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Hello!

I am trying to figure out a good way to eliminate a neck seam on a custom follower. The follower is an already existing mod, and the issue arises only when I use the customizer built for the follower. I have already verified this is a customizer issue by loading a game with literally no other mods than the follower and the customizer. This follower is the only person in the game who has a neck seam. Does anyone have any advice as to how to get rid of this neck seam?

 

I know of texblend, but it appears that I cannot load a specific mod into it. I ran texblend lite and the seam was still there.

 

I have been trying to sort this out for over a month now, so any help would be greatly appreciated!

 

Thanks in advance!

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My apologies, in my original post I was more of inquiring about methods to get rid of neck seams (such as texblend) than asking for people to look into my specific problem. I was pretty sure I knew what the issue was caused by, and there seemed to be no fix so instead of requesting help I just wanted to know good ways to get rid of neck seams. That being said, in retrospect, that was a dumb way to go about solving the issue. More minds are always better than one so any help regarding my specific problem would be greatly appreciated.

 

17 hours ago, Swe-DivX said:

Share the follower meshes\actors\character\facegendata\*.esp\*.nif file her and we can help

 

I do not think I can share the meshes, nifs, esp, etc... It is not my mod so I am pretty sure I cannot re-upload those. Sorry about not being clear about it not being my mod.

12 hours ago, oldrayzor said:

Yeah, if you can send even a link to the page where you downloaded (nexus?)

I do not know if posting a link on this thread is allowed. I do apologize, this is my first time asking for help with modding Skyrim. I have modded the game for two years and until now I have never encountered an issue I could not fix. That being said the mods with the issue are as follows, and a quick google search should bring the Nexus pages up.

 

Mirai - The Girl With The Dragon Heart

Mirai Customizer

 

OK, those are the answers to your questions! As stated before I have been dealing with this issue for over a month, so let me fill you in on what I know!

 

First of all, here is the load order of the game I originally encountered the issue on. (I do not think it is much help since I had the same issue on a game running only Mirai and her customizer, but here it is anyway.)

 

Spoiler

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
Falskaar.esm
Wyrmstooth.esp
paradise_halls.esm
SexLab.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
arnima.esm
Campfire.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
CompanionArissa.esm
Gray Fox Cowl.esm
Vigilant.esm
Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm
moonpath.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
daymoyl.esm
MolagBalsInferno.esm
Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
Heretical Resources.esm
Cutting Room Floor.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
ScenicCarriages.esp
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
cleaner_castlevolkihar3.esp
SkyUI.esp
FNIS.esp
FNIS_PCEA2.esp
3PCOFull.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp
CWIOrdinatorPatch.esp
VioLens.esp
New Weapon Parry.esp
Draw!!.esp
UndergarmentsForAll.esp
proudspiremanortnf.esp
GreatWarSkyrim.esp
paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp
Pahe_Dwarven_Devious_suits.esp
hjerimtnf.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
UIExtensions.esp
AddItemMenuLE.esp
Eimar's Edge.esp
HSTNF.esp
xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp
BHTNF_Eli.esp
0Kaidan.esp
VHTNF.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
MoonAndStar_MAS.esp
Undeath.esp
Combat Evolved.esp
ArcheryDummyXP.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
Clockwork.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
CagedFollowers - no SD.esp
zMirai.esp
Cloaks.esp
TheGuildMaster.esp
BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp
moonpath_questdata.esp
PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
Phenderix Magic Evolved.esp
Skooming Skyrim by BigBizkit.esp
CerwidenCompanion.esp
Deadric Gods.esp
Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp
BlackreachRailroadNew.esp
daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp
Missives.esp
SpellResearch.esp
SpousesEnhanced.esp
AK- Alternate Actors.esp
paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp
RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp
HothFollower.esp
hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp
Immersive Speechcraft.esp
NARC-Falskaar.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
Mortal Enemies.esp
MoonAndStar_ImmersionPatch.esp
RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp
Northgirl.esp
Volkihar Knight.esp
ApotheosisDemo.esp
darkproject.esp
Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp
Lucien.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
summersetisles.esp
Sneak Tools.esp
Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp
PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp
ArtifactsOfBoethiah.esp
Ravengate.esp
PathOfTheAntiMage.esp
My Home Is Your Home.esp
RideSharing.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
Size Does Matter.esp
ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp
ShadowSpellPackage.esp
binding_spell.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
FGT.esp
HothFollower UFO Patch.esp
JaxonzRenamer.esp
JaxonzMapMarkers.esp
SimplyKnock.esp
Custom Family Home.esp
MorePerkPerLevel.esp
HelmetToggle.esp
GypsyEyesCaravan.V.2.esp
LustmordVampireArmor.esp
Crime Overhaul.esp
DrinkingGivesYourBottles.esp
AskTheWay.esp
BlackHorseCourier.esp
Fertility Mode.esp
Tainted_Blood.esp
mslVampiricThirst.esp
CosmeticVampireOverhaul.esp
NewVampChainsCuirass.esp
JulesDisenchantGodAmulets.esp
Requiem.esp
Requiem - Vanilla Dragonborn DLC.esp
Requiem - Arissa.esp
Requiem - Immersive Armors.esp
Requiem - Immersive Weapons.esp
Requiem - Campfire.esp
Requiem - Cutting Room Floor.esp
Requiem - Deadly Dragons.esp
Requiem - Immersive College of Winterhold.esp
Requiem - Immersive Patrols.esp
Requiem - Inigo.esp
Requiem - Lucien.esp
Requiem - Vampiric Thirst.esp
Requiem - VioLens.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Requiem - Live Another Life.esp
Requiem for the Indifferent.esp
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
LadyTrousers.esp

 

 

Also here is what I know so far:

 

- I have been modding Skyrim for two years, and have used both Mirai and her customizer in almost all my playthroughs. I have never encountered this neck seam issue before.

 

- Both the CBBE and the UNP Customizer for Mirai result in the same Neck Seam. Therefore I have concluded it is not a head and body mismatch.

 

-The problem still persists if I eliminate all other mods. I also use Mod Organizer, so when I uninstall a mod there is no trace left in the game directory.

 

- The exception to this is Requiem, which requires the Skyproc Patchers folder be in the main Skyrim directory. Running The Reqtificator does make a MIrai Patch so it is possible this is causing the issue though I do not see how. This Skyrpoc Patchers folder is the only thing left edited in my Skyrim folder upon uninstalling all other mods (again, because of Mod Organizer) so this is a possibility though I do not see how Requiem could possibly give someone a neck seam. (As stated before I have never encountered this issue before, but I also have never used Requiem before. Coincidence?)

 

- It is really hard to see due to her hair, but the back of her neck almost looks like it is floating above her body slightly. That being, said at least from a frontal view, she does not have a neck gap, she has a neck seam.

 

- Texblend did not solve the issue

 

-Bodyslide did not solve the issue

 

Any help is greatly appreciated. This issue has been driving me insane for over a month now!

 

Thank you so much for your time!

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2 hours ago, Mqinator said:

My apologies, in my original post I was more of inquiring about methods to get rid of neck seams (such as texblend) than asking for people to look into my specific problem. I was pretty sure I knew what the issue was caused by, and there seemed to be no fix so instead of requesting help I just wanted to know good ways to get rid of neck seams. That being said, in retrospect, that was a dumb way to go about solving the issue. More minds are always better than one so any help regarding my specific problem would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

I do not think I can share the meshes, nifs, esp, etc... It is not my mod so I am pretty sure I cannot re-upload those. Sorry about not being clear about it not being my mod.

I do not know if posting a link on this thread is allowed. I do apologize, this is my first time asking for help with modding Skyrim. I have modded the game for two years and until now I have never encountered an issue I could not fix. That being said the mods with the issue are as follows, and a quick google search should bring the Nexus pages up.

 

Mirai - The Girl With The Dragon Heart

Mirai Customizer

 

OK, those are the answers to your questions! As stated before I have been dealing with this issue for over a month, so let me fill you in on what I know!

 

First of all, here is the load order of the game I originally encountered the issue on. (I do not think it is much help since I had the same issue on a game running only Mirai and her customizer, but here it is anyway.)

 

  Reveal hidden contents

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
Falskaar.esm
Wyrmstooth.esp
paradise_halls.esm
SexLab.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
arnima.esm
Campfire.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
CompanionArissa.esm
Gray Fox Cowl.esm
Vigilant.esm
Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm
moonpath.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
daymoyl.esm
MolagBalsInferno.esm
Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
Heretical Resources.esm
Cutting Room Floor.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
ScenicCarriages.esp
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
cleaner_castlevolkihar3.esp
SkyUI.esp
FNIS.esp
FNIS_PCEA2.esp
3PCOFull.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp
CWIOrdinatorPatch.esp
VioLens.esp
New Weapon Parry.esp
Draw!!.esp
UndergarmentsForAll.esp
proudspiremanortnf.esp
GreatWarSkyrim.esp
paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp
Pahe_Dwarven_Devious_suits.esp
hjerimtnf.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
UIExtensions.esp
AddItemMenuLE.esp
Eimar's Edge.esp
HSTNF.esp
xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp
BHTNF_Eli.esp
0Kaidan.esp
VHTNF.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
MoonAndStar_MAS.esp
Undeath.esp
Combat Evolved.esp
ArcheryDummyXP.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
Clockwork.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
CagedFollowers - no SD.esp
zMirai.esp
Cloaks.esp
TheGuildMaster.esp
BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp
moonpath_questdata.esp
PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
Phenderix Magic Evolved.esp
Skooming Skyrim by BigBizkit.esp
CerwidenCompanion.esp
Deadric Gods.esp
Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp
BlackreachRailroadNew.esp
daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp
Missives.esp
SpellResearch.esp
SpousesEnhanced.esp
AK- Alternate Actors.esp
paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp
RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp
HothFollower.esp
hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp
Immersive Speechcraft.esp
NARC-Falskaar.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
Mortal Enemies.esp
MoonAndStar_ImmersionPatch.esp
RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp
Northgirl.esp
Volkihar Knight.esp
ApotheosisDemo.esp
darkproject.esp
Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp
Lucien.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
summersetisles.esp
Sneak Tools.esp
Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp
PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp
ArtifactsOfBoethiah.esp
Ravengate.esp
PathOfTheAntiMage.esp
My Home Is Your Home.esp
RideSharing.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
Size Does Matter.esp
ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp
ShadowSpellPackage.esp
binding_spell.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
FGT.esp
HothFollower UFO Patch.esp
JaxonzRenamer.esp
JaxonzMapMarkers.esp
SimplyKnock.esp
Custom Family Home.esp
MorePerkPerLevel.esp
HelmetToggle.esp
GypsyEyesCaravan.V.2.esp
LustmordVampireArmor.esp
Crime Overhaul.esp
DrinkingGivesYourBottles.esp
AskTheWay.esp
BlackHorseCourier.esp
Fertility Mode.esp
Tainted_Blood.esp
mslVampiricThirst.esp
CosmeticVampireOverhaul.esp
NewVampChainsCuirass.esp
JulesDisenchantGodAmulets.esp
Requiem.esp
Requiem - Vanilla Dragonborn DLC.esp
Requiem - Arissa.esp
Requiem - Immersive Armors.esp
Requiem - Immersive Weapons.esp
Requiem - Campfire.esp
Requiem - Cutting Room Floor.esp
Requiem - Deadly Dragons.esp
Requiem - Immersive College of Winterhold.esp
Requiem - Immersive Patrols.esp
Requiem - Inigo.esp
Requiem - Lucien.esp
Requiem - Vampiric Thirst.esp
Requiem - VioLens.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Requiem - Live Another Life.esp
Requiem for the Indifferent.esp
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
LadyTrousers.esp

 

 

Also here is what I know so far:

 

- I have been modding Skyrim for two years, and have used both Mirai and her customizer in almost all my playthroughs. I have never encountered this neck seam issue before.

 

- Both the CBBE and the UNP Customizer for Mirai result in the same Neck Seam. Therefore I have concluded it is not a head and body mismatch.

 

-The problem still persists if I eliminate all other mods. I also use Mod Organizer, so when I uninstall a mod there is no trace left in the game directory.

 

- The exception to this is Requiem, which requires the Skyproc Patchers folder be in the main Skyrim directory. Running The Reqtificator does make a MIrai Patch so it is possible this is causing the issue though I do not see how. This Skyrpoc Patchers folder is the only thing left edited in my Skyrim folder upon uninstalling all other mods (again, because of Mod Organizer) so this is a possibility though I do not see how Requiem could possibly give someone a neck seam. (As stated before I have never encountered this issue before, but I also have never used Requiem before. Coincidence?)

 

- It is really hard to see due to her hair, but the back of her neck almost looks like it is floating above her body slightly. That being, said at least from a frontal view, she does not have a neck gap, she has a neck seam.

 

- Texblend did not solve the issue

 

-Bodyslide did not solve the issue

 

Any help is greatly appreciated. This issue has been driving me insane for over a month now!

 

Thank you so much for your time!

Mirai - the Girl with the Dragon Heart

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/53867

Mirai Customizer

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/65724

 

In the comments, it sounds like the mod does not work. Thought you had made the changes yourself. But use PM otherwise.

You have created a new head texture? And you get the same error if you install the mod in default state?

 

What setting did you use in the customizer?


* This follower have broken head parts.

Tri files is corrupt.

So to start testing using the default head parts.

Sent you the new heads nif.

 

Head part using the corrupt files.

00000d61.nif - zMirai "Mirai" [NPC_:05000D61]

000a4aa0.nif - zmRenai "Renai" [NPC_:0506B559]

0006b559.nif - zMirai_Young "Mirai" [NPC_:050A4AA0]

What i can see they using the same head, small change on the neck.

 

Import in race menu and export. And merg only the head with Merg NPC.

 

Mirai fix.esp

 

After this the head will now respond to mods editing the face.

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8 hours ago, Swe-DivX said:

You have created a new head texture?

No, I have not touched the textures myself. The customizer also does not have an option to do anything to her head, or hair. Her head should theoretically be her default head texture. That being said, the folder containing the customizer information generated by Mod Organizer does have head data. Even though the customizer does not give me any head or hair options it clearly does something to her head. It most likely is trying to make sure there is not a head to body mismatch, and probably edits the head according to what body is selected.

 

8 hours ago, Swe-DivX said:

And you get the same error if you install the mod in default state?

Without the customizer she does not appear to have any sort of neck seam. I am not sure what to make of this, but I am thinking the issue is something with the customizer.

 

8 hours ago, Swe-DivX said:

What setting did you use in the customizer?

All of them. I tried practically every combination of settings in the customizer to see if any of them did not have the neck seam. They all had the neck seam regardless. I was initially using the CBBE customizer, and I thought maybe she was just not compatible with CBBE. As a result I switched to the UNP customizer, and it had the same neck seam.

 

8 hours ago, Swe-DivX said:

Import in race menu and export. And merg only the head with Merg NPC.

Can you explain to me Merge NPC? I am familiar with importing and exporting from racemenu but I have no idea how to do a merge NPC.

Also I will try this tonight when I get back home! I will let you know how it goes

 

Thank you so much for your help! I really appreciate it!

 

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On 10/8/2019 at 11:47 PM, Swe-DivX said:

 

Import in race menu and export. And merg only the head with Merg NPC.

I changed out the nif files for the files you sent me. The result was as follows:

 

-Neck seam seemed to be less noticeable. It is still definitely there but less noticeable. What is my next step in getting rid of it completely?

 

-Mirai's default outfit (The one she wears when you first meet her) now has a neck gap. Is there any way to fix that?

 

Thank you again for all your help, I really appreciate it! This problem has been driving me crazy!

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