Devices Integration, Devious Devices Expansion , Devious Devices - Equip, Devious Framework 2 06 , Sexlab Stories (Devious), replaced Simple Slavery w/ Devious Framework version (before Riften or any slavery attempt).

Round 7 mods:  Devious Cidhna v1_8 , Deviously Enchanted Chests , Deviously Enslaved Continued, HorribleHarassment, Naked Dungeons, S_L_U_T_S_, SlaveTats, SexWithThieves1, xazPrisonOverhaul_V033, xazPrisonOverhaul_V033 Patch U

Round 8 mods:  KJ Tattoos 2K, Neith Team Warpaints for SlaveTats, Norse Themed Tattoo Pack for RaceMenu, Slavetats-various packs, SlaveTatsEventsBridge01b, WyldPlug

Round 9 mods:  Creature Framework  , More Nasty Critters , UIExtensions, SLAL: SLAnimLoader , SLAL: SLAL Patch for Creature, BestialityAnimationPack, BestialityExtras, Kaidan V1.3 , Lord Arundel's cottage, Jarl Arendelle's House

Round 10 mods:  ConSkrybe, SD Cages, Auto Unequip Ammo

Considering mods:  Deadly_Dragons, Suspicious Gold Starter, and very late in game: SkyCasino, Things in the Dark 2.11

 

A lotta mods here and on Nexus. *sigh*

[valcon767]

2 hours ago, Seeker999 said:

As for the playthrough I had a problem with, I was in Whiterun but I don't think I talked to the jarl yet. I know for sure it was before Bleak Falls and getting the dragonstone. I did change from SS 5.21 to SS 5.2 DFW version because I realized I installed the wrong one. It was before I ever went to Riften or became enslaved.

 

 

ok as for updating Simple Slavery goes the only way i know of for sure to have it work correctly is to have only 1 version installed on any game.

 

changing versions still works the same as updating it midgame.

 

i did update Simple Slavery a couple of games ago mid game. the results were ineteresting.  after doing a clean save then updating it mid game, the particular save game 

i updated it on everything worked fine (as far as i could tell),  a while later i rolled back to the "cleaned" savegame for testing something else out on, and that time Simple

Slavery went way waaaaaaaaaaaaay "out of whack". think for a minute ..it was the exact same save game and in 2 tries at updating Simple Slavery i got 2 totally different

results.  it seems to be a "luck of the draw" on updating mid game (or even switching versions). i have to say that Simple Slavery has always worked correctly (other than 

the occasional known bug) when it was the same version from the beginning of the game.

 

[jfraser]

Yes. I don't know why, but SS gets wonky if it's not there from the start of the game.

 

It's actually a bad idea to install mods after the game has started. That will lead to instability.

 

[Seeker999]

And here I thought I was being responsible!

So, unless the mod specifically says to wait until after a new game, load up the mods in one go. Got it!.

[valcon767]

9 hours ago, Seeker999 said:

And here I thought I was being responsible!

So, unless the mod specifically says to wait until after a new game, load up the mods in one go. Got it!.

even those can cause problems

 

a couple of notes about adding or removing mods mid game:

 

1 any time you add or remove a mod mid game you get a problem:

     it changes the load order of all mods AFTER it.  this can cause problems for any mod that has scripts in it.  it can possibly break scripted mods to have their load order

     changed mid game.  their are ways around this singular problem, but you must plan ahead (ie BEFORE you start a game) and take precautions to prevent this single

     problem.

 

2 any time you remove a mod mid game it can leave stuff (scripts usually, but other things are possible also) "baked" into the savegames.

 

3 you can try using a savegame cleaning tool.  success depends on what was left behind, and what was not, to try to clean the "baked" information out of

   the savegames, but this is not a sure thing (and can possibly break the savegame in the process).

 

for reference purposes how i start a new game is in the spoiler (and yes i use AS-LAL)

1 from main menu choose option to start new game

2 choose pc race/sex combo, and looks (i have a favorite preset that i use most times for looks)

3 when pc appears (in AS-LAL start cell for me) go do something else for a bit (ie wait until all notifications have appeared and scrolled off-screen)

4 make a hard save (manual save game in a new slot)

5 start sexlab, and wait for notification it is read for use (load saved settings for it at this point)

6 reset creature framework (yes i use MNC).  this step is not needed by everyone every time, but it does not hurt and ensures CF is working right, and after it finishes loading make any adjustments to it

7 register ZAP (Zaz Animation Pack) animations with sexlab 

8 registar SLAL (Sexlab Animation Loader) and the animations i prefer with sexlab

9 make a new hard save (same as step 4)

10 load savegame made in step 9

11 wait out the new crop of notifications i get from mods that did not start yet (they were waiting on a game load or for Sexlab to be active before they finished their startup)

12 activate any mods that need manual activation (waiting for their notice that they are ready to go)

13 make a new hard save (so if i screw something up i don't have to restart from scratch)

14 adjust all MCM settings to preferred settings (load settings for mods that allow it)

15 make a new hard save ( i usually do this one thru console and give it a name like qs110 or something similar so that i know its a quickstart for a new game)

16 delete the hard saves i made prior to step 15

17 use the Mara Statue in the AS-LAL cell to actually start playing

 

with that process i have an over 99% success rate at starting a new game with all my mods working correctly.  not everyone has to do it that way.

individual mileage will vary. some of the steps are not needed by everyone (load orders and individual computers vary greatly).

 

hope this information helps someone

 

[jfraser]

You don't have to save that much or delete the old saves, but it doesn't hurt. There have been times when something crashed and I wished I had made a hard save. So I agree with all of that. Setting up a new game is a pain, but you can't rush through it. As he said, even save cleaners will not fix everything if you change things mid game.

 

 

[Seeker999]

I'm usually a compulsive saver so that shouldn't be a problem. I'll try this next game, thanks guys.

[LesboIsBesto]

On 10/26/2017 at 7:57 AM, jfraser said:

I don't know about spanking animations, sorry. Fnis has an extended version that can handle many more animations. It says it is experimental, but I haven't had any problems with it so far.

My bad to bring up an old unrelated issue back but am about ready to try installin new animation packs like Nibbles, FunnyBiz, Rydins, & more but I still haven't tried getting the expanded FNIS for the animation limit increase cuz am still confused on how to place that over normal FNIS 6.3 & don't want to break my game & I don't have Creature Pack still.

 

Also do you know whether or not that if I dont have the Creature Pack installed, not only the packs I mentioned will still work, they won't use creature animations to add up the number of registered animations & reach the limit I can have active? I don't know if Leito has creature animations but I have it without creature pack & they aren't mentioned anywhere in-game or in FNIS when I run it so that's what I'm basing all of this off of.

[jfraser]

On 12/15/2017 at 3:59 PM, Destroyah340 said:

My bad to bring up an old unrelated issue back but am about ready to try installin new animation packs like Nibbles, FunnyBiz, Rydins, & more but I still haven't tried getting the expanded FNIS for the animation limit increase cuz am still confused on how to place that over normal FNIS 6.3 & don't want to break my game & I don't have Creature Pack still.

 

Also do you know whether or not that if I dont have the Creature Pack installed, not only the packs I mentioned will still work, they won't use creature animations to add up the number of registered animations & reach the limit I can have active? I don't know if Leito has creature animations but I have it without creature pack & they aren't mentioned anywhere in-game or in FNIS when I run it so that's what I'm basing all of this off of.

I admit, I didn't follow some of that. But you don't put the new FNIS over the old - you delete the old and replace it with the new. It will probably be safe on an existing save, but it's hard to say. You might just have to wait until you're done with this playthrough and start fresh with the new FNIS.

 

If you mean the FNIS creature pack, I don't think failing to install it will change the number of animations. All that does is allow creature animations to work - it doesn't add any on its own. So you will need to cull the animations from other mods if you don't want them to be included in the FNIS limit.

[mentalmike72]

if i checked SD+ who will i be sold to?

[bicobus]

Different actors exists, one of those. But they are specific actors to simple slavery, nobody from the vanilla game will purchase you from simple slavery.

[chaimhewast]

7 hours ago, halloeen said:

i don't understand if i'm supposed to get all of them or only defeat and slavery or what cause i have all of those mods

The only required mods are ZAP and Fuz Ro Doh, the rest are optional and send you to this mod or provide a scenario to send you to. You'll want at least one mod that can send you to SS and at least one mod that adds an outcome though, otherwise this won't do much.

[chaimhewast]

2 hours ago, halloeen said:

I know that the thing confusing me is do i get all the download files or only 2 of the 3 because i have devious devices and sexlab defeat

Then refer to the first few lines in the post:

 

Quote

5.2 - Split the mod back up into different versions. If you use Devious Framework, use the Devious Framework version.Otherwise, use the regular version.

 

[...]

 

Defeat Patch - If you use Defeat 5.3.5, this patch will help smooth the enslavement using the Devious Framework version. If you don't have Devious Framework and Defeat, you don't need this patch (although it won't hurt anything if you have it).

Note that it's referring to Devious Framework, NOT Devious Devices. If you don't have Devious Framework, only get 5.21. If you have Devious Framework but not Defeat, get the Devious Framework version. If you have both Devious Framework and Defeat, get the Devious Framework version and the Defeat 5.3.5 patch.

[LesboIsBesto]

I got sent to Simple Slavery thanks to hired thugs that SD+ sent after me (not on the latest version btw) & the auction chose the Submissive Lola slavery mod. Problem is I didnt have a follower & the game didnt spawn me away from the auction with anyone. It started the Lola quest but did nothing to me & left me on the auction stage as if I went to the auction with no mods installed. Is this because Lola has been abandoned or was this an issue beforehand?