Maria Eden SE

[Xuvish]

Is there an English translation for the LE version?

 

 

[dot00]

Clothes dosent appeare in in the outfit maneger, and the clothes from start dosent equip , and when i try to add outfit it says outfit add , but i cant loaded and then it keeps stuck between "maria eden started" and "click enter to open or..." so any idea how can i solve this ?and sorry for my bad eng 

[dopem]

Both "MESKSEUtils.dll" in the original file and the extra fix you uploaded are broken. I could only make the warning at MO2 disappear with the dll from the archive @zaira uploaded.

[BigMoistAss]

On 12/6/2019 at 4:14 AM, Nerine_Chan said:

I have a similar problem. I removed alternate start but when I try to start a new game with this mod installed, I get a black screen and I can hear the game sounds. 

I have the same issue and I haven't seen a solution for it, yet. Is there something I'm missing out on?

[BigOnes69]

12 hours ago, BigMoistAss said:

I have the same issue and I haven't seen a solution for it, yet. Is there something I'm missing out on?

Make sure the Maria start esp is lowest in order as compared to everything but bashed patch, dyn do lod etc... Also there are other mods that have patch esp files to LAL if one of these is still being used you will have problems. Find it.

[BigMoistAss]

On 5/26/2020 at 11:42 AM, BigOnes69 said:

Make sure the Maria start esp is lowest in order as compared to everything but bashed patch, dyn do lod etc... Also there are other mods that have patch esp files to LAL if one of these is still being used you will have problems. Find it.

Um, this is a bit out of my expertise here. I'm pretty new to modding.

I assume by lowest in the order you mean it should be the last thing of the mods to launch/load? And what's LAL supposed to be?

Thanks for your time!

[BigOnes69]

14 hours ago, BigMoistAss said:

Um, this is a bit out of my expertise here. I'm pretty new to modding.

I assume by lowest in the order you mean it should be the last thing of the mods to launch/load? And what's LAL supposed to be?

Thanks for your time!

Sorry i meant mariastart.esp not lal. It should be lower in the order. There are lovers lab mods out there that have patches for maria eden. You being new probaly do not have those. Being new I would advise against Maria for it has a big learning curve. There are easier to use mods out there. Maria has configuration files that need to be taken care of by hand and is in alpha/beta stage. If you want to use Maria i would concentrate on learning on using a mod manager and editing configuration files. Then read something like the S.T.E.P. guides to modifying skyrim. a little reading will save you a lot of headache in the future.

[BigMoistAss]

8 hours ago, BigOnes69 said:

Sorry i meant mariastart.esp not lal. It should be lower in the order. There are lovers lab mods out there that have patches for maria eden. You being new probaly do not have those. Being new I would advise against Maria for it has a big learning curve. There are easier to use mods out there. Maria has configuration files that need to be taken care of by hand and is in alpha/beta stage. If you want to use Maria i would concentrate on learning on using a mod manager and editing configuration files. Then read something like the S.T.E.P. guides to modifying skyrim. a little reading will save you a lot of headache in the future.

Ah, fair enough. Thanks for the heads-up!

[Jettrail]

Ive encountered a few problems. For some reason most of the scenes dont play, like whipping and BDSM that involves furniture. Also i cant get the training scenes to work, like the bandit camp and giant training. I just pick some option and the pimp and char just stand around awkwardly without anything happening. I can even move normally afterwards and continue playing without getting teleported or anything. Can someone tell me whats the issue maybe?

[rexdraconigenarum]

On 3/27/2020 at 2:41 PM, AWHA said:

If you ever find the time, do you mind a step-by-step instruction for how to get outfits working? I read the instructions many times and tried everything I can think of, yet the Outfit Manager simply doesn't do anything. When I try to equip an outfit by selecting an outfit category using the wheel menu, nothing happens, no list of outfits, no nothing. It is encouraging that you managed to get it working though.

Contrary to what others have said, you don't actually need to edit configuration files to get the outfits working. I shall explain how I got mine going. 

 

First I did have to make the error from the dll go away. For me the error appears as a notification in Vortex after playing. To fix this I used the dll from Zaira's German version which is newer. What I did:

Spoiler

 

1. You'll need 7zip. 

2. Download MariaBase.7z from Zaira's newer German version here.

3. Open MariaBase.7z in 7zip. 

4. Navigate to MariaBase.7z > skse > plugins.

5. Drag meskseutils.dll to the desktop. You now have the newer dll. 

6. Open the main file of the Nomkaz version (Maria_Eden_English_SE_v2.5.1_WIP.7z) in 7zip.

7. Again navigate to skse > plugins where you can see the older dll.

8. Drag and drop the newer dll from the desktop into the 7zip window. It will show a warning, approve. 

9. See that the modified date on the dll is now in 2020 as a sanity check. 

10. Uninstall and reinstall the now fixed Nomkaz version (Maria_Eden_English_SE_v2.5.1_WIP.7z). 

 

Done! Be warned that this may or may not be a proper way of doing this, as I am pretty new to Skyrim mods and completely unfamiliar with specialized tools. But for me it worked. 

 

Also note that you don't need the dll patch file "MariaEdenSKSEUtils for SKES64 v 2.0.17.7z" anymore after doing it this way. 

 

Once that is done, get in the game. 

1. Use AddItemMenu to get some clothes from various mods into your inventory. Or get vanilla clothing, whatever. 

2. Dress up as you wish from the items in your inventory. This set of items is going to be saved as an outfit. 

3. Press Y to bring up the menu. 

4. Click manage.

5. Click outfit manager. 

6. Now the menus will disappear, but messages will keep appearing saying 'escape to cancel, enter for menu'. 

7. Press enter as instructed and a menu will pop up. (If it didn't, could be a dll problem). 

8. In the new menu, select save.

9. It will ask for the outfit category. Select one (Fetish, Whore, Slave etc). 

10. It will ask for a name for the outfit. Name it and press enter. 

11. You will see a message saying where the outfit was saved. 

12. You can press enter again if you want to save the same outfit to multiple categories. 

13. Now try pressing escape to quit the manager mode.

14. If you can't, it's fine, just reload a save and you won't lose anything. 

15. Repeat steps from 2 to 14 for all the outfits you need. 

 

Also delete the outfits that came with the mod because you probably don't have the all the mods which Zaira used. 

[goten77]

this might be a really stupid question, but how do i start any quest or get a master, things like that? surrender doesnt work, whoring just goes on etc. What am i missing?

[jc321]

You can start by using the 'May I ask you something' option when talking. If you're not seeing that then suggests something isn't running.

[Mammaluigi9433]

On 12/29/2019 at 5:02 AM, McBain007 said:

I tried it with alternative start mode.  I use a Vortex modder.  After the start I see only a black screen, the sound is running.  I start the console and the "showracemenu" command showed a character in a cell / cage.  As soon as I come to the door, it reports that "Maria Eden is not ready yet."  Where's the mistake?  I'd like to try the mode ? Thanks.

im also getting the maria eden isnt ready at door cant wait in cell either am i missing something here anybody

[jc321]

That sounds right, but you need to wait a little while (shouldn't be too long though) before maria eden starts then you can exit the door. Is sexlab installed?

[Lac_2020]

On 6/24/2020 at 6:08 AM, Mammaluigi9433 said:

im also getting the maria eden isnt ready at door cant wait in cell either am i missing something here anybody

If you press ` to get the console, you'll probably find that lines are still coming in about animations loading.  They take several minutes.  Once they've stopped, you'll get the banner saying the mod is ready.  Mind you the mod seems pretty broken to me.  I've deleted all the preset outfits and created vanilla ones - but they still don't seem to equip with the menu or satisfy the pimp.  Also, I had to add MariaOnAll4 to the list of idles in order to satisfy the 'get on all fours' commands (huge thanks to the person a few screens back who worked this out!) - after which the licking feet part then seems hit or miss.  Remember in the cheats menu you can finish your John if you get stuck.  I'm going to give it a few more tries, but it seems pretty broken.  Hopeful for the new version that is being worked on.

[Mammaluigi9433]

18 hours ago, Lac_2020 said:

If you press ` to get the console, you'll probably find that lines are still coming in about animations loading.  They take several minutes.  Once they've stopped, you'll get the banner saying the mod is ready.  Mind you the mod seems pretty broken to me.  I've deleted all the preset outfits and created vanilla ones - but they still don't seem to equip with the menu or satisfy the pimp.  Also, I had to add MariaOnAll4 to the list of idles in order to satisfy the 'get on all fours' commands (huge thanks to the person a few screens back who worked this out!) - after which the licking feet part then seems hit or miss.  Remember in the cheats menu you can finish your John if you get stuck.  I'm going to give it a few more tries, but it seems pretty broken.  Hopeful for the new version that is being worked on.

ah didnt even think to check the console thanks 

[NiNbs05]

Hello Guys,

I hjave the Problem that no game Data is on Top Level at th SKSE Util. What can  I do?

On 10/17/2019 at 11:20 PM, nomkaz said:

Maria Eden SE

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Maria Eden SE WIP TEST v2.5.1

 

 

 

NOTE: I included all parts rolled into one download. 

If you do not want to use ME Prostitution or MEQuickstart simply disable the ESP in M.O. 2 or Vortex. 

 

You MUST start a new game with this mod, and not have any other Alternate Start type mod enabled. This mod comes with it's own custom Alternate Start Cell.

 

Super Duper THANKS and Kudos go to Bmckinly50 for the English Translation! 

Russian Translation Thanks to the hard work of  Stas2503 is up!

Also in Original German!

 

Riften Brothel, Training & Auctions, Bannered Mare Extension, Fox Club, Ponytail Club, House Of Burden as optional Downloads. DO NOT use any city or Bannered Mare Interior overhauls with these add-ons. Not Dawn of Skyrim, not JK's Skyrim, and certainly NOT OPEN CITIES.

 

I did NOT create this mod, I merely converted Zaira's mod for Skyrim Special Edition, and  am sharing it with their permissions to upload and maintain.

Zaira also provided me with the recompiled MESKSE.dll  for SKSE64! 

 

I CANNOT give any perms not specified on the original upload page for this mod. If you wish to alter, edit, or otherwise make changes and upload them anywhere, please refer to the permissions (if given on upload page) by the Original Author or contact them directly.

If you enjoy this mod, go to the Author’s page and give Zaira some love!

 

The following is copied and edited for SE links from the Original Download Page:

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Maria Eden - a forced prostitution and slavery mod

 

Disclaimer:
This mod often gets fuzzy because it allows to bind every NPC into complex quests - even those who are part of other running quests.

If you keep this in mind and avoid NPCs with running quests everything becomes more stable.

For me it is easier to add some cheat and escape options than to figure out in which quests and scenes a NPC is bound. Especially since Papyrus functions like NPC::GetCurrentScene() doesn't work reliable.

Don't play ME if you want to follow any vanilla quest - my intention with ME is just having a kind of unique BDSM experience. Have some funny moments with ME but disable ME if you really want to play Skyrim...

Interoperability with other Mods is not the main focus of ME. I want you to be part of a freak show full of submission and humiliation - like a movie where you can be one of the actors. Instead of spending much time in fixing interoperability issues I prefer spending time in new scenes.

Maria Eden 2.5 guide

About this mod

Maria Eden is out for years now and there where several restarts. MariaEden 1 was pretty much focussed on slavery and MariaEden 2 a mixture of prostitution and slavery.

During the ZAP/DD war I decided to do a third restart and developed a very complex version that never comes to public.

But this third restart was still based on the code base of ME 1 and I reached a point where the CK compiler environment stopped working properly.

I decided again for another restart with a new code base and a completely new architecture that is very much similar to the vanilla coding styles. This is the present and a lot of quests where dropped because today I know so much more about CK and its limits.

The new approach focusses much more on hard prostitution and tries to fit better into the vanilla world.

But be aware - this is still a Maria Eden mod - it still provides a very own and unique view into BDSM in Skyrim and it still take no care about other BDSM mods.

Introduction

Maria Eden consists of a couple mods

Although this document is English currently ME is completely German and voices are German. It will be translated soon but wihtout voice.

No Maria mod comes with a configuration menu. The managers have in game menus and everything else has to be configured by game play or by editing the json files.

It integrates deeply into vanilla Skyrim so it is recommended to use it in a separate profile and to start a new game. Use MariaQuickstart to skip the standard intro.

MariaBase

Almost finished. Base mod for all Maria mods - contains the game mechanics. This mod itself provides no quests that can be used by players - it is a base for modding.

Nevertheless even for normal Players it provides a lot of functions that allows to customize your personal BDSM experiences as much as no other mod does.

If you use it alone it will not have a big impact on other mods but it provides a handy swiss knife for your visit to Skyrim - with or without BDSM.

The Managers

• ActorManager - manages NPCs (Outfits, Parameters)
• LocationManager - manages location (teleport locations)
• CheatManager - manages quest cheats
• OutfitManager - manages outfits
• RestraintsManager - manages restraints (Default restraints, add ZAZ keywords to certain DD devices)
• AnimationManager - manages poses and animations
• Sexlab AnimationManager - manages sexlab animations (tagged based search, favorites)

The Tools:

• ActorEditor - modifies actor parameters like factions, spells
• Startup Framework - starts ZAP, Sexlab and SLAL
• Dealing with HighHeel effects in furnitures.

Basic quests:

• Rape
• Sleep
• Escort (leash mode)
• Punishment
• Dog follower (if Sexlab creatures is enabled) - you can talk to your dog and give some basic instructions
• Spectators
• Random Guests

Dependencies:

• SexLab
• DD Assets
• ZAP 7
• BDSMMechanics
• Soft dependency to Slave Tats - Slave Tats can be parts of outfits.

MariaBase configuration

All settings in MariaEden are permanent so I decided to not creating MCM. You configure MariaEden in 3 ways: Per editing the configuration json files, per in game menus and per game play.

Configuration files

All files are store in Data\SKSE\Plugins\StorageUtilData

• MariaAnimationTests.json - list of animation events that can be called from animation manager. Use this to test new animations and poses from other mods
• MariaCustomLocations.json - this is managed by the location manager - you should not touch it manually
• MariaDefaults.json - some default settings like standard collar for Maria Eden slavery. Managed by restraints manger and shall not be touched manually/li>
• MariaHotkeys.json - Hotkey configuration, hotkeys for the most common functions. Visit the CK Homepage for available key codes.
• MariaIdles.json - Hotkeys for user defined poses. Managed by animation manager.
• MariaManagerConfig.json - configuration for actor manager, contains a list of actor values for manual value mainpulation.
• MariaSexlabPatches.json - patches some tags into common SLAL animation for better bondage sex detection
• MariaWhoringPrices.json - define the base prices to whore jobs.
• folder MariaNPCOutfits - Storage for outfits, managed by the outfit manager. A lot of presets are defined but you shall better delete them all and define your own ones. You can see the mod dependencies in the json files.
• folder MariaNPCs - Storage managed NPCs. Managed by the NPC manager. It basically contains custom outfits and allows to quickly refer to these NPCs.

BDSMMechanics

Subject for deletion. For historical reasons this mod contains glue code to allow creating devices and locations without Maria dependencies.

This mod will be dropped and removed in near future. I do not longer want to adjust BDSM equipment until it fits into teh Maria Eden quests. I will focus on stories and let the mechanics in the hands of ZAP/DD.

Dependencies

• SexLab
• ZAP 7

MariaQuickStart

Finished. Skips the classic Skyrim intro. The player spawns in a small cell with a starter pack. There is a door that leads to a couple of locations including the ones the player defined himself with the MariaBase location manager

If you want to jump right into action you should give this mod a try - it does somthing similar like the popular "Alternate Start - Live Another Life" in a very different way.

Dependencies:

• Skyrim
• MariaBase

MariaDevices

Places ZAP furnitures, cages and position markers in the vanilla Skyrim world

The intention is to place them very cautious where they never affects any vanilla quest

Certain Maria quests make use of these devices, cages and markers without hard dependencies

After a very long and intensive research phase it turned out that it is impossible to use vanilla locations and cages without some helper markers. Adding these (invisible) markers is main intention

I decided to stay with ZAP 7 since the hugh amount of FNIS animations slots in ZAP 8 leads to constant crashes in my setup.

Dependencies

• Skyrim
• ZAP 7

MariaProstitution

WIP. The first big quest mod on top of MariaBase. It provides soft and hard prostitution and is intend to be played as female character. Everything is fully voiced (German). It has a very big impact on gameplay and will most likely collide with all other slavery mods.

The atmosphere is hard, inexorable, hostile to women and extremely dense - but you need to understand German to get the full impression.

The Middle Ages were not a time for a walk in the park, especially not for women.

However - you can use it to earn money with Sex but you will end up as a pimped out whore very fast.

Features:

• Deep integration of prostitution and slavery in the Vanilla world
• Whore jobs - earn money with Sex
• Complex payment system that calculates the prices based on many factors, some of them are configurable, some can be influenced by game play.
• You can offer yourself or people asking you if you are wearing a special outfit
• Complex payment system that calculates the prices on many factors
• Innkeepers accepts prostitution if you offer them a cut
• HighHeels are slowing you down - you cant run in HighHeels

Slavery

You will be identified and treated as a slave if you are wearing a ZAP or DD collar.

The effects of slavery:

• Merchants won't sell things to you
• You can't rent a room
• People talk disparagingly to you and are unkind and dismissive
• Your Johns are more brutal and pay poorly, they don't accept cancelling a job
• If you talk to your follower or a managed NPC (MariaBase) ActorManager you will likely become their slave whore
• As a slave whore your pimp take all your money and will never set you free

Whoring

You can whore yourself out everywhere. In taverns the inkeepers only accept whoring if you offer them a cut and the Johns paying to the innkeeper. You have to ask them for your cut.

You being identified as a whore if you wear a whore outfit (MariaBase outfit manager). Your previous Johns knows your status whatever you wearing. If you are walking around naked some people think you are whoring yourself out.

The effects of whoring:

• Merchants only trade with you after a free job.
• Most women talk disparagingly about you.
• Children avoid you.
• Guards never pay for Sex.
• Men giving vulgar comments.

Pimps

Follower and managed NPC can become your pimp by dialog. Managed NPCs can become you pimp by encounters when you are wearing a slave collar or a whore outfit. Bandits might become your pimp after you finshed a whore job.

There are two levels of pimps - you can become a slave whore and this means that your pimp take all your money an never set you free.

In certain locations (towns, citties, taverns, camps) the pimp is taking over the control over you:

• He is whoring you out between 10:00 and 22:00
• He offers you to potential Johns
• He is handling the payment
• He gives you special jobs like home visits
• In solitude he takes you to the tailor if you earned 500 septims to buy a whore outfit for you
• He takes you to the tavern during lunch time (12:00 - 14:00)
• He takes you to the tavern during evening (20:00 - 08:00)
• He goes sleeping in the tavern at 00:00 and locks you up
• He demands 500 septims from a normal whore
• He punishes you of you don't earn the demanded amount
• He punishes you if you rejects Johns
• He punishes you if you do a bad job to your Johns
• If creature sex is enabled he forces you to some trainings
• If creature sex is enabled he acquires a dog follower for you

The only way to get rid of your pimp is killing him (for slave whores), earning enough septims or the cheat menu.

Dependencies:

• MariaBase

MariaQuests

Pretty much WIP. Collection of bigger quests. MariaProstituion can trigger these quests.

Quests:

• Breaking in the whore by a horde of bandits
• Animal sex training (if enabled in Sexlab)

 

=== Thanks to

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• Bethesda for this grateful RPG
• Ashal for SexLab and PapyrusUtils and many personal support
• ZaZ for the Animation Pack
• xaz for the Animation Pack and the many personal support
• Zadil für Devious Devices
• Tepi for many animations that makes you feel like a slave
• CGi for the many personal support and his patience with me and my Papyrus startup
• Heromaster for the many personal support
• Mavia for her grateful msex Veronica, that has inspired me to create this mod
• Ichabod for his grateful Player Slave Encounters, that has inspired me to create this mod
• nameless701 for Building PonyTailClub,FoxClub and HouseOfBurden and for so many test reports
• vpoteryaev for many bug reports
• aaeryn and some forum guests for english translation
• 11linda (freesound.org) for sound effects
• and all the others, those resources and mods I use

 

=== Last words

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• I am pretty sure that I have forgotten so much - Maria Eden is a very complex mod. You will get surprisingly dialogue options everywhere and sometimes this leads to new adventures. Talk to NPCs, discover Maria Eden...

 

 

If you enjoy my conversion work and would like to toss a coin to my coffee fund, you can visit my Patreon ~ Nomkaz

What's New in Version 2.5.1 WIP

Released September 21

Maria Eden Base history

Release 2.5.1

• Check for NiOverride High Heels Fixes and skip own HH fixes in that case

Maria Eden Prostitution history

Release 1.07

• Fix for broken blindfold removal after jobs
• Simple Slavery Mode event support
• Single whipping job enabled for female johns
• Job dialogs shortened up
• Some more humiliating dialogs

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• Submitter
  nomkaz
• Submitted
  10/17/2019
• Category
  Quests
• Requires
  SexKab SE, ZAZ SE 7+, Devious devices AIO SE, UI Extensions SE, Fuz Ro D-OH SE
• Regular Edition Compatible
  No

 

Hello Guys, 

I have Problems with the SKSE Util because it says that no game Data is on Top Level.

[nomkaz]

On 7/12/2020 at 2:24 PM, NiNbs05 said:

Hello Guys,

I hjave the Problem that no game Data is on Top Level at th SKSE Util. What can  I do?

Hello Guys, 

I have Problems with the SKSE Util because it says that no game Data is on Top Level.

You don't need it if you have the latest download. If you have an older version, you manually unzip the utils file, and drag&drop it into the Maria Eden folder.

[wang3524]

hey guys, I think I got everything correct, but I just can't get out of the initial room, it constant tells me that Maria Eden is not ready. I think it has to do with the whole Maria mod not loading correctly. Can anyone help me?

[morghoth2]

meh, trolling as usual, nothing works properly and the "german only" choice is beyond stupid.

[SR2552]

I'm getting "reported as incompatible when I install 2.5.1 on Vortex. Am I doing something wrong? Is this meant to be done manually? I'm just not sure on the steps.

 

EDIT: Specifically it says that it is an issue with MESKSEUtils.dll from the 2.5.1 WIP file.

 

[SR2552]

Getting same blackscreen bug and Maria Eden not ready. Any solution for this?

 

Edit: Guess I'll just wait for the eventual update.

[nomkaz]

On 12/27/2019 at 5:14 PM, Snook001 said:

Download ZAZ Extention pack:

Export the content to a folder.  Use Cathedral_Assets_Optimize https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/23316?tab=description

Do a full optimization. 

Repack the once optimized,

Install using MMO, NMO or Vortex and disable the ESM ZazExtentionPack.esm.

 

ME will access what she need from the files "animations and restraints".

 

Hope this help.

 

 

Zap8 SE has all that included, so no need to convert.

[nomkaz]

On 8/3/2020 at 5:41 AM, SR2552 said:

I'm getting "reported as incompatible when I install 2.5.1 on Vortex. Am I doing something wrong? Is this meant to be done manually? I'm just not sure on the steps.

 

EDIT: Specifically it says that it is an issue with MESKSEUtils.dll from the 2.5.1 WIP file.

 

There's an updated SKSE file in the downloads section if you downloaded the wrong version. "MariaEden SKSEUtils"

 

I didn't realize that Zaira had updated the dll. SO I added it as an UPDATE download. I'm not sure if it works with the current version of SKSE64 though.

[nomkaz]

On 8/4/2020 at 3:26 PM, SR2552 said:

Getting same blackscreen bug and Maria Eden not ready. Any solution for this?

 

Edit: Guess I'll just wait for the eventual update.

Are you using Alternate Start? M.E. has it's own Game start, other Alternate Start mods will conflict. This is a huge game-play change mod, so you're not supposed to use it with a bunch of other mods installed. If you use M.E. with a bunch of other mods and have issues that's not M.E. fault. The instructions were clearly stated:

 

You MUST start a new game with this mod, and not have any other Alternate Start type mod enabled. This mod comes with it's own custom Alternate Start Cell.

 

Disclaimer:
This mod often gets fuzzy because it allows to bind every NPC into complex quests - even those who are part of other running quests.

If you keep this in mind and avoid NPCs with running quests everything becomes more stable.

For me it is easier to add some cheat and escape options than to figure out in which quests and scenes a NPC is bound. Especially since Papyrus functions like NPC::GetCurrentScene() doesn't work reliable.

Don't play ME if you want to follow any vanilla quest - my intention with ME is just having a kind of unique BDSM experience. Have some funny moments with ME but disable ME if you really want to play Skyrim...

Interoperability with other Mods is not the main focus of ME. I want you to be part of a freak show full of submission and humiliation - like a movie where you can be one of the actors. Instead of spending much time in fixing interoperability issues I prefer spending time in new scenes.