I don't put neither of them into the "sex" category ?

It's more like a fetish. Like certain clothing that would look ridiculous otherwise. And like many other fetish, it's only for those who like it.

Aside from that, I see the point of aesthetics. And that's where I am personally very open to most clothing fetishes, but fail with pee and scat. It reminds me waaaaay to much about very displeasing .. "humans".

1 minute ago, worik said:

I don't put neither of them into the "sex" category ?

It's more like a fetish. Like certain clothing that would look ridiculous otherwise. And like many other fetish, it's only for those who like it.

Aside from that, I see the point of aesthetics. And that's where I am personally all into most clothing fetishes, but fail with pee and scat. It reminds me waaaaay to much about very displeasing .. "humans"

> Thanks for your observation, Mrs. worik. So you're saying?

Oh again you guys... I'm not into that stuff either way and I don't go browsing those sites anymore or porn in general. I just been sticking with naughty games and mods though. 

Am 10.05.2022 um 12:29 Uhr sagte workik:

Ich ordne beide nicht der Kategorie „Sex“ zu ?

Es ist eher ein Fetisch. Wie bestimmte Kleidung, die sonst lächerlich aussehen würde. Und wie viele andere Fetische ist es nur für diejenigen, die es mögen.

Abgesehen davon sehe ich den Sinn der Ästhetik. Und da bin ich persönlich den meisten Klamottenfetischen gegenüber sehr aufgeschlossen, scheitere aber mit Natursekt und Kaviar. Es erinnert mich viel zu sehr an sehr unangenehme .. "Menschen".

Well - there are people for whom just everything to do with "pure" intercourse (I call it "in-out play") counts as sex.
But "fetish" (e.g. latex or leather or "big breasts" etc.) or even "BDSM" (Bondage-Domination-Sadism-Masochism) is deliberately not included or strictly excluded.
To me this is a holdover from Christian prudishness - in which only that which is "allowed by God" is for immediate procreation - but anything other than "given by Satan" constitutes sin.
Such discussions show again and again that one has not emancipated (freed) oneself from it for a long time.
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This separation is also found in psychiatry/psychotherapy - it has even found its way into the ICD catalogue
Although science has been further along for a long time - doctors have also partly discarded this old separation - but as a "patient" you can quickly meet someone who is still stuck to the "old way of thinking".

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He called us sexual hypocrites for we accept one and reject another thing that belongs to same category. 

I might be missing something here. What were you accepting and what were you rejecting?

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So, what is your opinion about it? Do you think it belongs to sex or it is  what my Fran said or something else?

It can be a sexual act, definitely. It isn't sex in the sense of penetration tho. It is a fetish.

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Nothing surprises me about these two primitive barbarians, but, you, Princess?!

Not my cup of pee either, but more power to you! Hope its fun for you :^)