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So I've had this problem for a couple of weeks. I decided to make a fresh save but my game keeps CTD when switching to female. I've tried disabling mods, reinstalling and updating however I still have this problem. I've also CTD on saves that were fine before the recent update to sse.

 

Heres my load order

0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     WaterViewSkyrim.esm
  7  7     BBLuxurySuite.esm
  8  8     Campfire.esm
  9  9     OSA.esm
 10  a     hdtHighHeel.esm
 11  b     FlowerGirls SE.esm
 12  c     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 13  d     Heels Sound.esm
 14  e     SexLab.esm
 15  f     FISS.esp
 16 10     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
           Ecotone Dual Sheath.esl
 17 11     SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
 18 12     Immersive Wenches.esp
 19 13     Joy of Perspective.esp
 20 14     EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
 21 15     SkyUI_SE.esp
 22 16     Vivid WeathersSE.esp
 23 17     TrueStormsSE.esp
 24 18     Cloaks.esp
 25 19     Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
 26 1a     Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
 27 1b     Mortal Enemies.esp
 28 1c     Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp
 29 1d     SexLab_Solutions.esp
 30 1e     AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
 31 1f     AncientDraugr.esp
 32 20     Nocturnal Craftable Armors.esp
 33 21     SexyVest.esp
 34 22     VanderolTattoos.esp
 35 23     Daedric Chainmail - CBBE(SSE)Bodyslide.esp
 36 24     CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp
 37 25     DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
 38 26     Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp
 39 27     RohPoses.esp
 40 28     Solitude Expansion.esp
 41 29     Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp
 42 2a     Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim.esp
 43 2b     YurianaWench.esp
 44 2c     Better Vampire NPCs.esp
 45 2d     Immersive Encounters.esp
 46 2e     RomanceOfNPCs.esp
 47 2f     Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp
 48 30     Immersive Patrols II.esp
 49 31     KvHarborside.esp
 50 32     Harborside-SolitudeExpansion-Patch.esp
 51 33     Valleyview.esp
 52 34     MistySkye.esp
 53 35     Frostfall.esp
 54 36     Immersive Followers.esp
 55 37     SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
 56 38     Shrek_House.esp
 57 39     Vigilant.esp
 58 3a     KarlovManorSSE.esp
 59 3b     Yuriana'sBigBootyAdventure.esp
 60 3c     Darkend.esp
 61 3d     FlowerGirls SE - Adventures.esp
 62 3e     TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp
 63 3f     notice board.esp
 64 40     DiverseWerewolvesCollection.esp
 65 41     MoreWerewolves.esp
 66 42     WendigoAndHowler.esp
 67 43     VisualAnimatedEnchants.esp
 68 44     Deadly Wenches.esp
 69 45     [SunJeong] Ninirim Collection.esp
 70 46     MF_RadiantProstitution.esp
 71 47     Equippable Tomes.esp
 72 48     Black Viper's Will.esp
 73 49     Ars Metallica.esp
 74 4a     Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp
 75 4b     Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp
 76 4c     Improved Eyes Skyrim - Serana.esp
 77 4d     Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
 78 4e     LazyBodyEdit.esp
 79 4f     Vivid Weathers SE - Classic.esp
 80 50     VWTSSE-Patch.esp
 81 51     WetandCold.esp
 82 52     CBBE S-Bikini.esp
 83 53     SexLab Romance.esp
 84 54     Hesna_Follower_by_germanware.esp
 85 55     LightMageOutfit.esp
 86 56     FNISSexyMove.esp
 87 57     Neith - Timerigan Priestess.esp
 88 58     Xera Follower.esp
 89 59     KittyStandaloneFollower.esp
 90 5a     UNP Leather Clothes.esp
 91 5b     Shino Bikini Pack SSE.esp
 92 5c     Warhammer Sorceress Robes.esp
 93 5d     Elvenia.esp
 94 5e     TeraRogueCBBE.esp
 95 5f     FlowerGirls SE - IW Patch.esp
 96 60     FlowerGirls SE - Bathing Beauties Patch.esp
 97 61     Customizable Camera.esp
 98 62     FGCumEffect.esp
100 64     FertilityMode.esp
102 66     Justice Glass Armor.esp
103 67     UNP Undies.esp
104 68     Witch Of The Wild.esp
105 69     BBLS_SKSE64_Patch.esp
106 6a     FaceSculptorsRacemenu.esp
107 6b     BikiniAscendVolume1.esp
108 6c     LazyBikiniOutfits.esp
109 6d     LazyCBP.esp
110 6e     AMatterOfTime.esp
111 6f     SkyHUD.esp
112 70     iHUD.esp
113 71     RobesReplacer.esp
114 72     Equippable Tomes - Campfire Add-On.esp
115 73     PeroPeroArmorPackSE.esp
116 74     PeroPeroArmorPack - JoP Patch.esp
117 75     dc-mana-tanks-000.esp
118 76     SLPleasure.esp
119 77     Outfit Switcher.esp
120 78     Luxurious Seduction.esp
121 79     NiOverridePoseAdjustments.esp
122 7a     NIOPA-Objects.esp
123 7b     Elemental Destruction.esp
124 7c     Immersive Weapons.esp
125 7d     Blades Hakama SE.esp
126 7e     garm_companion.esp
127 7f     CombatCross.esp
128 80     Marie A Redhead Follower 0.9.esp
129 81     LV_TeddyBear.esp
130 82     BBLSmusic.esp
131 83     Regreses Star Cloth.esp
132 84     LingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.esp
133 85     Neo's Devilmaid2.esp
134 86     _GSPoses.esp
135 87     My Home Is Your Home.esp
136 88     BTG_Tania.esp
137 89     SkyDreamMaidens.esp
138 8a     PathOfTheAntiMage.esp
139 8b     Hedge Mage Armor.esp
140 8c     RogueSorceressRetextured.esp
141 8d     BBLuxurySuiteENM.esp
142 8e     KittenStandaloneFollower.esp
143 8f     Dragon Lilly.esp
144 90     Uriellefollower.esp
145 91     Virginia.esp
146 92     Stephanie.esp
147 93     Licia.esp
148 94     RayneStandaloneFollower.esp
149 95     Giorgia.esp
150 96     Northern Priestess - EX.esp
151 97     The_Sinister_Seven.esp
152 98     Bijin Warmaidens.esp
153 99     Ashes.esp
154 9a     OksanaFollower.esp
155 9b     Magnolia Follower.esp
156 9c     Animated Featherd wings.esp
157 9d     Jugs.esp
158 9e     Peacekeeper Armour.esp
159 9f     LazyItemHider.esp
160 a0     Black Rose.esp
161 a1     RayAnn Follower.esp
162 a2     Xanafollower.esp
163 a3     GirlHeavyArmor.esp
164 a4     Vero Follower.esp
165 a5     Voam.esp
166 a6     AFT - Dragonborn Patch.esp
167 a7     DCSorceress.esp
168 a8     ZaitamasAncientShroudedArmor.esp
169 a9     CROSS_Crucible.esp
170 aa     SexyKunoichi2ndByNausicaa.esp
171 ab     SkinTight Dragon Wear.esp
172 ac     Highheels.esp
173 ad     GRIM ElfMed.esp
174 ae     opmfgconsole.esp
175 af     Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
176 b0     SkyrimHeartRate.esp
177 b1     Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
178 b2     SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp
179 b3     LazyHeels.esp
180 b4     GomaPeroLand.esp
181 b5     PAN_Celyria.esp
182 b6     Ryder_the_Dragonfly.esp
183 b7     [SunJeong] Kailani Bikini.esp
184 b8     [SunJeong] Charles Rene.esp
185 b9     AetherSuite.esp
186 ba     AMX_TelvanniSpellsword.esp
187 bb     Steel_Knight.esp
188 bc     RutahTattooPack SE.esp
189 bd     UIExtensions.esp
190 be     Lupine_ZiovendianBodypaints.esp
191 bf     TBD - TyrisFlareArmor.esp
192 c0     BBD_NereidPirate_Modular.esp
193 c1     Demon Armor.esp
254 FE   0 Tera-Bikini.esp
254 FE   1 [COCO]sexypunk.esp
194 c2     [COCO]chunli_qipao.esp
195 c3     Cleo_Follower.esp
196 c4     Patra_Follower.esp
197 c5     [COCO]Anaconda.esp
198 c6     Stella Mithril Armor.esp
199 c7     Cumshot.esp
254 FE   2 CumshotSL.esp
254 FE   3 CumshotFG.esp
254 FE   4 SINful CBP.esp
254 FE   5 MiniBikini.esp
200 c8     Poser Hotkeys.esp
201 c9     SLAnimLoader.esp
202 ca     SexLabDefeat.esp
203 cb     Chakaru 1001 Nights.esp
204 cc     [Melodic] Batboob Succub.esp
205 cd     [Melodic] Workout outfit.esp
206 ce     C5Kevs_Yumiko_Light_Tank_Armor_CBBE.esp
207 cf     [Melodic] Pneuma.esp
254 FE   6 GRIM Vampirella.esp
208 d0     Black Widow Outfit.esp
209 d1     LewdMarks.esp
210 d2     SOS - Leito Addon.esp
211 d3     NCK30Obj.esp
212 d4     SlaveTats.esp
213 d5     Immersive Wenches -Enslaved Wenches patch-.esp
214 d6     FNIS.esp
215 d7     TKDodge.esp
216 d8     AddItemMenuSE.esp
217 d9     Giants.esp
218 da     SLAL_GSAnimObjects.esp
219 db     GPPoses.esp
220 dc     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
221 dd     SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
222 de     SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
           Ecotone Dual Sheath Patch.esp
254 FE   7 3BBB.esp
223 df     SOSRaceMenu.esp
224 e0     KS Hairdo's.esp
225 e1     Sunstarved_Tanlines.esp
226 e2     RaceMenu.esp
227 e3     XPMSE.esp
228 e4     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
229 e5     CBBE.esp
230 e6     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
231 e7     Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
232 e8     Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
233 e9     Elemental Destruction - Ordinator Patch.esp
234 ea     Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
235 eb     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
236 ec     Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
237 ed     Convenient Horses.esp
238 ee     RealisticWaterTwo.esp

 

If anyone has had a problem like this any help would be great! I cant find the problem within the mods causing this CTD.

 

Thanks!

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You might want to move cbbe.esp, racemenu.esp, racemenumorphsCBBE.esp, and racemenuplugin.esp close to the top of the load order. Make sure for all your other mods (that conflict with the named plugins.) overwrite the listed plugins' files. Also what mod organizer are you using?

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If you start a game as a male do you CTD when coming upon a female?

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4 hours ago, chocoduo said:

I've tried disabling mods, reinstalling and updating however I still have this problem. I've also CTD on saves that were fine before the recent update to sse.

It's impossible that you tried disabling all mods but still get the CTD. Be patient ,disable all of them. After that, run LOOT once, run the game each time you enable one mod at the top of the list and see if you get CTD. By doing this you can easily distinguish the problematic mod.

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3 hours ago, huanrenfeng said:

It's impossible that you tried disabling all mods but still get the CTD. Be patient ,disable all of them. After that, run LOOT once, run the game each time you enable one mod at the top of the list and see if you get CTD. By doing this you can easily distinguish the problematic mod.

Not so impossible. It is possible that the OP needs to update their version of RaceMenu. That, or one of the mods has a bad mesh. If the latter it is likely that there will be CTDs in the presence of other females (NPCs). If the former is true then RaceMenu needs to be looked at as the cause.

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I run loot every time I update the game. Im also running on an older mod organiser. The nmo, never changed it to vortex. Also using the updated racemenu. I only get CTD when I change to a female character on the character creation menu. Im able to run my older female character saves and don't CTD when encountering a female npc. Argonian and khagit females don't cause CTD in character creation. The male game runs fine.

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it seems that your LOOT is not LOOTing properly hence the esp order you posted ,its completely different  order than in  mine and we have quite a lot of the same mods active, also  you said you have NexusModManager - the only advice I can give you is to throw it away and use ModOrganizer2(portable  version) to mod your game...I am running 238 esps and never had any kind of CTD in SSE ever.

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I was having a similar problem, not the same, but similar.

 

I started a new game.  Character creation screen showed default male character.  When I changed sex to female, the game locked up and I had to restart my computer.

 

The problem was the body mesh was wrong.  I built the wrong mesh in bodyslide, so the game was trying to load a mesh that didn't have the right bones and so on.  Once I made the right mesh in bodyslide, the problem was solved.

 

It still took a long time for the female to load in the char creation screen, and it takes a LONG time to load into the game from character creation, but at least its moving in the right direction.

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On 2/16/2020 at 3:03 AM, agiz19 said:

it seems that your LOOT is not LOOTing properly hence the esp order you posted ,its completely different  order than in  mine and we have quite a lot of the same mods active, also  you said you have NexusModManager - the only advice I can give you is to throw it away and use ModOrganizer2(portable  version) to mod your game...I am running 238 esps and never had any kind of CTD in SSE ever.

If I use mod organizer 2 can I import my mod order from nmm or would I have to re add everything? I haven't modded in a while besides updating and adding outfits. I'll definetly look into the LOOT order because I also found it strange how mods that were once on the top ended up being on the bottom. Thanks!

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20 hours ago, manchuligans said:

I was having a similar problem, not the same, but similar.

 

I started a new game.  Character creation screen showed default male character.  When I changed sex to female, the game locked up and I had to restart my computer.

 

The problem was the body mesh was wrong.  I built the wrong mesh in bodyslide, so the game was trying to load a mesh that didn't have the right bones and so on.  Once I made the right mesh in bodyslide, the problem was solved.

 

It still took a long time for the female to load in the char creation screen, and it takes a LONG time to load into the game from character creation, but at least its moving in the right direction.

Was it an outfit mesh or just the bodyslide of your character

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When  I switched  to MO 2 , I was still playing Oldrim before  so  with SSE I just modded the whole thing again, but  there  is a possibility to  transfer your mods  so  you  don't need to download again  , here  is the guide to setup MO 2  and you will have  to reinstall your mods, its just  you wont have to download them  again , read carefully :):

 

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1576728345

 

And use Mod  Organizer 2 portable version, because you can  put it anywhere and even transfer it to other drives without problems

 

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10 hours ago, agiz19 said:

When  I switched  to MO 2 , I was still playing Oldrim before  so  with SSE I just modded the whole thing again, but  there  is a possibility to  transfer your mods  so  you  don't need to download again  , here  is the guide to setup MO 2  and you will have  to reinstall your mods, its just  you wont have to download them  again , read carefully :):

 

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1576728345

 

And use Mod  Organizer 2 portable version, because you can  put it anywhere and even transfer it to other drives without problems

 

 

Thank you for the help! I will look into it! 

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