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15 hours ago, Villianize said:

You know what. I was worried I was messing up, but now I know not only was I not, having this new understanding of how the mod works makes me love it even more xD

Thank you so much :D

 

One of the downside of this system is that if you are mean to your slave they will get shocked again and it might take time before they get broken again, going again through the whole mind process...

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Side Question: Any chance there could be a function for Master's to tell the slaves to Hide during combat? similar to the flee from combat effect. Im not sure of other players, but Im confident that a sizeable amount of folks have slaves with them that they don't want to participate in combat. Be it theyre too weak, theyre just there for sex, or the more common reason I find in my experience being, if a slave is toggled not to fight, they'll constantly sneak up to you while your trying to fight, and you end up beating the hell out of your slave thus making the training process a bit trickier [You end up punishing your slave since your fighting a group of bandits swinging a greatsword, and have to constantly worry about where they are amidst a battle]

I mean I guess it could be something of an affectionate command like "I want you to stay safe if there's a battle" thus increasing the slaves love for the player. What are your thoughts on that?

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3 hours ago, Villianize said:

I mean I guess it could be something of an affectionate command like "I want you to stay safe if there's a battle" thus increasing the slaves love for the player. What are your thoughts on that?

I'd be in favor of something like that too.

 

I use realistic carry weight mods, so I often have a backpack slave that carries all the random stuff I find. What I've been doing up to this point is just telling a slave to wait near the entrance to a dungeon, then I clear it and pick her up on the way out. However that doesn't help you if you get surprise attacked outside.

I've come down on a slave with a two-handed power attack on accident more than a few times I'm very sorry to say...

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7 hours ago, InsanityFactor said:

I'd be in favor of something like that too.

 

I use realistic carry weight mods, so I often have a backpack slave that carries all the random stuff I find. What I've been doing up to this point is just telling a slave to wait near the entrance to a dungeon, then I clear it and pick her up on the way out. However that doesn't help you if you get surprise attacked outside.

I've come down on a slave with a two-handed power attack on accident more than a few times I'm very sorry to say...

Not a bad idea, but I have no idea how to implement it. Is there any follower mod with this feature, we could get inspiration from?

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2 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

Not a bad idea, but I have no idea how to implement it. Is there any follower mod with this feature, we could get inspiration from?

Hmmm not sure. Maybe it could be something simple like when they see you get in combat, they do the sneak animation like they already do, but then they just stay in place wherever they are when combat starts until it's over. That way they aren't following you awkwardly and getting in the way, and you know where they are. You would know better than me, but I would imagine (hope) that would be a relatively simple thing to change, just adding a standstill thing to the preexisting slave behavior for when the player gets into combat.

 

By the way ;) 

~~~New Idea for Punishment~~~  

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I know you already have plenty of things on your to-do list, but since you seem to have mastered adding and removing SlaveTats via certain conditions, maybe you'd consider utilizing Collygon Wounds with some conditions so we can see slaves get 'damaged' and heal over time? What I imagine (let me know if this is feasible) is that you could have this mod detect if you're hitting the slave with just your fists, and if you are, then each punch has a chance of applying one of the available body bruises from the pack. Then after some amount of time (longer than the tears of course) they would just go away. I'd assume whatever scripts you used for tears could almost be copy and pasted for this, with a few changes, but again you would know better than me. The tat pack has a lot of body bruises that cover slaps and spanks too. (faded variants as well)

 

I think it would be cool for punching to be its own punishment category. Like there's "punishing with pain" via the whip or magic, but then there's just "beating" them which I think should have slightly different effects, like maybe it raises all the stats the whip does, but just adds more fear training, adds more resignation, and then maybe a personality side effect, like increasing masochism or increasing anxiety or lowering liveliness or something, so it acts as a "specialized" punishment and isn't just "whipping but better." (or maybe it should be whipping but better? thoughts?)

 

Like you'd want to use it on the slaves you really wanna just break down into malleable obedient dolls, but you wouldn't use it on the ones you want to groom as trainers or specialists, those require a limited amount of autonomy to do their jobs right. I suppose it would also make sense if it put slaves in shock more often than normal pain punishments. I'm just thinking it would be cool to have a method to really grind a slave down with brute force, and accept the pros and cons that come with that method. (if this is all too much to bother with can I say that just the 'dynamic bruising' on its own would be amazing?)

 

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On 8/15/2021 at 2:46 PM, NicholasJMoore said:

I was reading through the comments from the last couple pages. I think forcing them to drink skooma (or possibly something else...) as a punishment would be interesting. You have the drink X dialog, so adding an additional option and branching the code at that point that might be possible.

 

I'm not sure how it would play into what you're trying to accomplish though. Just thinking out loud.

 

New version 1.6.4, now allows you to get your slaves drunk. Make sure they have alcoholic beverages in their inventory. Tell them to loosen up "Come her, slave" -> "You need to loosen up, have a drink!!" and wait 1 hour game time for maximum effect. If they are tough and wilful they might even be able to swallow a whole bottle of rum. Beware, too mush alcohol in their blood and they might pass out... Alcohol effect should disappear after 4 hours game time. Drunk slaves will be more lively, less smart and bold, more anxious and might loose their willpower and be less tough, depending on their drunk level. They will not think as much about escaping as others, but if they see their friends escaping they have a higher chance to follow them... and trip 🤪.

 

There are no animations for idles while drunk, but I am open for suggestions.

 

Slave dialogue "Come here slave" has been split in two "Come here, slave" now holds orders (including drinks) and "Listen to me, slave" holds most talking (praising, threatening, promising, ...). Promise are not working yet, but you can still make them 😁 you get the spirit 😁.

 

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10 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

Not a bad idea, but I have no idea how to implement it. Is there any follower mod with this feature, we could get inspiration from?

 

There is the skyrim default run away and cower when NPC's can't beat you/stand a chance which might work although this does sound like an ideal time for a slave to try and escape if there stats are low which i suppose could be the disadvantage of letting them out of your sight to keep them safe in combat

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15 hours ago, pinky6225 said:

 

There is the skyrim default run away and cower when NPC's can't beat you/stand a chance which might work although this does sound like an ideal time for a slave to try and escape if there stats are low which i suppose could be the disadvantage of letting them out of your sight to keep them safe in combat

I will look into the Vilja follower mod. I think they have something like that in it.

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8 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said:

I will look into the Vilja follower mod. I think they have something like that in it. By the way it's a wonderful mod.

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/2272

 

Might also be worth a look, it makes NPC's run to a building when a dragon/vampire attack is under way so similar for a slave when PC goes into combat might work

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2 hours ago, pinky6225 said:

 

There is the skyrim default run away and cower when NPC's can't beat you/stand a chance which might work although this does sound like an ideal time for a slave to try and escape if there stats are low which i suppose could be the disadvantage of letting them out of your sight to keep them safe in combat

I agree. It's a risk but definitely immersive. If the player did a good job with the slaves resignation then it wouldn't be a worry but if they didn't well... lol

 

And I think if an npcs aggression is low or one of the settings I can't remember they will always run from combat when it commences. 

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One other thing

 

- Deceive: promise to free slave in exchange of favor, then later don't,

 

For a low stat slave can see that being bad but for a high stat/in love slave can imagine then reacting rather negatively to the "your free now, piss off" aspect of letting them go so having some sort dialogue to reflect that or even a spurned in love slave coming after you at a later date might be interesting

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On 8/14/2021 at 3:15 AM, Unknown DragonX said:

Thank you for the great mod. But I was wondering if  there any problems with having miaslair in the same load order with this mod? Because according to fnis there a duplicate problem and right now my playthrough is having random ctds and looking at the net log it shows that it animation problem and I don't see any other problems that could be reasoning for these random ctds for animation.

I don't know if you still have the same issue but I would not advice using pahe alongside miaslair miaslair outside of duplicition issues can destroy slaves permanently making them unresponsive uninteractible and will break there name and tracking that's something miaslair is notorious for causing 

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Hihi, Ver. 1.64, FNIS means : Warnung: Inkonsistentes Mod DiaryOfMine. Zahl der Animations differiert zwischen FNIS List (41) und zugehöriger behavior Datei (43)

google-translate: Warning: Inconsistent Mod DiaryOfMine. The number of animations differs between the FNIS list (41) and the associated behavior file (43)

 

Have a nice day

Helmut

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On 8/15/2021 at 4:21 PM, TrollAutokill said:

I will look into it, but I thought that was already in pahe. I will see with   @CliftonJD@ there should be a flag for cuffed slaves and the flag should forbid them from idling.

by default its handled by the do nothing packages they're added to when restrained, but it seems they're not added to those packages when tied in furniture so i'll look into that for next update

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Really enjoy the mod, although i found a few bugs i'd like to report

The slaves can still run away and trip during sex animations, making it rather...odd

Talking to a slave that was trying to run away, the dialogues will sometimes trigger twice (first the full lines and then the 3 dots)

dunno if that was mentionned before

thakn you for your hard work

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8 hours ago, Helmut290456 said:

Hihi, Ver. 1.64, FNIS means : Warnung: Inkonsistentes Mod DiaryOfMine. Zahl der Animations differiert zwischen FNIS List (41) und zugehöriger behavior Datei (43)

google-translate: Warning: Inconsistent Mod DiaryOfMine. The number of animations differs between the FNIS list (41) and the associated behavior file (43)

 

Have a nice day

Helmut

This is just a warning. The FNIS contains a few animation I am testing. This is a developer list, nothing to worry about.

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2 hours ago, NicholasJMoore said:

Something I noticed a while back but didn't say anything. Your description says "I condemn physical and psychological violence of any form" instead of "I do not condemn physical and psychological violence of any form"

 

Was that intended?

Condemn as in "completely disapprove". I did not say "condone", as in "deliberately ignore". Those two words are so close, it's like they are made to be mixed up.

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12 hours ago, pinky6225 said:

One other thing

 

- Deceive: promise to free slave in exchange of favor, then later don't,

 

For a low stat slave can see that being bad but for a high stat/in love slave can imagine then reacting rather negatively to the "your free now, piss off" aspect of letting them go so having some sort dialogue to reflect that or even a spurned in love slave coming after you at a later date might be interesting

Who said letting them go was an option? So far the deceive/promise option is just a dialogue with the slave remembering the promise. Nothing else.

 

But yes I get your point, not all slaves will react the same way to a promise/deception, some might even enjoy the teasing.

 

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6 hours ago, Bystander01 said:

Really enjoy the mod, although i found a few bugs i'd like to report

The slaves can still run away and trip during sex animations, making it rather...odd

Talking to a slave that was trying to run away, the dialogues will sometimes trigger twice (first the full lines and then the 3 dots)

dunno if that was mentionned before

thakn you for your hard work

Should be fixed in 1.6.5

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On 8/22/2021 at 8:23 PM, Villianize said:

Side Question: Any chance there could be a function for Master's to tell the slaves to Hide during combat? similar to the flee from combat effect. Im not sure of other players, but Im confident that a sizeable amount of folks have slaves with them that they don't want to participate in combat. Be it theyre too weak, theyre just there for sex, or the more common reason I find in my experience being, if a slave is toggled not to fight, they'll constantly sneak up to you while your trying to fight, and you end up beating the hell out of your slave thus making the training process a bit trickier [You end up punishing your slave since your fighting a group of bandits swinging a greatsword, and have to constantly worry about where they are amidst a battle]

I mean I guess it could be something of an affectionate command like "I want you to stay safe if there's a battle" thus increasing the slaves love for the player. What are your thoughts on that?

Try 1.6.5, not a dialogue option, but non-combat slaves should be more cautious now. Even more if they are already scared by the master.

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Using the newest version of the mod on a fresh game, all npcs now have a dialog option, "Come here slave." Is this intended?

 

Shouldn't only slaves have this dialog option?

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1 hour ago, Gracker said:

Using the newest version of the mod on a fresh game, all npcs now have a dialog option, "Come here slave." Is this intended?

 

Shouldn't only slaves have this dialog option?

I might have forgotten a condition there. It's just cosmetic though. I will put it in update 1.7.0. Update is pending because of many changes in the code to make it faster.

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1 hour ago, TrollAutokill said:

I might have forgotten a condition there. It's just cosmetic though. I will put it in update 1.7.0. Update is pending because of many changes in the code to make it faster.

That's great! When are you planning to release 1.7? 

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