Nord Race has weird text bug and dollar signs in texts

[aonduine]

Just woke up to this a little while ago.. yesterday everything was running fine with mods, came back today, noticed mod menus had these in front of words...$... dollar signs... and lots of vowels had weird accent squiggly lines on top of them and it's only happening with the Nord race. From what I understand and from what NMM is telling me it's my ECE mod. I think it's a UI issue but all the SWF files are there and the in-game menus work, it's the text is glitched and the save and load options are greyed out so I can't even do that. Then I thought it was a Alternate Start: Live Live Another Life mod issue, but that runs just fine. I've done the whole rundown, reinstalled the mod, reinstalled the game itself, verified integ, LOOT'ed the for load orders, TES5Edit. All green lights, all come back fine load orders, and yet after all that, still have greyed out load/save options, still have dollar signs in the text and the only race that seems to have all these problems are the Nord options. When I test run with any other race I can save and load. Can someone please help?

[donttouchmethere]

4 hours ago, aonduine said:

From what I understand and from what NMM is telling me it's my ECE mod.

Your NMM version talks to you? What does it say ?

 

"Nord Race has weird text bug and dollar signs in texts"

On your screenshot you have some odd custom race selected and not nord. Does RM UI also fail if you choose a vanilla race?

 

4 hours ago, aonduine said:

ECE mod

ECE + RM aren't exactly what you could call compatible. Although they work together, but I don't remember the necessary steps. If you only need mesh and textures from ECE for a   preset or Race you could deactivate the ECE.esp and check how that goes.

 

4 hours ago, aonduine said:

TES5Edit

Did you check for odd language entries? If you have a language mod with another font it might overwrite RM UI.

 

4 hours ago, aonduine said:

and the in-game menus work

definitively sounds like you have some mod with an Russian or Asian front installed that overwrites RM.

 

Basically the odd text bug is another language font than the one your Skyrim is installed with.

Edited September 3, 2021 by donttouchmethere

[Grey Cloud]

That's a custom race not Nord and it is using a non-Latin based script (alphabet to you). Did you bother trying any of the other races such as Imperial or Wood Elf?

[aonduine]

The Nord race doesn't show up in the default selection where it's supposed to be which I think would be under the Khajiit and above the Orc, I don't have any custom race mod installed, never have, I've only played Nord. I only use ECE never used Race Menu, and this problem is brand new to me. In the picture it looks like what is supposed to be the Nord selection was pushed down to the bottom and the text associated with it looks like it's been corrupted. The thing is, this problem came out the blue, I was in Solstheim, saved the game, quit the game, went to bed and the next day I opened up Skyrim with my character presenting the weird text. Opened up the mod menu and everything listed began in dollar signs. Started a new game and took a screenshot of the change. What is weird however every other race that I've picked runs normally, no weird text no dollar signs and the save/load options are not inaccessible. I even went as far as using an earlier version of ECE to see if the files in the version I was using, were specifically bugged or corrupted...the same issue happens with the older ECE files. I went into the ECE interface TXT file and found it full of dollar signs...

 

 

## position    
# UpDown / InOut / BackForward    
    
## size    
# Size / Height / Width / Depth    

$CME_Hue    Hue
$CME_Saturation    Saturation
$CME_Value    Brightness
$CME_Alpha    Alpha
    
$CME_Zoom    Zoom
$CME_Light    Light
$CME_WaitMessage    Initializing... wait a few seconds.
$CME_Export    Export head
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$CME_Undo    Undo
$CME_Redo    Redo
    
$CME_Load    Slot Load
$CME_LoadName    Name Loading
$CME_HeadScale    Head Size
$CME_HeadUpDown    Neck Down
$CME_HandScale    Hand Size
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$CME_WaistScale    Waist Size
$CME_PlayerHeight    Height
    
$CME_Femalize    Femalize
$RANs_Weight    Face Roundness
$RANs_Age    Age
    
$CME_FaceUpDown    ForeHead Down
$RANs_FaceWidth    Face Width
$RANs_FaceHight    Face Length
$RANs_FaceBackForward    Face Forward
$RANs_FaceDepth    Face Depth
$CME_ForeheadFix    ForeheadFix
$CME_NeckSize    Neck Width
    
$CME_CheeksUpDown    Cheekbone Height
$CME_CheeksBoneInOut    Cheekbone Width
$CME_CheeksWidth    Cheek Width
$CME_CheeksBlow    Cheek Roundness
$RANs_Lawsline    Laugh Lines
    
$CME_JawWidth    Jaw Width
$CME_JawUpDown    Jaw Height
$CME_JawBackForward    Jaw Forward
    
$CME_ChinWidth    Chin Width
$CME_ChinUpDown    Chin Length
$CME_ChinBackForward    Chin Forward
$ECE_ChinBackForward    Chin Jutting
$CME_UnderChinSlope    Chin Depth
    
$CME_EyesType    Eye Shape
$CME_EyesSize    Eye Size
$CME_EyesHeight    Eyelid Height
$CME_UpperEyesHeight    Upper Eyelid Height
$RANs_UpperEyelidShape    Upper Eyelid Shape
$CME_LowerEyesHeight    Lower Eyelid Height
$RANs_UnderEyelidShape    Lower Eyelid Shape
$RANs_Eyebags    Eyebags Scale
$RANs_EyebagsShape    Eyebags Shape
$CME_EyesSlope    Eye Rotate
$RANs_MedialCanthusHeight    Inner Canthus Height
$RANs_MedialCanthusInOut    Inner Canthus Length
$RANs_LateralCanthusHeight    Outer Canthus Height
$RANs_LateralCanthusInOut    Outer Canthus Length
$CME_EyeballSize    Iris Size
$CME_EyeballInOut    Iris Place
$CME_EyeballUpDown    Iris Height
$CME_EyelashLength    Eyelash Length
$CME_EyesUpDown    Eyes Height
$CME_WholeEyesUpDown    Whole Eyes Height
$CME_EyesInOut    Eye Width
$RANs_EyeWidth    Eyelid Length
$CME_EyesBackForward    Eye Depth
    
$RANs_BrowThickness    Eyebrow Thickness
$CME_BlowSlope    Eyebrow Slope
$CME_BlowArch    Eyebrow Arching
$CME_BlowUpDown    Brow Height
$CME_BlowInOut    Brow Width
$RANs_IEofBrowsUpDown    Eyebrow Head Height
$RANs_IEofBrowsInOut    Eyebrow Head Length
$RANs_OEofBrowsUpDown    Eyebrow Tail Height
$RANs_OEofBrowsInOut    Eyebrow Tail Length
$RANs_OEofBrowsInfration    Brow Bone Inflation
$CME_BlowBackForward    Brow Forward
$RANs_ForeheadBackForward    Forehead Forward
    
$CME_Nose    Nose
$CME_NoseType    Nose Type
$CME_NoseUpDown    Nose Height
$CME_NoseLength    Nose Length
$CME_NoseBackForward    Nose Forward
$ECE_NoseBridgeWidth    Nosebridge Width
$ECE_NoseTipWidth    Wings of Nose Width
$RANs_NoseTopSize    Nose Tip Size
$RANs_NoseTipSizeZ    Wings of Nose Size(Z)
$RANs_NoseTipUpDown    Wings of Nose Height
$RANs_NoseTipUpDownward    Wings of Nose Up Down(X)
$RANs_NoseTipOpenClose    Wings of Nose Open Close(Y)
$RANs_NostrilsSize    Nostrils Size
$CME_NoseHoleSlope    Nose Tip Slope
$CME_NoseSellionBackForward    Nose Sellion Depth
$CME_NoseSellionUpDown    Nose Sellion Height
$CME_NoseSellionWidth    Nose Sellion Width
$RANs_NoseRidgeShape    Nose Bridge Depth
$CME_AroundNoseBackForward    Nose Region Convex
    
$CME_LipType    Mouth Shape
$RANs_LipDuckly    Lip Pouting
$RANs_UpperLipShape    Upper Lip Shape
$RANs_LowerLipShape    Lower Lip Shape
$CME_MouthWidth    Mouth Width
$CME_MouthHeight    Mouth Size
$CME_UpperLipHeight    Upper Lip Size
$CME_LowerLipHeight    Lower Lip Size
$CME_MouthCornaerUpDown    Lip Tilt Up
$CME_MouthCornerBackForward    Dimple Depth
$CME_MouthUpDown    Mouth Height
$CME_MouthBackForward    Mouth Forward
$RANs_OcclusionInOut    Dental Bite Forward
    
$ECE_Ears    Ears
$CME_ElfEar    Elf Ear
$CME_EarUpDown    Ear Height
$ECE_EarShape    Ear Shape
$ECE_EarSize    Ear Size
    
$ECE_MakeUP    Makeup
    
$CME_RaceShape    RacialTrait
$CME_Nord    Nord
$CME_Breton    Breton
$CME_Imperial    Imperial
$CME_Redguard    Redguard
$CME_WoodElf    Wood Elf
$CME_DarkElf    Dark Elf
$CME_HighElf    High Elf
$ECE_Orc    Orc
    
$CME_Expression    Expression
    
$CME_VertexEdit    VertexEditor
$CME_Vertex    Vertex
$CME_VertexX    X
$CME_VertexY    Y
$CME_VertexZ    Z
$CME_VertexMirror    [ON] MirrorEdit [OFF]
$CME_VertexLine    Grid
$CME_VertexReset    Reset
$CME_VertexArea    Vertex Area
$CME_VertexAreaType0    Cubic InterPolation
$CME_VertexAreaType1    Linear Interpolation
$CME_VertexAreaType2    Flat Interpolation
$CME_StopMotion    [Off] Stop Animation [On]
    
$CME_PalmThickness    Palm Thickness
$CME_ThumbThickness    Thumb Thickness
$CME_IndexThickness    Index Finger Thickness
$CME_MiddleThickness    Middle Finger Thickness
$CME_RingThickness    Ring Finger Thickness
$CME_PinkyThickness    Pinky Finger Thickness
    
#Start of ECE-MBS slidernames    
    
$CME_Clavicles    Shoulder Scale
$CME_UpperArms    Upper Arm Scale
$CME_UpperArmtwist1    Upper Arm Twist 1
$CME_UpperArmtwist2    Upper Arm Twist 2
$CME_ForeArms    Forearm Scale
$CME_ForearmTwist1    Forearm Twist 1
$CME_ForearmTwist2    Forearm Twist 2
$CME_Spine2    Upper Torso Scale
$CME_Spine2Z    Upper Torso Height
$CME_Spine2Y    Upper Torso Forward/Back
$CME_MidTorso    Mid-Torso Scale
$CME_Spine1Z    Mid-Torso Height
$CME_Spine1Y    Mid-Torso Forward/Back
$CME_Spine0    Lower Torso Scale
$CME_Spine0Z    Lower Torso Height
$CME_Spine0Y    Lower Torso Forward/Back
$CME_PelvicScale    Pelvic Scale
$CME_Thighs    Thighs Scale
$CME_ThighZ    Thighs Height
$CME_ThighY    Thighs Forward/Back
$CME_ThighX    Thighs Spacing
$CME_ThighBulk    Thighs Bulk
$CME_Calves    Calves Scale
$CME_CalfZ    Calves Height
$CME_CalfY    Calves Forward/Back
$CME_CalfX    Calves Spacing
$CME_CalfBulk    Calves Bulk
$CME_Feet    Feet Scale
$CME_Toes    Toe Scale
    
$CME_FeetZ    Feet Height
$CME_LegLength    Leg Length
    
$CME_HeadForward    Head Forward/Back
$CME_ClavZ    Shoulders Up/Down
$CME_ClavY    Shoulders Forward/Back
$CME_ClavX    Shoulders Spacing
$CME_UpperArmZ    *Upperarm Height/Length
$CME_UpperArmY    *Upperarm Y Correction
$CME_UpperArmX    *Upperarm X Correction
$CME_UpperArmTwistZ    Upperarm Muscle Height
$CME_ForeArmLength    Forearm Length
$CME_ForeArmZ    *Forearm Height/Length
$CME_ForeArmY    *Forearm Y Correction
$CME_ForeArmX    *Forearm X Correction
$CME_ForearmTwistZ    Wrist Height/Position
$CME_KnuckleScale    Knuckle Scale
$CME_KnuckleZ    Knuckle Length
$CME_InterPhalangeScale    Root of Finger Scale
$CME_InterPhalangeZ    Root of Finger Length
$CME_DistPhalangeScale    Tip of Finger Scale
$CME_DistPhalangeZ    Tip of Finger Length
$CME_PinkyPosition    Pinky Position X
    
$CME_breastrootz    Breast Height (Root)
$CME_breastrooty    Breast Forward/Back (Root)
$CME_breastrootx    Breast Spacing (Root)
$CME_breast01z    Breast Height (01)
$CME_breast01y    Breast Forward/Back (01)
$CME_breast01x    Breast Spacing (01)
    
$CME_buttrootz    Butt Height
$CME_buttrooty    Butt Forward/Back
$CME_buttrootx    Butt Cheek Spacing
    
$CME_MainHand    R Hand Equip Scale
$CME_WeaponX    R Hand Equip X
$CME_WeaponY    R Hand Equip Y
$CME_WeaponZ    R Hand Equip Z
    
$CME_RMagScale    Right Magic Scale
$CME_RMagX    Right Magic X
$CME_RMagY    Right Magic Y
$CME_RMagZ    Right Magic Z
    
$CME_OffHand    L Hand Equip Scale
$CME_ShieldX    L Hand Equip X
$CME_ShieldY    L Hand Equip Y
$CME_ShieldZ    L Hand Equip Z
    
$CME_LMagScale    Left Magic Scale
$CME_LMagX    Left Magic X
$CME_LMagY    Left Magic Y
$CME_LMagZ    Left Magic Z
    
$CME_BodyScale    Height (Centre of Mass)
$CME_RootX    Body Position X
$CME_RootY    Body Position Y
$CME_RootZ    Body Position Z
    
$CME_HairScale    Hair Scale
$CME_HairX    Hair Left/Right
$CME_HairY    Hair Forward/Back
$CME_HairZ    Hair Height
    
$CME_PlayerHeightSS    Height (Skeletal)
$CME_PlayerHeight    Height (SetScale)
    
##End of ECE-MBS slidernames    
    
##Start of XPMSE slidernames    
    
$CME_TailPositionX    Tail Position X
$CME_TailPositionY    Tail Position Y
$CME_TailPositionZ    Tail Position Z
$CME_TailNode1    Tail Node 1 Scale
$CME_TailNode2    Tail Node 2 Scale
$CME_TailNode3    Tail Node 3 Scale
$CME_TailNode4    Tail Node 4 Scale
$CME_TailNode5    Tail Node 5 Scale
$CME_TailNode6    Tail Node 6 Scale
$CME_TailNode7    Tail Node 7 Scale
$CME_TailNode8    Tail Node 8 Scale
$CME_TailScale1    Tail Node 1 (Only) Scale
$CME_TailScale2    Tail Node 2 (Only) Scale
$CME_TailScale3    Tail Node 3 (Only) Scale
$CME_TailScale4    Tail Node 4 (Only) Scale
$CME_TailScale5    Tail Node 5 (Only) Scale
$CME_TailScale6    Tail Node 6 (Only) Scale
$CME_TailScale7    Tail Node 7 (Only) Scale
$CME_TailScale8    Tail Node 8 (Only) Scale
    
$CME_ShoulderScale    Shoulder Ratio
$CME_BreastScale    Breast Scale
$CME_BreastScaleL    Breast Scale L
$CME_BreastScaleR    Breast Scale R
$CME_BreastScaleTweak    Breast Scale Tweak
$CME_Breast01ScaleTweak    Breast01 Scale Tweak
$CME_Breast01ScaleTweakL    Breast01 Scale Tweak L
$CME_Breast01ScaleTweakR    Breast01 Scale Tweak R
$CME_ButtScale    Butt Scale
$CME_ButtScaleL    Butt Scale L
$CME_ButtScaleR    Butt Scale R
$CME_BowQuiver    Quiver Scale
    
$CME_WeaponsScale    WeaponScale
$CME_OverallWeaponsScale    Overall Weapon Scale
$CME_Axe    Axe Scale (Main)
$CME_AxeLeft    Axe Scale (Off)
$CME_Mace    Mace Scale (Main)
$CME_MaceLeft    Mace Scale (Off)
$CME_Sword    Sword Scale (Main)
$CME_SwordLeft    Sword Scale (Off)
$CME_Dagger    Dagger Scale (Main)
$CME_DaggerLeft    Dagger Scale (Off)
$CME_WeaponOnBack    Weapon on Back Scale
$CME_ShieldOnBack    Shield on Back Scale
$CME_Staff    Staff Scale (Main)
$CME_StaffLeft    Staff Scale (Off)
    
$CME_Bow    Bow Scale (Main)
$CME_Quiver    Quiver Scale (Off)
$CME_Bolt    Bolt Scale (Off)
    
$CME_AxePositionX    Axe Sheath X
$CME_AxePositionY    Axe Sheath Y
$CME_AxePositionZ    Axe Sheath Z
$CME_AxeLeftPositionX    Axe Sheath Left X
$CME_AxeLeftPositionY    Axe Sheath Left Y
$CME_AxeLeftPositionZ    Axe Sheath Left Z
    
$CME_MacePositionX    Mace Sheath X
$CME_MacePositionY    Mace Sheath Y
$CME_MacePositionZ    Mace Sheath Z
$CME_MaceLeftPositionX    Mace Sheath Left X
$CME_MaceLeftPositionY    Mace Sheath Left Y
$CME_MaceLeftPositionZ    Mace Sheath Left Z
    
$CME_SwordPositionX    Sword Sheath X
$CME_SwordPositionY    Sword Sheath Y
$CME_SwordPositionZ    Sword Sheath Z
$CME_SwordLeftPositionX    Sword Sheath Left X
$CME_SwordLeftPositionY    Sword Sheath Left Y
$CME_SwordLeftPositionZ    Sword Sheath Left Z
    
$CME_DaggerPositionX    Dagger Sheath X
$CME_DaggerPositionY    Dagger Sheath Y
$CME_DaggerPositionZ    Dagger Sheath Z
$CME_DaggerLeftPositionX    Dagger Sheath Left X
$CME_DaggerLeftPositionY    Dagger Sheath Left Y
$CME_DaggerLeftPositionZ    Dagger Sheath Left Z
    
$CME_WeaponOnBackPositionX    Weapon on Back Sheath X
$CME_WeaponOnBackPositionY    Weapon on Back Sheath Y
$CME_WeaponOnBackPositionZ    Weapon on Back Sheath Z
    
$CME_ShieldOnBackPositionX    Shield on Back X
$CME_ShieldOnBackPositionY    Shield on Back Y
$CME_ShieldOnBackPositionZ    Shield on Back Z
    
$CME_StaffPositionX    Staff Sheath X
$CME_StaffPositionY    Staff Sheath Y
$CME_StaffPositionZ    Staff Sheath Z
$CME_StaffLeftPositionX    Staff Sheath Left X
$CME_StaffLeftPositionY    Staff Sheath Left Y
$CME_StaffLeftPositionZ    Staff Sheath Left Z
    
$CME_BowPositionX    Bow Position X
$CME_BowPositionY    Bow Position Y
$CME_BowPositionZ    Bow Position Z
    
$CME_QuiverPositionX    Quiver Position X
$CME_QuiverPositionY    Quiver Position Y
$CME_QuiverPositionZ    Quiver Position Z
    
$CME_BoltPositionX    Bolt Position X
$CME_BoltPositionY    Bolt Position Y
$CME_BoltPositionZ    Bolt Position Z
    
$CME_BoltQuiverPositionX    Aesthetic Bolt Quiver Position X
$CME_BoltQuiverPositionY    Aesthetic Bolt Quiver Position Y
$CME_BoltQuiverPositionZ    Aesthetic Bolt Quiver Position Z
    
$CME_WeaponOnBackAxePositionX    Axe on Back Sheath X
$CME_WeaponOnBackAxePositionY    Axe on Back Sheath Y
$CME_WeaponOnBackAxePositionZ    Axe on Back Sheath Z
    
$CME_CrossBowPositionX    Crossbow Position X
$CME_CrossBowPositionY    Crossbow Position Y
$CME_CrossBowPositionZ    Crossbow Position Z
    
##End of XPMSE slider names    
    
$RANs_Arms    Arms/Hands
$RANs_Legs    Legs
$RANs_Breast    Breast
$RANs_Butt    Butt/Tail
$RANs_Tail    Tail
$RANs_Weapon    Weapons

 

In all the translation files it's the same thing as well but I don't have any mods or plugins for translations then i went into my SKSE plugins folder and found the TXT file and this happened...

 

 

skse_ExCharGen_plugin
load
Load ini: data\Meshes\CharacterMakingExtender\commontriraces\mbs_humanraces_slider.ini
Load ini: data\Meshes\CharacterMakingExtender\commontriraces\mbs_orcraces_slider.ini
Load ini: data\Meshes\CharacterMakingExtender\commontriraces\mbs_elfraces_slider.ini
Load ini: data\Meshes\CharacterMakingExtender\commontriraces\mbs_defaultraces_slider.ini
Load ini: data\Meshes\CharacterMakingExtender\commontriraces\unsupportedraces_slider.ini
match race: Íîðä
info: cache tri, check start.
info: cache tri, success.
info: replace morph on memory, check start.
info: replace morph on memory, success.

 

 

match race: Íîðä

 

Could the Nord race been damaged somehow? I just booted up NMM and an error pops up

 

"Mod loading error

Error loading the following mods: E:\Games\Nexus Mod Manager\Skyrim\Mods\Enhanced Character Edit 15-12951-1-50.7z"

 

 

Ithink the problem lies in the ECE mod itself for some reason NMM loads that particular mod slower than usual now, doesn't matter if it's a reload or a brand new load using a brand new copy I download. At the very least I know that the issue is ECE now.

 

Edited September 3, 2021 by aonduine

[jlttsmiley30]

JUST TRYING TO HELP:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/36801

[Grey Cloud]

Use spoiler tags rather than paste a mile of text.

 

Try deactivating (not uninstalling) the CME esp.

 

If that doesn't work then uninstall ECE completely.

[aonduine]

7 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

Use spoiler tags rather than paste a mile of text.

 

Try deactivating (not uninstalling) the CME esp.

 

If that doesn't work then uninstall ECE completely.

so tried deactivating the esp in the load order booted up and this happened...

I'll continue to work on this to see if I can find a fix but until then I'll try out another race to see if the problem extends to them as well.. at least we discovered that it was ECE causing the issue and isn't still a mystery. And jlttsmiley30 I'll download the mod you suggested, see if it fixes the issue.

[Grey Cloud]

23 minutes ago, aonduine said:

And jlttsmiley30 I'll download the mod you suggested, see if it fixes the issue.

Pointless. First, installing another mod when you have a problem is seldom the way forward. Second, ECE can and does work with RM (I've done it myself in the past).

Whatever your problem is it is something you have done or not done. So you need to decide whether ECE is worth all this hassle and either bin it or re-check the info on what you have to do.