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6 hours ago, MonVert said:

 

Not many people have a thing for silicone implants beach ball boobs with nipples that point straight upward.  Besides the fact that the majority of older meshes will flat out break at the sizes TBD exudes, and you get not many conversions of older stuff.  🤔 I think TAWOBA for TBD is just a myth, honestly.

 

Still,, TBD stuff does still comes out...and it's all pretty high quality, I think. (The amount of people begging for Kardia of Rhodes for CBBE in the TBD Nexus listing was pretty funny)

TAWOBA exist for tbd I did see and tried it

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More clothes, armos and preset for CBBE 3BBB.

 

But, as far as I experimented with both body, BHUNP is better finished, especially for mesh weight.

 

It demands less work to get anal collision working with it.

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I use CBBE /3BB purely because of the wide variety of clothing and armor available. I have tried out and used TBD, UUNP and UNP in the past but have held off on BHUNP (Probably on my next playthrough)  for the simple reason that I am still waiting for more options in the Cloth and Armor (Which IS happening - a surprising number of conversions have appeared on the Snexus and here recently. (as well as other off site places.)

For those who complain that CBBE does not lend itself to smaller, slender figures....why aren't you using the CBBE Slim body? It is pretty good. The only grip I have is that 100 weight is still small and slender!

TBD also now has an SMP option, for those who commented that there was no physics.  (Google TBD with SMP)

 

In the end though,  it is still a matter of people's own personal preferences. And my own, for now, is CBBE 3BB. (More skin option choices s from 1K through to 8 K and lots of overlays.)

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Well I ran into something odd with BHUNP on the nexus using vortex mod manager, the body doesn't work. It doesn't load in a new body. I know the instant thought is user error and I don't discount that possibility but I can use Skse64, racemenu, and the older UNPB body with physics just fine but not the BHUNP body. So if I can get 70+ mods to work and other bodies with physics to work I have to assume that something is up with BHUNP. I don't know why it isn't working but the mod isn't even appearing on skyUI's MCM. As an aside i use to use Mod manager 1 & 2 previously so I am familiar with more "complex" managers but I am a complete noob with vortex as I just returned to Skyrim and Fallout this month after many years so i could be making a rookie mistake but like i said lost of more complex mods like skyui, racemenu, skse64, FNIS are all working and if I can get FNIS working you'd think BHUNP isn't beyond my ability but I can't get it to work and by work I mean get a new body to load, not talking about the physics. 

 

So from my perspective CBBE could win by default if BHUNP isn't working with vortex correctly. I can't see what i am doing wrong if I can get an older unpb mod working with physics but not bhunp. 

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On 1/25/2021 at 4:32 PM, Gothfather said:

Well I ran into something odd with BHUNP on the nexus using vortex mod manager, the body doesn't work. It doesn't load in a new body. I know the instant thought is user error and I don't discount that possibility but I can use Skse64, racemenu, and the older UNPB body with physics just fine but not the BHUNP body. So if I can get 70+ mods to work and other bodies with physics to work I have to assume that something is up with BHUNP. I don't know why it isn't working but the mod isn't even appearing on skyUI's MCM. As an aside i use to use Mod manager 1 & 2 previously so I am familiar with more "complex" managers but I am a complete noob with vortex as I just returned to Skyrim and Fallout this month after many years so i could be making a rookie mistake but like i said lost of more complex mods like skyui, racemenu, skse64, FNIS are all working and if I can get FNIS working you'd think BHUNP isn't beyond my ability but I can't get it to work and by work I mean get a new body to load, not talking about the physics. 

 

So from my perspective CBBE could win by default if BHUNP isn't working with vortex correctly. I can't see what i am doing wrong if I can get an older unpb mod working with physics but not bhunp. 

 

It's user error 100%

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BHUNP is a more natural looking body and you can get 16k textures for it, which may sound overkill, but you will appreciate it when you get close up and personal during sex scenes. CBBE has more outfits, but the textures available are less realistic, plus there are some subtle differences which a connoisseur might notice, like the way the leg muscles join to the knees for example. 

 

I actually use both bodies at the same time. BHUNP for the main character and for the standard body and CBBE 3BBB, so I can build outfits for my CBBE-based followers. I got no problems with this, aside from CBBE outfits looking weird in Bodyslide (due to the UNP-based default textures), but they look just fine on the followers. 

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On 12/28/2020 at 6:04 PM, tchladny said:

Hi. I root for BHUNP. It has supperior SMP but inferior CBPC. It was pointed out that CBBE 3BBB has more armors, but that is not exactly correct. BHUNP have a lot of armors, but almost all of them are "personal releases" outside of nexus. You need to dig though a few Patreons and Discords to find them, but they are definitelly worth it. (Rektas is the most active converter out there). My personal dislike for CBBE roots in strange body proportions (Arm/Body ratio), but that is just a matter of taste. 

I was considering CBBE 3BBB only because of bodysliders for default (adjusted default) armors. UNP family does not have these default armors in bodysliders, espesially for this mod: TMB Vanilla Armors and Clothes SSE. It has great skins, but no sliders. However this is nice replacement for that: Girl's Heavy Armors - BHUNP BodySlide Conversion

 



Just wanna say SunJeong is still very active with her conversions, most in the past year+ are all CBBE 3BBB/3BA Compatible.

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On 1/24/2021 at 1:16 PM, Nevropath said:

More clothes, armos and preset for CBBE 3BBB.

But, as far as I experimented with both body, BHUNP is better finished, especially for mesh weight.

It demands less work to get anal collision working with it.

What did you do to get anal collisions working with it? Do you have any guides, links or anything?

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I've used UUNP for Skyrim LE for as long as i can remember, so for me BHUNP was the natural next step when i got myself SE very recently. I see that CBBE has a wider armor pool and that's nice but there's this stubborn part of me that just doesn't want to switch from BHUNP lol. BHUNP is catching up quite nicely, i don't really need there to be a thousand different armors in my game simultaneously, i just want a consistent skimpy overhaul and some hot special armors i can use for my Dragonborn and/or followers, like the BD's and Kardia sets for example.

 

Both bodies look really nice so this isn't a visual question for me. It's just me being a stubborn bastard lol.

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5 minutes ago, Mr. Otaku said:

Both bodies look really nice so this isn't a visual question for me. It's just me being a stubborn bastard lol.

Same for me with CBBE, never used a different body so i stick with 3bbb xD

 

At the end of the day its more a question of taste and on our case, habit i guess

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1 minute ago, Gukahn said:

Same for me with CBBE, never used a different body so i stick with 3bbb xD

 

At the end of the day its more a question of taste and on our case, habit i guess

Pretty much. We gotta do what we wanna do, and variety helps a lot.

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On 2/12/2021 at 2:13 PM, tavi2018 said:

What did you do to get anal collisions working with it? Do you have any guides, links or anything?

 There are no anal collisions, the animations must rig the bones to move during the animation. Some of Billys animations do it and a couple of bakas

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On 2/12/2021 at 8:44 AM, Mr. Otaku said:

I've used UUNP for Skyrim LE for as long as i can remember, so for me BHUNP was the natural next step when i got myself SE very recently. I see that CBBE has a wider armor pool and that's nice but there's this stubborn part of me that just doesn't want to switch from BHUNP lol. BHUNP is catching up quite nicely, i don't really need there to be a thousand different armors in my game simultaneously, i just want a consistent skimpy overhaul and some hot special armors i can use for my Dragonborn and/or followers, like the BD's and Kardia sets for example.

 

Both bodies look really nice so this isn't a visual question for me. It's just me being a stubborn bastard lol.

After the BHUNP conversion for NordWar's Guard Armor Replacer in addition to the Kardia armor as well as BHUNP conversions of the armors which Matthous and Kreiste made male conversions of were released, that pretty much did away with any reservations that I had about sticking with BHUNP.

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Never got into UNP, the posture with that body looks weird, especially around the hips. Not bad, just weird

..looking at it now, this weird might actually be a good thing. Not sure. Makes me a bit curious

 

Id be willing giving it another shot but I invested so much time into my current CBBE preset, also the only UNP body I liked was the original one. All the different uh.. variations always felt pretty overkill to me. Too many curves just look grotesque to me

 

So.. Im unsure if its even worth the time looking into. Is there anything UNP offers that CBBE does not?

How much work is it to set up BHUNP? 

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11 hours ago, Scrab said:

Never got into UNP, the posture with that body looks weird, especially around the hips. Not bad, just weird

..looking at it now, this weird might actually be a good thing. Not sure. Makes me a bit curious

 

Id be willing giving it another shot but I invested so much time into my current CBBE preset, also the only UNP body I liked was the original one. All the different uh.. variations always felt pretty overkill to me. Too many curves just look grotesque to me

 

So.. Im unsure if its even worth the time looking into. Is there anything UNP offers that CBBE does not?

How much work is it to set up BHUNP? 

to answer your first question - not really..

and second - its the same as installing CBBE 3BA..

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I have tried unp, uunp, bhunp, and cbbe.....personally I like the cbbe/3bbb set up. You can set the mod up to basically have the body of your character the way you want...I also like the realistic physics you can set up with the body on how everything should move. If you like a lot of jiggle in an unrealistic funny way....or if you like that realistic movement cbbe/3bbb does that. So in my personal opinion I like the cbbe/3bbb set up much better at this point of the body mods. The option of the chest size with the 0-100 weight slide with the slim body is what I like to use. Also finding armors for bhunp is kind of hard right now...I mean yeah there is a few out there right now...but not to my personal liking. I hope you find this helpful and good luck with your moding ^_^

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Unfortunately 3BBB is just more commonly used.  I tried BHunp, it would have to gain a lot more support for me to bother to switch over to it.  Its got potential, but the lack of overall support currently hurts it for me.  

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I started out years ago with plain old CBBE. Then i switched to UUNP, mainly because it had better physics support including bellynodes. However, in retrospect i'm not sure it was worth it: My one year affair with UUNP has been a complete pain in the ass. Getting it to work at all required more tetris-skills than your average loverslab framework, and that's an archievement given how known this community is for creating usability nightmares. And even after i got UUNP to work, it never worked quite right in terms of physics, no matter how many tens or hours i spent editing configfiles.

 

So based on my above experiences, take a guess on how keen i am on switching to BHUNP? Yes, the base CBBE-shape is a boring porn puppet, but i'll happily make that trade in exchange for stuff mostly working out of the box. So yeah, i'll prolly switch from UUNP to 3BA sometime in the next weeks.

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I use BHUNP 3BBB mainly because I prefer the UUNP body type. I have always found CBBE to have odd body proportions for my liking. For me it is an aesthetic view over performance or armour. 

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All 3 at the same time.

BHUNP main although I'm considering switching the main basic to CBBE since some of the TBD TAWOBA sets have been made real and CBBE and TBD have compatible textures, I'd then keep BHUNP mostly for player.

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I was tempted to give BHUNP a try (and still might at some point, because why not?) especially when I saw a big influx of conversions on Nexus and other places. But when you look at the uploaders of the BHUNP bodyslides it's all like, the same 1 or 2 people doing it lol, which means the second they get bored and stop the new armors created will dry up or stop. 3BA seems to be really widespread and created and released in a much more stable regularity.

 

I've used both CBBE and UNP in the past quite extensively, so I don't have any kind of huge loyalty. I've said it before though, but from my perspective the current bodies released have so much customization no matter what you pick you can make your body look exactly to your tastes so it's hard to pick one. In an ideal world everyone would pick one body so any armors released would have universal compatibility, but obviously that would never happen lol.

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Ive gone back and forth now between CBBE, UNP, BHUNP and CBA. Now I'm back to BHUNP and mostly because I've gotten a lot better at using outfit studio for conversions.

 

CBBE/CBA is a lot easier and already has a lot of support. I also think that the breasts are done better. Unfortunately I don't like how the textures are mapped on the rest of the body especially around the waist and hips. The butt looks unnatural to me, almost barbie like. Ive messed with sliders to great extent but can't seem to make up for it. I've even created custom sliders but no dice.

 

BHUNP definitely requires more effort for the user but I think looks better if done right. I'm still trying to get the breasts to look as good as they do on 3BA (especially the nipples, for some reason the textures don't map as well there if you are going for the dimple effect). I prefer the textures and the mid section in contrast to the things I mentioned about 3BA.

 

Anyway, thats my 2 cents.

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