> My Prince and Ivy came into my office during the break and we had sex that we should have last night but couldn't because, you know. My Ivy talked dirty during the sex so he wouldn't think about BDSM videos he showed us yesterday. The sex was great and the mission accomplished. Bravo, Ivy ❤️

Oh You guys.... I don't like it either especially to that extreme. 

3 hours ago, Jay-Omms said:

Oh You guys.... I don't like it either especially to that extreme. 

> I don't know, but I had a feeling that you like BDSM, not hard core BDSM as we calling it here, but you like it. I see now I was wrong.

Don't worry, anyone with any semblance of a mind won't be angered about you having an opinion over such things, we can respect and even understand that this world isn't one for everyone. It's inevitable that some won't find certain things to their tastes or even feel contempt for said things.

Especially in regards of BDSM, being very obscure when it comes to awareness of what constitutes BDSM of any form, from the lightest of practices to hardcore there are misconceptions at every level if one even acknowledges such levels.

I obviously don't particularly agree with much of what you mentioned in regards to this but I can get over it.

Feel free to ignore it but I just thought I'd add my unrequested grain of salt...

3 minutes ago, Idyll said:

Don't worry, anyone with any semblance of a mind won't be angered about you having an opinion over such things, we can respect and even understand that this world isn't one for everyone. It's inevitable that some won't find certain things to their tastes or even feel contempt for said things.

 

Especially in regards of BDSM, being very obscure when it comes to awareness of what constitutes BDSM of any form, from the lightest of practices to hardcore there are misconceptions at every level if one even acknowledges such levels.

 

I obviously don't particularly agree with much of what you mentioned in regards to this but I can get over it.

 

Feel free to ignore it but I just thought I'd add my unrequested grain of sand...

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Pain infliction in itself isn't so far off from sex as one might think, I could get into some specifics but I'll just say that one often experiences varying levels of dopamine and endorphins in both instances - depending on the individual and a bunch of other factors.

 

I'd say that, rather than calling it a disorder of some kind, it's just that we masochists are wired differently. If you think about it, pain is just another sensation, just like touch, pleasure or other things one may feel. We feel pain as another form of pleasure, a different kind.

 

Like, tea and coffee are equally enjoyable drinks that can oftentimes be consumed at the same occasions, some prefer tea, some coffee, others do both. Same with sex and pain, both are very physical, sensational, and can even feel rather meta with the right conditions fulfilled, some find thrill in pain, some would rather have "normal" pleasure, others do both.

 

I don't really want to start a heated debate on the matter but rather express my opinion in hopes of helping it be more bearable to see or hear of such things, to say that something that may seem very bad, very wrong and very much a bunch of other things, isn't necessarily all that negative.

 

Dark doesn't mean bad, otherwise I doubt Batman would be fighting evil as intently. Same with normality, it's not always good to be average, to blend in with the masses, to have bland tastes that are largely the same as anyone else's. There's a better understanding of one another, sure, but I believe one of the greatest aspects of socializing with people is discovering things about them that you don't necessarily have familiarity with.

 

One cannot paint a rainbow with naught but one colour, after all.

 

Personally, I deem something that someone enjoys to be fine regardless of how sickening it is for others as long as they live functional lives, are happy and don't hurt others in their acts, then there's no such thing as a sickness, disorder or whatever for all these words imply is negativity.

 

I'm very much happy when I cum from being lashed to blood myself, bordering mindless, boundless euphoria. I can understand how that may lead others to feel disgust or tactlessly advise me to seek medical/mental help, it's just not for everyone and not everyone is the same.

 

It's fine to have different tastes, anyone who attacks you for expressing that difference is in the wrong, I believe, so don't feel bad for posting about something that may go against others if it's just your opinion and it follows LL rules.

 

Heck, I'm huge into BDSM and it doesn't keep me from wanting to be friends with you as more than just a follower haha~

 

Again, it's just my opinion piece...

> I respect you and your sexual preferences. My Prince was more mind opened for such things until some real life situations changed his mind. I still think he shouldn't go in such negative extreme about it, but he simply doesn't want to see anything positive in it. The three of us do not practice any form of BDSM since we do not enjoy in pain and suffering and it doesn't turn us on. I want you to know that my Prince doesn't reject people who loves and practice BDSM, regardless of his opinion about them that I do not support. He reject BDSM and he wouldn't have a problem to sit down with you and talk about many things except this subject.

> I commend your mature attitude and thinking. Thank you. ❤️

9 minutes ago, Evaloves4 said:

> I respect you and your sexual preferences. My Prince was more mind opened for such things until some real life situations changed his mind. I still think he shouldn't go in such negative extreme about it, but he simply doesn't want to see anything positive in it. The three of us do not practice any form of BDSM since we do not enjoy in pain and suffering and it doesn't turn us on. I want you to know that my Prince doesn't reject people who loves and practice BDSM, regardless of his opinion about them that I do not support. He reject BDSM and he wouldn't have a problem to sit down with you and talk about many things except this subject.

Yeah, I kind of figured it was mainly the practices themselves that were the problem and it's not my place to judge him for his thoughts since, as you've expressed, he's been through something that changed his views for the worse.

(A sidenote: BDSM isn't solely pain based, there's a great deal of things that can be enjoyed without even feeling any hint of pain, bondage being a good example. If fastened well, you won't even be able to tell you're tied unless you try to move hence feel the bindings and it's not even painful. Handcuffs are a form of bondage, you know, like when playing a "Jailed & Jailers" or police type of scenario haha.

Even just bondage can make for great vanilla, painless sex, I highly recommend it even to non-BDSM practitioners.)

17 minutes ago, Evaloves4 said:

> I commend your mature attitude and thinking. Thank you. ❤️

Haha, thanks, I try my best. ?

Here's a hug~ ?

you 2 are adorable ^^

39 minutes ago, Evaloves4 said:

My Prince was more mind opened for such things until some real life situations changed his mind.

also wish him the best with that, he prolly deserves to have lovely wives and great children and not having to worry about what he went through or that his family will suffer that too

46 minutes ago, Idyll said:

 

Yeah, I kind of figured it was mainly the practices themselves that were the problem and it's not my place to judge him for his thoughts since, as you've expressed, he's been through something that changed his views for the worse.

 

(A sidenote: BDSM isn't solely pain based, there's a great deal of things that can be enjoyed without even feeling any hint of pain, bondage being a good example. If fastened well, you won't even be able to tell you're tied unless you try to move hence feel the bindings and it's not even painful. Handcuffs are a form of bondage, you know, like when playing a "Jailed & Jailers" or police type of scenario haha.

 

Even just bondage can make for great vanilla, painless sex, I highly recommend it even to non-BDSM practitioners.)

 

 

 

Haha, thanks, I try my best. ?

 

Here's a hug~ ?

> We use handcuffs pretty often when we play our Mistress/slave sex game. My Ivy looooooves it, my Prince tolerate it since he doesn't like to be restrained but, he has very good orgasm when I let him cum. Delaying my sex slaves' orgasm is most "painful" thing that they have to endure.  Sometimes, my Ivy and I ask him to be our sex Master and we love it a lot. My Ivy enjoy in rough sex but it isn't anything like we know from BDSM movies. I am more romantic and I love them fucking me easy and gently.   Sometimes, I request them to fuck me roughly, but it is not often.

1 minute ago, TT. said:

you 2 are adorable ^^

also wish him the best with that, he prolly deserves to have lovely wives and great children and not having to worry about what he went through or that his family will suffer that too

On 5/10/2022 at 10:56 PM, Evaloves4 said:

> I don't know, but I had a feeling that you like BDSM, not hard core BDSM as we calling it here, but you like it. I see now I was wrong.

But I do like the outfits used in BDSM. 

51 minutes ago, Jay-Omms said:

 

But I do like the outfits used in BDSM. 

> Me too, but not all outfits, especially if the whole body is covered in leather or gum

59 minutes ago, Evaloves4 said:

> Me too, but not all outfits, especially if the whole body is covered in leather or gum

Same here