Who do you Trust?

[flutie]

55 minutes ago, joemonco said:

Gotta be honest, I don't trust a guy with the username Cool Hand Luke using an image from Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.  It's clearly a failure to communicate... ?

trust cleavage

[Guest]

wondering how to mumble effectively in threads...

OK nevermind.

Nice people I really liked were pilloried because others had a beef against them.

 

Do you trust or rail against and mistrust someone, someone  that society pokes sticks at, mostly for ulterior reasons?

 

OK my only examples are really rich and couldn't care less what I think, 

 

but ripping away someone's social status because someone else can find stuff they did wrong,

is (or should be) a very bad thing to do.

Find out what your political nemesis did, broadcast it worldwide,

and have them retire to a farm (on a distant island),

so You can take over, and mess up the world and everything in it (because you talk better)

 

Your poo is odorless (except for the three wives, the back taxes, the basement full of plants, the armory in the back yard, and the past they expunged)

Your cops are trained (they just get, depressed and scared once in a while)

Your idol  hugs nurses.

OK he kissed one once because he was happy.

And I, for listening to you, lose a ton of time (which was the whole point, so thank you)

All are punished.

 

I'm not trusted. Too old. I talk funny.

 

 

[KoolHndLuke]

6 hours ago, flutie said:

trust cleavage

That sorta transcends any issues of trust. Powerless to do anything but drool.

If women fully realized what those and their sweet asses do to men they would rule the fuckin world in no time.?

 

[Nazzzgul666]

I consider that question insufficient. Pretty much everyody trusts almost everybody - at least enough to assume that they won't kill you the very next second. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to walk past anybody which would make life rather difficult.

So imho the better question would be "How much do you trust?" and in this regard i consider myself blessed because i'm really good at predicting how much trust i can put into somebody, in my almost 40 years i haven't been wrong a single time. At least not my instinct. I made wrong decisions because of i wanted to have it that way or honestly just greed but actually i knew better even in the very moment i did it. So at least in this topic, my count of wrong decisions is a total of three and now i know better than ignore my instinct.

But don't worry, i had enough other reasons to make bad decisions and fuck things up.

[Guest]

15 minutes ago, Nazzzgul666 said:

I consider that question insufficient. Pretty much everyody trusts almost everybody - at least enough to assume that they won't kill you the very next second. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to walk past anybody which would make life rather difficult.

So imho the better question would be "How much do you trust?" and in this regard i consider myself blessed because i'm really good at predicting how much trust i can put into somebody, in my almost 40 years i haven't been wrong a single time. At least not my instinct. I made wrong decisions because of i wanted to have it that way or honestly just greed but actually i knew better even in the very moment i did it. So at least in this topic, my count of wrong decisions is a total of three and now i know better than ignore my instinct.

But don't worry, i had enough other reasons to make bad decisions and fuck things up.

I read your first sentence and thought of people in traffic, one going straight and the other making a left-turn in front of you.

If one of the drivers is a punk kid with an asshole dad who berates the other driver to the cops,

You trust that the cop sees through the bullshit and makes the correct decision.

(OK I have trust issues, but only sometimes)

 

Then I sort of diverged from your opinion and backed away slowly...

Politics is dueling instincts. People believe stuff no matter the evidence.

So instinct (insert history-of-the-world-and-everything-in-it here) sucks.

Going against an instinct because of a higher power ("Don't drive that car, you'll kill yourseeeeeelllf!!!")

Is admirable sometimes.

[Nazzzgul666]

27 minutes ago, 2dk2c said:

I read your first sentence and thought of people in traffic, one going straight and the other making a left-turn in front of you.

If one of the drivers is a punk kid with an asshole dad who berates the other driver to the cops,

You trust that the cop sees through the bullshit and makes the correct decision.

(OK I have trust issues, but only sometimes)

 

Then I sort of diverged from your opinion and backed away slowly...

Politics is dueling instincts. People believe stuff no matter the evidence.

So instinct (insert history-of-the-world-and-everything-in-it here) sucks.

Going against an instinct because of a higher power ("Don't drive that car, you'll kill yourseeeeeelllf!!!")

Is admirable sometimes.

I totally agree that trusting your instincts in general is no good advice. For once, not everybodies instincts are of the same quality and for the other side, they can be terribly wrong depending on the topic. I wouldn't count driving cars in here actually or at least not in the direction you put it.

These things are fucking dangerous and kill by far much more people than guns. If your instinct tells you to be careful with and around them, that's fine. If your instinct tells you the opposite, that you're totally in control of a vehicle that weighs much more than you and can move much faster than you, that's the greater danger imho.

 

The example i'd rather chose to show that instincts can fail miserably is probability calculation. Here (at least, but not only my) intuition isn't always wrong, but i'd say more often than not. Politics is also an example where i'd say not always, but in majority instincts are wrong. 

But that's rather a different topics. If you ask me if i trust in institutions like parties, NGOs, police,... the answer is no. I trust in people, with differences in the degree. Same for individual animals. But you can't trust in something like an organization with more members than you personally know and also trust them.

[Kaldor Draigo]

i trust no one

[FauxFurry]

1 hour ago, KoolHndLuke said:

That sorta transcends any issues of trust. Powerless to do anything but drool.

If women fully realized what those and their sweet asses do to men they would rule the fuckin world in no time.?

 

That or gay men would rule the world. The Greek Empire will rise again...but not because of sights like that.

[Guest]

I trust anyone about as far as I can throw them. I trust the robber to rob. I trust the murderer to murder. I trust the rapist to rape. But what I don't trust is the so-called good guy, for it is always the one claiming to be the good guy that winds up being the worst of all.

[GimmeBACON]

My dog.

[ISNAN]

I look at trust in a different way. It's not all or nothing with me. It really depends on the person, the task or whatever I'm trusting them with, and the urgency of that task. For instance if you have a friend that is brutally honest in their opinion, then you can trust them in that regards, but they might not be trust worthy with money. Some people I can trust more than others, and some people I trust less. At the end of the day, everyone I know has some form of trust in them. It just depends on their actions over time and their value system. 

 

If you are an intuitive type, you become really good at reading people. Your sub conscience mind is processing patterns and feeding it into your intuition without you being fully aware of it. So when you have that "instinct", run with it or trust it even if it's not correct. You will never know anyway what the outcome would have been. So it's better to trust yourself if you can't trust anyone. 

[DamaLava]

Its not that I don't have people I can trust, I have a good family and a few decent friends, but I don't know how to trust people. I've been working on that by talking to people about things that bother me, but I cant tell the difference between "trusting" and "throwing caution to the wind and dealing with the consequences because I've had to deal with worse before."

[KoolHndLuke]

On 7/1/2019 at 10:54 PM, DamaLava said:

Its not that I don't have people I can trust, I have a good family and a few decent friends, but I don't know how to trust people. I've been working on that by talking to people about things that bother me, but I cant tell the difference between "trusting" and "throwing caution to the wind and dealing with the consequences because I've had to deal with worse before."

Trust for me is about loyalty.....not stabbing your "friend" in the back. I've had that happen so many times that I don't trust anyone fully anymore. I don't let anyone get that close anymore. I trust animals and computers.

[myuhinny]

Me myself and I usually but it depends on the circumstances.

[SpinX]

This is gonna sound unhealthy. No one will ever come close to how much I trust my twin brother. I have good friends who stood by me when I was at my lowest. But I never had someone I love or trust as much as my brother. He has never let me down. And he is always there for me. Even when we fight or disagree on something (And we do sometimes because we run a small shop) I still trust that he won't betray my trust.

 

If he one day told that he killed a punch of people including my parents I'd trust that he had a good reason. Scratch that. If he turned out to be a child murdering psychopath and he kills people for fun. I'll look for a place to hide the bodies. And I know for a fact that he'd do the same for me. I don't think it. I know it.

 

It's kinda sad knowing I probably won't find someone I love and trust as him. But also maybe it's a good thing? I acknowledge that it's unhealthy.

[MrEsturk]

I trust big government, the mainstream media, Google, Facebook, people who claim socialism/capitalism has no flaws, insurance companies, car salesmen, Trump, the Democrat leaders, EA, Nigerian Princes, the oil industry, the NSA, panhandlers dressed in designer clothes, the UN, Anita Sarkeesian, and that nice Indian guy who called to let me know my Social Security Number expired who promised to fix it if I gave him the number plus all my credit card security information. 

[KoolHndLuke]

19 hours ago, MrEsturk said:

that nice Indian guy who called to let me know my Social Security Number expired who promised to fix it if I gave him the number plus all my credit card security information. 

What a sleazy, unimaginative, pathetic way to try and dupe people! Fuck, I hang up on anyone as soon as they sound like they have some sort of agenda (some of them are pretty good actors). Someone tried to get my bank account info that way and I hung up and immediately redialed the number to a dead end in Chicago. Then I called my bank and told them about the incident. I'm more pissed that I believed the cock-sucker for a moment.  

[spaghettims]

On 9/8/2018 at 11:53 PM, KoolHndLuke said:

I heard a woman say once that she never trust a man who doesn't drink at all. I've heard my mom say that she doesn't trust anyone that won't look her in the eyes- which I agree with btw. Still..... if they are anything like me, they learned how to lie looking straight at some one. I tend to give people a little trust in order to be trusted myself.

I agree with the "never trust in someone who doenst look you in the eyes" but some good liars can manage that too.

[Mr. Otaku]

Only those that earn it from. I think this should be compulsory for anyone.

[KoolHndLuke]

9 hours ago, spaghettims said:

I agree with the "never trust in someone who doenst look you in the eyes" but some good liars can manage that too.

You tell a half-truth. I learned that if I mix them, then I can tell people anything I want and sound believable. But I don't do that anymore.

 

 Some people tell the best lies because they convinced themselves that it's true- like my uncle for instance. He works for an international oil company and constantly tells environmentalists that oil doesn't do any harm to natural wildlife when it is spilled- even though there is plenty of evidence to the contrary. He would also tell you that people (and the burning of fossil fuels) have a negligible impact on the world and that everything we are witnessing is part of a natural cycle of the earth. In other words, they pay him to lie so he feels it's his duty. He's been saying the same shit for so long now, that he believes it all himself......or maybe he always did. Idk.

 

I don't trust corporations of any kind. Small business and maybe regional. But, once they grow beyond that then they are much less scrupulous about how they make the money and who they lie to and fuck over.

[spaghettims]

1 hour ago, KoolHndLuke said:

You tell a half-truth. I learned that if I mix them, then I can tell people anything I want and sound believable. But I don't do that anymore.

 

 Some people tell the best lies because they convinced themselves that it's true- like my uncle for instance. He works for an international oil company and constantly tells environmentalists that oil doesn't do any harm to natural wildlife when it is spilled- even though there is plenty of evidence to the contrary. He would also tell you that people (and the burning of fossil fuels) have a negligible impact on the world and that everything we are witnessing is part of a natural cycle of the earth. In other words, they pay him to lie so he feels it's his duty. He's been saying the same shit for so long now, that he believes it all himself......or maybe he always did. Idk.

 

I don't trust corporations of any kind. Small business and maybe regional. But, once they grow beyond that then they are much less scrupulous about how they make the money and who they lie to and fuck over.

Well if your uncle is convinced that it's true then its no a lie for him. Im talking about people that can look at your eyes and tell you the biggest lie in the world without hesitate knowing they are saying bs... anyway every person is a different world i have a very intuition (i dont know if this is the correct word in english) in who to trust from almost the first impression and its pretty accurate. Also from my side im learning a lot of emotional intelligence (since my job requires a lot of that) and everyday im learning a lot of stuff from our brain and behavior.

If you are curious about some of this stuff ill totally suggest you to read some books related to emotional intelligence, you will love them.

[KoolHndLuke]

4 hours ago, spaghettims said:

convinced that it's true

Hmmm......how to explain? I don't think he's as interested in the "truth" as he is in doing his job and protecting his company. Know what I mean? There are two kinds of truth let's say- there is the irrefutable truth - like were all going to pay taxes and die, and then there is the subjective truth that we want to believe or make others believe. His is clearly of the second variety since he doesn't really have any facts to support (or they are fabricated).

 

It's more like propaganda. His job is simply to refute the scientist and environmentalists by coming to different conclusions based on evidence (from the companies own paid researchers) and/or to basically ignore the evidence all together so he can say that coal/oil is good for the environment- or at least not harmful. This may be hard for scientists to refute since they cannot directly link global warming and the burning of fossil fuels- even if most of the evidence points that way.

[Darkpig]

On 9/10/2018 at 4:11 PM, KoolHndLuke said:

That sorta transcends any issues of trust. Powerless to do anything but drool.

If women fully realized what those and their sweet asses do to men they would rule the fuckin world in no time.?

 

They had plenty of time to do so. If they didn't by now they never will. There are species which females rule true but the climates these creatures live in are brutal and require a strong female to protect their young. Human society not so much.

[spaghettims]

19 hours ago, KoolHndLuke said:

Hmmm......how to explain? I don't think he's as interested in the "truth" as he is in doing his job and protecting his company. Know what I mean? There are two kinds of truth let's say- there is the irrefutable truth - like were all going to pay taxes and die, and then there is the subjective truth that we want to believe or make others believe. His is clearly of the second variety since he doesn't really have any facts to support (or they are fabricated).

 

It's more like propaganda. His job is simply to refute the scientist and environmentalists by coming to different conclusions based on evidence (from the companies own paid researchers) and/or to basically ignore the evidence all together so he can say that coal/oil is good for the environment- or at least not harmful. This may be hard for scientists to refute since they cannot directly link global warming and the burning of fossil fuels- even if most of the evidence points that way.

Yeah,got it. Please ask your uncle 'who do you trust?' lol

[Heroine HoneyCrotch]

I know what I don't trust, shit that moves. never been screwed by an inanimate object before.