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The pedophilia “traps” and our final decision about future children


Evaloves4

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Coming to the work yesterday, my luvs spotted short blond and fat woman and very attractive, tall and slim dark hair girl (her daughter) at reception desk. They stopped on fair distance and they commented dark hair girl’s look: her hair, legs and ass. Both of them agreed that she looks awesome. My Ivy asked my Prince if he wants her to seduce the girl, but he refused saying that no matter how desirable girl is and how hard he’d like to have sex with her, he wants to stay self-consistent: no sex outside the marriage. Anyway, they continued to talk about the girl even after they entered into their office. My Ivy was naughty and she purposely talked to my Prince what she would love them to do to her so Lidija can hear it. The “provocation” was successful and Lidija reacted calling my Ivy sick, perverted and similar names. They both laughed hard because Lidija’s “insults” of my Ivy is rather funny then offensive. Hearing them laughing loudly, my Fran came to their office to see what is happening. When Lidija told him about their perverted conversation about that girl, my Fran was intrigued whom they talked about. He checked the registration program on the computer and than he blasted in loud laughter saying to Lidija:

- You’ve right, Liddy …. these two animals are sick, mentally disordered and they should be locked in special institution …. They are pedophiles …. You should call the police and report them.

Now my luvs were very shocked. My Prince protested saying that the girl looks like she is *18 or 19 (*in our country both genders are treated as adults if they are 18 years old). Fran invited them to see her data on the screen and my luvs were in unbelief. Especially my Prince. Namely, the girl was 12 years old. My Fran teased them so hard that they left the office and he called me right away to tell me about it. Yes, I laughed too, but since my Ivy and I were overdeveloped for our age (when we were 13, we both looked like we had 16-18) I wasn’t surprised my luvs misjudged her age. In our country many girls looks older than they really are. Anyway, I teased them too when they arrived home after the work. The good news is that my Ivy wouldn’t try to seduce her before she finds out how old is she and my Prince wouldn’t have sex with underage girls. So, everything went well. Therefore, my dear readers, if you ever come to Croatia on vacation, check the girl's age before you hitting on her because you can easily end up behind the bars. Our law is very strict about pedophilia. Mere attempts to flirt with underage girl may cost you a lot.

 

 

Second thing was more serious and praise worthy. Mom Boss felt remorse for attacking us in the morning together with our parents. She called me and asked me if she may come over for she has to talk to me in “four eyes”. I said she may if she will not bring up “future children” subject. She promised she won’t for she respect my Prince’s will and us. When she arrived she brought my favorite fragrance and the flowers. After kissing Mikey who was sleeping, she hugged me and sobbing heavily she apologized for participating in attack on us, for making me cry and upsetting my Prince and Ivy. She said she was carried on with “Grandma” status that made her wanting a lot of grandchildren. She asked me for forgiveness and she promised she will never force us on anything again. I hugged her too and I said all is fine. We had a nice cup of tea together and we talked about Mikey. Before she left, she wrote apology letter to my luvs.

 

 

Now, about our final decision about future children. Laying on the bed getting ready to sleep, I asked my Prince if he wants to talk about our decision for having no more children. I told him that I studied all about sterilization for women and that it isn’t 100% effective. I still can get pregnant if I will not use “extra” protection that can cause certain heath complication. He was listening my arguments without interrupting me. When I finished, he took some moments to “work it out” in his mind and then he asked my Ivy and me:

- Is this what you really want to do? ….. Is this your final decision?

I said I’m 100% sure and my Ivy said she isn’t sure but she is more for it, than she isn’t.

Prince: OK, witches …. Here is what we gonna do ….. You know how much I love you both and I will do anything for you .. so …. You will NOT perform *sterilization …. Since it means a lot to you, I will do it. I will do vasectomy. It’s much safer and risks are way lower then sterilization for women. (In our country no one can do sterilization if not older then 35. Only in extreme situations if the person’s life is endangered and even than he/she must have doctor’s approval, but some other European countries allows it).

 

 

My Ivy and I were shocked and thrilled in the same time. We know my Prince is crazy about us, but we couldn’t believe he will do something so radical and extreme for us. We asked him if he is sure about it and he hugged us and kissed us saying:

- You are my crazy witches. There is nothing I wouldn’t do for you no matter how much it will cost me …… I love you.

We were very touched by his words and we showered his face with kisses happily crying. His love for us has no limits. It is no wonder why we are so crazy about him and we’ll do anything for him too. If he would persist to have more children with us, we will stop thinking about sterilization. But, since he doesn’t want to have children with us if we don’t want to, he is not forcing us to do it. I never met a man so tolerant and self denying as him. He is the best!

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My sister had her tube tied and she's only 31 but it's whatever you guys decide. Also one day your children might ask the question for having more siblings. So maybe you could wait and just be really careful you guys are still too young to say no more just yet....Well Eva you didn't do too well during pregnancy so looking at it from that way I can see why you maybe the most cautious about it. I'm just saying no need to listen to me.?:wink::thumbsup:        

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My Ivy and I were shocked and thrilled in the same time. We know my Prince is crazy about us, but we couldn’t believe he will do something so radical and extreme for us. We asked him if he is sure about it and he hugged us and kissed us saying:

- You are my crazy witches. There is nothing I wouldn’t do for you no matter how much it will cost me …… I love you.

We were very touched by his words and we showered his face with kisses happily crying. His love for us has no limits. It is no wonder why we are so crazy about him and we’ll do anything for him too. If he would persist to have more children with us, we will stop thinking about sterilization. But, since he doesn’t want to have children with us if we don’t want to, he is not forcing us to do it. I never met a man so tolerant and self denying as him. He is the best!

I do admire Prince as well : in order to prevent both of you to damage/harm your bodies permanently, he decided to inflict the damage on himself. To risk oneself to protect another is one of the most sincere expressions of love.

 

Now, just as Dharvinia said, you have to take your decisions yourselves, and the others should respect those even though disagreeing. 

 

But even though I will  not question your choice once it's done, let me tell you beforehand, while you can still change your minds, that I do not understand it. If it is love for Prince to want to prevent you doing damage to yourselves... Then why, why in the world would you let him damage himself for you ? You do love him and idealize him so much... Why then wouldn't you want to prevent him damaging himself as well ? That is cruel, Eva ! You already had countless proofs of his love to both of you, why would you let him sacrifice himself again while there are so many other solutions ? :classic_sad:

 

 

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@Tirloque

Copy of your post from previous entry

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Let's sum up things :

Pros (+)                                                     Cons (-)

 

BIRTH CONTROL PILLS                                                    

Easy of use                                                  Can be forgotten

Low risk if young age/not smoking              High risk if >40 years old/smoking

Can be changed or stopped anytime            Repeated cost

 

STERILIZATION

Long lasting                                               Cannot be reverted back

Low risk after surgery                                 Surgical risks (anesthetics, perforations and so)        

Relatively low cost                                      Not 100% efficient either (for the most popular technique, tubal ligation)

 

 

My opinion is that unless you're broke or smoking, you're not at the age where pills's risks outweight the benefits... While your young age precisely puts you in the category the most likely to regret having been sterilized. Not to mention you've just had child delivery so some form of baby blues is possible, and you know what hormones can do to someone's mind. I can only imagine your reaction, after having been sterilized, and seeing images like those :

  Reveal hidden contents

 

So yeah, I don't see why you'd go for some method with no going back while you're still young and very likely to changed your mind. If you're fed-up with pills, my advice would be to go for a woman coil (intra uterine system). You change it every 5 years, no risk of forgetting, and even more efficient than pills. There are some risks at insertion though, and it would require you to lower your number of partners compared to what you used to do in the previous years. It's fine not to want more children, but it's not to use inadequate means to do so. :classic_angel:

 

That being said, you can tell to Prince that Malicia and I agree "very much, yes !" with the way he has of loving his son. If other people don't understand the happiness of loving and being loved, too bad for them, but no reason why that should prevent him (and your son) from enjoying it. :classic_wink:

 

Before all, let me say that having discussion about such a delicate matter in English is very hard for me. It requires a lot of concentration, time and effort which I don't have. So please, have in mind that further lines are just short fragments of much wider picture. Just because I didn't say some things in my diary, it doesn't mean I didn't think of every single "why" and "therefore" and that I haven't discuss with my luvs about them. If I would be skilled in French like you or if you would be skilled in Croatian, then we could write a pages of arguments. Therefore, I apologize in advance if my arguments are "weak" and "unfounded".

 

1. You stressed out many reasonable points here and I already did my studying too. Weighting all pluses and minuses I choose sterilization (Well, my Prince decided to do it). I know it is too early to make final decision for I might regret it one day, but knowing me, I will overcome it and will continue with life. I wanted to have a baby with my Prince and I have it.  I'm fulfilled and my life desire is fulfilled too.  Having more children doesn't interest me and doesn't make me happy. My Prince is uncertain about it so he gave me full freedom to make my own decision. If you would know my Prince as I know him you will see that I actually helping him. Also, Ivy's child will be like mine child too.  Contraception in any form doesn't interest me at all. I used it since I was 14 and I had it enough. It left certain "traces" on my health and it is time to stop it. Another pregnancy is another risk for my health and body which I can't "afford". I still do not expect from my Prince to do vasectomy. It's his choice. I'm very grateful to him for making this decision.  I haven't mention a lot from our conversation in my diary, because it will take a lot of time and space. But I have it written in my dairy in Croatian. You can be sure that we talked about all pluses and minuses before we made this decision.

 

2. "Damaging" himslef is not bad but is too harsh phrase in this content. As far I know from accepted publications, vasectomy has almost none consequences for male and very low risks which are insignificant in comparison with female sterilization. It is proven that it improves males sex appetite, erection and sex quality. This is something that three of us wants.

 

3.  I look cruel in your eyes, but that's not how my luvs sees me. Life is full of making risky, uncertain and undefined decisions. Even the best panned decision can go wrong. Let me tell you something, something that you didn't know and it's not your fault and I do not blame you because I didn't mentioned it to LL. My next pregnancy has 50/50 chances that my health can be seriously damaged, that baby can be born with physical and mental disorders and so on and so on. I can't let it happen to my Prince. It will break him. Contraception? Chemical and "mechanical" ones such as diaphragms is out of question. It's not recommended for me any more after baby delivery. Condoms aren't reliable too, so the only option left was sterilization. My Prince nobly offered to do it instead of us and my Ivy and I will be eternally grateful to him.

 

4. You concern for my Prince touched me very deeply and made me (positively) cry. He is extraordinary man worth of every praise. Thank you for seeing him that way.

 

5. I wish I can explain better and wider about our situation and I'm completely aware that I sound selfish and like cold blooded bitch, but, believe me, I'm not.  My Prince and Ivy are my whole world and there is no way I will make them suffer in any way. Trust me when I say: every one of us is looking the best of the other. That's why my Prince did the best for my safety and my health.

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8 hours ago, Jayomms said:

My sister had her tube tied and she's only 31 but it's whatever you guys decide. Also one day your children might ask the question for having more siblings. So maybe you could wait and just be really careful you guys are still too young to say no more just yet....Well Eva you didn't do too well during pregnancy so looking at it from that way I can see why you maybe the most cautious about it. I'm just saying no need to listen to me.?:wink::thumbsup:        

> I listen to you, my friend. The decision isn't only mine, but of all of us. :)

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8 hours ago, Deso561PL said:

Prince went nuts with vasectomy.

 

 

> Yeap, he went nuts because he loves me and cares for me. That's why he made that decision.

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2 hours ago, EvalovesEP said:

@Tirloque

1. You stressed out many reasonable points here and I already did my studying too. Weighting all pluses and minuses I choose sterilization (Well, my Prince decided to do it). I know it is too early to make final decision for I might regret it one day, but knowing me, I will overcome it and will continue with life. I wanted to have a baby with my Prince and I have it.  I'm fulfilled and my life desire is fulfilled too.  Having more children doesn't interest me and doesn't make me happy. My Prince is uncertain about it so he gave me full freedom to make my own decision.

Eva, you're talking as if you knew the future, something even the the very wise cannot do.

 

We're around a month after childbirth, in the post partum period, which usually depresses the mother. It is understandable for you not to wish to go through that again right now, specially if there were health issues, but if I'm not wrong all of you are less than 30 years old. It is not written that nothing will happen to your child, to Prince or to you, specially considering he's unafraid of exposing himself to violence. And so going through the "one child is enough" and taking definitive birth-control measures could lead that child count to 0 in case of accident ; and prevent the sterilized individual to rebuild his life in case of accident or separation. And being <30 years old, those things have happened to others.  Can you see the future ? Can you testify that in twenty years, nothing will have changed ? 

2 hours ago, EvalovesEP said:

@Tirloque

My next pregnancy has 50/50 chances that my health can be seriously damaged, that baby can be born with physical and mental disorders and so on and so on. I can't let it happen to my Prince. It will break him.

Ok, then use birthcontrol.

 

If you are afraid of Prince getting an abnormal child, then why ask him to undergo a vasectomy ? His sperm will be frozen in case of remorse, so he can use medically assisted procreation. And it so happens that the risk of malformation is higher using those techniques than procreating naturally. And I think he really likes children. So you're exposing him more than you think.

2 hours ago, EvalovesEP said:

@Tirloque

Contraception in any form doesn't interest me at all. I used it since I was 14 and I had it enough. It left certain "traces" on my health and it is time to stop it. (...)

It's not recommended for me any more after baby delivery. Condoms aren't reliable too, so the only option left was sterilization

Common contraception is not recommend  right after baby delivery, before you get your first periods. Once enough time (≥6 weeks) has passed, you can use it normally again, just like most women do. Lightweight pills are usable right after you get your first periods (≥3 weeks)

 

Not to mention, if for whatever reason you wouldn't want to mention here you just "had enough" doing like the others, and wouldn't want to bother using mechanical contraception (condoms, diaphragms) you could still perfectly use intra uterine devices (woman coil), some of which do not contain any chemicals whatsoever.

 

So there are plenty of options. I understand you not wanting to undergo another pregnancy, but there are options so I can't understand why you would present sterilization as the sole choice when it's not.

2 hours ago, EvalovesEP said:

4. You concern for my Prince touched me very deeply and made me (positively) cry. He is extraordinary man worth of every praise. Thank you for seeing him that way.

If half of what I've read here is true, then he is among the most honest, courageous and dedicated men in the world.

 

You're right, men of that sort are too good for this world. Let's castrate him. ?

2 hours ago, EvalovesEP said:

5. I wish I can explain better and wider about our situation and I'm completely aware that I sound selfish and like cold blooded bitch, but, believe me, I'm not. 

I know your intentions aren't consciously to prevent Prince of having more children with other women in the future, for I don't know you as that type of woman. But those would be the consequences regardless of your intentions ; and you tend to be the toy of your emotions (most recent example being that slap in front of Boss-father). Prince is as always willing to take every damage you may want to inflict him out of love for you, as it is in his nature to sacrifice himself. But this time, he will pay a price much higher than just a slap to his pride, and I can't let him undergo that without a word DAMNED ! Specially when there are so many other ways...

 

 

Anyway, maybe I'm investing myself too much into this. As you said, this is time consuming, and maybe not my place. You three are adults just like me, maybe I should not concern myself about people who are as able to take decisions than I am. If some people want to learn things through living them by themselves, who am I to judge ?

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Tirloque said:

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> Everything you wrote here "holds" the water. Some argument more, some less. I also noticed we didn't understand each other and it is because my English is not so good as yours. that's why I apologized for poor arguments. No offense but I have no strength to continue to talk about this subject. No, I'm not angry and I'm not offended, I just have lack of proper exposure of my arguments in English. I want to say only two things: I love my Prince more then myself no matter how unbelievable this sounds to you  and second, I truly appreciate your involvement in this issue. I listened to you. Who knows what they may produce in our life one day. :)

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