- The wedding anniversary was perfect in every way. I'm sure we have a dozens of them more. Only thing that surprises me is that none of your LL friends didn't congratulated you and Prince. Well, we obviously have different understanding of friendship no matter if it is real, virtual or any other type.

Glad that your wedding anniversary was peaceful and joyful. I hope that like most pregnant woman, your vomiting will reduce will time. Compliments to the people that organized the party.

13 hours ago, Elf Prince said:

- The wedding anniversary was perfect in every way. I'm sure we have a dozens of them more. Only thing that surprises me is that none of your LL friends didn't congratulated you and Prince. Well, we obviously have different understanding of friendship no matter if it is real, virtual or any other type.

Which friends do you prefer, Ivy : the ones that are there to party when everything is fine ; or the ones that are there when help is needed, in times of trouble ?

Some of Eva's LL friends did congratulate her for the birthday. I compliment them for their tact and delicacy.

1 hour ago, Tirloque said:

Glad that your wedding anniversary was peaceful and joyful. I hope that like most pregnant woman, your vomiting will reduce will time. Compliments to the people that organized the party.

Which friends do you prefer, Ivy : the ones that are there to party when everything is fine ; or the ones that are there when help is needed, in times of trouble ?

 

Some of Eva's LL friends did congratulate her for the birthday. I compliment them for their tact and delicacy.

- For me my friends does both: congratulates someone's birthday, anniversaries and they are there in the time of troubles. That's what my husband does and that is what we learned from him. In our culture, it is very important because it shows to you that your friends cares for you in EVERY segment of your life; not only when you have good or bad times.

4 hours ago, Elf Prince said:

- For me my friends does both: congratulates someone's birthday, anniversaries and they are there in the time of troubles. That's what my husband does and that is what we learned from him. In our culture, it is very important because it shows to you that your friends cares for you in EVERY segment of your life; not only when you have good or bad times.

For me, the true friends are those who are there in times of troubles. For it is easy to rejoice and exchange words when everything is fine and pleasant ; but people will be less motivated when you're in trouble. So that's were you see what's in the heart of people, specially in conflict (among family, among friends, among peoples and so on).

 I'm sorry if I disappoint by not meeting your requirements of a good friend, however.  I'm just a soul from another part of the world.

6 hours ago, Tirloque said:

For me, the true friends are those who are there in times of troubles. For it is easy to rejoice and exchange words when everything is fine and pleasant ; but people will be less motivated when you're in trouble. So that's were you see what's in the heart of people, specially in conflict (among family, among friends, among peoples and so on).

 

 I'm sorry if I disappoint by not meeting your requirements of a good friend, however.  I'm just a soul from another part of the world.

- According to my knowledge, the information I received from Eva, you was there for here when she needed your advice. You helped my husband too. I THANK YOU FOR THAT. But, I am disappointed, but not only in you. I'm disappointed in handicapped understanding and practicing of the friendship that vary from culture to culture. Friendship for me is much more than being there for your friend ONLY in times of need. If anyone showed the fullness of the true meaning of friendship, it is my husband who was always there in good and bad times for his friends. Especially in bad times. But, please, forgive me. I'm selfish. I have certain expectation from people whom I love (Prince and Eva) and from those who are their friends and I expect them to react the same way as we'll do. I realize more and more that the life doesn't function that way and that expectations will only lead to disappointments. Therefore, it is not your fault, but mine. I should know better. You are you are and I am me and we comes from different culture, backgrounds and similar shit. I just want you to know that I apologize if I hurt your feelings. I was hurt and angry that my wife, Eva who is very good person didn't deserve congratulation for her wedding anniversary from the people she loves and respect on LL. I don't give a fuck about it, but she does and although she didn't complain, I knew it bothered her. However, let's just drop this. There are much more things we have to learn yet and how to deal with them, just like every single person in the world.

5 hours ago, Elf Prince said:

- According to my knowledge, the information I received from Eva, you was there for here when she needed your advice. You helped my husband too. I THANK YOU FOR THAT. But, I am disappointed, but not only in you. I'm disappointed in handicapped understanding and practicing of the friendship that vary from culture to culture. Friendship for me is much more than being there for your friend ONLY in times of need. If anyone showed the fullness of the true meaning of friendship, it is my husband who was always there in good and bad times for his friends. Especially in bad times. But, please, forgive me. I'm selfish. I have certain expectation from people whom I love (Prince and Eva) and from those who are their friends and I expect them to react the same way as we'll do. I realize more and more that the life doesn't function that way and that expectations will only lead to disappointments.

I understand your position, yet I'd like to underline three points :

— What is harder in your opinion : to help one of your friends when he's got no job and just got beaten on the ground by some fate event, or to cheer him up on a party when he's offering you a drink and everything is fine ? What has the most value there ? I don't think the answer is a matter of culture, for my part.

— If one of your friends said to you : « I apologize but I'm fed up with Croatia's president, she doesn't answer my demands, so I won't put a feet in Croatia anymore and any member of my family either ». Would you think that person truly considers you as a friend ? What now if the way to Croatia was as fragile as an internet cable ? How much more fragile would be that kind of virtual friendship ?

— I don't recall having a follower wishing me my birthday, congratulating me for passing by a major event in my life, nor helping me in times of need. That is not what I expect from them ; it wouldn't even cross my mind to ask them to do so. And if some are inclined to help me as they can in virtual matters, to give their time, and to share upon our virtual interests, that is honorable from them, and probably traduces a good nature. But it's virtual, so I won't demand anything I would from for example a childhood friend that would live next door. Though it would probably be a great joy to me if someday that kind of virtual friendship made its path to a true one, you will learn with time the two things aren't the same and shouldn't be confused.

I tell you about it like someone who's been through events like that in the past. Believe me, the sooner you'll understand this two things are different, the better.

5 hours ago, Elf Prince said:

I knew it bothered her. However, let's just drop this. There are much more things we have to learn yet and how to deal with them, just like every single person in the world. 

I know you're reacting only out of love for her, so there's no problem. The love of a person who lives with you, shares and assist you every day is a true thing. Eva is lucky to be loved that way ; and I thank you for caring about her the way you do.

@Tirloque>

Before all, I want you to know that I was only fulfilling Ivy's wish to help her with English and that her letter to you is not initiated by me in any way although I agree with her (and with you in some parts) I do not stand behind this. She loves me very much and she was protective toward me all my life. I tried to explained to her that you and I already discussed this subject earlier, that she might disturb peaceful waters again, but she wanted to tell you what is on her heart. I only ask you, please don't be angry at her for she although a little bit crazy and wild, she has good heart and she only tried best for me.  The three of us are still young and we have to learn a lot yet, although there will always be things that will be "us" as individuals and a married triangle.

You have many kisses and hugs for this sentence.

3 hours ago, EvalovesEP said:

@Tirloque>

Before all, I want you to know that I was only fulfilling Ivy's wish to help her with English and that her letter to you is not initiated by me in any way although I agree with her (and with you in some parts) I do not stand behind this. She loves me very much and she was protective toward me all my life. I tried to explained to her that you and I already discussed this subject earlier, that she might disturb peaceful waters again, but she wanted to tell you what is on her heart. I only ask you, please don't be angry at her for she although a little bit crazy and wild, she has good heart and she only tried best for me.  The three of us are still young and we have to learn a lot yet, although there will always be things that will be "us" as individuals and a married triangle.

I understand it fully, Eva. You passed by those steps too, and so did I before.

However, would one day my steps lead me to Croatia, then I'd be happy to turn all those virtual links into real ones. That should not be in a near future however, but later, one cannot say what life will be made of. ?

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I know you're reacting only out of love for her, so there's no problem. The love of a person who lives with you, shares and assist you every day is a true thing. Eva is lucky to be loved that way ; and I thank you for caring about her the way you do.

 

You have many kisses and hugs for this sentence.

You're welcome Eva. And lucky.

You know, Trilog, you are one very smart ass (that's a compliment) regardless of few small things I disagree with.

I have a feeling you don't like me much, but it is OK. Many people doesn't like me anyway and I'm fine with it. That's living. Anyway, my point is: I respect you for being good and of help to my wife Eva who loves you very much. So, her friends are mine friends and her enemies are mine enemies. Have a favor to ask you. Tell Malicija that I would love to

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I understand your position, yet I'd like to underline three points :

 

— What is harder in your opinion : to help one of your friends when he's got no job and just got beaten on the ground by some fate event, or to cheer him up on a party when he's offering you a drink and everything is fine ? What has the most value there ? I don't think the answer is a matter of culture, for my part.

 

— If one of your friends said to you : « I apologize but I'm fed up with Croatia's president, she doesn't answer my demands, so I won't put a feet in Croatia anymore and any member of my family either ». Would you think that person truly considers you as a friend ? What now if the way to Croatia was as fragile as an internet cable ? How much more fragile would be that kind of virtual friendship ?

 

— I don't recall having a follower wishing me my birthday, congratulating me for passing by a major event in my life, nor helping me in times of need. That is not what I expect from them ; it wouldn't even cross my mind to ask them to do so. And if some are inclined to help me as they can in virtual matters, to give their time, and to share upon our virtual interests, that is honorable from them, and probably traduces a good nature. But it's virtual, so I won't demand anything I would from for example a childhood friend that would live next door. Though it would probably be a great joy to me if someday that kind of virtual friendship made its path to a true one, you will learn with time the two things aren't the same and shouldn't be confused.

 

 

I tell you about it like someone who's been through events like that in the past. Believe me, the sooner you'll understand this two things are different, the better.

 

I understand it fully, Eva. You passed by those steps too, and so did I before.

 

However, would one day my steps lead me to Croatia, then I'd be happy to turn all those virtual links into real ones. That should not be in a near future however, but later, one cannot say what life will be made of. ?

 

You know, Trilog, you are one very smart ass (that's a compliment) regardless of few small things I disagree with.

I have a feeling you don't like me much, but it is OK. Many people doesn't like me anyway and I'm fine with it. That's living. Anyway, my point is: I respect you for being good and of help to my wife Eva who loves you very much. So, her friends are mine friends and her enemies are mine enemies. 

I'm not smarter than you are, Ivy, just a handful of years more experimented. Experience helps, as I've already been by some situations you're currently facing.

Aaaaand, I do not dislike you. True we have completely different styles, and often opposite ways to think... But that's the case of most people around me. And, as long as they doesn't end impacting on others, I do not dislike differences. They're a strength in fact, as hopefully they haven't got the same defaults as me.

4 hours ago, Elf Prince said:

 

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her. Regardless her hairy pussy and anus as my husband says. It doesn't bothers me.

 

I'll relay the message.