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7 hours ago, FO4Life said:

 

With female companion (Ellen... because I find her really sexy) and female Sole Survivor, the Strap-on always appears, always is nicely aligned, but sometimes (at the moment it seems like most times but I haven't tested it much yet) at the end of the sex scene (Starting with last message window leading into Cleaning Up phase) I get a persistant white screen and I can't progress the game... so I just load up prior save and continue, no biggie. Any idea how I can try to determine such a conflict?

 

 

This sounds to me like you've used the toggle menu ("tm") console command to turn off the game ui for screenshot purposes, forgotten to turn it back on afterwards, and then one of Hardship's text boxes has popped up. But because you've toggled menus off, all you'll see is the accompanying white screen because the text box is invisible.

 

I've had the exact same thing happen to me when I've forgotten to toggle tm back on during Hardship scenes. You'll eventually just get stuck with a white screen until you enter tm in the console again.

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2 hours ago, Yossarian13 said:

 

This sounds to me like you've used the toggle menu ("tm") console command to turn off the game ui for screenshot purposes, forgotten to turn it back on afterwards, and then one of Hardship's text boxes has popped up. But because you've toggled menus off, all you'll see is the accompanying white screen because the text box is invisible.

 

I've had the exact same thing happen to me when I've forgotten to toggle tm back on during Hardship scenes. You'll eventually just get stuck with a white screen until you enter tm in the console again.

Hi Yossarian13,

and thanks for your reply! No, I haven't used any Console Commands during the sex scenes but your suggestion is interesting. When the scenes start, my POV is at (roughly) centre of animation (between the characters): I guess that this is the same for everybody? When this first happened, I used arrow keys to navigate camera to get view I wanted... perhaps the use of arrow keys can trigger something? I'm guessing here. I will try and duplicate whitescreen and then see if I can "tm" away the problem. Thanks!

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1 hour ago, FO4Life said:

Hi Yossarian13,

and thanks for your reply! No, I haven't used any Console Commands during the sex scenes but your suggestion is interesting. When the scenes start, my POV is at (roughly) centre of animation (between the characters): I guess that this is the same for everybody? When this first happened, I used arrow keys to navigate camera to get view I wanted... perhaps the use of arrow keys can trigger something? I'm guessing here. I will try and duplicate whitescreen and then see if I can "tm" away the problem. Thanks!

 

Yeah, next time you get the white screen see what happens when you press the tilde key to bring up the console. If I'm correct and you have the game ui turned off, then the console won't actually visibly appear when you press the tilde key but it will pause the game (and you can still use the console even though you can't see it, so press tilde and then just type tm and hit enter). If that works, then you should see a text box appear on top of the white background and you're good to go.

 

If toggling tm on and off does in fact solve your problem, then you must have some other mod or maybe an AAF ini setting somewhere that's disabling your game ui during AAF scenes and causing the problem. But I don't think it would be anything related to Hardship itself — it's an issue that's only apparent when you're using Hardship because Hardship uses lots of text boxes (with white backgrounds) that require the game ui to be turned on in order to function, whereas other AAF mods don't tend to use text boxes during scenes.

 

Edit: in regards to your question about camera controls, I have things set so that I have a free cam during scenes (if memory serves I think I control it with the WASD keys rather than arrows). I think there's an option in the AAF Settings ini file to enable the free cam.

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Good call Yossarian13, but results not as expected... but now I believe that it must be my load or mod integrity that is causing the problem. And FYI, I mistakenly wrote last post that I used arrow keys to navigate camera during Hardship sex scenes... of course I don't! I use the WASD keys doh!

 

Persistant WHITESCREEN at end of HARDSHIP sex scene (starting just after last Text Window displays) with VIOXSIS's Strap-On mod (FF)

- when whitescreen appears (each time, for me at least, when Hardship sex scene phase change) after Strap-On scene for the final time, the whitescreen persists and I lose all normal game control

- calling Console Command works: I tried Yossarian13's idea of using "tm" but this does not change the game freeze or whitescreen

- however, teleporting (coc RedRocketext) did work and reset the interface and the game then worked normally

 

I am going to reinstall all mods associated with AAF and Hardship and double-check load order...

 

The SECOND ANOMALY I encountered (as mentioned above) was that with a Male Sole Survivor and a female companion, when Hardship textually describes that partner wants MSS to perform oral sex on her, the scene is "role-reversed" with Female Companion going down on MSS and the animation protrays cunnilingus. Are the two issues linked? Time will tell...

 

Thanks!

 

EDIT (after reinstalling all AAF / Themes / Animations / Vioxsis / Hardship)...

- double-checked load order... I had Vioxsis's mod at bottom so I changed this to just under AAF main and before all other associated mods

- removed BP70 animations as I use CBBE (doh again)

- retested... all FF scenes work fine, including Strap-On animations EXCEPT (and every time) when changing stage to anal (FSS with strap-on) this somehow causes (cause is a big word... maybe a perfect correlation so far in my testing implying a need to investigate further?) persistant Whitescreen at end of Hardship/Vioxsis animation. Again coc teleporting refreshes/resets interface to normal.

 

Will continue trying to find a solution but am scratching my head at the moment.

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1 hour ago, Divinemight99 said:

Does this mod still conflict with AAF Violate?

It doesn't as far as I know. As long as you aren't in BW mode or have the menacing raiders turned off. If there is a specific conflict that's come up before refresh my memory.

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3 hours ago, FO4Life said:

 

- retested... all FF scenes work fine, including Strap-On animations EXCEPT (and every time) when changing stage to anal (FSS with strap-on) this somehow causes (cause is a big word... maybe a perfect correlation so far in my testing implying a need to investigate further?) persistant Whitescreen at end of Hardship/Vioxsis animation. Again coc teleporting refreshes/resets interface to normal.

 

Will continue trying to find a solution but am scratching my head at the moment.

 

Okay I'll look into it. That narrows it down.

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Welp... I looked over the Female customer anal section and I couldn't find any instances where the white screen shouldn't be dismissed. I'll attach the source if anybody else wants to try to find it:

 

_T_Vanilla.psc

 

When I eventually get to testing 1.6 I'll try to recreate the issue, but it's super unlikely Hardship will get an update before then... But if somebody finds a problem with the script I'll post a fixed version in the thread.

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Thanks for the help Tentacus,

But now I am really thinking it must be a problem on my side... the role-reversal (female partner wanting oral sex then performing it on MSS still occurs (I generally play female sole survivors but I wanted to test the original whitecreen problem using a male sole survivor to eliminate if the problem were coming from Companion Ellen... then discovered this) is not the only error I have with a male sole survivor: when I approach a (non-companion) female NPC and offer sex services, and after she accepts, the next dialogue is always the Robbery/Murder/Abduction option... I cannot think that this is normal and and really now have no clue what to try next... I came back to the game a week ago and performed a clean install of everything (game, mods, even MO2) and thoroughly read your installtion instructions and the AAF ones (a lot had changed since I last played). I am pretty confident that I have respected the load order. I reinstalled (replaced) AAF, Hardship and all theme/animation mods yesterday... ho hum.

 

I am going to recheck everything. Again. Grrr.

 

EDIT... damn the fact that the scenes are random: I spent more than one hour at first loading and reloading same save for some FSS and Ellen action but never go the anal scene... THIRD ATTEMPT at TESTING, after re-checking everything, finally opened my eyes and found download link to UAP and it's requirements, reloaded and replaced everything... and yes! Finally an anal scene; I wanted something to be positive about. Still same whitescreen freeze but this time added bonus of strap-on not aligning properly. FML.

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13 hours ago, blahblahblah97 said:

I know it is early to ask, but do you think 1.6 will require a new save? Was considering doing a new install of all my mods + Fo4, but will wait (don't mind ages - no rush) to start a new playthrough.

Oh yeah that's been known for a year. The entire script structure from the sex scripts has changed from fragments to Topic scripts, and many of the XMLs have changed as well. Not to mention the branching and requirement of TSEX, so it's almost like a whole new mod.

 

Yeah I started 1.6 when it was still called Hardship Final Over a year ago... Had A LOT of growing pains. It's been... a real one. lol.

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So, I assume it's just that my save file is starting to die, but I've run into an issue where the Beggar Whore hotkey has stopped responding. Anything I can do to fix this and extend the life of my save a little longer?

 

Also, I should've expected this save to fall apart sooner or later, running both AAF shit and Sim Settlements was a recipe for overloading the engine, I figure.

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8 minutes ago, KatieLlymlaen said:

So, I assume it's just that my save file is starting to die, but I've run into an issue where the Beggar Whore hotkey has stopped responding. Anything I can do to fix this and extend the life of my save a little longer?

 

Also, I should've expected this save to fall apart sooner or later, running both AAF shit and Sim Settlements was a recipe for overloading the engine, I figure.

I don't know that you should expect Hardship to die on you, hasn't happened to me FWIW. As far as AAF and Sim Settlements, invest some time in getting Buffout4 and Baka Scrapheap going, if you haven't already. Basically you need the game to do a better job at memory management and handling large numbers of active scripts.

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1 hour ago, KatieLlymlaen said:

So, I assume it's just that my save file is starting to die, but I've run into an issue where the Beggar Whore hotkey has stopped responding. Anything I can do to fix this and extend the life of my save a little longer?

 

Also, I should've expected this save to fall apart sooner or later, running both AAF shit and Sim Settlements was a recipe for overloading the engine, I figure.

If it still works with older saves I dunno what to tell you, but if not it could be as simple as loot fucking up your load order so Real Handcuffs is below Beggar Whore.esp. Or also could be a corrupt AAF install.

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5 minutes ago, Moacir Jr said:

Sorry about my lazy question, but how marge works ? She is form this mod? Is she a domme? Or just a follower with a diferent diallog?

 

She offers to become your "pimp" and will take half your prostitution earnings if you're in her employ. You can also ask her to follow you places, sure, mainly helps if you wind up with a rapist or things turn otherwise ugly. She's not really a domme, for that you want Queen Isabel in the Dugout Inn.

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1 hour ago, Moacir Jr said:

Sorry about my lazy question, but how marge works ? She is from this mod? Is she a domme? Or just a follower with a diferent diallog?

 

 

1 hour ago, vaultbait said:

She offers to become your "pimp" and will take half your prostitution earnings if you're in her employ. You can also ask her to follow you places, sure, mainly helps if you wind up with a rapist or things turn otherwise ugly. She's not really a domme, for that you want Queen Isabel in the Dugout Inn.

 

Though she is kind of a severe dowager Mommy type, some of her dialogue reads as D/s light but yeah nothing formal. All the Pimps are on a bit of a power trip. Note you will have to turn at least one trick to talk to any of them, except BD He will take anybody, including virgins.

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10 hours ago, vaultbait said:

She offers to become your "pimp" and will take half your prostitution earnings if you're in her employ. You can also ask her to follow you places, sure, mainly helps if you wind up with a rapist or things turn otherwise ugly. She's not really a domme, for that you want Queen Isabel in the Dugout Inn.

I liked the idea, but where or wich mod, can i found this Queen isabel?

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4 hours ago, Moacir Jr said:

I liked the idea, but where or wich mod, can i found this Queen isabel?

This video: House Parties and Pimps Talks about the pimps. There are pother videos in the OP that show other features though most of them are very outdated to how the mod looks now.

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On 28/01/2021 at 1:01 AM, izzyknows said:

You don't buy Home Plate for Isabel, she "takes" it from you after you've acquired it. She says it's hers now, but never moves there.
As long as the mayor has given his speech in the outfield, and your pc has been accosted by the Guards once, I've never had a problem "earning" his favor.

But, I'm running an older version... so maybe Tentacus changed things..

I see. I've seen a walkthrough of this mod and there she told the player to save up and buy a house.

 

I'll just track down the mayor and see if that works. Thanks!

 

On 28/01/2021 at 1:11 AM, ETSubmariner said:

 

I've seen that dialogue a few times in past characters, and it seems to be just a little into being her pet. She'll take your caps and give you 1/2 back, but you do need to talk with her more each time, What now? Kind of things. She'll give you things to do, lock a collar on you, tell you to stay naked or whatever, but in short order she will ask you to start saving up to buy a house for her in DC (Homeplate). 

 

Once you become a prostitute and go talk to guards they tend to be very interested in your activities. You will probably be "arrested" and taken to the jail for a round of fuckery. After that, find the Mayor. His favor only lasts so long though, so best keep him happy. lol

Yeah, I've gotten several things to do or restrictions to follow but none of them is regarding the house. It might be that I haven't talked to the mayor first though I guess. I'll try that. Since I used an alternate start mod and coc:ed to Diamond City I suppose it could also be that some initial quest might not have started up correctly.

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Update:

 

Whew Been a frustrating couple of days... Mainly because I could not figure out why my sexual gratification effects were not being applied in the masturbation script, but I could apply them by consoling in the potions and using them... What it turned out to be is my old nemesis the AAF Doppelganger!!! You can't actually equip anything including postions on the player during an AAF scene with papyrus since the player is replaced by a body double. It was an easy fix once I figured it out. You just have to apply all the effects after the scene ends (Using bools to keep track of things that happen in the scene)... I am so glad NPCs don't get doppelgangered cause that would make things twice as hard.

 

Anyway I've got most of the player solo actions in TSEX. I'll talk more about them after I smooth out more of the rough edges.

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@Tentacus During AAF scenes, player actor is made 'ghost' while AAF is locking actors. Player character is just invisible and (IIRC) not receiving hits/rads/damage/possible also any kind of magic effects.

You -could- unset ghost flag for playerRef before equipping your potions. I once had a ghost flag stuck on player and wondered why none of chems do anything.

Downside to fucking with ghost flag is that player would receive damage while in scene for duration of this editing.

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