Sexlab Submit 01SEP14 1133

[dkatryl]

Hi dkatryl,

 

first things first: your mod is fantastic 

 

Lately I experienced some CTDs after consensual sex via Submit either when trying to save my game (all autosaves are disabled in my game by default) or sometimes by trying to talk to the sexpartner after the deed was done. Yeah I know, shouldn´t do this; why talk to someone you´re done with anyway

 

Didn´t happen if I changed cell (with loadscreen) before saving/talking to the former sexpartner, but that´s not really convenient if you are in the middle of a dungeon.

 

By the way, the forced conversation of the NPC "You´ve done well" (or something like that) and the raise in relationshiprank worked always as intended, the problem always ocurred shortly after.

 

Here is the last Entry in PapyrusLog before CTD happened:

 

 

 

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:14PM] SexLab: Making thread[0] [sslThreadController <alias ThreadView000 on quest SexLabQuestThreadSlots (0603CE6E)>]

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:14PM] SexLab: Slotting ActorSlot[0] with [Actor < (00000014)>]

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:15PM] SexLab: Slotting ActorSlot[1] with [Actor < (000B178F)>]

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:21PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: AnimationStart / AnimationStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:21PM] [zad] OnAnimationStart()

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:21PM] [zad] Quest is not currently restricting sex.

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:21PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:22PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:22PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: bandit got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:42PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:42PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:42PM] [lovershookutilscr <00_LoversHookUtil (1704390F)>]: Learned : AP Leg Up Fuck

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:42PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:49:05PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:49:05PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:49:05PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:49:29PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:49:29PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:49:30PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:49:31PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: AnimationChange / AnimationChange_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:49:46PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:49:46PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:49:46PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:10PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:11PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:11PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:21PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:21PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:22PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:23PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:23PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:23PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:24PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: bandit got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:26PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:26PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:27PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:46PM] [lovershookconfigscr <00_LoversHookConfig (170436E0)>]: trying to open settings page...

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:52PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:52PM] [lovershookutilscr <00_LoversHookUtil (1704390F)>]: Mirabelle victim level 0

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:52PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:52PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:58PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:58PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:59PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:51:02PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:51:03PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:51:03PM] [lovershookutilscr <00_LoversHookUtil (1704390F)>]: Learned : AP Cowgirl

[10/05/2013 - 12:51:03PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:51:25PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:51:25PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:51:26PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:51:50PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:51:50PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:51:51PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:52:17PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:52:17PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:52:17PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:52:44PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: OrgasmEnd / OrgasmEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:52:44PM] ERROR: Cannot access an element of a None array

stack:

    [sexLabSquirt (1B0012C8)].SexLabSquirt.ActorEndSquirt() - "sexlabsquirt.psc" Line 119

[10/05/2013 - 12:52:44PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: OrgasmStart / OrgasmStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:52:44PM] [zad] Quest is not currently restricting sex.

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:04PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: OrgasmEnd / OrgasmEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:04PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: AnimationEnd / AnimationEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:04PM] [zad] Quest is not currently restricting sex.

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:05PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Mirabelle lost -15 arousal after sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:05PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Dornenherz der Abgeschworenen lost -15 arousal after sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:06PM] SexLab: Clearing Actor Slot of [Actor < (000B178F)>]

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:06PM] SexLab: Clearing Actor Slot of [Actor < (00000014)>]

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:07PM] [slaCloakEffScr <Active effect 1 on  (000B1808)>]: Got +1 arousal to Forsworn by Mirabelle

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:15PM] ERROR: Array index 2 is out of range (0-1)

stack:

    [_SLSubmit (34001826)]._slsubmitscene.PostCoitalBliss() - "_SLSubmitScene.psc" Line 579

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:15PM] ERROR: Array index 2 is out of range (0-1)

stack:

    [_SLSubmit (34001826)]._slsubmitscene.PostCoitalBliss() - "_SLSubmitScene.psc" Line 568

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:15PM] ERROR: Array index 2 is out of range (0-1)

stack:

    [_SLSubmit (34001826)]._slsubmitscene.PostCoitalBliss() - "_SLSubmitScene.psc" Line 569

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:15PM] ERROR: Array index 2 is out of range (0-1)

stack:

    [_SLSubmit (34001826)]._slsubmitscene.PostCoitalBliss() - "_SLSubmitScene.psc" Line 570

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:15PM] ERROR: Array index 2 is out of range (0-1)

stack:

    [_SLSubmit (34001826)]._slsubmitscene.PostCoitalBliss() - "_SLSubmitScene.psc" Line 573

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:15PM] ERROR: Array index 2 is out of range (0-1)

stack:

    [_SLSubmit (34001826)]._slsubmitscene.PostCoitalBliss() - "_SLSubmitScene.psc" Line 574

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:15PM] ERROR: Array index 2 is out of range (0-1)

stack:

    [_SLSubmit (34001826)]._slsubmitscene.PostCoitalBliss() - "_SLSubmitScene.psc" Line 576

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:15PM] ERROR: Array index 2 is out of range (0-1)

stack:

    [_SLSubmit (34001826)]._slsubmitscene.PostCoitalBliss() - "_SLSubmitScene.psc" Line 577

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:15PM] ERROR: Array index 2 is out of range (0-1)

stack:

    [_SLSubmit (34001826)]._slsubmitscene.PostCoitalBliss() - "_SLSubmitScene.psc" Line 578

[10/05/2013 - 12:54:41PM] VM is freezing...

[10/05/2013 - 12:54:41PM] VM is frozen

 

 

The problem seems to appear only randomly, so I´m not sure if it´s just happening for me or if other people have the same issues.

 

If it helps, here is also my loadorder taken from BOSS

 

 

 

• Skyrim.esm Active
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• Dawnguard.esm
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• AzarHair.esm Active
• ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Active
• SexLab.esm Active
• SexLabAroused.esm Active
• HentaiPregnancy.esm Active
• ZaZAnimationPack.esm Active
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• HighResTexturePack03.esp Active
• Brawl Bugs CE.esp Active
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• TradeBarter.esp Active
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• bordersense.esp Active
• GuardsGuardThePlayer.esp Active
• LoversComfort.esp Active
• SexLabGuild.esp Active
• LoversHook.esp Active
• SexLabProcreation.esp Active
• Devious Devices - Chastity.esp Active
• SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp Active
• Convenient Horses.esp Active
  • Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
• auto unequip arrows.esp Active
• AutoSwimsuit.esp Active
• RaceMenu.esp Active
• RaceMenuPlugin.esp Active
  • Note: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.
• WetandCold.esp Active
• SkyUI.esp Active
• MF_RadiantProstitution.esp Active
• DemonHunterArmor.esp Active
  • Note: Be sure you have the correct version for the body type installed: DIMONIZED UNP female body or CBBE female body.
• DemonHunterV2armor.esp Active
  • Requires: CBBE female body.
• DemonHunter_Scarf.esp Active
• NewmillerElvenSniper.esp Active
• Remodeled Armor.esp Active
• Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp Active
• beginner's shack.esp
• Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable_NoDLC.esp Active
• OpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp Active
• HPSoulGemBirth.esp Active
• SC07SexLabRandomAttack.esp Active
• SexLabMatchMaker.esp Active
• SexLab Horny Followers.esp Active
• SexLab Romance.esp Active
• SexLab_MindControl.esp Active
• SexLab Solutions.esp Active
• SexLab Submit.esp Active
• zzLSAR_ArmorL.esp Active
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• change_children_to_adult.esp Active
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• RND_USKP-Patch.esp Active
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• FNISspells.esp Active
• lockpicksweetspot.esp Active
• Sniper.esp Active
• ZaZAnimationPackConfig.esp Active
• SexLabZaZAnimations.esp Active
• TemptressVixen.esp Active
• Slightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp Active
• no more butch females - vanilla.esp Active
• Amira.esp Active
• moon_deathstarbuild_secunda.esp Active
• Jagon.esp Active
• Arlana the Axe Maiden.esp Active
• Sylvia.esp Active
• Anna Valerious.esp Active
• Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Active

And here are the versions of the related mods:

SKSE 1.6.16

SexLab Framework 1.20

FNIS 4.0

Submit 30Sept13 2205

 

If you need any other informations to nail down the problem, please let me know.

 

Any help is really appreciated

Hrm, there were reports of similar several weeks ago, but I made a change that seemed to address the CTD's from that (I don't recall the exact reason, but it seemed to be only happen after they were Rank 1 or higher.) I was able to duplicate the issue, made the change, and no more CTD's, so I'm not sure why it would be doing so again.

 

I can try to take another look, make sure nothing is happening again on my end (This was all prior to 1.2, so maybe something happened there?  ) but otherwise I'm not sure what I can do.

 

Edit: Just took a look, and everything worked just fine.  Finished boinking her, talked to her, quick saved twice in a row, waited for the You've done well, quick saved again, no CTD.

 

There absolutely was a bug a few weeks ago that would CTD trying this, and I fixed it as near as I can tell.  Let me ask the obvious, are you using the current version, or an older version.  Similarly, have you done any custom tweaks of your own that would have had you extract the _SLSubmitScene script out of the .BSA?  If you did, loose scripts override .BSA's, which means you may have an older version that has the bugged stuff overriding.

 

If none of that is true, then I don't know, because it worked just fine for me. 

[dkatryl]

 

Yeh I went through the thread and couldn't find anything specificity related to me.  I guess I am unique

 

This is the first time I've used the mod and I installed it on a new game.  I have latest SEXLAB and FORES, Sanguine's debauchery and Prison overhaul isntalled as well.

 

I tried changing the hotkey and grapple is turned off.  I also then turned it on and grapple didn't work either.

 

Then, unfortunately, I am at a loss.  Everything is custom content, so there should be no conflicts with SD or any other mod, SL and FNIS are really only applicable to the sex parts, but the Hotkey is completely independent of all that, and should work pretty much right out of the box.

 

Last thing I can think of, which you may have already tried, is toggling the Mod Active MCM option off, going back to the game, hit the button a few times, go back to the MCM, toggle that option back on, try again.  Maybe for some silly reason, the flag was set false, and needed to get toggled true?

 

Admittedly, I'm grasping at straws, but, unfortunately, I don't know what else to suggest.  To my knowledge, most everyone else's experience is that it just works right off. 

[Fenderstat]

 

 

Yeh I went through the thread and couldn't find anything specificity related to me.  I guess I am unique

 

This is the first time I've used the mod and I installed it on a new game.  I have latest SEXLAB and FORES, Sanguine's debauchery and Prison overhaul isntalled as well.

 

I tried changing the hotkey and grapple is turned off.  I also then turned it on and grapple didn't work either.

 

Then, unfortunately, I am at a loss.  Everything is custom content, so there should be no conflicts with SD or any other mod, SL and FNIS are really only applicable to the sex parts, but the Hotkey is completely independent of all that, and should work pretty much right out of the box.

 

Last thing I can think of, which you may have already tried, is toggling the Mod Active MCM option off, going back to the game, hit the button a few times, go back to the MCM, toggle that option back on, try again.  Maybe for some silly reason, the flag was set false, and needed to get toggled true?

 

Admittedly, I'm grasping at straws, but, unfortunately, I don't know what else to suggest.  To my knowledge, most everyone else's experience is that it just works right off. 

 

 

Well that worked!  First let me say amazing mod and I truly appreciate the effort, I d/l it for the bounty turn in and it works great!  2nd bug, report, I get a CTD error when I try and get two bad guys at once to do the bounty turn in.  Are you aware of that?

 

I like the idea of turning in a cave full of bandits without killing them and getting money for it. 

[dkatryl]

 

 

Then, unfortunately, I am at a loss.  Everything is custom content, so there should be no conflicts with SD or any other mod, SL and FNIS are really only applicable to the sex parts, but the Hotkey is completely independent of all that, and should work pretty much right out of the box.

 

Last thing I can think of, which you may have already tried, is toggling the Mod Active MCM option off, going back to the game, hit the button a few times, go back to the MCM, toggle that option back on, try again.  Maybe for some silly reason, the flag was set false, and needed to get toggled true?

 

Admittedly, I'm grasping at straws, but, unfortunately, I don't know what else to suggest.  To my knowledge, most everyone else's experience is that it just works right off. 

 

 

Well that worked!  First let me say amazing mod and I truly appreciate the effort, I d/l it for the bounty turn in and it works great!  2nd bug, report, I get a CTD error when I try and get two bad guys at once to do the bounty turn in.  Are you aware of that?

 

I like the idea of turning in a cave full of bandits without killing them and getting money for it. 

 

It did?! I pulled that one so far out of my ass that I can't even come up with a colorful metaphor that isn't just a bad poop joke.

 

As to the CTD when doing a 2nd bounty setup, that's odd.  What it *should* do is simply make the second one assume the single Alias slot, removing the original one from the slot, and they would then resume whatever AI Package they originally had.

 

I haven't tested that recently (Last time was probably more or less back when I added the feature), but I've tested that in the past and that is how it responded.  I can definitely take another look.

 

Edit: Yep, jumped over to to Bleak Fallow, slapped two bandits down, made one my bounty, then made the other the bounty, the first one lost the Alias slot and went back to whatever, then remade the first one my bounty again, and the second one lost the Alias slot and went back to whatever.

 

So if you are getting a CTD, I'm not sure why, because I can't reproduce it.

[Totenbarg]

 

Hi dkatryl,

 

first things first: your mod is fantastic 

 

Lately I experienced some CTDs after consensual sex via Submit either when trying to save my game (all autosaves are disabled in my game by default) or sometimes by trying to talk to the sexpartner after the deed was done. Yeah I know, shouldn´t do this; why talk to someone you´re done with anyway

 

Didn´t happen if I changed cell (with loadscreen) before saving/talking to the former sexpartner, but that´s not really convenient if you are in the middle of a dungeon.

 

By the way, the forced conversation of the NPC "You´ve done well" (or something like that) and the raise in relationshiprank worked always as intended, the problem always ocurred shortly after.

 

Here is the last Entry in PapyrusLog before CTD happened:

 

 

 

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:14PM] SexLab: Making thread[0] [sslThreadController <alias ThreadView000 on quest SexLabQuestThreadSlots (0603CE6E)>]

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:14PM] SexLab: Slotting ActorSlot[0] with [Actor < (00000014)>]

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:15PM] SexLab: Slotting ActorSlot[1] with [Actor < (000B178F)>]

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:21PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: AnimationStart / AnimationStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:21PM] [zad] OnAnimationStart()

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:21PM] [zad] Quest is not currently restricting sex.

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:21PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:22PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:22PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: bandit got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:42PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:42PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:42PM] [lovershookutilscr <00_LoversHookUtil (1704390F)>]: Learned : AP Leg Up Fuck

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:42PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:49:05PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:49:05PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:49:05PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:49:29PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:49:29PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:49:30PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:49:31PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: AnimationChange / AnimationChange_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:49:46PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:49:46PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:49:46PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:10PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:11PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:11PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:21PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:21PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:22PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:23PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:23PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:23PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:24PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: bandit got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:26PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:26PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:27PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:46PM] [lovershookconfigscr <00_LoversHookConfig (170436E0)>]: trying to open settings page...

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:52PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:52PM] [lovershookutilscr <00_LoversHookUtil (1704390F)>]: Mirabelle victim level 0

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:52PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:52PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:58PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:58PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:59PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:51:02PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:51:03PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:51:03PM] [lovershookutilscr <00_LoversHookUtil (1704390F)>]: Learned : AP Cowgirl

[10/05/2013 - 12:51:03PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:51:25PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:51:25PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:51:26PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:51:50PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:51:50PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:51:51PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:52:17PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:52:17PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:52:17PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:52:44PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: OrgasmEnd / OrgasmEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:52:44PM] ERROR: Cannot access an element of a None array

stack:

    [sexLabSquirt (1B0012C8)].SexLabSquirt.ActorEndSquirt() - "sexlabsquirt.psc" Line 119

[10/05/2013 - 12:52:44PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: OrgasmStart / OrgasmStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:52:44PM] [zad] Quest is not currently restricting sex.

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:04PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: OrgasmEnd / OrgasmEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:04PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: AnimationEnd / AnimationEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:04PM] [zad] Quest is not currently restricting sex.

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:05PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Mirabelle lost -15 arousal after sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:05PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Dornenherz der Abgeschworenen lost -15 arousal after sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:06PM] SexLab: Clearing Actor Slot of [Actor < (000B178F)>]

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:06PM] SexLab: Clearing Actor Slot of [Actor < (00000014)>]

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:07PM] [slaCloakEffScr <Active effect 1 on  (000B1808)>]: Got +1 arousal to Forsworn by Mirabelle

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:15PM] ERROR: Array index 2 is out of range (0-1)

stack:

    [_SLSubmit (34001826)]._slsubmitscene.PostCoitalBliss() - "_SLSubmitScene.psc" Line 579

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:15PM] ERROR: Array index 2 is out of range (0-1)

stack:

    [_SLSubmit (34001826)]._slsubmitscene.PostCoitalBliss() - "_SLSubmitScene.psc" Line 568

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:15PM] ERROR: Array index 2 is out of range (0-1)

stack:

    [_SLSubmit (34001826)]._slsubmitscene.PostCoitalBliss() - "_SLSubmitScene.psc" Line 569

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:15PM] ERROR: Array index 2 is out of range (0-1)

stack:

    [_SLSubmit (34001826)]._slsubmitscene.PostCoitalBliss() - "_SLSubmitScene.psc" Line 570

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:15PM] ERROR: Array index 2 is out of range (0-1)

stack:

    [_SLSubmit (34001826)]._slsubmitscene.PostCoitalBliss() - "_SLSubmitScene.psc" Line 573

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:15PM] ERROR: Array index 2 is out of range (0-1)

stack:

    [_SLSubmit (34001826)]._slsubmitscene.PostCoitalBliss() - "_SLSubmitScene.psc" Line 574

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:15PM] ERROR: Array index 2 is out of range (0-1)

stack:

    [_SLSubmit (34001826)]._slsubmitscene.PostCoitalBliss() - "_SLSubmitScene.psc" Line 576

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:15PM] ERROR: Array index 2 is out of range (0-1)

stack:

    [_SLSubmit (34001826)]._slsubmitscene.PostCoitalBliss() - "_SLSubmitScene.psc" Line 577

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:15PM] ERROR: Array index 2 is out of range (0-1)

stack:

    [_SLSubmit (34001826)]._slsubmitscene.PostCoitalBliss() - "_SLSubmitScene.psc" Line 578

[10/05/2013 - 12:54:41PM] VM is freezing...

[10/05/2013 - 12:54:41PM] VM is frozen

 

 

The problem seems to appear only randomly, so I´m not sure if it´s just happening for me or if other people have the same issues.

 

If it helps, here is also my loadorder taken from BOSS

 

 

 

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And here are the versions of the related mods:

SKSE 1.6.16

SexLab Framework 1.20

FNIS 4.0

Submit 30Sept13 2205

 

If you need any other informations to nail down the problem, please let me know.

 

Any help is really appreciated

Hrm, there were reports of similar several weeks ago, but I made a change that seemed to address the CTD's from that (I don't recall the exact reason, but it seemed to be only happen after they were Rank 1 or higher.) I was able to duplicate the issue, made the change, and no more CTD's, so I'm not sure why it would be doing so again.

 

I can try to take another look, make sure nothing is happening again on my end (This was all prior to 1.2, so maybe something happened there?  ) but otherwise I'm not sure what I can do.

 

Edit: Just took a look, and everything worked just fine.  Finished boinking her, talked to her, quick saved twice in a row, waited for the You've done well, quick saved again, no CTD.

 

There absolutely was a bug a few weeks ago that would CTD trying this, and I fixed it as near as I can tell.  Let me ask the obvious, are you using the current version, or an older version.  Similarly, have you done any custom tweaks of your own that would have had you extract the _SLSubmitScene script out of the .BSA?  If you did, loose scripts override .BSA's, which means you may have an older version that has the bugged stuff overriding.

 

If none of that is true, then I don't know, because it worked just fine for me. 

 

 

Thanks for your response dkatryl,

 

to answer the obvious:

 

I use the current version, never had any previous version installed. Regarding the extraction of the scripts from the .BSA, I don´t have any clue how I would possibly do that    so the answer is no.

 

In the meantime I reinstalled Sexlab and Submit after a clean save and even started a new game, but unfortunately the problem is still there, CTD after consensual sex either when trying to save or after several rounds of sex without saving directly after the last "You´ve done well" comment.

I also tried some shuffling with the loadorder (following your hint from the OP to move submit right after SkyUI), but didn´t help either.

 

Changing cells (i.e. leaving or entering a building/dungeon) prevents the CTD and the game can be saved after the loadscreen ends.

 

As my little toon likes boinking her way through the entire room without leaving after each act, this is no solution for me and I´m afraid I have to deinstall Submit for now and give it another try later when (hopefully) the issues between SL framework, FNIS and the other SL Mods are sorted out

 

Anyway, thanks for your help, your great mod and keep developing it further

 

I´ll be back

 

[Sianama]

Hi dkatryl,

 

first things first: your mod is fantastic 

 

Lately I experienced some CTDs after consensual sex via Submit either when trying to save my game (all autosaves are disabled in my game by default) or sometimes by trying to talk to the sexpartner after the deed was done. Yeah I know, shouldn´t do this; why talk to someone you´re done with anyway

 

Didn´t happen if I changed cell (with loadscreen) before saving/talking to the former sexpartner, but that´s not really convenient if you are in the middle of a dungeon.

 

By the way, the forced conversation of the NPC "You´ve done well" (or something like that) and the raise in relationshiprank worked always as intended, the problem always ocurred shortly after.

 

Here is the last Entry in PapyrusLog before CTD happened:

 

 

 

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:14PM] SexLab: Making thread[0] [sslThreadController <alias ThreadView000 on quest SexLabQuestThreadSlots (0603CE6E)>]

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:14PM] SexLab: Slotting ActorSlot[0] with [Actor < (00000014)>]

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:15PM] SexLab: Slotting ActorSlot[1] with [Actor < (000B178F)>]

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:21PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: AnimationStart / AnimationStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:21PM] [zad] OnAnimationStart()

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:21PM] [zad] Quest is not currently restricting sex.

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:21PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:22PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:22PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: bandit got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:42PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:42PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:42PM] [lovershookutilscr <00_LoversHookUtil (1704390F)>]: Learned : AP Leg Up Fuck

[10/05/2013 - 12:48:42PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:49:05PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:49:05PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:49:05PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:49:29PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:49:29PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:49:30PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:49:31PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: AnimationChange / AnimationChange_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:49:46PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:49:46PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:49:46PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:10PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:11PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:11PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:21PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:21PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:22PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:23PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:23PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:23PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:24PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: bandit got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:26PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:26PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:27PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:46PM] [lovershookconfigscr <00_LoversHookConfig (170436E0)>]: trying to open settings page...

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:52PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:52PM] [lovershookutilscr <00_LoversHookUtil (1704390F)>]: Mirabelle victim level 0

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:52PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:52PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:58PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:58PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:50:59PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:51:02PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:51:03PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:51:03PM] [lovershookutilscr <00_LoversHookUtil (1704390F)>]: Learned : AP Cowgirl

[10/05/2013 - 12:51:03PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:51:25PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:51:25PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:51:26PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:51:50PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:51:50PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:51:51PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:52:17PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageEnd / StageEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:52:17PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: StageStart / StageStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:52:17PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Forsworn got +1 arousal by watching sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:52:44PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: OrgasmEnd / OrgasmEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:52:44PM] ERROR: Cannot access an element of a None array

stack:

    [sexLabSquirt (1B0012C8)].SexLabSquirt.ActorEndSquirt() - "sexlabsquirt.psc" Line 119

[10/05/2013 - 12:52:44PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: OrgasmStart / OrgasmStart_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:52:44PM] [zad] Quest is not currently restricting sex.

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:04PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: OrgasmEnd / OrgasmEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:04PM] SexLab Thread[0] ModEvent: AnimationEnd / AnimationEnd_PostCoitalBliss

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:04PM] [zad] Quest is not currently restricting sex.

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:05PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Mirabelle lost -15 arousal after sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:05PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (07042D62)>]: Dornenherz der Abgeschworenen lost -15 arousal after sex

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:06PM] SexLab: Clearing Actor Slot of [Actor < (000B178F)>]

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:06PM] SexLab: Clearing Actor Slot of [Actor < (00000014)>]

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:07PM] [slaCloakEffScr <Active effect 1 on  (000B1808)>]: Got +1 arousal to Forsworn by Mirabelle

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:15PM] ERROR: Array index 2 is out of range (0-1)

stack:

    [_SLSubmit (34001826)]._slsubmitscene.PostCoitalBliss() - "_SLSubmitScene.psc" Line 579

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:15PM] ERROR: Array index 2 is out of range (0-1)

stack:

    [_SLSubmit (34001826)]._slsubmitscene.PostCoitalBliss() - "_SLSubmitScene.psc" Line 568

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:15PM] ERROR: Array index 2 is out of range (0-1)

stack:

    [_SLSubmit (34001826)]._slsubmitscene.PostCoitalBliss() - "_SLSubmitScene.psc" Line 569

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:15PM] ERROR: Array index 2 is out of range (0-1)

stack:

    [_SLSubmit (34001826)]._slsubmitscene.PostCoitalBliss() - "_SLSubmitScene.psc" Line 570

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:15PM] ERROR: Array index 2 is out of range (0-1)

stack:

    [_SLSubmit (34001826)]._slsubmitscene.PostCoitalBliss() - "_SLSubmitScene.psc" Line 573

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:15PM] ERROR: Array index 2 is out of range (0-1)

stack:

    [_SLSubmit (34001826)]._slsubmitscene.PostCoitalBliss() - "_SLSubmitScene.psc" Line 574

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:15PM] ERROR: Array index 2 is out of range (0-1)

stack:

    [_SLSubmit (34001826)]._slsubmitscene.PostCoitalBliss() - "_SLSubmitScene.psc" Line 576

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:15PM] ERROR: Array index 2 is out of range (0-1)

stack:

    [_SLSubmit (34001826)]._slsubmitscene.PostCoitalBliss() - "_SLSubmitScene.psc" Line 577

[10/05/2013 - 12:53:15PM] ERROR: Array index 2 is out of range (0-1)

stack:

    [_SLSubmit (34001826)]._slsubmitscene.PostCoitalBliss() - "_SLSubmitScene.psc" Line 578

[10/05/2013 - 12:54:41PM] VM is freezing...

[10/05/2013 - 12:54:41PM] VM is frozen

 

 

The problem seems to appear only randomly, so I´m not sure if it´s just happening for me or if other people have the same issues.

 

If it helps, here is also my loadorder taken from BOSS

 

 

 

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  • Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
• auto unequip arrows.esp Active
• AutoSwimsuit.esp Active
• RaceMenu.esp Active
• RaceMenuPlugin.esp Active
  • Note: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.
• WetandCold.esp Active
• SkyUI.esp Active
• MF_RadiantProstitution.esp Active
• DemonHunterArmor.esp Active
  • Note: Be sure you have the correct version for the body type installed: DIMONIZED UNP female body or CBBE female body.
• DemonHunterV2armor.esp Active
  • Requires: CBBE female body.
• DemonHunter_Scarf.esp Active
• NewmillerElvenSniper.esp Active
• Remodeled Armor.esp Active
• Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp Active
• beginner's shack.esp
• Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable_NoDLC.esp Active
• OpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp Active
• HPSoulGemBirth.esp Active
• SC07SexLabRandomAttack.esp Active
• SexLabMatchMaker.esp Active
• SexLab Horny Followers.esp Active
• SexLab Romance.esp Active
• SexLab_MindControl.esp Active
• SexLab Solutions.esp Active
• SexLab Submit.esp Active
• zzLSAR_ArmorL.esp Active
• zzLSAR_Clothes.esp Active
• change_children_to_adult.esp Active
• Detailed Cities.esp Active
• RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
• RND_USKP-Patch.esp Active
  • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
• RND_Weight.esp Active
• dovahkiinrelax.esp Active
• FNISspells.esp Active
• lockpicksweetspot.esp Active
• Sniper.esp Active
• ZaZAnimationPackConfig.esp Active
• SexLabZaZAnimations.esp Active
• TemptressVixen.esp Active
• Slightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp Active
• no more butch females - vanilla.esp Active
• Amira.esp Active
• moon_deathstarbuild_secunda.esp Active
• Jagon.esp Active
• Arlana the Axe Maiden.esp Active
• Sylvia.esp Active
• Anna Valerious.esp Active
• Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Active

And here are the versions of the related mods:

SKSE 1.6.16

SexLab Framework 1.20

FNIS 4.0

Submit 30Sept13 2205

 

If you need any other informations to nail down the problem, please let me know.

 

Any help is really appreciated

 

I have the same issue. It doesn't always happen and usually it does not happen if I wait a few real time minutes before trying to save (or autosaving by leaving the building). But sometimes I just ctd during the "action", sometimes directly afterwards.

 

[Lyman the Lunatic]

Sadly I can't use this with SD anymore, lately it seems to always always interfere with the enslave mechanic. I used to run this 2 mods together because I feel it's interesting to see my char being turned to a play thing for a little while before she was collared. So for now, I just run them 1 at a time.

[germanicus]

dk - just to tell you that I have restore previous FNIS 4.0 beta, Sexlab 15.b and you previous update, as well as other related mods. Did, all necessary to make it work, cleaned all new files and traces, but the stupid game somehow remembered last updates and refuse to give option - "I gonna let my friend...(something). It didn't work. Then I installed even older versions of all mods, and it refused to work.  I DON'T saying that it is your fault. No. Just sharing with you my thoughts that the new FNIS, SEXLAB and ZaZ animations (which, by the way, doesn't want to reset at all regardless all instructions given in forum) screwed my game. I'm NOT blaming modders for this. I'm rather thankful for being good to us, serving brilliant mods that we can enjoy in playing. This is only information to you and others to be careful before install new mods unless all related mods are upgraded and tested to work under new version of FNIS and SEXlab. The only possible solution for me is to reinstall Skyrim. But I will not! Too tired to go through all process again. So, I will stick with this "crippled" version of playing.

 

This is not a critic to any of you wonderful guys.

[Toastman2]

I'm going to have to revert to 15b I think. Nothing is initiated dialogue and surrender sequences work but the animations are still non existent.. Everything is up to date on my system as well.

[dkatryl]

If sex animations don't work, that has nothing to do with Submit, and is purely a SL Framework vs a FNIS issue.  The only non-sex related animation that was legitimately affected in Submit was the IdleDefault animation that is used to abort killmoves, but, again, that wasn't the fault of Submit but a bugged beta of FNIS that, unfortunately, the Framework made use of for development and release of 1.2, which then introduced an entirely different set of issues.

 

The underlying FNIS issues have been fixed with the FNIS 4 release (no longer beta), and the SL Framework issues should be fixed shortly with the release of 1.21 (Ashal released a beta of 1.21 for adventurous people to test if they are struggling with things, or they can just wait a few days for the full release)

 

Beyond that, I am going to be implementing minor changes to Submit that utilize features that are only in the 1.2 Framework and onward.  I have no idea how it may work if it is used on the previous Framework versions (1.15b or older), and frankly, I don't care, because I won't be providing support for them.  If it works with just some minor papyrus log spam that can be ignored, so be it, if it doesn't work, then too bad.

[shinji72]

I've got 1.21, Fnis 4, and Submit works fine. I'm afraid there must be something wrong on your end.
This is intended to be constructive. Maybe you've got some mistake down the line. Maybe is something under your very eyes. 
Better try to make 1.21 work (the last patch fixes almost everything).

Updating and then reverting back the framework seems not a good solution. 

[germanicus]

dk & shinji - I'm not saying that submit mod was wrong. All I'm saying that it stopped to work after this to major updates. I love your mod dk - no complain.

 

I checked my mod list with every known toll I have and spent 6 hours to make it work, but, unsuccessfully. I'm not a modder, scripting is "alien language " to me, I'm not smart, but I know that none of those programs help my game to return to previous state. Nothing new was installed after that. So, thank you all for trying to help. Let me repeat - I'm not blaming anybody, especially not modders. You guys, are gods to me and I respect you. 

 

dk - I'm sorry if you understood that I complained on your mod. Not at all. It is my lack of knowing English. With my comment I wanted to tell you that I LIKE your mod very much but I was sad that three way sex interaction was gone from my game in submit mod. And it is NOT your fault. You are great guy, and I respect you.

[theskid]

dk & shinji - I'm not saying that submit mod was wrong. All I'm saying that it stopped to work after this to major updates. I love your mod dk - no complain.

 

I checked my mod list with every known toll I have and spent 6 hours to make it work, but, unsuccessfully. I'm not a modder, scripting is "alien language " to me, I'm not smart, but I know that none of those programs help my game to return to previous state. Nothing new was installed after that. So, thank you all for trying to help. Let me repeat - I'm not blaming anybody, especially not modders. You guys, are gods to me and I respect you. 

 

dk - I'm sorry if you understood that I complained on your mod. Not at all. It is my lack of knowing English. With my comment I wanted to tell you that I LIKE your mod very much but I was sad that three way sex interaction was gone from my game in submit mod. And it is NOT your fault. You are great guy, and I respect you.

 

This could be a sign of corrupted data or save files, wonky loose scripts and other issues skyrim(an other beth games too, but skyrim in particular is a bitch) has. I brute force it when this happens, you need to uninstall the game itself, and all mods, then reinstall from backups or fresh downloads. You can,t just revert back to old mods, you need to kill the whole install.

[germanicus]

thekid - thank you for advice. You see, that will be a forth time for me to reinstall the whole game, updates and mods. I don't have a "nerve" to do it. I'm tired of reinstalling the whole thing just because of new updated mods. This time I decided to wait with installation of new updated mods until they REALLY work.  I appreciate your help.

[dkatryl]

 

dk - I'm sorry if you understood that I complained on your mod. Not at all. It is my lack of knowing English. With my comment I wanted to tell you that I LIKE your mod very much but I was sad that three way sex interaction was gone from my game in submit mod. And it is NOT your fault. You are great guy, and I respect you.

I understood what you were saying, and didn't take what you were saying as an attack on the mod or anything.  My comments were more directed at the previous post, specifically that version 1.15b vs 1.2 vs 1.21 vs 1.x had no relevance to Submit as it stands in its current state, as Submit doesn't control sex animations.

 

It was also to serve as a more general statement and forewarning going forward that I would be making use of features that only exist in 1.2+, and would not entertain troubleshooting issues that might arise due to using an older version of the Framework (i.e. 1.15b etc).

 

In fact, I would probably already have updated, but my desktop's fans are acting up and have become really annoyingly loud, so I am using my box very little for the next week until next weekend when I have the time to go replace some parts.  (I'm writing this at work)

 

All I have done so far is a *VERY* crude proof-of-concept to try some of 1.2's new stuff, where I made a bandit victim not play the "undress" animation right before the sex, since they were already stripped due to Submit's looting.  But given that doing so requires a rewrite from the old StartSex() function, I didn't define the rest of the stuff in the new format, so everything else about it was wrong (Wrong, as in undefined, so was playing foreplay, consensual, etc)

[dkatryl]

thekid - thank you for advice. You see, that will be a forth time for me to reinstall the whole game, updates and mods. I don't have a "nerve" to do it. I'm tired of reinstalling the whole thing just because of new updated mods. This time I decided to wait with installation of new updated mods until they REALLY work.  I appreciate your help.

I've learned from my Oblivion days, and taking a break from the game for a while, came back months later, couldn't figure out what mod was breaking the game, opt to kill it with fire and start over.  And the irony is that Oblivion was actually far friendlier in some regards with the ability to do proper clean saves... .

 

So I have kept my Skyrim mod usage down to very little.  I run with only ~20-30 mods, and most of those are mostly cosmetic type ones with very little scripting involved.  While some mods on Nexus or here sound neat, I am wary about finding myself in a situation where everything is all FUBAR.  So I understand what you are saying perfectly well.

 

Another reason I have deliberately kept my mod usage down a bit was so that I had a chance to actually *play* the game instead of endlessly tinkering with shit.  I got Oblivion was it was brand new... it took me until *SKYRIM* was released for a few months for me to sit down and actually COMPLETE the main quest in Oblivion for the first time.  That's how bad it was!

 

Of course, what did I do but go and create my own? Yeah, I totally learned my lesson.

[germanicus]

dk - thank you for such a detail explanation. You see, since I don't know even terminology (having difficulty to remember most of terms because they are in English), all I could do is to list the mod updates that possibly could do something wrong to "submit " mod. I know that I didn't change anything on present mods. All went to hell after installing new FNIS and SexLab. Well, you are modder so if you and your colleges say that those two doesn't do anything to the present mod(s), I believe you. Something then went wrong in the game during the installation of those mods.

 

I'm sorry if I'm being the pain in your ass. Never intended to. I was just expressing my sadness that the favorite part of your mod is simply gone. Sorry for taking your time. I will bother you no more. Thank you for friendly attitude.

[Sianama]

Soo I tried again with Sexlab 1.21, completely new game, even new Skyrim installation.

Animations work fine, I ctd if I let the actors ragdoll at the end and I ctd if trying a hard save before leaving the cell, quicksave works fine (I don't usually quicksave, I just read it in your answer, so I thought I'd try it )

 

 

[dkatryl]

Soo I tried again with Sexlab 1.21, completely new game, even new Skyrim installation.

Animations work fine, I ctd if I let the actors ragdoll at the end and I ctd if trying a hard save before leaving the cell, quicksave works fine (I don't usually quicksave, I just read it in your answer, so I thought I'd try it )

CTD at the end of ragdoll is out of my scope, and that would be either a Framework or a FNIS issue.

 

The second part, hrm, well, I admit I didn't try a hardsave, only quicksaves, since I didn't figure that would matter.  Let me try a hard save and see what's up.

 

Edit: Okay, tested it, I did 4 hard saves in a row, back to back, slots 182, 183, 184, and then one after the "You've done well" which was 185.  No CTD's, worked just fine.

 

So, not sure why you are having the problem.

[Sianama]

 

Soo I tried again with Sexlab 1.21, completely new game, even new Skyrim installation.

Animations work fine, I ctd if I let the actors ragdoll at the end and I ctd if trying a hard save before leaving the cell, quicksave works fine (I don't usually quicksave, I just read it in your answer, so I thought I'd try it )

CTD at the end of ragdoll is out of my scope, and that would be either a Framework or a FNIS issue.

 

The second part, hrm, well, I admit I didn't try a hardsave, only quicksaves, since I didn't figure that would matter.  Let me try a hard save and see what's up.

 

Edit: Okay, tested it, I did 4 hard saves in a row, back to back, slots 182, 183, 184, and then one after the "You've done well" which was 185.  No CTD's, worked just fine.

 

So, not sure why you are having the problem.

 

 

Hmph^^ I had only your mod installed with the framework at the time. When I try other mods everything is fine, but none of the mods I saw have the same kind of dialogue options, you know chance af failure, getting people to like you and so on.

I guess I'll just decide to ignore the problem for now and go with quicksaves xD

[CGi]

There is actually no difference between a quicksave and manually saving thru the menu, as Bethesda stated, as both use the same mechanic, when it comes to gathering the data and writing the save game file. Only difference, is that the game pauses completly, when saving manually using the menu, as calling the menu simply pauses the game.

@Sianama: Did you create a BashedPatch and/or a merged patch? And if, did you re-create them, after adding/updating mods?

[hornyironhelmet]

Is this kind of thing possible?

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/17364-mod-ideas-plans-discussion/?p=534476

[dkatryl]

Is this kind of thing possible?

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/17364-mod-ideas-plans-discussion/?p=534476

For the most part, Submit is largely complete other than some minor revisions to the sex stuff to make use of a few of the 1.2 Framework additions, of which I will be doing in the near future.

[Sianama]

There is actually no difference between a quicksave and manually saving thru the menu, as Bethesda stated, as both use the same mechanic, when it comes to gathering the data and writing the save game file. Only difference, is that the game pauses completly, when saving manually using the menu, as calling the menu simply pauses the game.

 

@Sianama: Did you create a BashedPatch and/or a merged patch? And if, did you re-create them, after adding/updating mods?

 

No, I didn't, I don't know how to do that. I tried to give that a go once, but reading the manuals I was not entirely convinced that I'd even understand them if they were written in my native language, much less in English, so I gave up on it

 

Edit: sorry to bother you again, but I discovered something after the last ctd. I was not able to leave the cell, got a ctd every time I tried. I had a look at my savefiles and the quicksave left 4 saves: .bak, .ess.bak, .skse and one I never saw before: .tmp The "attempted" autosave upon leaving the cell afterwards left only a .tmp, no other save. That save does not show in the start menu (I cannot load it).

 

[Fenderstat]

 

 

 

Then, unfortunately, I am at a loss.  Everything is custom content, so there should be no conflicts with SD or any other mod, SL and FNIS are really only applicable to the sex parts, but the Hotkey is completely independent of all that, and should work pretty much right out of the box.

 

Last thing I can think of, which you may have already tried, is toggling the Mod Active MCM option off, going back to the game, hit the button a few times, go back to the MCM, toggle that option back on, try again.  Maybe for some silly reason, the flag was set false, and needed to get toggled true?

 

Admittedly, I'm grasping at straws, but, unfortunately, I don't know what else to suggest.  To my knowledge, most everyone else's experience is that it just works right off. 

 

 

Well that worked!  First let me say amazing mod and I truly appreciate the effort, I d/l it for the bounty turn in and it works great!  2nd bug, report, I get a CTD error when I try and get two bad guys at once to do the bounty turn in.  Are you aware of that?

 

I like the idea of turning in a cave full of bandits without killing them and getting money for it. 

 

It did?! I pulled that one so far out of my ass that I can't even come up with a colorful metaphor that isn't just a bad poop joke.

 

As to the CTD when doing a 2nd bounty setup, that's odd.  What it *should* do is simply make the second one assume the single Alias slot, removing the original one from the slot, and they would then resume whatever AI Package they originally had.

 

I haven't tested that recently (Last time was probably more or less back when I added the feature), but I've tested that in the past and that is how it responded.  I can definitely take another look.

 

Edit: Yep, jumped over to to Bleak Fallow, slapped two bandits down, made one my bounty, then made the other the bounty, the first one lost the Alias slot and went back to whatever, then remade the first one my bounty again, and the second one lost the Alias slot and went back to whatever.

 

So if you are getting a CTD, I'm not sure why, because I can't reproduce it.

 

 

Ok so I have narrowed down the CTD the following.  I capture someone, do the bounty, tell them to wait and then capture someone in a different location loading area (such as in a different dungeon)  and do the bounty thing.  CTD.

 

If I am in the same area I can capture as many bounty slaves as I want.  Every time I get a new slave the old one gets kicked out of the bounty routine and waits for me to go back to him.

 

A suggestion for the future would be multiple slaves, like a progression that you could lead at a time to save all the backwards and forwards of turning in bounties.