The Sisterhood of Dibella LE (February 2023)

[DeepBlueFrog]

Tokens of Dibella are driven by mod event and factions. They should work regardless of the mod as long as you have sex with someone from the Markarth Temple faction.

 

 

[lionrht]

Just started the first quest with collecting donations with the wreath, but everyone is saying they are too busy x.x any ideas on troubleshooting?

 

EDIT: NVM FIXED IT

[Jolie Rouge]

15 hours ago, DeepBlueFrog said:

Tokens of Dibella are driven by mod event and factions. They should work regardless of the mod as long as you have sex with someone from the Markarth Temple faction.

 

 

Yep, that did it! Thanks!

 

Another matter I've gotten into is the game freezing after talking (gift of Dibella dialog) to the Solitude guard between the outer and the inner walls of Solitude, right in front of the gate. 

I'm making a list of the animations to test them later in another spot to make sure they work, which I'm sure of.

 

Edit: the guard on the outer wall works fine so it has to be the small area in front of the city gates.

[worik]

18 hours ago, DeepBlueFrog said:

Tokens of Dibella are driven by mod event and factions.

? hmmm, just to make sure: which modevent are you listening for?

 

I still have my SLSO situation in mind where it appears to me it works (is recognized) only if I switch the SLSO separate orgasm feature off in these situations.

 

Or am I just observing random bad&good luck in my game?

[Jolie Rouge]

1 hour ago, worik said:

? hmmm, just to make sure: which modevent are you listening for?

 

I still have my SLSO situation in mind where it appears to me it works (is recognized) only if I switch the SLSO separate orgasm feature off in these situations.

 

Or am I just observing random bad&good luck in my game?

Give it a try with Sister Ophelia in the Solitude temple, got a mark for each time I used the SexLab Debug spell on her.

[Jolie Rouge]

So I've finished the corruption story which is fun to play, but now an issue has shown up: invisible dresses.

After going through the files I can point at Ashara Imperial Dress in the sister_pure folder. Had a look at the dress, it's nice, but then I don't use unp/7b/whatever, my bodies are all CBBE.

Aside from walking heads no problems.

 

[Anon34]

I have a bug where I can't seem to advance in the plot, I've rescued the Sybil but the option to join the sisters doesn't come up. Only that i need to gather donations, but then my character isn't given the satchel and the wreath they need. Anyway to spawn the 2 items in maybe to jog the quest along? or will simply giving marks of Dibella progress the story anyway? 

[4nk8r]

6 hours ago, Jolie Rouge said:

So I've finished the corruption story which is fun to play, but now an issue has shown up: invisible dresses.

After going through the files I can point at Ashara Imperial Dress in the sister_pure folder. Had a look at the dress, it's nice, but then I don't use unp/7b/whatever, my bodies are all CBBE.

Aside from walking heads no problems.

 

If you're playing the LE version, go back to the main download for this mod and download/install the "The Sisterhood of Dibella + Sisters BodySlide Files.zip".  Use Bodyslide to export the outfits.  If you're playing the SSE version, I uploaded some adjusted SSE bodyslide outfits here:

 

 

[Jolie Rouge]

2 hours ago, 4nk8r said:

If you're playing the LE version, go back to the main download for this mod and download/install the "The Sisterhood of Dibella + Sisters BodySlide Files.zip".  Use Bodyslide to export the outfits.  If you're playing the SSE version, I uploaded some adjusted SSE bodyslide outfits here:

 

 

Hey, thanks for this, grabbed it right after downloading all the required  Sisterhood files. 

To answer the question, I'm playing SSE.

 

Will give it a try and run it through BodySlide. Anything I should keep an eye open for?

[4nk8r]

7 hours ago, Jolie Rouge said:

Hey, thanks for this, grabbed it right after downloading all the required  Sisterhood files. 

To answer the question, I'm playing SSE.

 

Will give it a try and run it through BodySlide. Anything I should keep an eye open for?

I converted the outfits by importing the XML's from the Oldrim Bodyslides available from the main download.  There are mesh gaps all over the place that become obvious with certain slider settings (mostly the breast areas), so depending on your preset choices you may experience body clipping.  I fixed most of what I had patience for that worked with my slider choices.

 

The "corrupt sisters" outfit (the porn-jewelry outfit) is missing belly weighting on the body itself (it's on the outfit, not the underlying CBBE body).  I've since fixed it in my own install, but haven't taken the time to re-upload.  I also noticed some of the other outfits lacked an NPC BELLY node completely.  I remember importing one from another working outfit via Nifskope, but I don't remember if I corrected these before upload.  Obviously belly physics won't work without that node.  Morphs will still work for inflation, but no bounce.  If you notice that node is still missing on some outfits, let me know and I can upload my corrected set.

[Jolie Rouge]

7 hours ago, 4nk8r said:

I converted the outfits by importing the XML's from the Oldrim Bodyslides available from the main download.  There are mesh gaps all over the place that become obvious with certain slider settings (mostly the breast areas), so depending on your preset choices you may experience body clipping.  I fixed most of what I had patience for that worked with my slider choices.

 

The "corrupt sisters" outfit (the porn-jewelry outfit) is missing belly weighting on the body itself (it's on the outfit, not the underlying CBBE body).  I've since fixed it in my own install, but haven't taken the time to re-upload.  I also noticed some of the other outfits lacked an NPC BELLY node completely.  I remember importing one from another working outfit via Nifskope, but I don't remember if I corrected these before upload.  Obviously belly physics won't work without that node.  Morphs will still work for inflation, but no bounce.  If you notice that node is still missing on some outfits, let me know and I can upload my corrected set.

So far I've seen Sister Senna wearing a white dress after entering the temple for the first time, all the Travelling Sisters in their Wench dress and now most of them wear the Dibella Whore Outfit (the porn-jewelry) or would be naked wearing the neophyte wreath; no clipping or anything. The first invisible bodies I've come across were Haelga and Svana but they switched to their respective Sisterhood outfits after corrupting them.

But I can pin the invisible outfits to another mod, trying to fix it.

 

Belly weighting, that's a HDT thing, right....? 

[4nk8r]

4 hours ago, Jolie Rouge said:

So far I've seen Sister Senna wearing a white dress after entering the temple for the first time, all the Travelling Sisters in their Wench dress and now most of them wear the Dibella Whore Outfit (the porn-jewelry) or would be naked wearing the neophyte wreath; no clipping or anything. The first invisible bodies I've come across were Haelga and Svana but they switched to their respective Sisterhood outfits after corrupting them.

But I can pin the invisible outfits to another mod, trying to fix it.

 

Belly weighting, that's a HDT thing, right....? 

The weighting works for CBP or HDT.  HDT gets you collision interaction between objects in addition to simply reacting to motion.  I just use CBP, which is just motion/jiggle.  In my experience, HDT is unstable and often creates FPS performance issues if too many things have physics on screen at the same time, like HDT clothing, equipment, hair and body all simultaneously on multiple actors in the same cell.

 

Regarding outfits, Fjotra has her own slutty outfit on the corrupt side and some weird pantsuit looking thing for pure.  The only issues I've ever had before CBBE outfits became available (original is UNP outfits/bodies) were that bodies clipped through the clothing or simply didn't scale correctly to the bodies underneath (too large).  I've not had invisible ones before with this mod.  That means the mesh isn't even there to be loaded.  If the mesh was there, but no texture, it would be purple.  Do you have any other mods that replace outfits that might be farther down your load order?

 

You're probably using the merged mod, but I self-converted to SSE using the 2 separate LE mods (sexlab_dibellacult.esp and sexlab_dibellacult_sisters.esp). Haelga is a vanilla Skyrim NPC, but her overrides are defined in sexlab_dibellacult_sisters.esp.  I don't see any outfit override there, so she should start out wearing her vanilla merchant clothes, boots and amulet.  Svana Far-Shield is unique to this mod and her outfit is defined in sexlab_dibellacult.esp.  She should start out wearing the hood, boots and amulet, but be otherwise naked.  Maybe this changed in the merged version?  Either that or as you've said, you have another mod causing the issue, but that should only be affecting Haelga, not Svana.  I think you can get invisible meshes if you run out of video RAM.  I know I've had bodies go invisible when I was rolling through different weights in RaceMenu before, followed shortly thereafter by CTD.  Maybe you need to step down your textures from 4k to 2k or from 2 to 1, 1 to 512b.  At least something to consider if this continues.

[Jolie Rouge]

3 hours ago, 4nk8r said:

The weighting works for CBP or HDT.  HDT gets you collision interaction between objects in addition to simply reacting to motion.  I just use CBP, which is just motion/jiggle.  In my experience, HDT is unstable and often creates FPS performance issues if too many things have physics on screen at the same time, like HDT clothing, equipment, hair and body all simultaneously on multiple actors in the same cell.

 

Regarding outfits, Fjotra has her own slutty outfit on the corrupt side and some weird pantsuit looking thing for pure.  The only issues I've ever had before CBBE outfits became available (original is UNP outfits/bodies) were that bodies clipped through the clothing or simply didn't scale correctly to the bodies underneath (too large).  I've not had invisible ones before with this mod.  That means the mesh isn't even there to be loaded.  If the mesh was there, but no texture, it would be purple.  Do you have any other mods that replace outfits that might be farther down your load order?

 

You're probably using the merged mod, but I self-converted to SSE using the 2 separate LE mods (sexlab_dibellacult.esp and sexlab_dibellacult_sisters.esp). Haelga is a vanilla Skyrim NPC, but her overrides are defined in sexlab_dibellacult_sisters.esp.  I don't see any outfit override there, so she should start out wearing her vanilla merchant clothes, boots and amulet.  Svana Far-Shield is unique to this mod and her outfit is defined in sexlab_dibellacult.esp.  She should start out wearing the hood, boots and amulet, but be otherwise naked.  Maybe this changed in the merged version?  Either that or as you've said, you have another mod causing the issue, but that should only be affecting Haelga, not Svana.  I think you can get invisible meshes if you run out of video RAM.  I know I've had bodies go invisible when I was rolling through different weights in RaceMenu before, followed shortly thereafter by CTD.  Maybe you need to step down your textures from 4k to 2k or from 2 to 1, 1 to 512b.  At least something to consider if this continues.

I wanted to use HDT, but after reading through the HDT-SMP thread I went for CBP which seems the easier-to-use-physics-package, at least to me.

Yes, I do have Notepad++ and some other stuff I've been using while modding other games but then I don't know a thing about XML or whatever would be required to get HDT working; and with all the talk about it being updated/not updated/no future support/no source code/yes/no.... CBP may be simple but it's not that complicated.

 

I can finally pin the invisible clothing on another mod.

But wait....Svana is unique? Haelga always had that niece of hers complaining of her conditions and she's a part of a quest (Thieves Guild).

My textures are fine, sticking to 2k, that's good enough for me and I can't imagine running out of video RAM (GTX 1080 8GB), body textures only, nothing else.

And yes, both Haelga and Svana have their outfits after corrupting them, it's just before that they have invisible clothes.

Yeah, I've seen that pantsuit Fjotra has, reminds me of the 1970ies.....

 

So, load order, I'll try to get the merchant clothes back and then I'll do something about it, see if it would change things.

 

Edit: vanilla outfits are back, leaves the one found in the temple in Markarth down in the bath; there's a dresser in the room before the pool, containing it.

Edit 2: correction: it's not the dresser down in the bath, it's the dresser in the room where you'd have to steal the statue (see pics).

[4nk8r]

4 hours ago, Jolie Rouge said:

I wanted to use HDT, but after reading through the HDT-SMP thread I went for CBP which seems the easier-to-use-physics-package, at least to me.

Yes, I do have Notepad++ and some other stuff I've been using while modding other games but then I don't know a thing about XML or whatever would be required to get HDT working; and with all the talk about it being updated/not updated/no future support/no source code/yes/no.... CBP may be simple but it's not that complicated.

 

I can finally pin the invisible clothing on another mod.

But wait....Svana is unique? Haelga always had that niece of hers complaining of her conditions and she's a part of a quest (Thieves Guild).

My textures are fine, sticking to 2k, that's good enough for me and I can't imagine running out of video RAM (GTX 1080 8GB), body textures only, nothing else.

And yes, both Haelga and Svana have their outfits after corrupting them, it's just before that they have invisible clothes.

Yeah, I've seen that pantsuit Fjotra has, reminds me of the 1970ies.....

 

So, load order, I'll try to get the merchant clothes back and then I'll do something about it, see if it would change things.

 

Edit: vanilla outfits are back, leaves the one found in the temple in Markarth down in the bath; there's a dresser in the room before the pool, containing it.

Edit 2: correction: it's not the dresser down in the bath, it's the dresser in the room where you'd have to steal the statue (see pics).

Svana has an EditorID of _SLSD_NPC_SvanaCorrupted and FormID of XX033FB0 (XX is whererver the mod is in your load order).  Her default outfit is defined as _SLSD_TravelingSisterOutfitNaked (FormID XX011837).  This outfit is comprised of ClothesMerchantBoots "Boots" (ARMO:0004223D), ReligiousDibellaBeauty "Amulet of Dibella" (ARMO:000C8915) and _SLSD_ClothesHood "Travelling Sister Hood" (ARMO:XX000D67).

 

Svana's torso should have been naked.  So maybe you have some mod that places an outfit there if the slot is empty, but was missing a mesh for whatever that was?  Nudity otherwise works, right? No bodiless nude people running around, head floating about?

[Jolie Rouge]

11 hours ago, 4nk8r said:

Svana has an EditorID of _SLSD_NPC_SvanaCorrupted and FormID of XX033FB0 (XX is whererver the mod is in your load order).  Her default outfit is defined as _SLSD_TravelingSisterOutfitNaked (FormID XX011837).  This outfit is comprised of ClothesMerchantBoots "Boots" (ARMO:0004223D), ReligiousDibellaBeauty "Amulet of Dibella" (ARMO:000C8915) and _SLSD_ClothesHood "Travelling Sister Hood" (ARMO:XX000D67).

 

Svana's torso should have been naked.  So maybe you have some mod that places an outfit there if the slot is empty, but was missing a mesh for whatever that was?  Nudity otherwise works, right? No bodiless nude people running around, head floating about?

That's exactly her outfit after she's been corrupted.

Everything else is fine; disabled the mod throwing issues and now it's fixed.

[battleshadow]

Question about Sybil.  Is she supposed to have a different head then the body?  I know I'm using my own meshes but, its like her skin colors don't even match up.  Very off putting.  Is there a way to fix that?

[Fuzzy_Fox]

1 hour ago, battleshadow said:

Question about Sybil.  Is she supposed to have a different head then the body?  I know I'm using my own meshes but, its like her skin colors don't even match up.  Very off putting.  Is there a way to fix that?

In a word no her head should be the same colour. Looks like your mesh is doing something to her head. I use the AIO Animated Pussy 4.0 mod and she is all one colour. 

[battleshadow]

10 minutes ago, Fuzzy_Fox said:

In a word no her head should be the same colour. Looks like your mesh is doing something to her head. I use the AIO Animated Pussy 4.0 mod and she is all one colour. 

I also use AIO Animated Pussy 4.0.  Wonder what's causing it then.  Could RSChildren be the the issue then? I mean she's not a child but the head is definitely off... 

[battleshadow]

Actually now that I think about it, is there a mod that updates the female npcs for this mod?  They are all currently using vanilla face and hair stuff.  Or are the npcs unique to the mod itself? 

[DeepBlueFrog]

Do not trust LOOT or other automated load orders and place both Sisterhood esps at the end of your load order to avoid face color issues.

 

The unique Svana is a clone that should be active only after you are done with vanilla quests for normal Svana. 

[Jolie Rouge]

14 hours ago, battleshadow said:

I also use AIO Animated Pussy 4.0.  Wonder what's causing it then.  Could RSChildren be the the issue then? I mean she's not a child but the head is definitely off... 

If I'm not totally wrong then Fjotra is flagged/tagged/marked/whatever as a child when you rescue her, later there's a transition to adult (you get a message about that). 

[4nk8r]

5 hours ago, DeepBlueFrog said:

Do not trust LOOT or other automated load orders and place both Sisterhood esps at the end of your load order to avoid face color issues.

 

The unique Svana is a clone that should be active only after you are done with vanilla quests for normal Svana. 

Regarding Svana, I was expecting her to appear as an override.  So, the use of cloned NPC's facilitates what?  Why not just alter the vanilla asset?

[Jolie Rouge]

On 10/18/2018 at 12:43 AM, 4nk8r said:

Svana has an EditorID of _SLSD_NPC_SvanaCorrupted and FormID of XX033FB0 (XX is whererver the mod is in your load order).  Her default outfit is defined as _SLSD_TravelingSisterOutfitNaked (FormID XX011837).  This outfit is comprised of ClothesMerchantBoots "Boots" (ARMO:0004223D), ReligiousDibellaBeauty "Amulet of Dibella" (ARMO:000C8915) and _SLSD_ClothesHood "Travelling Sister Hood" (ARMO:XX000D67).

 

Svana's torso should have been naked.  So maybe you have some mod that places an outfit there if the slot is empty, but was missing a mesh for whatever that was?  Nudity otherwise works, right? No bodiless nude people running around, head floating about?

Could you please check the Travelling Sister Hood with that Editor?

I'm using Campfire and have set the options to not removing helmets/hats since this would remove player enchantments (game issue) when lying around in your tent; the hood would be removed anyway and be displayed where normally your armor would appear, except if you're wearing armor, then the armor would appear there.

[4nk8r]

20 hours ago, Jolie Rouge said:

Could you please check the Travelling Sister Hood with that Editor?

I'm using Campfire and have set the options to not removing helmets/hats since this would remove player enchantments (game issue) when lying around in your tent; the hood would be removed anyway and be displayed where normally your armor would appear, except if you're wearing armor, then the armor would appear there.

Not quite sure what you're asking for here, but the hood you're asking about covers slots 31 (hair), 41 (long hair), 43 (ears).  Slot 31 seems to be the most common "helmet/hat" slot, though.  I've not much experience using Campfire, but if it allows you to control what is/n't removed by slot number, that's the minimum you should flag.

[Jolie Rouge]

19 hours ago, 4nk8r said:

Not quite sure what you're asking for here, but the hood you're asking about covers slots 31 (hair), 41 (long hair), 43 (ears).  Slot 31 seems to be the most common "helmet/hat" slot, though.  I've not much experience using Campfire, but if it allows you to control what is/n't removed by slot number, that's the minimum you should flag.

Wanted to have it checked for anything unusual, since with this setting it shouldn't be removed but it's been removed anyway. That got me curious why it would happen.