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Hi. Over the past few days I've been experiencing an issue related to getting CTDs when trying to load save files, and would like to request some help pinpointing the cause.

 

I have a heavily modded setup, only about 10 mods short of reaching the 255 limit, however it has been surprisingly stable so far. My recent save has about 82 hours of logged playtime, during which I have experience close to no crashes. A few similar CTDs when loading would disappear on the second load attempt, but it seems my luck ran out.

 

I did update and add a few mods during the lifetime of this save, however nothing recently to these crashes occurring. The problem I have right now is the game CTD'ing about 3 seconds after continuing or loading any save file, including older ones that I had previously loaded from successfully. Starting a new game works perfectly fine, but I still CTD if I try to load a save file after starting a new game.

 

I have tried to clean the save with ReSaver (it was already clean), I cleaned the skse save with NetImmerse Override Cleaner, I have reduced the number of animations and reran FNIS, currently at about 11k, and I have been enabling and disabling the various load CTD fixes in different combinations to see how far it would get me into the loading process, with the same results. All this time I have been using Crash Fixes' UseOSAllocators=1, and now I have tried changing the size of the custom memory block as well to no avail. My enblocal file has expand memory set to false and reduce memory to true.

 

The only thing that helped me was changing UseOSAllocators to 0, which made the CTD go away. With UseOSAllocators disabled, I can load, save, restart and load successfully as long as I don't enable it again. I haven't yet tried to properly play after this change to see if I encounter any other problems. And this is my dilemma, as I have tampered with memory settings on an active save file before, only when starting a new game.

 

Would it be safe for me to attempt to continue playing with changing UseOSAllocators from 1 to 0 mid-save? Or is there something else I should look into doing to attempt and successfully load with UseOSAllocators still enabled?

 

Relevant fixes that I had enabled: Load Game CTD Fix, AnimationLoadingFix 1.0 along with Animation Limit Crash Fix 1.1, Crash Fixes and HDT Physics Extensions Crash Fix 1.5. Also Safety Load after using skse memory patch.

 

Crash Fixes logs are all the same 'Game has crashed with exception address' with the address always being in the 4E/4F zone, most recent one being 0x4F1BEFE3. Minidump from the most recent crash (loading with UseOSAllocators=1) will be attached. I am still looking into how to analyze the minidump myself, using debugging tools for windows I can see errors related to accessing the dlls for hdtPhysicsExtensions and hdtHighHeelNative, my first guess due to them being loaded through MO2. I also see errors related to symbol files for other dlls, including discord's hook.

 

Load order (some esps are disabled, sitting at 245 loaded):

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Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
SexLab.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
Skyrim Supplemental Patch.esp
Unique Flowers & Plants.esm
Campfire.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
notice board.esp
daymoyl.esm
EFFCore.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
RaceCompatibility.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
SLSO.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
XPMSE.esp
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp
KJ Tattoos 4K.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
RavenWP3.esp
RavensWarpaint2.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
WetandCold.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp
3DNPC.esp
Immersive Jewelry.esp
Blues Skyrim.esp
SexLab_Solutions.esp
Shout Like a Virgin.esp
Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
SkyUI.esp
NPC_Overhaul_V_1_.esp
Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp
SexLab Confabulation.esp
SexLab_DibellaCult.esp
zThingsInDark.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
DragonbornInDistress.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
BFT Ships and Carriages.esp
sanguinesDebauchery.esp
Inconsequential NPCs.esp
SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp
Cloaks.esp
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
Dovahkiins_Infamy.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
BikiniMaidenFull.esp
CinematicFireFX.esp
More Interesting Loot for Skyrim.esp
DBM_MoreInterestingLoot_Patch.esp
Frostfall.esp
TradeBarter.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
Skyshards.esp
DibellasRecruit.esp
SexLab_Dialogues.esp
SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
zzEstrus.esp
SimpleSlavery.esp
WheelsOfLull.esp
SexLab Pheromones.esp
AngrimApprentice.esp
SOS - Shop.esp
DBM_WAFR Patch.esp
DBM_CRF_Patch.esp
Missives.esp
DBM_Undeath_Patch.esp
Spellsword.esp
SexLab Eager NPCs.esp
The Seven Wonders of Leyenda.esp
Naked Dungeons.esp
PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
BijinAIO-2016_3.1.1.esp
Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp
SaveHotKeyMCM.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
SLALAnimObj.esp
SOS Equipable Schlong.esp
TheCoenaculiUNP.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
DIVERSITY.esp
PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
PerMa Warrior Defluffed.esp
PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp
PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
Differently Ebony.esp
EnchantedArsenal.esp
Beards.esp
Brows.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
Footprints.esp
Jennifer.esp
ImmersiveGenderChange.esp
SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp
SexLab Approach.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp
HelmetToggle.esp
iHUD.esp
dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
Worlds Dawn.esp
Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
ForgottenMagic_Redone_PerMa Patch.esp
PerMa_USLEEP master patch.esp
FNIS.esp
UIExtensions.esp
VioLens.esp
AHZmoreHUD.esp
AchieveThat.esp
SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
Realistic-Voice.esp
FISS.esp
RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp
KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
RailLight.esp
SexLab_SOS-Stapon.esp
UnreadBooksGlow.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
PerMa Mage Defluffed.esp
PerMa Thief Defluffed.esp
Extended UI.esp
SmartCast_1_0.esp
SexLabTools.esp
TDF Aroused Sexy Idles.esp
RutahTattooPack.esp
TMSG.esp
TMSG0Z.esp
AK_RM_Tattoos_All_In_One.esp
wgwarpaint2p0.esp
RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - UNP.esp
JaxonzEnhGrab.esp
BodyChange.esp
SlaveTats.esp
Scent of Sex.esp
DBM_IA_Patch.esp
DBM_RND_Patch.esp
HentaiCreatures.esp
SpellswordDawnguardDragonborn.esp
SLSW Addicted.esp
TrueEyes.esp
Order My Items.esp
Serana.esp
Botox.esp
3PCOFull.esp
SSAssist_Tools.esp
Facelight.esp
Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp
Real Clouds.esp
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
EFFDialogue.esp
SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp
SexLabUtil1.esp
NibblesAnimObjects.esp
SexLab Strapon.esp
SkyTweak.esp
SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp
SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp
StrangeRunes.esp
RRTattoos.esp
SexLabDirtyTalk.esp
Vivid Landscapes.esp
SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
CommunityOverlays1_0T30.esp
Skyrim 2017 TPTC - Parallax Maps.esp
12FemaleBrows.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
PerMa Headless.esp
Predator Vision.esp
SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp
AddItemMenuLE.esp
nhaSimpleSexing.esp
IJPerkusWintermystPatch.esp
DBM_ImmersiveJewelry_Addon.esp
Pre PaMa WAFR Patch.esp
CommunityOverlays2_31T50.esp
SLAdventures.esp
EstrusChaurus.esp
Spank That Ass.esp
Tongues.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-5.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_NL4.esp
NoOverpenetration.esp
C5Kev's Herme Mora Priestess UUNP.esp
SLAnimSpeed.esp
SexLabAddActor.esp
Apropos2.esp
PSQTweaks.esp
SexLab UtilityPlus.esp
SuccubusRaceLite.esp
SCS_RacePatch_Succubus.esp
SexLabDefeat.esp
SexLab Confabulation - Solutions Patch.esp
DiD - DLC Patch.esp
SMEssentialPlayer.esp
SMEssentialPlayerDawnGuard.esp
Naked Dungeons_Patched.esp
PsycheAnimationObjects.esp
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
AOS.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
AOS2_DD Patch.esp
AOS2_EBT Patch.esp
AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp
Immersive Citizens - ELFXHardcore patch.esp
DBM_AOS_Patch.esp
Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp
RDO - EFF v4.0.2 Patch.esp
RDO - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
ELFXEnhancer.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
PatchusMaximus.esp

 

 

So yeah, if anyone has any suggestion on what else I could try, or if I need to provide anything else to clarify the situation, please let me know. Thank you for your time :)

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