Wonko486 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 So... does anyone have a fix for the VTS where the tits pop out through the top, regardless of the top, and regardless of how many times I rebuild the files in bodyslide, making sure to include the morphs option? Or at least know why it's happening? 1 Link to post
Indarello Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 5 hours ago, Wonko486 said: So... does anyone have a fix for the VTS where the tits pop out through the top, regardless of the top, and regardless of how many times I rebuild the files in bodyslide, making sure to include the morphs option? Or at least know why it's happening? VTS outfit is changing in bodyslide when you move slider for tits? Link to post
Wonko486 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 9 hours ago, Indarello said: VTS outfit is changing in bodyslide when you move slider for tits? Yup. The "Bra", "Inner Effect" and "Inner" (which are the only parts not working properly, the rest of the outfit is fantastic.) pieces are changing when I use any breast slider in bodyslide. Every "Base" option also shows the changes when using the sliders. I briefly thought that maybe my physics plugin was breaking something (I use OCBPC for cbbe.), but when I use the actual bra on the suit, the straps are seem clipping through the breasts, and the straps are reacting to movement exactly as everything else is. Plus, there's not been any problem at all on any other outfits, never mind this exact problem. I rebuilt everything, one at a time in body slide while checking your question, but I don't think it will make a difference. Link to post
Wonko486 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Alright, so it seems like the morph files aren't being written or just aren't working, because everything lines up fine when I revert to my base bodyslide preset: but it's only the morph files for the bras because I can reshape the rest of the suit to my hearts content in game and it works great. I tested it by reverting to a looksmenu preset which was my basic bodyslide, examining, then altering the body by just maxing out the various breast, butt, hip and thigh sliders and looking for clipping. I reinstalled, but it made no difference. I did notice that in bodyslide, I was getting the "no image error" on the "innerarmslegs" ( think it the hex texture, since the other one is the plastic and is displaying fine in bodyslide.) setting even after I reinstalled the suit. Edit: alright, so further experimentation leads me to think that none of the places where the hex mesh or plastic are used have working bodyslide morphs. The base suit works great though. Even after turning my characters into a caricature of a human being, the leather parts of the suit still stretched, morphed and hung on for dear life. Link to post
Indarello Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Wonko486 said: Alright, so it seems like the morph files aren't being written or just aren't working, because everything lines up fine when I revert to my base bodyslide preset: but it's only the morph files for the bras because I can reshape the rest of the suit to my hearts content in game and it works great. I tested it by reverting to a looksmenu preset which was my basic bodyslide, examining, then altering the body by just maxing out the various breast, butt, hip and thigh sliders and looking for clipping. I reinstalled, but it made no difference. I did notice that in bodyslide, I was getting the "no image error" on the "innerarmslegs" ( think it the hex texture, since the other one is the plastic and is displaying fine in bodyslide.) setting even after I reinstalled the suit. Edit: alright, so further experimentation leads me to think that none of the places where the hex mesh or plastic are used have working bodyslide morphs. The base suit works great though. Even after turning my characters into a caricature of a human being, the leather parts of the suit still stretched, morphed and hung on for dear life. Can you send images, bodyslide, game Link to post
Xeldan Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 I remember reading somewhere that the inner parts wont take morphs because they're considered "add-ons", that it was a game limitation. I don't remember if that's actually true or not though. Link to post
Varithina Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Wonko486 said: Alright, so it seems like the morph files aren't being written or just aren't working, because everything lines up fine when I revert to my base bodyslide preset: but it's only the morph files for the bras because I can reshape the rest of the suit to my hearts content in game and it works great. I tested it by reverting to a looksmenu preset which was my basic bodyslide, examining, then altering the body by just maxing out the various breast, butt, hip and thigh sliders and looking for clipping. I reinstalled, but it made no difference. I did notice that in bodyslide, I was getting the "no image error" on the "innerarmslegs" ( think it the hex texture, since the other one is the plastic and is displaying fine in bodyslide.) setting even after I reinstalled the suit. Edit: alright, so further experimentation leads me to think that none of the places where the hex mesh or plastic are used have working bodyslide morphs. The base suit works great though. Even after turning my characters into a caricature of a human being, the leather parts of the suit still stretched, morphed and hung on for dear life. Is this the fusion girl version or cbbe? If the fusion girl one then chances are the bodyslide files need to be updated for the 1.6+ version of fusion girl if they have not already done so. Link to post
Wonko486 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 It's CBBE. Once I got cbbe to where I liked it and understood it, I was unmotivated to change. Anywho! Pictures! -Bodyslidebase.jpg shows my normal default setting, and bodyslidechanged.jpg shows what it looks like when I just went nuts on the breast sliders. I did not change or reload the program or the viewer between pictures, just adjusted the sliders. -Gamebase.jpg is the in game base preset, and gamemorphed.jpg shows the clipping on the arms and breasts when you expand them past the default. I hope what xeldan says isn't true (no offense.) because I tend to play with the in game bodyslide morphs a fair bit during play. Constantly tweaking. Link to post
Invictusblade Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Wonko486 said: It's CBBE. Once I got cbbe to where I liked it and understood it, I was unmotivated to change. Anywho! Pictures! -Bodyslidebase.jpg shows my normal default setting, and bodyslidechanged.jpg shows what it looks like when I just went nuts on the breast sliders. I did not change or reload the program or the viewer between pictures, just adjusted the sliders. -Gamebase.jpg is the in game base preset, and gamemorphed.jpg shows the clipping on the arms and breasts when you expand them past the default. I hope what xeldan says isn't true (no offense.) because I tend to play with the in game bodyslide morphs a fair bit during play. Constantly tweaking. Are you using BodyGen or Looksmenu Morph for your player? Link to post
Wonko486 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Looksmenu. Specifically: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/13627 To trigger the menu. Link to post
Invictusblade Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Wonko486 said: Looksmenu. Specifically: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/13627 To trigger the menu. read this, I won't be sharing the file On 7/3/2019 at 9:10 AM, Invictusblade said: because Niero's mods mostly uses Object Modification to add or subtract meshes from their clothes and this bypasses the morphing. my fix is a complete overhaul of this (and other) mods to divide each mesh into its own armor (and I have batched it up with other mods so I cannot share it) but an easier fix is to add the bra project (or meshes) directly to the outfit in outfit Studio and then save and build it. Link to post
Wonko486 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Well, thank you. I figured I wasn't the only one with this problem, but was simply wording my searches poorly. Going to install and test. Edit: yup, works great. Link to post
Blueset Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 So I've been playing with the VSS Replacer mod and it stopped replacing the vault 111 suits. Any ideas? Link to post
Indarello Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Blueset said: So I've been playing with the VSS Replacer mod and it stopped replacing the vault 111 suits. Any ideas? Try build it in bodyslide Link to post
VonHelton Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 On 11/15/2020 at 12:38 PM, Varithina said: Is this the fusion girl version or cbbe? If the fusion girl one then chances are the bodyslide files need to be updated for the 1.6+ version of fusion girl if they have not already done so. You mean 1.78 Link to post
Varithina Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 19 minutes ago, VonHelton said: You mean 1.78 I thought it was the 1.6 where they changed things or did they do it again for 1.7? Link to post
Blueset Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 4 hours ago, Indarello said: Try build it in bodyslide Ok, I've done that and it is in the game. But it has not replaced the vault suits in 111 on a new save. Here is a list of mods I have installed. 00 Fallout4.esm 01 DLCRobot.esm 02 DLCworkshop01.esm 03 DLCCoast.esm 04 DLCWorkshop02.esm 05 DLCWorkshop03.esm 06 DLCNukaWorld.esm 07 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp [Version 2.1.1] 08 Bememoth Separated Cart.esl 09 ArmorKeywords.esm 0A WorkshopFramework.esm [Version 2.0.6] 0B SS2.esm [Version 1.0.1] 0C INVB_WastelandDairy.esp 0D TortureDevices.esm 0E Servitron.esm 0F AAF.esm [Version 154.0] 10 AAFThemes.esl 11 CRP - Community Restraints Pack.esm 12 XDI.esm 13 HighHeelSounds.esm 14 HUDFramework.esm 15 CWSS Redux.esp 16 TheKite_VTS.esp 17 TheKite_VTS_Replacer.esp 18 TheKite_CaitSet.esp 19 TheKite_Caitset_ReplacerAddon.esp 1A CumNWealth.esp 1B CumNWealth_mutant.esp 1C Zaz Particles.esp 1D indarello_animations.esp 1E INVB_Resources.esp 1F INVB_WastelandDairy_Hints.esp 20 CompanionStatus.esp 21 Flashy_CrimeAndPunishment.esp 22 HAAS Core Replacer AE Edition.esp 23 HAAS Automatron Replacer AE Edition.esp 24 HAAS Nuka World Replacer AE Edition.esp 25 FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp 26 FP_FamilyPlanningEnhanced.esp 27 INVB_Enslavement.esp 28 SavageCabbage_Animations.esp 29 RealHandcuffs.esp 2A RealHandcuffs_AWKCR_Compatibility.esp 2B RealHandcuffs_Servitron_Compatibility.esp 2C Buildable_PAFrames.esp 2D Just Business.esp 2E RealHandcuffs_JB_Compatibility.esp 2F ImmersiveLoversEmbraceRemastered.esp 30 PiperCaitCurieDialogueOverhaul.esp 31 ImmersiveLoversEmbraceMagnolia.esp 32 ASCOCait02.esp 33 AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp 34 ASCOPiper06.esp 35 ASCOCurie01.esp 36 ASCODanse01.esp 37 ASCOMacCready01.esp 38 ASCOPreston02.esp 39 Atomic Lust.esp 3A AAF_Violate.esp 3B Vadermania[AAF_anims].esp 3C AAF_Violate_Feral_Animations.esp 3D AA FusionCityRising.esp 3E AA FusionCityRising - HotC.esp 3F FPE_BabyAddons.esp 40 FPEAIOCreatureAddon.esp 41 FPE_Impregnation_Both.esp 42 INVB_WastelandDairy_Recipes_Single.esp 43 CheatTerminal.esp 44 SRO - Syringer Overhaul.esp 45 MagnoCumGaudio.esp 46 MCG-Servitron-Patch.esp 47 MakeYourOwnSynths.esp 48 UniquePAFrames.esp 49 Spike's Raiders.esp 4A INVB_TortureDevices_BreastMilk.esp 4B BreezyPowerArmorFrame.esp 4C LadyKillerBed.esp 4D Deathclaw_nude.esp 4E ErectionFix_SilverPerv.esp 4F BodyTalk3-LooksMenu.esp 50 BobbleGirl.esp 51 Headcrab_Bunny.esp 52 Oblator_VaultBunny.esp 53 FO4HHS_AAF.esp 54 FrenchMaidFO4-CBBEPhysics.esp 55 luxor8071's HD Texture Pack AIO Pt 5.esp 56 luxor8071's HD Texture Pack AIO Pt 4.esp 57 luxor8071's HD Texture Pack AIO Pt 3.esp 58 luxor8071's HD Texture Pack AIO Pt 2.esp 59 luxor8071 HD Texture Pack AIO.esp 5A Mutated Lust.esp 5B Ghouls Revamped.esp 5C ZaZOut4.esp 5D VXS Institute Collar.esp 5E VIO_Strap-On.esp 5F VIO_Strap-On - Servitron Patch.esp 60 Vault 111 HD.esp 61 SleepUndress.esp 62 ServitronStrap.esp 63 AAF_CreaturePack01.esp 64 AAF_BadEnd_Animations.esp 65 Craftable Bad End Furniture.esp 66 dcc-bp-lol.esp 67 HairVariations_Conversions.esp 68 HairVariations_Elegant.esp 69 HairVariations_FairyTails.esp 6A HairVariations_Sophisticate.esp 6B HairVariations_YoungAtHeart.esp 6C HHFootsteps.esp 6D LooksMenu.esp 6E CBBE.esp 6F FPEDogAddon.esp 70 rxl_bp70_animations.esp 71 SexSyringe.esp 72 Flashy_CrimeAndPunishment_MCG_Patch.esp 73 Armorsmith Extended.esp 74 TheKitePatch_css.esp 75 TheKitePatch_vts.esp 76 HAAS Far Harbor Replacer AE Edition.esp 77 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 78 StartMeUp.esp 79 Bashed Patch, 0.esp Link to post
Indarello Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Blueset said: Ok, I've done that and it is in the game. But it has not replaced the vault suits in 111 on a new save. Here is a list of mods I have installed. Reveal hidden contents 00 Fallout4.esm 01 DLCRobot.esm 02 DLCworkshop01.esm 03 DLCCoast.esm 04 DLCWorkshop02.esm 05 DLCWorkshop03.esm 06 DLCNukaWorld.esm 07 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp [Version 2.1.1] 08 Bememoth Separated Cart.esl 09 ArmorKeywords.esm 0A WorkshopFramework.esm [Version 2.0.6] 0B SS2.esm [Version 1.0.1] 0C INVB_WastelandDairy.esp 0D TortureDevices.esm 0E Servitron.esm 0F AAF.esm [Version 154.0] 10 AAFThemes.esl 11 CRP - Community Restraints Pack.esm 12 XDI.esm 13 HighHeelSounds.esm 14 HUDFramework.esm 15 CWSS Redux.esp 16 TheKite_VTS.esp 17 TheKite_VTS_Replacer.esp 18 TheKite_CaitSet.esp 19 TheKite_Caitset_ReplacerAddon.esp 1A CumNWealth.esp 1B CumNWealth_mutant.esp 1C Zaz Particles.esp 1D indarello_animations.esp 1E INVB_Resources.esp 1F INVB_WastelandDairy_Hints.esp 20 CompanionStatus.esp 21 Flashy_CrimeAndPunishment.esp 22 HAAS Core Replacer AE Edition.esp 23 HAAS Automatron Replacer AE Edition.esp 24 HAAS Nuka World Replacer AE Edition.esp 25 FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp 26 FP_FamilyPlanningEnhanced.esp 27 INVB_Enslavement.esp 28 SavageCabbage_Animations.esp 29 RealHandcuffs.esp 2A RealHandcuffs_AWKCR_Compatibility.esp 2B RealHandcuffs_Servitron_Compatibility.esp 2C Buildable_PAFrames.esp 2D Just Business.esp 2E RealHandcuffs_JB_Compatibility.esp 2F ImmersiveLoversEmbraceRemastered.esp 30 PiperCaitCurieDialogueOverhaul.esp 31 ImmersiveLoversEmbraceMagnolia.esp 32 ASCOCait02.esp 33 AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp 34 ASCOPiper06.esp 35 ASCOCurie01.esp 36 ASCODanse01.esp 37 ASCOMacCready01.esp 38 ASCOPreston02.esp 39 Atomic Lust.esp 3A AAF_Violate.esp 3B Vadermania[AAF_anims].esp 3C AAF_Violate_Feral_Animations.esp 3D AA FusionCityRising.esp 3E AA FusionCityRising - HotC.esp 3F FPE_BabyAddons.esp 40 FPEAIOCreatureAddon.esp 41 FPE_Impregnation_Both.esp 42 INVB_WastelandDairy_Recipes_Single.esp 43 CheatTerminal.esp 44 SRO - Syringer Overhaul.esp 45 MagnoCumGaudio.esp 46 MCG-Servitron-Patch.esp 47 MakeYourOwnSynths.esp 48 UniquePAFrames.esp 49 Spike's Raiders.esp 4A INVB_TortureDevices_BreastMilk.esp 4B BreezyPowerArmorFrame.esp 4C LadyKillerBed.esp 4D Deathclaw_nude.esp 4E ErectionFix_SilverPerv.esp 4F BodyTalk3-LooksMenu.esp 50 BobbleGirl.esp 51 Headcrab_Bunny.esp 52 Oblator_VaultBunny.esp 53 FO4HHS_AAF.esp 54 FrenchMaidFO4-CBBEPhysics.esp 55 luxor8071's HD Texture Pack AIO Pt 5.esp 56 luxor8071's HD Texture Pack AIO Pt 4.esp 57 luxor8071's HD Texture Pack AIO Pt 3.esp 58 luxor8071's HD Texture Pack AIO Pt 2.esp 59 luxor8071 HD Texture Pack AIO.esp 5A Mutated Lust.esp 5B Ghouls Revamped.esp 5C ZaZOut4.esp 5D VXS Institute Collar.esp 5E VIO_Strap-On.esp 5F VIO_Strap-On - Servitron Patch.esp 60 Vault 111 HD.esp 61 SleepUndress.esp 62 ServitronStrap.esp 63 AAF_CreaturePack01.esp 64 AAF_BadEnd_Animations.esp 65 Craftable Bad End Furniture.esp 66 dcc-bp-lol.esp 67 HairVariations_Conversions.esp 68 HairVariations_Elegant.esp 69 HairVariations_FairyTails.esp 6A HairVariations_Sophisticate.esp 6B HairVariations_YoungAtHeart.esp 6C HHFootsteps.esp 6D LooksMenu.esp 6E CBBE.esp 6F FPEDogAddon.esp 70 rxl_bp70_animations.esp 71 SexSyringe.esp 72 Flashy_CrimeAndPunishment_MCG_Patch.esp 73 Armorsmith Extended.esp 74 TheKitePatch_css.esp 75 TheKitePatch_vts.esp 76 HAAS Far Harbor Replacer AE Edition.esp 77 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 78 StartMeUp.esp 79 Bashed Patch, 0.esp You can try reinstall it from scratch, dont know what this mod is about Link to post
cheekiserval Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I've been trying to get the heels from the CBBE version to work with High Heels System with minimal success. Basically I just moved the heels down in Bodyslide and exported the .nif. But for some reason it breaks the bra, thong, and inner mesh. They aren't showing at all. Any ideas why this is happening? I know it's possible because the Fusion Body conversion supports HHS. Link to post
Indarello Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 6 hours ago, cheekiserval said: I've been trying to get the heels from the CBBE version to work with High Heels System with minimal success. Basically I just moved the heels down in Bodyslide and exported the .nif. But for some reason it breaks the bra, thong, and inner mesh. They aren't showing at all. Any ideas why this is happening? I know it's possible because the Fusion Body conversion supports HHS. Probably because you export only heels mesh Link to post
cheekiserval Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Nah, I can see the heels and the base mesh for both the skirted and skirt-less versions. Lemme edit this comment when I get screenshots. Edit: So what I did was I took the heels meshgroup from the base mesh with heels and exported it. Then I imported it into the base mesh without heels, imported the heels mesh, moved it into place and chopped the foot off from the CBBE outfit. Spoiler For some reason, this breaks the other armor additions? I looked inside Nifskope and found that the .nif Outfit Studio exported was missing the BSConnectPoint nodes. Would that be the main problem? Ding dong, I was right. I just copied over the BCConnectPoint nodes from the mesh that came with the mod over to the new mesh and now it works. Spoiler Link to post
VonHelton Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 14 hours ago, Varithina said: I thought it was the 1.6 where they changed things or did they do it again for 1.7? 1.61 cloths on a 1.75 body will NOT show pregnancy, and I love my baby bumps! Link to post
VonHelton Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 3 hours ago, cheekiserval said: Nah, I can see the heels and the base mesh for both the skirted and skirt-less versions. Lemme edit this comment when I get screenshots. Edit: So what I did was I took the heels meshgroup from the base mesh with heels and exported it. Then I imported it into the base mesh without heels, imported the heels mesh, moved it into place and chopped the foot off from the CBBE outfit. Reveal hidden contents For some reason, this breaks the other armor additions? I looked inside Nifskope and found that the .nif Outfit Studio exported was missing the BSConnectPoint nodes. Would that be the main problem? Ding dong, I was right. I just copied over the BCConnectPoint nodes from the mesh that came with the mod over to the new mesh and now it works. Hide contents Gimme a link & I'll be happy to test it for ya! Link to post
cheekiserval Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 3 hours ago, VonHelton said: Gimme a link & I'll be happy to test it for ya! I'm actually working on the rest right now, though admittedly I'm pretty bad at working on meshes. I don't really know how to fix the mesh with sliders, just the one that's exported from BodySlide. Link to post
gmg Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Well this is rather nice to see as I'm coming back to FO4. always loved your work on HF and these mods, a friend and I really love the Overbitch series so excited to see anything of that. Thanks for not letting these amazing works die. Link to post