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3 minutes ago, Viri1 said:

Hello. Was anyone brave enough to test this mod with DD5? I've read that it should be fine, but I couldn't find an account of actual testing, I could've just missed it. 

I'd give it a shot if I knew where to get DD5 lol  For SE I mean.

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8 minutes ago, Viri1 said:

Hello. Was anyone brave enough to test this mod with DD5? I've read that it should be fine, but I couldn't find an account of actual testing, I could've just missed it. 

It should work. DD5 is fully backwards compatible. I also didn't hear anything while DD5 was in beta, so I'm hopeful.

But let me know how it goes. :P

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31 minutes ago, Viri1 said:

Hello. Was anyone brave enough to test this mod with DD5? I've read that it should be fine, but I couldn't find an account of actual testing, I could've just missed it. 

27 minutes ago, aurreth said:

I'd give it a shot if I knew where to get DD5 lol  For SE I mean.

If you are going to test v3.21 with DD5, do keep an eye out for this:

On 10/30/2020 at 11:06 AM, Taki17 said:

I need some input from any of you who have played the LBS quests with the latest DD5 version:

 

For DD5 compatibility assessment, I'm currently investigating why the device swapping in the now legacy function ForceEquipDevice seems to fail on some occasions. The first part in this mod where I observed this was during "A Strange Rock Quest", where if the player already wears a hobble dress when they get equipped with one as part of the quest, the previous dress unequips properly, however the newly added dress does not get equipped. But the logs note this as everything working properly.

 

If any of you have encountered an issue like this at the said part or at any other part during LBS quests where ForceEquipDevice is used (also in the Seeking the Curse quests), would you let me know so we can determine if it's some tism on my end, or it should be addresed in the mod or raised in the DD development thread as an issue?

I guess this'd be typical use case for the newly introduced SwapDevices method, since it's not only a wrapper around the equip and unequip methods, but provides additional safeguards with checks and delays to lessen the chance of failure.

 

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21 minutes ago, Taki17 said:

If you are going to test v3.21 with DD5, do keep an eye out for this:

I guess this'd be typical use case for the newly introduced SwapDevices method, since it's not only a wrapper around the equip and unequip methods, but provides additional safeguards with checks and delays to lessen the chance of failure.

 

As near as I can tell there's no SE version of DD5 :(

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19 hours ago, AkiKay said:

 

I´ll add some stuff in a spoiler below 😄 Atleast some of these i feel like could be a good idea. Not all of them are probably that good but you likely wouldn´t want a dialogue tree of a million options anyway  🤣

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(Just wanna mention that most of these are just concepts and need to likely be corrected to actually sound more fluent)

 

General Questions:

 

Tell me about yourself Laura

 

How did you and Katarina become friends ?

 

Any men or women you fancy around town ? 🤭 (I keep asking myself if there is something going on between Laura and Katarina or if Laura just hasn´t found the someone in her life yet)

 

Ever heard of the Dragonborn ? (Not really related to if the Player is the Dragonborn, just generally if she heard of her/him and if she ever wanted to meet her/him)

 

Any interesting or weird customers you had ?

 

Whats the weirdest thing someone has asked of you ?

 

How did you get into adventuring and what made you stop to open this shop ?

 

Do you think Adventuring could be something for me ? (For players that start off being more of a villager. Laura would also mention the dangers that lurk in all the dark areas of skyrim)

 

Any tips for an Adventurer/Aspiring Adventurer ? (How to not get caught in the devious traps of skyrim and well.. how to kinda not die 😜 )

 

Do you miss going on Adventures ? --> Could you see yourself going on Adventures again sometime ? (follow-up question)

 

Any interesting tales of your Adventures ?

 

Did you ever have a "This is where i die" moment ?

 

Still own your old Armor and Blade ?

 

Hey Laura im completely new to bondage/ask myself what your shop really sells , could you give me a short explanation/lesson ?

 

Personal/Kinky-related Questions:

 

What kind of stuff are you into if i may ask ? (Kinks, Fantasies etc.)

 

I´ve always asked myself, how does your catsuit feel ? (Laura could ask if you´d like a similar one to try it out yourself)

 

How come you wear a catsuit and Katarina doesn´t ?

 

Have you ever dreamt of having/owning a bottom (slave) ? --> Let me know if you´d ever fancy one, yes ?  *wink wink*  (follow-up sentence)  😁

 

Hey Laura, I heard you mention cursed devices you don´t sell... (Laura mentions this in one of her dialogues, likely the one where she explains where the devices come from i think) --> Could you show me some ? I am quite interested in what devious things they did to you. (follow-up sentence) (Basically a few mentionable ones that Laura has a backstory for) (Also like some sort of "If you go on adventures, be careful as you may come across very wicked devices like these", kind of like a warning)

 

Laura I`m not sure if this whole bondage thing is for me.. im kind of scared... (Laura would try to explain to a more shy or scared character that bondage is more than just slavery,torture and horrid fates which are things that scare the character and commonly could be related to bondage in skyrim. Laura could also offer a little try-out with some common devices)

 

Let me know if anything/anyone ever bothers you yes ? I´ll help you no matter how difficult it may be Laura! 😊

 

Any devices you´d recommend ? I´d like to get into bondage myself.

 

How do you advertise your shop/keep your shop alive ? (She would mention/offer the chastity belt quest the player (and other kinky adventurers) can start and other things/people that help her advertise, if there are any)

 

How do you keep yourself in shape like this ? Clearly you must have a secret! 😄

 

 

Also about the quests you mention, that could be great idea. If the story really is dark, a little calm-down phase and some pleasant time you can spend with Laura and Katarina would be nice! Kind of like a "Thank You" and "You deserve some rest". For example I´m playing a really well written game featuring a ton of kinky and exciting stuff atm, however mostly what keeps me playing is the interesting characters featuring lots to explore about them and awesome scenes you can spend with them. It´s not only about "fuck fuck fuck" , the game has these magical moments where all the stars align and you and your partner are kind of in that "we both just lie there, the moonlight shining above" moment. You know, those really special moments! And I feel like that stuff would be really nice to see in your mod! Doesn´t have to be about sex, just pleasant moments you spend together, taking a break of the horrible world that is skyrim. But maybe that´s not at all what you mean with lighthearted quests and just my dreams hoping to come true 😅

I like this suggestion of some light times added in. The first thing that sprang to my mind was visiting a lake with Laura and Kat, and swimming. As much as I do enjoy seeing Laura in her outfit, the idea of skinny dipping with her is pretty nice too! 😍 

 

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Ok, new issue.  Due to problems with another mod I had to reset DD, which poofed the Laura Belt and plug, but did not complete the quest.  I know I can do that from the console somehow, but can't figure out what the quest ID is.  Any help?

 

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14 hours ago, JustMe469 said:

I like this suggestion of some light times added in. The first thing that sprang to my mind was visiting a lake with Laura and Kat, and swimming. As much as I do enjoy seeing Laura in her outfit, the idea of skinny dipping with her is pretty nice too! 😍

Skinny dipping is hard to do though. Playing a scene outside is asking for a dragon or bears to mess it up.

But I like the idea.

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, aurreth said:

Ok, new issue.  Due to problems with another mod I had to reset DD, which poofed the Laura Belt and plug, but did not complete the quest.  I know I can do that from the console somehow, but can't figure out what the quest ID is.  Any help?

Honestly, I don't know if there's a console command to unequip a device safely. And there's always a risk that it breaks something.

I suggest going back to a save before you had the belt on.

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I've got an idea for a scripted bondage event that might fit within the mod.

 

Laura hires the player to retrieve a specific set of prisoner chains from an abandoned prison.  (not the literal Abandoned Prison, a small custom location like the slaver hideout.)  The dungeon can't be exited the same way it is entered, and the exit is guarded by a leveled enemy monster of some kind.  (something the Dragonborn should be able to defeat 1v1 easily, but a random citizen might be afraid of.)  There is also some other conventional treasure there that Laura wants.

 

When you enter the dungeon and find the treasure, it includes a note that the monster guarding the exit has been trained not to attack guards, or restrained prisoners.  The dragonborn puts on the restraints, not because they're cursed, but because the note exaggerates the power of the guardian monster.

 

The thief from earlier in the questline (or any other convenient character) has followed the player stealthily, but didn't have a chance to read the note.  Seeing the player chain herself up, she assumes the player is just *that* kinky and steals the key, the treasure, and runs for the exit.

 

The player has to hobble-walk after the thief until she catches up to her just before the monster.  The thief doesn't think she can beat it, so comes up with a plan to escape.

 

The thief wants to pretend to be a guard, while escorting the player.  She thinks her bluffing skills are up to the task.

 

This could play out a few different ways.

 

1.  Player agrees.  The ruse works, but the thief runs away after, taking the treasure and key with her.  Laura unlocks the player when she returns to the shop.

 

2. Player demands to be released to fight the monster.  (easy Persuade or Intimidate check)  Thief agrees, and player kills it.  Thief runs away with treasure during battle.

 

3. Player demands to be released and that the thief hand over the treasure before the fight starts.  (difficult Persuade or Intimidate check)  Only way to get full reward from Laura.

 

 

If this doesn't fit precisely in your story, feel free to use any part of it as you see fit.  I just like quests where the player gets tricked into bondage, rather than physically overpowered and forced into it.

23 hours ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

Maybe one where Katarina finally tries on an armbinder like she promised.

Also, I'm really looking forward to this wholesome, kinky moment.

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4 hours ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

Honestly, I don't know if there's a console command to unequip a device safely. And there's always a risk that it breaks something.

I suggest going back to a save before you had the belt on.

 

If I did that I'd just end up going back to the issue that caused me to safeword in the first place.

 

I did discover what I think might be a fix to the issue (random NPC's following me all over the world and then standing there clapping).  Of course I had to slaughter half of Riverwood to do it lol

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3 hours ago, aurreth said:

 

If I did that I'd just end up going back to the issue that caused me to safeword in the first place.

 

I did discover what I think might be a fix to the issue (random NPC's following me all over the world and then standing there clapping).  Of course I had to slaughter half of Riverwood to do it lol

Ok, was able to setstage and clear the borked quest.

 

New question:  Laura has almost nothing in stock.  No idea why.  Is there a way to force and update to restock the store?

 

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10 hours ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

Skinny dipping is hard to do though. Playing a scene outside is asking for a dragon or bears to mess it up.

But I like the idea.

 

Maybe LBS could have an underground pool? Something built into a cave. And if the player reaches a certain level with Laura, they get an invite? 

Laura: "Hey, Kat and I were going to go for a swim. You've done so much for the shop, would you like to come along? Don't worry, you don't need a swimsuit"

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9 minutes ago, JustMe469 said:

Maybe LBS could have an underground pool? Something built into a cave. And if the player reaches a certain level with Laura, they get an invite? 

Laura: "Hey, Kat and I were going to go for a swim. You've done so much for the shop, would you like to come along? Don't worry, you don't need a swimsuit"

A secluded cave in the nearby mountains could have a hot springs onsen style bath.  As an interior cell, the mod would have complete control over what happens.  Of course there could be a planned event for traveling to or from the location, or an event inside (like a clothes thief).

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5 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

A secluded cave in the nearby mountains could have a hot springs onsen style bath.  As an interior cell, the mod would have complete control over what happens.  Of course there could be a planned event for traveling to or from the location, or an event inside (like a clothes thief).

Yes, exactly!   🙂

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19 hours ago, Tarbal40 said:

I've got an idea for a scripted bondage event that might fit within the mod.

 

Laura hires the player to retrieve a specific set of prisoner chains from an abandoned prison.  (not the literal Abandoned Prison, a small custom location like the slaver hideout.)  The dungeon can't be exited the same way it is entered, and the exit is guarded by a leveled enemy monster of some kind.  (something the Dragonborn should be able to defeat 1v1 easily, but a random citizen might be afraid of.)  There is also some other conventional treasure there that Laura wants.

 

When you enter the dungeon and find the treasure, it includes a note that the monster guarding the exit has been trained not to attack guards, or restrained prisoners.  The dragonborn puts on the restraints, not because they're cursed, but because the note exaggerates the power of the guardian monster.

 

The thief from earlier in the questline (or any other convenient character) has followed the player stealthily, but didn't have a chance to read the note.  Seeing the player chain herself up, she assumes the player is just *that* kinky and steals the key, the treasure, and runs for the exit.

 

The player has to hobble-walk after the thief until she catches up to her just before the monster.  The thief doesn't think she can beat it, so comes up with a plan to escape.

 

The thief wants to pretend to be a guard, while escorting the player.  She thinks her bluffing skills are up to the task.

 

This could play out a few different ways.

 

1.  Player agrees.  The ruse works, but the thief runs away after, taking the treasure and key with her.  Laura unlocks the player when she returns to the shop.

 

2. Player demands to be released to fight the monster.  (easy Persuade or Intimidate check)  Thief agrees, and player kills it.  Thief runs away with treasure during battle.

 

3. Player demands to be released and that the thief hand over the treasure before the fight starts.  (difficult Persuade or Intimidate check)  Only way to get full reward from Laura.

 

 

If this doesn't fit precisely in your story, feel free to use any part of it as you see fit.  I just like quests where the player gets tricked into bondage, rather than physically overpowered and forced into it.

Also, I'm really looking forward to this wholesome, kinky moment.

Thanks for the suggestion. That could be fun as a post-story quest.

After the story is completed, I want to add small adventures and stuff. And when there's no overarcing story, I can give the player more choices because it won't impact a larger story. :)

 

 

 

 

14 hours ago, aurreth said:

Ok, was able to setstage and clear the borked quest.

 

New question:  Laura has almost nothing in stock.  No idea why.  Is there a way to force and update to restock the store?

You can wait outside for 3 days. That should reset her inventory.

 

 

 

 

13 hours ago, JustMe469 said:

Maybe LBS could have an underground pool? Something built into a cave. And if the player reaches a certain level with Laura, they get an invite? 

Laura: "Hey, Kat and I were going to go for a swim. You've done so much for the shop, would you like to come along? Don't worry, you don't need a swimsuit"

That's a good one for a post-story quest. It's going to be a challenge to make the underground pool, but I really like the idea.

 

 

 

 

13 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

A secluded cave in the nearby mountains could have a hot springs onsen style bath.  As an interior cell, the mod would have complete control over what happens.  Of course there could be a planned event for traveling to or from the location, or an event inside (like a clothes thief).

A clothes thief. I like where this is going. :innocent:

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On 11/22/2020 at 3:39 AM, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

You can wait outside for 3 days. That should reset her inventory.

 

Turned out to be an issue where two other mods were conflicting and screwing up dialogues and quest progression all over the place, as well as creating some other really annoying glitches.  Ended up uninstalling S.L.U.T.S. Redux, which is a fun mod but not essential.

 

Note this is NOT a conflict between Laura and SLUTS.  SLUTS conflicted with AM+ and really hosed things up.  Laura and SLUTS happily coexist.

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32 minutes ago, aurreth said:

Turned out to be an issue where two other mods were conflicting and screwing up dialogues and quest progression all over the place, as well as creating some other really annoying glitches.  Ended up uninstalling S.L.U.T.S. Redux, which is a fun mod but not essential.

 

Note this is NOT a conflict between Laura and SLUTS.  SLUTS conflicted with AM+ and really hosed things up.  Laura and SLUTS happily coexist.

Okay, thanks for letting me know.

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Recently started a new game with DD5.  Might have encountered a problem with backwards compatibility, or maybe something on my end just flubbed.  During Trapped Hunter, after finding Njadi and getting her stuff transferred onto me, when its supposed to loosen, the hobble dress comes off but is not replaced with another that lets me move faster.  I'm just naked with the armbinder.

 

Edit:  I loaded a save from just before and tried again, same thing happened.

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36 minutes ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

Recently started a new game with DD5.  Might have encountered a problem with backwards compatibility, or maybe something on my end just flubbed.  During Trapped Hunter, after finding Njadi and getting her stuff transferred onto me, when its supposed to loosen, the hobble dress comes off but is not replaced with another that lets me move faster.  I'm just naked with the armbinder.

 

Edit:  I loaded a save from just before and tried again, same thing happened.

Oh crap, I was worried that it wasn't fully backwards compatible.

 

 

Can other people please let me know if this also happen in their game with DD5?

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39 minutes ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

During Trapped Hunter, after finding Njadi and getting her stuff transferred onto me, when its supposed to loosen, the hobble dress comes off but is not replaced with another that lets me move faster.  I'm just naked with the armbinder.

This looks exactly the same I encountered with the hobble dress equips, but in "A Strange Rock". DD5 does not like legacy code much.

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8 minutes ago, Taki17 said:

This looks exactly the same I encountered with the hobble dress equips, but in "A Strange Rock". DD5 does not like legacy code much.

That's what I'm thinking too. Maybe I'll have to make a quick patch to replace the ForceEquipDevice() functions. But I want to be sure that it's that function.

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1 hour ago, Thingolf said:

Conflicting with "wartimes" mod

That's a popular area for mods, and Laura has already stated that she has no intention of moving the shop.  Since Wartimes is a more recent mod, you might wish to notify that mod's author of the conflict and see if you have any luck there.

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1 hour ago, Thingolf said:

Conflicting with "wartimes" mod (

) it seems, since the house is located in the same area as this shop.

The Wartimes House and the shop are across the road from each other, but unless Laura's shop gets new things in the overworld cell that I am unaware of they are merely close together, and don't overlap to my knowledge.

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