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Upgrading from 0.9 to 0.10 on a game in-progress should be safe, although it would be a good idea to make sure that you end any repeatable jobs or inn sessions before you do.

 

The Ancient Profession is part prostitution mod, part lore-friendly quest mod. It's my attempt to make prostitution as legitimate an in-game choice as joining the College of Winterhold or the Thieves Guild, and it's my attempt to make role-playing a character who truly starts from nothing a little more possible. The mod adds the following:

 

  • Quests. The quests are mostly designed around role-playing, not combat, so that your prostitute character doesn't have to be a combat bad-ass right at the start of the game.
    • Some of the early quest content centers around you obtaining licenses to work as a prostitute in each of the nine holds of Skyrim, and these quests are designed so that low-level characters can complete them.
    • I intend to keep the quests as lore-friendly as possible while still expanding beyond what's officially part of the lore.
    • This is a SexLab mod, so the quests will usually somehow involve sex.
  • Prostitution. There are existing prostitution mods, of course. This one is just designed to fit in with the quest mechanics of the rest of the mod, and I want the interactions with clients to be a little more to my personal taste. My intent is to also implement at least one brothel that you can join, with its own quest line and benefits, as well as other choices that may have their own trade-offs.
  • Becoming a succubus. You have a choice to become a succubus after following one of the quest lines in the mod. If you have a different succubus mod that you prefer, there should be no worries about compatibility, because the succubus mechanics in this mod are 100% optional. 
  • Public sex and unlicensed prostitution as crimes. If you do not have a license to work as a prostitute in one of Skyrim's holds, you may receive a bounty if you try to work there, though that may also depend on the NPC you are soliciting. This mod also has the ability to enforce public sex as a crime, though if you have another mod that you prefer you can turn that off.

 

I hope that players enjoy getting to know the characters in the mod and find the quest lines interesting to play.

 

At this time, and for the foreseeable future, this mod is intended for female player characters only.

 

Up-front warning: Although rape is not the focus of this mod, your path through some quests can lead to the player character being raped. This mod will also contain some references to creature-related content, though all scenes of that nature will be optional.

 

Note about LE compatibility:

 

Because of the amount of time it takes to develop the mod, I don't plan to support Skyrim LE at this time, simply because I don't have time to test the mod in both versions. There are a few users who have reported that they've used the mod without issues on LE after following a few extra steps: extracting the BSA, putting the loose files from the BSA in your Skyrim Data directory, deleting the BSA, and converting assets to an LE format. But note that you do this at your own risk. I am not officially supporting LE and may or may not address problems that you encounter if you use the mod with LE.

 

How to start the quests

 

Option 1: Go to a Dibella's Garden brothel and speak to the madam. There are locations near Solitude, Whiterun, and Windhelm.

 

Option 2: Go to any innkeeper and ask, "Do you have any work that doesn't involve risking my life?". Then ask "May I sell my company in your inn?". If you are in a hold in Skyrim, it will start a quest to get a license in that hold. If you are outside of Skyrim, such as in Raven Rock or in a location added by a mod, you will not need a license, but you will still get an objective to get one in Skyrim before working there.

 

Option 3: Speak to a prostitute.

 

Option 4: Speak to Benjen Black-Briar in Riften.

 

Planned features (all are at least partly implemented)

 

  • Different employers, with different advantages and disadvantages
  • Ways to build skills through safe training - that is, not putting your life on the line - in a way that's not just clicking a message box and paying some gold.
  • More quests and a more complex prostitution system

 

 How the freelance prostitution system works

 

As of version 0.9, you can solicit NPCs on the streets and in the wilderness. Full details are in the spoiler section.

 

Spoiler

How to start soliciting

 

You just need to start up the prostitution system the normal way for the mod, and then a dialogue option "Interested in a good time with me?" will appear.

 

Limitations

 

  • By default, you will get in trouble for having sex in public, so you must find a hidden place, work in an inn, or take someone inside. See the section on how crime works for more details.
  • You must still get permission to entertain clients in an inn. However, you can solicit someone on the streets and then go get permission to entertain them in the inn.
  • Not all NPCs can be solicited. Excluded NPCs are:
    • Jarls, Stewards, and Housecarls (though it may be possible to solicit these NPCs in inns)
    • Priests
    • Soldiers at camps and forts
    • Orc wise women
    • Beggars
    • Your spouse and followers
    • Dawnguard if you have joined the Dawnguard
    • Volkihar vampires unless you have joined the vampires
    • Anyone in the FavorExcludedFaction
    • Various specific NPCs that it just feels wrong to me to have the freelance dialogue

 

As I playtest this myself, I will probably adjust who can be solicited based on what I think makes sense. Just because an NPC can't be freelance solicited doesn't necessarily mean I will never provide a way to have them pay you for sex. I just don't think the generic dialogue works for them.

 

How the crime system works

As of version 0.9, The Ancient Profession enforces that you cannot have sex in public by default. This is optional and can be turned off entirely if you don't want public sex to be illegal or if you have a different mod that you prefer to use for this. More details in the spoiler section.

 

Spoiler

What is illegal?

 

Unlicensed prostitution and public sex are illegal. You will receive a bounty for doing either. The gold amounts are configurable.

 

What is considered "public" sex?

 

Basically, sex is public if you're in a city or town, and you're not in a private place or somewhere that you would reasonably expect that you could have sex without anyone complaining. 

 

  • Sex in the wilderness, in dungeons, and on the roads between cities is not public sex.
  • Sex in a brothel is obviously not public sex.
  • Sex in public in an Orc stronghold may optionally be considered illegal (this can be configured in the MCM).
  • For now, sex in a temple is also OK, although I may change this for a future release to allow only specific temples.
  • Sex in an inn is OK if you've rented a bed and are having sex near that bed
  • If you are in an inn, sex is considered to be public if you are not near the bed that you've rented
    • Optionally, sex anywhere in an inn can always be non-public as long as you've rented a room
  • If you're in a cell you own (a player home), it's not public sex
  • If you're in a house that's owned by a sex partner or a faction that at least one sex partner belongs to, it's not public sex
  • If you're in a location that is not a house, but it is owned by a faction that at least one sex partner belongs to AND you are having sex near any bed, it is not public sex. 

 

How is public sex reported?

 

Someone has to see you having public sex. The mod checks whether anyone can see you periodically while you are having sex, if you are in a location that would be considered public sex if anyone saw you.

 

Who will report public sex?

 

  • Guards
  • NPCs with high morality
  • Creatures will NOT report you (no chickens complaining about you having public sex)
  • Anyone who is currently having sex themselves will not report you
  • Your client will not report you
  • Your followers will not report you
  • Khajiit caravans will not report you
  • Certain specific NPCs are forbidden from reporting you

 

How the succubus system works

You can become a succubus after completing a quest line in Winterhold. Full details are in the spoiler section.

 

Spoiler

How to become a succubus

 

You become a succubus by completing all of the quests in the Vanikseth quest line and asking to learn the soul absorption spell you used during that quest line as part of your reward. If you then absorb 5 souls within 5 days, you will become a succubus.

 

How does absorbing souls work?

 

There are two ways to absorb souls. The first is a lesser power that will make you absorb the soul of your next eligible sex partner. You cast this spell before you have sex with them, and then you will absorb their soul if they have an orgasm. Once you become a succubus, you will also have a lesser power named Succubus Deadly Seduce that will make the target have sex with you if they are eligible to have their soul absorbed.

 

You can't absorb all NPCs, and some things may interfere with feeding:

 

  • Essential NPCs won't be absorbed
  • Dragons can't be absorbed
  • NPCs with the NoSoulTrap keyword can't be absorbed
  • You must have a special perk to absorb the souls of females
  • You must have a special perk to absorb souls if you have non-vaginal sex
  • The Succubus Deadly Seduce spell initially works on sleeping and bleeding-out NPCs or level 1 males only, but it becomes more powerful as you absorb more souls
  • Succubus Deadly Seduce doesn't work on NPCs who are in combat
  • Succubus Deadly Seduce cannot be used on the boss of a dungeon, regardless of its level
  • Certain NPCs were specially forbidden from Succubus Deadly Seduce because they are too heavily scripted
  • Succubus Deadly Seduce calms the target NPC but not that NPC's allies
  • If you are attacked during a scene started by Succubus Deadly Seduce, the scene will end immediately, and if your victim didn't have an orgasm, they won't be absorbed

 

Succubus stages

 

There are 5 stages of being a succubus:

 

  • Well-Fed: You have fed recently and suffer no penalties
  • Hungry: You need to feed and suffer 10% health damage
  • Starving: Same as Hungry but you suffer 20% health damage
  • Ravenous: You suffer 30% health damage, and you will automatically feed on your next eligible sex partner unless you have the Ravenous Resistance perk and activate the lesser power that it gives you
  • Dying: You suffer 60% health damage; you cannot resist automatic feeding; (optional) you will die if you don't feed within 12 hours

 

The amount of time it takes to get to each stage changes depending on your level. When you first become a succubus, it takes 2 days to become hungry, 2 to become starving, 2 to become ravenous, and 7 to start dying. By the maximum succubus level, it takes 1 day to become hungry, 1 to become starving, 1 to become ravenous, and 10 to start dying.

 

Succubus levels

 

There are 12 succubus levels, and each will provide a boost to stamina and magic regeneration, health, and damage resistance. You will also have the option to choose a succubus perk at each level.

 

Succubus perks

 

  • Nourishing Small Souls: You can reduce your stage from Starving to Hungry with Petty and Lesser souls
  • Satisfying Medium Souls: You can reduce your stage from Hungry or Starving to Well-Fed with Common and Greater souls
  • Satisfying Small Souls: You can reduce your stage from Hungry to Well-Fed with Petty and Lesser souls
  • Souls for Magic: You can trade 5 soul points for a 5-minute 100% boost to magic regeneration
  • Souls for Health: You can trade 5 soul points for a 5-minute 100-point boost to health
  • Souls for Durability: You can trade 5 soul points for a 5-minute +35 damage resistance
  • Ravenous Resistance: You gain a power that lets you resist automatic feeding at the Ravenous stage. It must be cast every time you have sex if you want to resist and does not work at the Dying stage.
  • Upgrade Souls: If you have discovered that you are the Dragonborn, you can trade 50 soul points for 1 dragon soul point
  • Non-Vaginal Feeding: You can feed even if you didn't have vaginal sex
  • Absorb Females: Your succubus powers work on females
  • Group Absorb: If you have group sex, everyone you have sex with will be absorbed; without it, only one partner will be absorbed
  • Feeding Orgy: NPCs who come within range of you while feeding will be calmed and overcome with lust

 

Some of these perks have a minimum succubus level before they are available. For example, Feeding Orgy is only available to a level 12 succubus. Some of them also have prerequisites. For example, you cannot gain the Absorb Females perk without having Non-Vaginal feeding.

 

Succubus cure

 

If you decide the life of a succubus isn't for you, there is an option for a cure quest that starts immediately when you become a succubus. Just follow what the quest objectives tell you to do.

 

AT THIS TIME, YOU CANNOT BECOME A SUCCUBUS AGAIN ONCE CURED.

 

Bugs and known issues

 

A few things you should know right away:

 

  • All of the quest lines are works in progress. Sometimes, somebody might tell you that they will get in touch with you later, but that is not always implemented yet. For example:
    • Ulfric may tell you he wants to use your talents to help the Stormcloaks, but there are no more quests yet
    • Mother Hamal may tell you that she has more tasks for you, but there are no more yet
  • The Whiterun and Falkreath quests are placeholders.
  • Vanikseth gets stuck multiple times on the way to his workroom. This is an issue with the vanilla navmesh between where he starts and where he's going. I will address it at some point, but he should automatically "jump" past the parts where he's stuck.
  • If you work as a prostitute in an inn added by a mod, you may be told you left without paying just for walking out the door of the inn if you didn't pay the innkeeper his due first. This is caused by the mod not giving the inn a parent location with the keyword LocTypeHabitation on it, and the mod author would have to fix it. This happens with Skygerfall, for example.
  • After the special Dibella's Garden CMNF party job, if you do the job again, the cell may not reset properly unless you leave the brothel first.

 

This is not the complete list of known issues. These are just the ones I think are likely to confuse people.

 

Installation

 

Just extract the archive into your Skyrim SE Data folder or use a mod manager to install it.

 

Hard Requirements (install them or it won't work)

 

  • SexLab SE and any of its dependencies
    • Some of the quests do require creature animations. I intend to always keep creature-related content optional. If you start going down a quest path that won't work without creature animations enabled, the mod will tell you.
  • PapyrusUtil
    • This is installed with SexLab, and it's fine to use that version, but this mod directly uses it now.
  • Fuz Ro D'oh for Skyrim SE (https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/15109)
    • Dialogue will go by too fast without it
  • Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch 
    • The mod will load without this at the moment, but I think some of the quest conditions rely on bug fixes from the patch.

 

Soft Requirements (install them if you want to)

 

The mod will load the following to provide the prostitutes more outfit variety than the dull vanilla tavern clothes:

 

 

As of 0.7, you can add or remove outfits from other mods for the characters in this mod to use. Instructions for doing this will appear in the second post of the support thread. You can add or remove these outfits at any time (but note that removing an outfit that someone is currently wearing will cause them to be naked temporarily).

 

Animation packs recommended:

 

  • For best results, install an animation pack that has a lesbian double-dildo animation. Some scenes specifically look for this but will fall back to strap-on scenes or just plain lesbian scenes if necessary.

 

Mods that may enhance your experience

Keep in mind that these are not made by me and may lag behind releases a bit in updating. I also cannot provide support for them.

 

Voice pack for The Ancient Profession (note that if the audio and subtitles disagree on what a character is saying, the subtitles are probably correct)

 

Optional non-vanilla hairstyles for NPCs in the mod

 

 

 

Compatibility

 

I have not tested this mod extensively for compatibility, but I do usually play with plenty of mods. I have seen no conflicts in the ones I use, and in general I try not to modify vanilla assets more than absolutely necessary. That said, there are certain planned features that will introduce the possibility for compatibility issue. The biggest of these is brothel locations, as this will require me to edit the Tamriel worldspace. I may also be forced to modify a few vanilla scripts to integrate the mod better.

 

Some compatibility issues

 

  • Anub's Animations. This animation pack works fine and has some nice animations, but the animation tags in it are a hot mess, so you may see some scenes using animation types that you asked The Ancient Profession to suppress. Turning them off by hand or fixing the tags is the only solution.
  • The Sisterhood of Dibella. As of Version 0.10, there is an option in the MCM for The Ancient Profession named Enable Temple of Dibella Quests. If you want to use The Sisterhood of Dibella mod at the same time as The Ancient Profession, you must uncheck this box, or you may not be able to complete the quests from The Sisterhood of Dibella, because the way that The Ancient Profession deals with Fjotra is incompatible, and the quest lines will likely not work very well together. I have not extensively tested the two mods together since implementing this option, but based on what I know at the time of release it should allow the two mods to safely co-exist. Be aware that after a certain point in the Temple of Dibella quest line for The Ancient Profession, you will no longer be able to prevent the incompatibility. If you want to install the two mods together, it is best to do so on a new game and immediately disable the Enable Temple of Dibella Quests option for The Ancient Profession.

 

Not recommended 

 

  • Any other prostitution mod. Other prostitution mods will be unaware of the licensing and employment systems in The Ancient Profession and will provide a way to sidestep its game mechanics. If they implement player approaches, you may also get weird interactions. And if they provide solicitation dialogue, you may have to remember which mod does which thing.

 

Not compatible

 

  • If there's a mod out there that changes the rental bed at the Sleeping Giant Inn in Riverwood to a different bed, this mod won't be compatible with it. There are technical reasons for this that you probably don't care about.
  • Radiant Prostitution if you have the "NPC Scene" options turned on. Some of the characters in The Ancient Profession wear the tavern clothes outfit, and this can cause quest-breaking interruptions.

 


  • Submitter
  • Submitted
    01/18/2020
  • Category
  • Requires
    SexLab SE, PapyrusUtil, Fuz Ro D'oh, Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch
  • Regular Edition Compatible
    No

 

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How to customize prostitute outfits used by The Ancient Profession

 

IMPORTANT: These instructions require some comfort finding form IDs and editing JSON. The support thread for The Ancient Profession is not the best place to learn how to do either of those things.

 

The prostitute outfits used in the mod are controlled by a file named outfits.json in the directory named Data/SKSE/Plugins/The Ancient Profession in your Skyrim installation. If you want to change the outfits that are available, you need only edit this file.

 

There are 5 sets of outfits used by the mod for different purposes. These are:

 

  • dgwhorebody: This set is used by most prostitutes in Dibella's Garden.
  • dgbartenderbody: This set is used by the prostitutes who are also bartenders in Dibella's Garden. For example, Ginna in Solitude or Matilde in Whiterun.
  • dgmadamebody: This set is used by madams in Dibella's Garden, such as Eliana Duerra in Solitude and Jerna in Whiterun.
  • dgmagebody: This set is used by mages in Dibella's Garden, such as Fasta in Solitude and Dovesi in Whiterun.
  • freewhorebody: This set is used by freelance prostitutes who are not associated with a brothel, such as Siarra in Solitude or Calia in Riverwood.

 

Because the Dibella's Garden prostitutes and freelance prostitutes use different lists, you are free to customize them differently. You might want to make DG whores wear elegant clothes while freelance whores wear lower class clothing. You might want there to be a large chance that DG whores will be naked, since they are in a private establishment, while freelance whores won't be, since they are in someone's inn. This does, of course, create a little more work if you want to add an outfit for both types of prostitute to use.

 

The "body" part of the names means it controls the clothes they are wearing and not shoes, for example. At this time, The Ancient Profession does not provide a way to customize shoes, though that may change in the future.

 

Controlling nudity chances

 

You can set the chance that one of the outfit sets will produce no outfit at all for the prostitute who is using it. This is controlled by the values in the int section of outfits.json.

 

"int":
{
    "dgwhorebodychancenaked": 5,
    "dgbartenderbodychancenaked": 5,
    "dgmadambodychancenaked": 0,
    "dgmagebodychancenaked": 5,
    "freewhorebodychancenaked": 0
}

 

The values shown here are the defaults and are straight percentage chances. So Dibella's Garden whores, bartenders, and mages all have a 5% chance that they will be naked. Dibella's Garden madams and freelance whores have no chance of being naked.

 

If you want all of the mages to always be naked, just change dgmagebodychancenaked to 100 and load your game. Note that this will not affect mages who have already been assigned an outfit. To recycle the outfit they are wearing if they have already been assigned one, you will need to select them in the console and type resurrect.

 

Adding outfits

 

There are three steps to adding a new outfit.

 

Step 1: Find the outfit you want to use and get its form ID

 

Of course, before you can add an outfit, you need to decide what outfit to add. For example purposes, assume that all of the outfits that the mod is currently using are taken from Open Monk Robes.esp, and you want to add a new one to Dibella's Garden mages that comes from Lazman_Outfits.esp.

 

You need to know the form ID of the outfit that you want to use. Note that outfits that are composed of lots of different individual pieces will not work. If you are trying to add an outfit that is broken into parts like "panties", "skirt", "top", and so on, the NPC will only wind up wearing one of those things if the item is selected.

 

You can find the form ID of an outfit through the console in game or by opening the mod in SSEEdit. If you are looking in-game, then you will need to be careful of ESL plugins, because the numbers shown in game may not be the ones you need to use to add the outfit. You can tell if something comes from an ESL plugin, because the form ID in game will start with FE.

 

The form ID is an 8-digit hexadecimal number, so it will have some combination of the numbers 0-9 and the letters A-F. When adding an outfit, you only need the last six of the digits and should not use the first two, which depend on your load order and can change.

 

For this example, we will add the outfit Lazman_outfits_09_mageapprentice to the DG mage set. The form ID of that outfit is 01000822. As already mentioned, the first two digits should not be used, so that leaves the form ID that we really need as 000822.

 

Step 2: If the plugin is not in the list for the outfit set, then add it

 

The plugins used by the outfit sets are found in the stringList section of outfits.json and look like this:

 

"stringList":
{
    "dgwhorebodyplugins": [ "Open Monk Robes.esp" ],
    "dgbartenderbodyplugins": [ "Open Monk Robes.esp" ],
    "dgmadambodyplugins": [ "Open Monk Robes.esp" ],
    "dgmagebodyplugins": [ "Open Monk Robes.esp", "Lazman_Outfits.esp" ],
    "freewhorebodyplugins": [ "Open Monk Robes.esp" ],
}

 

The values shown here are just examples and are not the full set of defaults. This means that all of the outfit sets will pull from a mod named Open Monk Robes.esp, while the dgmagebody set will also pull from Lazman_Outfits.esp. To add another plugin, just follow the example from dgmagebodyplugins here: add a comma, then put the name of the mod's ESP file in quotes.

 

If the mod you want to use an outfit from is already in the body set you want, you should not add it again. This will be important, because in step 2, you need to make sure you add to the existing list if there is one, or you will have to create a new one.

 

Step 3: Add the form IDs of the outfits you want to use

 

To do this step, you will need to know the form ID of the outfit you want to use. The format of the outfit lists looks like this:

 

"<outfit set> - <plugin name>": [ "<form ID>", "<form ID>" ]

 

IMPORTANT: If the outfit set and plugin you want are already in the list, don't add it again. Just add to the list that's already there.

 

For adding the outfit we want to add from Lazman_Outfits.esp, assuming that we are adding it as a new plugin, we just add another line to the file in the stringList section. The form ID we had was 01000822. Again, ignore the first two digits, leaving 000822. Since the first three numbers are all zeroes, we can also leave those off, so the number we need to use is just 822.

 

"dgmagebody - lazman_outfits.esp": [ "822" ]

 

I think it does matter that the plugin name is lowercase. The name of the actual plugin doesn't have to be lowercase, but I think the name of the value in outfits.json has to be.

 

IMPORTANT: If this line is not the last line in the stringList section, then it MUST have a comma at the end. If it is the last line in the stringList section, then it MUST NOT. These are JSON rules. I didn't make them.

 

After that, you should just be able to save the file and load your game, and the new outfit will be in the list to use. As with changing nudity options, this will not affect NPCs who have already been assigned an outfit. You should see your changes reflected in NPCs you are meeting for the first time, when you start a new game, or if you resurrect the NPC in the console.

 

Removing outfits

 

If you just want to remove one outfit, then remove its form ID from the outfit set list for the plugin it comes from. If that is the only outfit used from that plugin, it is best to just remove the plugin altogether. If you don't want a certain plugin's outfits to be used at all, remove that plugin from plugin list for that outfit set.

Edited by ruddycray
Instructions for how to add custom outfits
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7 hours ago, nilead said:

Sounds really interesting. Is there hope for LE version, or is it goin to be SE exclusive?

I appologise if the question is rhetoric, i have very limited understanding of just how much work it is to convert between the two.

Short version: Not from me, but I'm 100% OK with it if someone wants to do an LE conversion, if it's possible, as long as it's just a conversion.

 

Longer version: I don't honestly know how much work it is, either. I will say that early on in my work on the mod I was bouncing between them, and I didn't see any problems, but I think modders have since discovered one or two things that are important to do when converting. I'm just not familiar with what those are.

 

I don't believe I'm using any SE-specific scripting features, and as far as the ones I'm aware of, I don't intend to. The mod as-is does not work with LE - I just tried it out, and the scripts don't run. It's possible that the mod might work if you just unpack the BSA, but I didn't try that, and that leads to the reason why I probably will not personally develop an LE version. The mod already takes a lot of time to develop and test, so I just don't see myself devoting time to repeating all of the testing on LE, too. If someone wants to unpack it and figure out how to get it working on LE, I have no problem with them putting up a conversion, as long as there aren't any features added or removed to make them get out of sync.

 

But if there are bugs that exist on LE that don't exist on SE, I probably won't spend any time to debug them. If the theoretical conversion creator wants to do so, I'd definitely consider incorporating fixes (as long as they work on the SE version), but I won't be developing them.

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9 hours ago, GrimDoom said:

This looks very promising, i really hope you are planning continuing working on this, specially since this passed a bit unnoticed, not many are playing quest mods in SE it seems.

 

 

I haven't given up yet ?

 

Currently working on one of the skill-building ideas I mentioned in "Planned Features".

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On 1/31/2020 at 2:54 AM, ruddycray said:

I haven't given up yet ?

 

Currently working on one of the skill-building ideas I mentioned in "Planned Features".

That's great, being playing with it and i'm loving it so far, the amount of content is bigger than many 0.5 mods, and it has less bugs as well, haven't found any significant one yet.

 

Quests are superb , it's like playing real vanilla quests but with more options, they really encourage exploration and roleplaying as a prostitute. My favorire is Morthal.

 

 

 

 

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On 2/2/2020 at 12:09 PM, GrimDoom said:

That's great, being playing with it and i'm loving it so far, the amount of content is bigger than many 0.5 mods, and it has less bugs as well, haven't found any significant one yet.

 

Quests are superb , it's like playing real vanilla quests but with more options, they really encourage exploration and roleplaying as a prostitute. My favorire is Morthal.

Thanks, I appreciate the kind words. Glad you're enjoying it.

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3 hours ago, zwdragonbone8314 said:

Hi, just a question. For Solitude, how can I find all 4 girls? I only manage to find three of them

They are scattered about. See the spoiler section for details. Since I don't know which 3 you've found, I'll just tell you all of them.

 

Spoiler

Tlatha at the Four Shields Tavern in Dragon Bridge

Siarra at the Winking Skeever in Solitude

Janilla at the Temple of the Divines in Solitude

Kella on the streets of Solitude near Proudspire Manor and the Bard's College

 

If you have trouble getting any of them to agree, you can also use the console and type coc SolitudeDibellasGarden and talk to Eliana Duerra to just hire the girls for 250 gold each. You will have to do something like coc SolitudeExterior01 to get back out again, though. The brothel isn't actually connected to the world (though it will be when I eventually put up 0.2 - that work is already done).

 

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19 hours ago, ruddycray said:

They are scattered about. See the spoiler section for details. Since I don't know which 3 you've found, I'll just tell you all of them.

 

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Tlatha at the Four Shields Tavern in Dragon Bridge

Siarra at the Winking Skeever in Solitude

Janilla at the Temple of the Divines in Solitude

Kella on the streets of Solitude near Proudspire Manor and the Bard's College

 

If you have trouble getting any of them to agree, you can also use the console and type coc SolitudeDibellasGarden and talk to Eliana Duerra to just hire the girls for 250 gold each. You will have to do something like coc SolitudeExterior01 to get back out again, though. The brothel isn't actually connected to the world (though it will be when I eventually put up 0.2 - that work is already done).

 

Hi, thanks for your quick response. I now continue this quest. However, after I engage sex as one of the girls during the party. The quest seems stuck there. No additional dialogue from other girls and the guests, and one of the girls, Kella, disappear. I load the previous save and try again, still got the same result. 

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1 hour ago, zwdragonbone8314 said:

Hi, thanks for your quick response. I now continue this quest. However, after I engage sex as one of the girls during the party. The quest seems stuck there. No additional dialogue from other girls and the guests, and one of the girls, Kella, disappear. I load the previous save and try again, still got the same result. 

That's strange. Sorry you're having trouble. If you don't mind, could you answer a few things for me?

 

1. Is Kella leaving before the sex starts or just afterwards?

2. Did you choose to be with the Redguard ambassador specifically?

3. If yes to 2, does the problem happen if you pick a different ambassador?

4. If no to 2, are any of the other girls leaving before the sex starts?

5. If you go to the console and type getstage tapqsolitudelicense BEFORE the sex starts, what does it say?

6. What does getstage tapqsolitudelicense say AFTER the problem starts happening?

7. If you talk to Falk Firebeard after everyone disappears, is there dialogue for telling him that you entertained the ambassadors?

 

The quest is supposed to advance when each of the individual sex scenes has completed, so my best guess as to why the quest is getting stuck right now is that one of the scenes isn't happening correctly.

 

Answering the above questions would help me to debug the problem in case it happens for anyone else. If you just want to get past it, I suspect you could use the following console commands:

setobjectivecompleted tapqsolitudelicense 40 1
setobjectivedisplayed tapqsolitudelicense 50 1
setstage tapqsolitudelicense 50

 

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On 2/11/2020 at 12:53 AM, ruddycray said:

That's strange. Sorry you're having trouble. If you don't mind, could you answer a few things for me?

 

1. Is Kella leaving before the sex starts or just afterwards?

2. Did you choose to be with the Redguard ambassador specifically?

3. If yes to 2, does the problem happen if you pick a different ambassador?

4. If no to 2, are any of the other girls leaving before the sex starts?

5. If you go to the console and type getstage tapqsolitudelicense BEFORE the sex starts, what does it say?

6. What does getstage tapqsolitudelicense say AFTER the problem starts happening?

7. If you talk to Falk Firebeard after everyone disappears, is there dialogue for telling him that you entertained the ambassadors?

 

The quest is supposed to advance when each of the individual sex scenes has completed, so my best guess as to why the quest is getting stuck right now is that one of the scenes isn't happening correctly.

 

Answering the above questions would help me to debug the problem in case it happens for anyone else. If you just want to get past it, I suspect you could use the following console commands:


setobjectivecompleted tapqsolitudelicense 40 1
setobjectivedisplayed tapqsolitudelicense 50 1
setstage tapqsolitudelicense 50

 

Yes, Kella did leave before the sex start and I did choose Redguard ambassador first.

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11 hours ago, zwdragonbone8314 said:

Yes, Kella did leave before the sex start and I did choose Redguard ambassador first.

That will do it. That's annoying. I thought I'd fixed her before releasing 0.1. Damned AI packages. Pretty sure she's already fixed for real in the upcoming 0.2, but I'll make sure to test that again.

 

So you basically have two options here:

 

1. Hurry and start the sex before she manages to get out of the Blue Palace.

 

2. Select her in the console and use moveto player before you start the sex scene.

 

You could also try selecting her and using evp to see if it will make her realize she's supposed to stay put, but I wouldn't hold your breath.

 

If she isn't in the palace, then SexLab won't start the scene, and if it doesn't start the scene, the mod won't get the event saying that her scene completed., and if it doesn't get that, the quest won't advance.

 

If the Argonian ambassador teleported to Kella (which he might if you picked the Redguard ambassador), that could explain everyone suddenly disappearing. I assume you also got notifications about clean-up stuff happening.

 

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Holy moly, this mod looks and sounds fantastic. I love the concept, especially if you are keeping immersion and consistency with the Skyrim setting at the core of your approach. I'm currently running Radiant Prostitution, but I'm going to keep an eye on this, and super excited to try it out once I've finished my current playthrough.

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2 hours ago, Lugubrious0ne said:

Holy moly, this mod looks and sounds fantastic. I love the concept, especially if you are keeping immersion and consistency with the Skyrim setting at the core of your approach. I'm currently running Radiant Prostitution, but I'm going to keep an eye on this, and super excited to try it out once I've finished my current playthrough.

As much as I like sex mods, if I'm trying to actually play through the game, it always bothers me when they start feeling like they're grafted onto the game instead of part of it. I don't know if I'll always completely succeed at maintaining absolute immersion and consistency with the setting, but that is always my goal. Hope you enjoy the mod when you get around to trying it :)

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1 hour ago, ruddycray said:

As much as I like sex mods, if I'm trying to actually play through the game, it always bothers me when they start feeling like they're grafted onto the game instead of part of it. I don't know if I'll always completely succeed at maintaining absolute immersion and consistency with the setting, but that is always my goal. Hope you enjoy the mod when you get around to trying it :)

Make a checklist of what you want to achieve with the mod. Take the idea from others, but remember it is your own brain child. Opinions will come which will clash with your goals, but you need to carry on to get all the lines in your checklist ticked first. After that try to implement what others want. I am following this thread. Good luck in your endeavor.

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I'm having a possible compatibility issue with the Entertain the Stormcloak Soldiers lead-in as an unaffiliated character trying to get licensed in Windhelm.  Specifically, only one soldier in the camp has the proper dialogue option, leaving it stuck at 1 of 3.

 

Can I get the name of the quest to try and check it with console commands?

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3 hours ago, Imperfected said:

I'm having a possible compatibility issue with the Entertain the Stormcloak Soldiers lead-in as an unaffiliated character trying to get licensed in Windhelm.  Specifically, only one soldier in the camp has the proper dialogue option, leaving it stuck at 1 of 3.

 

Can I get the name of the quest to try and check it with console commands?

Sure, it's a combo of TAPQWindhelmLicense and TAPQWindhelmLicenseSub1.

 

Also, maybe too much information, but the conditions on the solicitation dialogue are in the spoiler section:

 

Spoiler

IsSpellTarget TAPClientCooldownPotion == 0 AND

GetIsEditorLocation MilitaryCampWhiterunSonsLocation == 1 AND

GetPCIsSex Female == 1 AND

GetStage TAPQWindhelmLicense == 110 OR

GetStage TAPQWindhelmLicense == 120 AND

GetIsID CWFortSoldierSonsWounded == 0 AND

GetInFaction CWSonsFactionNPC == 1

 

In plainer English:

 

You didn't just fuck this guy AND
His game start location is the Whiterun Stormcloak Camp AND

Your character is female AND

You've fucked Hjornskar and need to fuck 3 guys OR

You've fucked 3 guys and want to keep fucking AND

This guy isn't a wounded soldier AND

This guy is in the CWSonsFactionNPC faction (editor ID 1c9fd)

 

Do you by chance have a mod that adds more soldiers or something? Something that jumps out at me in these conditions that could break in the right conditions is that if a mod adds more soldiers but doesn't put them directly in the camp (it moves them to the camp from somewhere else), the soldier's "editor location" won't be the camp, and he won't have the dialogue. I should probably check if the soldier's "current" location is the camp instead.

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