RPGX_Omega Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I do not know what is going on. I have done everything. Reinstalling, one at a time, etc. All I ended up doing is having to use an older save, delete some mods by accident I can't recover and etc. Set me back more than anything and I am still getting annoying errors I do not know why. Active Mod Files: 00 Skyrim.esm 01 Update.esm 02 Dawnguard.esm 03 ApachiiHair.esm 04 Obl-VB hair.esm 05 RaceCompatibility.esm [Version 1.60a] 06 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 07 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm 08 MagicDuelReborn.esm 09 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 1.3.3b] 0A USKP Patcher for RaceCompatibility.esp 0B Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [Version 1.2.3] 0C Rainbows.esp 0D Natural Skyrim Rain.esp 0E mintylightningmod.esp 0F MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp 10 xmas_lanterns.esp 11 Symphonies Of Skyrim.esp 12 arrowsstick.esp 13 Birdsclean.esp 14 Birdsofskyrim.esp 15 College lights.esp 16 Craftable Soulgems.esp 17 DishonoredEquipment.esp 18 DungeonQuestAwareness.esp 19 explosivechickens.esp 1A Free travel to any holds.esp 1B fx_eye_candy_rings.esp 1C Ish's Souls to Perks.esp 1D Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-4.esp 1E Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - default.esp 1F Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-2.esp 20 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-3.esp 21 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-1.esp 22 MoreWar.esp 23 ribeable-broom.esp 24 Scouter.esp 25 ShootingStars.esp 26 skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp 27 smithingExtended.esp 28 SpaceWikingSpecialEffectFreyjaGems.esp 29 ZazResources.esp 2A Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 2B Footprints.esp 2C WetandCold.esp 2D SkyUI.esp 2E manny_Status.esp 2F AkavirisWeapons.esp 30 AliceMadnessReturnsVorpal.esp 31 AliceMadnessReturnsWeapons.esp 32 BDYEB.esp 33 Blade_of_Olympus.esp 34 Cattelya Greatsword.esp 35 Cerberus.esp 36 Chakram.esp 37 ChickenStaff.esp 38 CrainteVomir.esp 39 DBZBattleGloves.esp 3A Decapitation-spell-and-raise-skull-minions.esp 3B Demon Sword.esp 3C devilwithinGLOWYrune.esp 3D Dynasty Armor.esp 3E Energy Sword.esp 3F FFweapons.esp 40 Futa equippable.esp 41 getoverherebow.esp 42 Ghost Rider.esp 43 Gizmodian Silver Swords.esp 44 HanasSkeletonStaff.esp 45 Hell Sword.esp 46 HentaiCasualWears.esp 47 HentaiSuccubusArmor.esp 48 KCEAssaultRifles.esp 49 lilithsreaver.esp 4A lilithstools.esp 4B lolilabs.esp 4C Maliki.esp 4D mh3_mod.esp 4E monster_hunter.esp 4F NightmareByNausicaa.esp 50 Penis.esp 51 qsmweaponpack.esp 52 R18Pn - Inner Wear Set.esp 53 R18Pn - Fiona Armor.esp 54 Scythe Weapon mingyannu.esp 55 Space Wiking's The Elementals.esp 56 StrapOnbyaeonv1.1.esp 57 TERA Weapons.esp 58 throwingweapons.esp 59 throwing_weapons_leveledlists_plugin.esp 5A Throwing_Weapons_Misc_Plugin.esp 5B Throwing_Weapons_PerkTree_Plugin.esp 5C throwing_weapons_quiver_plugin.esp 5D Toad's Tera.esp 5E UniqueWeaponsRedone.esp 5F Warglaive of Azzinoth.esp 60 Xena.esp 61 Portal.esp 62 quest into the depths.esp 63 Run For Your Lives.esp [Version 1.2.2] 64 When Vampires Attack.esp [Version 1.0.2] 65 SarumansTower.esp 66 the asteria - dwemer airship.esp 67 The Fifth Gate.esp 68 whiteruntrees.esp 69 Bloodx10.esp 6A CleanArrowPlayer.esp ++ Fast Respawns And Rich Merchants.esp 6B getdrunk.esp 6C GloriousGrass PineForests.esp 6D GloriousGrass.esp 6E make inferno.esp 6F Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp 70 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp 71 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp 72 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp 73 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp 74 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp 75 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp 76 ClimatesOfTamriel-WinterEdition.esp 77 Artillery_DFA.esp 78 ASX_Spells.esp 79 Elementalist.esp 7A GriptzionTeleportMenuSpell_NODLC.esp 7B pjs_spell_compendium.esp 7C SwordDance.esp 7D traincall.esp 7E DBZmultidestructodisc.esp 7F FNISspells.esp 80 MagicDuelReborn - Shouts.esp 81 ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp 82 ASX_Potions.esp 83 The Dance of Death - Dawnguard Edition.esp 84 Auto Health, Magicka and Stamina.esp 85 Crimson Tide - Blood.esp 86 N_43 Hair Pack.esp 87 Glowing Eyes.esp 88 UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp 89 UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp 8A UFO - AllwaysDrawWeapons.esp 8B My Home Is Your Home.esp 8C Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp 8D Blaze Of Eventide.esp 8E DudestiaMultiMarriages.esp 8F NoNakedComments.esp 90 CharacterMakingExtender.esp 91 DeadlyMutilation.esp 92 EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp 93 Glowtastic.esp 94 Showermod.esp 95 WATER.esp 96 skyforge_map_marker.esp 97 FTFI Fast Travel From Indoors.esp 98 Bashed Patch, 0.esp 99 kailringswap.esp 9A kissemalleng.esp 9B masterpsiblade.esp 9C phasespells.esp 9D skyset.esp 9E squeaky.esp 9F Breezehomeexterior.esp A0 FastHorse.esp A1 Breezehome - Larger house in Whiterun.esp A2 RespawningBarrel.esp A3 RapidSpringsComplete.esp A4 IngotChest.esp A5 SlowMotionRing.esp A6 FourthRulerEntitySkyforge.esp A7 nobledress.esp A8 OvaTheRainbow.esp A9 Ice Gold Blade.esp AA CraftableUniquesJAX.esp AB my claymore.esp AC TreasureCrafting.esp AD war final swords.esp AE SOTT1HS.esp AF Kur0us_Amberstone.esp B0 SoulEater.esp B1 Soul eater.esp B2 SDmagic arrow.esp B3 Scythe Weapon mingyannuV20121226.esp B4 Phantasy Star Skyrim.esp B5 Magicka Sabers Crystal.esp B6 lilithseviscerator.esp B7 lollipop.esp B8 FierceDeitysSword.esp B9 Hidansscythe.esp BA Gunblade.esp BB Masamune.esp BC Starseeker.esp BD ExplosiveArrows.esp BE ClaimhSolais.esp BF Chaos ripper.esp C0 Bloodlust Bow.esp C1 BlazBlue.esp C2 craftable iron lockpicks.esp C3 Beautifulhair.esp C4 mortenhairs.esp C5 Silvan_Armor.esp C6 Hentai'sSerenityByNausicaaCBBE.esp C7 NewmillerCeremonialMageRobes.esp C8 ItRainedOn.esp C9 DartHairColorsAll.esp CA FAMP2.esp CB NakedArmor.esp CC the room.esp CD Berial's Sword.esp CE Lights Reach.esp CF Fencemod.esp D0 Eterna.esp D1 FariyAngel.esp D2 BLEED.esp D3 DBZMagc.esp D4 SenzuBeandbz.esp D5 Saiyanrace.esp D6 DBZKaioken.esp D7 DBZKiBlastAuto.esp D8 DbzKiBlast.esp D9 fall in solitude.esp DA FFX2.esp DB CarryMammoths.esp DC Amaterasu.esp DD Spell TomeKaboom.esp DE MeteoriteBlast.esp DF Soulfire.esp E0 SpellTome - Escape.esp E1 Summon Dragon Storm.esp E2 RLG_Trees.esp E3 Wet.esp E4 Better Cities, more Art..esp E5 BreezehomePenthouse.esp E6 thievesdoor.esp E7 CarryweightExtended.esp E8 Treasure caves.esp E9 Craftable Lockpicks.esp EA Better dual casting.esp EB Created_Chars.esp EC RaceMenu.esp ED RaceMenuPlugin.esp Papyrus. Log: I have been considering merging some of the mods into one esm/esp, but not exact;y sure of the process and waiting to fix my game first. EDIT: Nope seem to be getting CTD's. With similar errors. Link to comment
Ingun Black-Briar Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Well, that is a LONG list of mods, which doesn't make troubleshooting any easier. Sadly, Skyrim tends to randomly ruin savegames on its own accord even without mods, so tracking this down is all but impossible unless you were willing to start a fresh game without mods and play for a couple of in game days to observe the crashing. My guess would be that the Whiterun crashes are caused by one of the mods affecting the area, such as better cities or the breezehome mod. I would do the following: - remove all your items from breezehome storages and leave Whiterun, if you can, save - uninstall any mods that affect Whiterun. If they offer an uninstall routine or you use MM, use it to minimize loose files - test for at least a couple of in game days, fast travel to different locations, clear cell buffer, basically "sit it out", save - restart the game, load your last save and test Whiterun - if this doesn't work, continue to uninstall your mods as cleanly as possible - a radical uninstall of all mods will likely cause the game to crash as well so it's better to remove mods in small batches or one by one. Some saves will just remain fucked up no matter what, and sometimes the cause of crashes or corrupt savegames are mods that are not at all related to the areas causing those crashes. UFO, for example, caused weird behavior in my game. But it's not the same for everyone so if you want to attempt to keep your save ... good luck, man! Link to comment
RPGX_Omega Posted August 6, 2013 Author Share Posted August 6, 2013 *Sigh* This is already the 2nd or 3rd drawback I have had. I get tired of trying to constantly have to fix the game just to play it, then recollecting all that I have lost. I do not know why I keep having problems. These errors doesn't seem well known. I am going to be merging some of the mods I have. Maybe I will remove UFO. Another reason is I had to remake my character a few times now. Be nice if there was a way to save my character for use later or something. Link to comment
Groovtama Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 The errors you are getting is from adding and removing mods that have non determinating scripts attached to them. Ingun is a little bit right that skyrim itself sometimes ruins savegames but that is more of sloppy scripting, but for most scripts there are fixes, some by the unoffical fix team, some by steve-40. But your papyrus log mostly shows me removed mods and the orphan non determinating scripts. you can try to get an old save loaded and use the skse orphan script remove function, or what is likely you have to get a new game, to get a solid gameplay again. Link to comment
RPGX_Omega Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 I sort of got it working now w some random crashes still. Mostly due to errors. Sort of the same ones. I thought SKSE had some sort of script clean. I tried that and not sure if it helps or not. ClearInvalidRegistrations=1 SKSE.ini Trying to use save cleaner. But not sure how much it will help these annoying "leftover" scripts. Link to comment
MikeMetal Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Well, it's a hell of a mess in there. Unless you really want this save, the best thing to do is start another. Probably the most important rule in Skyrim modding is to be careful around script mods. Gone are the days when you simply delete the .esp/esm and the save is gone of scripts safe and sound. For start, I had ctds with enhanced blood textures (almost a year ago, never used it since) even after I removed the .esp but forgot to remove the scripts as well. The mod is script intensive and just not worth it if you ask me, you are far better with a simple blood retexture. Looking at your load order, it seems you no longer have it active or you uninstalled. In whatever case, the scripts are still in your script folder so try to take them out. At least papyrus won't bother anymore trying to find what to do with those scripts every second. Try download the mod again and check its scripts to know which ones to remove as I can't remember for sure. They should start with "zbleed.../zblood..." EDIT: I wish people stop confusing the save cleaner tool (perhaps the author should be more specific). It does NOT touches scripts in any way. It only resets actors or items back to their places, no scripts involvement. Link to comment
RPGX_Omega Posted September 1, 2013 Author Share Posted September 1, 2013 I had to goto an older save, Remove all scripts/reinstalls mods/use ClearInvalidRegistrations/use script removers/save cleaners before I got it to work again, but it has been working lately. My crashes were due to removed scripts I suppose. I shall close this topic. Link to comment
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