Very well done. I love their outfits. She looks quite attractive for the vampire.

I wouldn't mind to be transformed into the vampire by her and be hers vampire sex toy.

Mileena: Interesting, these Vampires could be useful Allies, only its a shame I will crush them

Great work haha

Aria: Wow Mileena is mean. I like them

Very well done. I love their outfits. She looks quite attractive for the vampire.

Thank you

I wouldn't mind to be transformed into the vampire by her and be hers vampire sex toy.

Haha

Mileena: Interesting, these Vampires could be useful Allies, only its a shame I will crush them

Great work haha

 

Aria: Wow Mileena is mean. I like them

Thank you

A characters' sheet, yay !

Two points of lore though : you don't really « join » or leave vampires clans ; you're just born again as a member of a clan depending on the virus strain you were infected with.

For example :

— If Harkon bites you, you get sanguinare vampiris, Volkihar strain -> you turn into a Volkihar (known for it's different physical aspect and ability to change into vampire lords)

— If you're bitten by a Quarra (and survive the encounter), you get Porphyric haemophilia -> you turn into a Quarra. No vampire lord here, recognizable undead aspect though eyes aren't similar to Volkihar, great physical strength

Add to that that Lamae Bal even had another strand of vampirism and you get the picture : you're from the clan you got the disease from, that's genetics. Getting accepted by another clan (Volkihar put aside) might be possible, but won't change your genes. And Cyrodiil strand has it's particularities too (you just can't make the difference between one of those vampires (if well fed) and a human) so... I'd say you have to choose, Resdayn.

Second point : Quarras aren't guards. There is the same difference between a Quarra and another vampire strand, than between a healthy dog and one enraged by rabies : one will behave normally depending on how you educate it, the other one will just bite everything passing by, masters included !

Anyway, we've got a developed character sheet, which is always a pleasing read.

A characters' sheet, yay !

 

Two points of lore though : you don't really « join » or leave vampires clans ; you're just born again as a member of a clan depending on the virus strain you were infected with.

 

For example :

— If Harkon bites you, you get sanguinare vampiris, Volkihar strain -> you turn into a Volkihar (known for it's different physical aspect and ability to change into vampire lords)

— If you're bitten by a Quarra (and survive the encounter), you get Porphyric haemophilia -> you turn into a Quarra. No vampire lord here, recognizable undead aspect though eyes aren't similar to Volkihar, great physical strength

 

Add to that that Lamae Bal even had another strand of vampirism and you get the picture : you're from the clan you got the disease from, that's genetics. Getting accepted by another clan (Volkihar put aside) might be possible, but won't change your genes. And Cyrodiil strand has it's particularities too (you just can't make the difference between one of those vampires (if well fed) and a human) so... I'd say you have to choose, Resdayn.

 

 

Second point : Quarras aren't guards. There is the same difference between a Quarra and another vampire strand, than between a healthy dog and one enraged by rabies : one will behave normally depending on how you educate it, the other one will just bite everything passing by, masters included !

 

Anyway, we've got a developed character sheet, which is always a pleasing read.

I don't think because you have the same strain makes you instantly join Clan, Vampyrum Order not give fuck about the infected hero of Kvatch ever, in Morrowind they not care what you got they just meh join us and kill the others. In Volkihar you just join cause you did something useful and get vampire lord cause dragonblood is still better than fancy vampire clan blood and insta survive. Otherwise you will be the same as the other ones in the clans.

Carandial got infected during the Interregnum where Vampyrum Order,Clan Quarra was not existed, and mainly Lamae's strain was the dominant everywhere. Volkihar did exist cause this would mostlikely the this Era, when his sacrifices was ignored by the endless war, Harkon was king after all in some pocket of Skyrim, he does not have too much time to such things unless everyone is looking somewhere else like the ruby throne . Molag Bal was very active and no dragonborn emperors for the dragonfires, what better time to summon him?

I not really consider Vampyrum Order as a true clan where same blood etc, its more like a vampire nobility brand who blend too much in the imperial nobility to get them out, even the Main Vampire hunter faction is in their pocket. I mean Seridur was a head of the vampire hunter order and he was vampire or we can argue about Jannus Hasildor too, he was a count of Skingrad, he can be member even he not blend well to the humans. I do not see why would they decline a powerful vampire from the 2nd Era to join them. They have enough problems with clans from Blackmarsch, a ancient guy would be welcomed help against a superior vampire bloodlines.

The Quarras are guard dog of him, yes I aware they are unrealible, but when you powerful enough to make them your dogs then why not use them . Carandial is sorceror he can simply destroy them at whim. Remember House Telvanni exterminated all vampire clans from Vvardenfell simply cause thry annoyed them, a group like them would not need more than only few mage, they removed Quarra like nothing along with the others.

Strain from the second era is stronger than the modern strain, its has no negative effect and make the infected stronger night, while the others just make you weaker until you cure or transform.

Also we don't know vampire lord is really exclusive to Volkihar, entire clan is made up from a bunch of weakling under one very strong vampire. Aside of Serana,Valerica,Harkon none of them can turn vampire lord otherwise they would do it. Harkon is not a fool, he would not make a clan of vampire lords, then why would he lead when everyone is strong as him?

If you have stronger bloodline I don't think you would get infected by the inferior one, I mean 100% disease resistance is for reason. Harkon one is stronger than the one you got in Skyrim and overwrited it, this is not working reserved otherwise Harkon would not have his fancy throne.

I did not said they change their genes or bloodline ,simply aligned themself with the Vampyrum Order of Cyrodiil, they were diplomatic either with corpses or nice talking. I mean they lived mostly in Cyrodiil they get contract them either way. The bloodline is connected Clavius rather than Molag Bal.

Ahh I get it, I reffered the contracts and not the bloodline under the "Clans".

I not said they leave just simply settle in Skyrim, second war with the Dominion is coming and not secret, first one was not nice and leaved Cyrodiil rather shitty shape. Its safer there.

I see you have some knowledge : good !

 

Ahh I get it, I reffered the contracts and not the bloodline under the "Clans".

Absolutely. Being part of a vampire clan means sharing it's blood, being part of it's bloodline. Of course you can get accepted by another clan, but that doesn't changes who you are. =)

The Quarras are guard dog of him, yes I aware they are unrealible, but when you powerful enough to make them your dogs then why not use them . Carandial is sorceror he can simply destroy them at whim. Remember House Telvanni exterminated all vampire clans from Vvardenfell simply cause thry annoyed them, a group like them would not need more than only few mage, they removed Quarra like nothing along with the others.

IMO, the point isn't a matter of outpowering a Quarra ; the point is a Quarra is enraged. And enraged dog will attack anything, it being a wolf or a bear, regardless it's chances of survival. So IMO, if Carandial is stronger than the Quarras he met, that straight means all those Quarras are dead.

Another illustration of that is that Quarras even kill their newborn members, to give you an idea of the kind of creatures they are.

 

I don't think because you have the same strain makes you instantly join Clan, Vampyrum Order not give fuck about the infected hero of Kvatch ever, in Morrowind they not care what you got they just meh join us and kill the others

You've got a point ; he could certainly be « accepted » by most vampire organisations (at least those who tolerate members not sharing their blood). But according to what you wrote, his bloodline is Lamae's.

 

Absolutely. Being part of a vampire clan means sharing it's blood, being part of it's bloodline. Of course you can get accepted by another clan, but that doesn't changes who you are. =)

 

 

IMO, the point isn't a matter of outpowering a Quarra ; the point is a Quarra is enraged. And enraged dog will attack anything, it being a wolf or a bear, regardless it's chances of survival. So IMO, if Carandial is stronger than the Quarras he met, that straight means all those Quarras are dead.

 

 

Another illustration of that is that Quarras even kill their newborn members, to give you an idea of the kind of creatures they are.

You've got a point ; he could certainly be « accepted » by most vampire clans (at least those who tolerate members not sharing their blood). But according to what you wrote, his bloodline is Lamae's.

Well for the Order, noble rank and being powerful vampire is enough, he has both and he does not seek clanship, just being member allows him to use the benefits of the Order aka manipulating the Virtous Blood to kill the unwanted by telling them secrets,evidence or using the Empire's influnce some level behalf of the nobility. Both potential member we meeted in Oblivion was high ranking noble and vampire. This clan offered him more benefits simply.

Thats reason why he choosed them, he don't need the clan Quarra to allow to use their members, he can take the strain by ripping apart a few members and use his blood magic to alter the less useful parts of the bloodline for his bodyguards. Making enraged ferocius mogrels discipled dogs make him to look more powerful and feared. He has better bloodline, he does not get infected by a inferior one. Its just prestige, he could make better ones if he wanted from his blood or altering a strain with blood magic to make better warrior then Quarra, well nothing suggest he didn't do any of this -

 His blood ties to Lamae, he went to her for her blessing after all. He is pure-blood vampire as possible, he care about less for some lesser blooded vampires who whine about him.

Should we continue this conversation as via pm?

Well for the Order, noble rank and being powerful vampire is enough, he has both and he does not seek clanship, just being member allows him to use the benefits of the Order aka manipulating the Virtous Blood to kill the unwanted by telling them secrets,evidence or using the Empire's influnce some level behalf of the nobility. Both potential member we meeted in Oblivion was high ranking noble and vampire. This clan offered him more benefits simply.

Let's admit he's accepted as a member or the Cyrodiil order then ; but IMO I don't see how he could be Quarra or any other clan at the same time. Even aside of bloodlines problems, that Vampyrum Order does not seems very acceptant against rival clans or wandering vampires.

 

Thats reason why he choosed them, he don't need the clan Quarra to allow to use their members, he can take the strain by ripping apart a few members and use his blood magic to alter the less useful parts of the bloodline for his bodyguards. Making enraged ferocius mogrels discipled dogs make him to look more powerful and feared. He has better bloodline, he does not get infected by a inferior one. Its just prestige, he could make better ones if he wanted from his blood or altering a strain with blood magic to make better warrior then Quarra, well nothing suggest he didn't do any of this -

Then they're modified Quarras, not Quarras properly spoken.

 His blood ties to Lamae, he went to her for her blessing after all. He is pure-blood vampire as possible, he care about less for some lesser blooded vampires who whine about him.

Malicia : he's meany ! Very meany ! And no one is whining, okay ?

About the PM, I think it's interesting to discuss this topic publicly. But in the end, you do what you want, Resdayn ; I was merely suggesting some adjustments not to hurt lore-lovers, nothing more.

Well he just with one clan thats the Order. He is not member other ones, just contacted them.

Thats secret no one would really examine his bodyguards are Quarra or not. Quarra is now just some vampire dust .

Nice backstory!

Leandra: Ah! Another vampire. Welcome to our little community.

Nice backstory!

 

Leandra: Ah! Another vampire. Welcome to our little community.

Thank you .