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After some time the Physics stop working.

 

Mod list is quite big:

 

 

Active Mod Files:
00  Skyrim.esm
01  Update.esm
02  Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.0a]
03  Dawnguard.esm
04  Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.0]
05  HearthFires.esm
06  Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.0]
07  Dragonborn.esm
08  Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.0]
09  ApachiiHair.esm
0A  ApachiiHairFemales.esm
0B  ApachiiHairMales.esm
0C  RaceCompatibility.esm
0D  Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
0E  ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
0F  hdtHighHeel.esm
10  JSwords.esm
11  Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
12  Lootification.esm
13  SGHairPackBase.esm
14  Solstheim Climate Overhaul.esm
15  SPIKE.esm
16  Xvision Children.esm
17  Xvision Children - Complete.esp
18  DSAMG - Miraak Music Fixes.esp
19  RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
1A  Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
1B  ADS.esp
1C  AOS.esp
1D  ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp
1E  Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
1F  AOS_ICS Patch.esp
20  Thundering Shouts.esp
21  fantasy music overhaul.esp
22  StaticMeshImprovementMod-PACK.esp
23  83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp
24  AMatterOfTime.esp  [Version 1.00]
25  Ars Metallica-PACK.esp
26  Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
27  Better Skill and Quest Books Names.esp
28  BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp
29  Dual Sheath Redux.esp
2A  DungeonQuestAwareness.esp
2B  EpisodeParallax.esp
2C  Immersive Battles.esp
2D  Immersive Brigands.esp
2E  Immersive Dawnguard.esp
2F  Immersive Dragonborn.esp
30  Immersive Factions.esp
31  Immersive Patrols.esp
32  Immersive Travelers.esp
33  Immersive Werewolves.esp
34  Lanterns Of Skyrim - CoT Nights lvl 8.esp
35  Long lost smelters by Hyralux.esp
36  manny Lantern Caretakers.esp
37  PilgrimsDelight.esp
38  Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp  [Version v6.1.3]
39  Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp  [Version v6.1.3]
++  Traps Make Noise.esp
3A  Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
3B  JSwords_Load_Screens.esp
3C  RaceMenu.esp
3D  RaceMenuPlugin.esp
3E  nem-e5i5's RaceMenuPlugin.esp
3F  RaceMenuOverlays.esp
40  SkyTweak.esp
41  vAutosaveManager.esp
42  SkyUI.esp
43  iHUD.esp
44  Customizable Camera.esp
45  MinimalHUD.esp
46  Akavari Katana Re_borne.esp
47  BDYEB.esp
48  BosmerArmorMATY743.esp
49  Bucklers-Complete.esp
4A  1nivWICCloaks.esp  [Version 2.3]
4B  Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN_LL.esp
4C  DragonBoneEbony_Replacer.esp
4D  ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp
++  FullBootForKKSA.esp
4E  hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
4F  Immersive Weapons.esp
50  imp_helm-PACK.esp
51  JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp
52  KatanaCrafting.esp
53  loners_sword.esp
54  Lore Weapon Expansion.esp  [Version 1.0]
55  Melt_Down_Everything.esp
56  Nicoroshi Creations.esp  [Version 1.2]
57  PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp
58  PrvtI_HeavyArmory_DG_Addon.esp
++  Sexy Armor Replacer Patch.esp
59  StormLord.esp
5A  UniqueWeaponsRedone.esp
5B  Unique Uniques.esp  [Version 1.5]
5C  Appeal Armors-PACK.esp
5D  Equip_Misc-PACK.esp
5E  Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp
5F  Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
++  Complete Crafting Overhaul_Dawnguard.esp
60  Complete Crafting Overhaul_Hearthfire.esp
61  Complete Crafting Overhaul_Dragonborn.esp
62  FMO.esp
63  Forge Menu Overhaul Smithing Experience Fix.esp
64  ERSO 02 - Enhanced Fauna and Monsters for Skyrim.esp
65  DeadlyDragons.esp
66  DSAMG - Greybeard Fix.esp
67  The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp  [Version 1.2.5]
68  Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp
69  BetterQuestObjectives.esp
6A  Book Covers Skyrim.esp
6B  Book Covers Dawnguard.esp
6C  Book Covers Hearthfire.esp
6D  BlockSparkles.esp
6E  AOS_BlockSparkles Patch.esp
6F  Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
70  WeaponsArmorFixes_GuardDialogueOverhaul_Patch.esp
71  Headtracking.esp
++  Proper Aiming.esp
++  SameWalkRunSpeedsLite.esp
72  Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp
73  SkyFalls Plus SkyMills - All DLC.esp
74  SFO_GOS_Grassification-PACK.esp
75  Convenient Horses.esp
76  dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
77  dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
78  dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
79  AOS_EBT Patch.esp
7A  Speed Revised.esp
7B  skyforgedWeapons.esp
7C  aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
7D  WeaponsArmorFixes_ambSkyforge_Patch.esp
7E  Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp
7F  Skyrim unleashed_npc.esp
80  Skyrim unleashed_Hardcore_npc_addon.esp
81  OBIS.esp
82  OBISDB.esp
83  EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
84  ELFX - NoBreezehome.esp
85  ELFX - Dawnguard.esp
86  ELFX - Dragonborn.esp
87  COT-PACK.esp
88  AOS_COT-DG Patch.esp
89  ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp
8A  Better Vampires.esp
8B  BFSEffects.esp
8C  Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp
8D  DeadlyCombat.esp
8E  DeadlyCombat_GiantsAIFix.esp
8F  Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
90  Dodge Mod.esp
91  The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
92  TKDodge.esp
93  Enhanced Soul Trap.esp
94  Soul Gems Differ - E.esp
95  PerkUP-PACK.esp
96  PerkUP-Archery.esp
97  PerkUP-TwoHanded.esp
98  dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
99  HeartBreaker.esp  [Version 2.0]
9A  AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp
9B  Cosmetic-PACK.esp
9C  Amanda.esp
9D  Bee_V.esp
9E  rk_Followers UNP.esp
9F  Tauriel.esp
A0  Mei.esp
A1  NPCs Redone.esp
A2  OtherFacelifts.esp
A3  ApachiiHairMarriageFollowersFacelifts.esp
A4  SBF All In One + DLC v1.7.esp
A5  Bijin Warmaidens UNP One esp.esp
A6  Frea.esp
A7  Aela.esp
A8  Delphine Makeover.esp
A9  Serana.esp
AA  Rayya.esp
AB  SylgjaSylvan1.esp
AC  AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
AD  BetterQuestObjectives-PACK.esp
AE  dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp
AF  CharGen Morphs.esp
B0  CharGen ECE Morphs.esp
B1  SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp  [Version 1.6]
B2  ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
B3  DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp
B4  ImpWeapEnchFX.esp
B5  RealisticWaterTwo.esp
B6  RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
B7  AOS_RWT Patch.esp
B8  AOS_ADS Patch.esp
B9  Xvision Children - USKP.esp
BA  Unique Region Names.esp  [Version 5]
BB  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
BC  Automatic Variants.esp
BD  LLI.esp
BE  Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
BF  EveryBody's Different.esp

 
Maybe mods that change the UI or add new menus:
Minimal HUD
Melt Down Everything 
iHUD
A Matter of Time
 
 
EDIt-----------
I can confirm that Melt Down Everything will stop the HDT dll.
 
Selecting "Finish item meltdown" will always stop HDT.
Either in the Tannin Hack or in the Smelter 

 

 

Yeah.

Melt Down Everything send a Close Loading Menu event without the Open one.
It makes my plugin confusing.
I think I should create my own menu opened list.
 
For all users.
Currently alt+tab will make some bad result(will be fine after cellchange or re-equip the object).
You can open either menu before that to avoid this issue.

I'm trying to fix that

 

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I checked log which HDT stop working after a while.  

 

Yes, there are many WARNING: Physics delta time > 0.2, lose time.  But I don't think it cause HDT to stop working.

 

Maybe it's the menu or something.  I save quite often to prevent any unexpect CTD. 

 

Edit: 11-16 version seem to work fine.

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Quick question, with the breast bones animating on 'auto-pilot', is there no need for animation replacers anymore?

Basically, i can just use the default ones that don't even have animations for those bones, and they still jiggle?

Do animations made for TBBP still animate as normal or does the havok-ing override all animation?

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Quick question, with the breast bones animating on 'auto-pilot', is there no need for animation replacers anymore?

Basically, i can just use the default ones that don't even have animations for those bones, and they still jiggle?

Do animations made for TBBP still animate as normal or does the havok-ing override all animation?

 

It all works quite well together, only in some cases do the two types of animation actually interfere. You are correct, there's no need to have any bbp/tbbp built into the animation, HDT will animate no matter what as long as the body supports bbp/tbbp.

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Can anybody guide me on how to enable the collisions of the breasts with the hands in this idle I've attached?

 

39526.gif

 

I have HDT installed correctly and the idle works fine, but the hands do not collide/interact with the breasts like in the gif. Are there any changes I need to do to enable this?

 

 

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Can anybody guide me on how to enable the collisions of the breasts with the hands in this idle I've attached?

 

39526.gif

 

I have HDT installed correctly and the idle works fine, but the hands do not collide/interact with the breasts like in the gif. Are there any changes I need to do to enable this?

 

have the same problem, edited ne female nifs but it doesn't work

 

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Do you edit all your meshes to enable hdtPE breast physics?

 

How exactly do you do this?

 

Using Nifscope, i tried right clicking on the 0 Ninode and selecting Block - Insert and then NiStringExtradData  -  from here i follow all the renaming instructions(making sure that the path matches the dir of the HDT.xml) and then in game I get nothing. Normal HDT works but no collisions.

 

If I re-do the process, except instead of selecting Block - Insert, I choose Node - Add Extra Data  -  and from here follow the renaming instructions, then in game I DO get collisions, but the trade off being the breasts have a mind of their own, moving and pointing in all sorts of crazy directions when not affected by collisions.

 

I wonder if anyone can tell me where I am going wrong.  Using 16-11 HDTphysics, custom bodyslide CBBE with t/bbp.

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Guys. I asked the plugin's author specifically, because i believe he's only one able to answer that question.
 
hellonow i think this .xml with collisions is only ok with the older version of the plugin, that is present in the first post. And you are probably trying to use it with the latest.

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Guys. I asked the plugin's author specifically, because i believe he's only one able to answer that question.

 

hellonow i think this .xml with collisions is only ok with the older version of the plugin, that is present in the first post. And you are probably trying to use it with the latest.

 

Ah I see - thanks Uriel.

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Can anybody guide me on how to enable the collisions of the breasts with the hands in this idle I've attached?

 

39526.gif

 

I have HDT installed correctly and the idle works fine, but the hands do not collide/interact with the breasts like in the gif. Are there any changes I need to do to enable this?

 

pls provide the download link for this idle, ty

 

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Second question.  Do you need to run this xml 'script' on every armor mod you want to be compatible?

Would it be easier or at least possible to run it once on the default naked body, then apply the havok info to the skeleton file, making it work for any armor with TBBP bones?

It just seems tedious to go through every armor and run this.  Maybe someone can write a script pack to run it on whole directories of armors.

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Quick guide on collision for boobs,

 

You'll need nifscope: http://niftools.sourceforge.net/wiki/NifSkope from downloads section

You'll need hdt.xml from here: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/10270-conversions-for-manga-body/

Idle pack: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/21287-what-mod-is-this-vi/?p=570201

Choose idle 01 and rename it appropriately to mt_idle.hkx, don't forget to backup your original mt_idle.hkx and put into the correct directory: Data\meshes\actors\character\animations\female

 

Using nifscope picture tutorial via s666: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/10270-conversions-for-manga-body/?p=566933

 

Another way shorted explained here from ballsy::

"To elaborate, you'll need to open femalebody_0 and femalebody_1.nif in nifskope, right click the body, select block -> insert -> Nis... -> NiStringExtraData. Note that it is not NiStringsExtraData.

 

Right click NiStringExtraData on the block list, copy branch, right click on NiNode on select paste branch. Delete the original NiStringExtraData by right clicking -> block -> remove. Click on the new NiStringExtraData and use ctrl + up to shift it to the first line right after 0 NiNode.

 

Go to block details after clicking on NiStringExtraData and click on the txt icon of Name. Type in HDT Havok Path

 

Now go to block details line 4, String Data and click the txt icon. Enter the path where you installed ledo's xml.  (eg Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdt.xml)

 

Click Save As... in nifskope and replace the original femalebody nif file. Same stuff goes for armors."

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this 11-16 version don't stop working on sex acts but i have ocasional boob and butt stretching (only on companions) when entering buildings, exiting buildings everything works fine, and again, animations with jiggling boobs make them crushed

I noticed other thing, at least on my game, the HDT dll is incompatible with nioverride.dll from race menu, I had to remove race menu to be able to enter the game

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