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Isolated?!


Evaloves4

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While I argued with some LL trolls last time, my Prince and Ivy came to my table, asked me to move away from it, and checking me on LL, they caught me in a verbal rampage. I am tempted to say now a lot about some LL members’ bias based on same nationality, similar mod liking (rape, women humiliation and similar shit) and on gender (males), about male chauvinism and sexism, but I won't. I was already described as broken record. Whatever. I will not be quiet about things everyone sees but don’t react, except few individuals whom I regard and respect a lot. Ashal or moderators are the only competent to shut me up. Anyway, my luvs requested me to log off immediately and they forbid me to log in LL for two weeks for breaking the promise that I will not quarrel and insult people regardless of being trolled. I didn’t like it, but I didn’t complain either. I was guilty. They let me write a few quick PMs later and that was it. Again, regardless of often attack on me on LL, I still love this site and some people here. They are my virtual family and friends.

 

 

There was new snow in the place we went last time. So the children were incredibly happy when we took them there to play. And of course, my Prince had to run around with them, pull them on a snow sled and wrestle with them in the snow. Playing in the snow had a price: they caught the cold and started to cough and sneeze and had a temperature when we returned home. My mom gladly nursed them. There is no better person for that than her. She treated them with natural and homemade medicine she prepares by herself and with the help of her herbalist friends. The whole house smelled nicely on various herbs. We know its efficiency since she treated us with it when we got a cold or a flu. My mom and my Prince were there 24h a day for our children. My Ivy and I also wanted to be involved and help but they didn’t let us saying there is no need. We visited children only when they asked for us or when we wanted to kiss them and hug them. He didn’t go to the work yesterday. He was very caring father: carrying them in his arms, whipping their noses, cleaning their faces, feeding them, giving them teas to drink, kissing them, comforting them when they were in pain crying and telling them that we love them very much. Nobody was important to him the last three days, but them. He was available to my Ivy and me only when we needed our “dose” and when we were doing our morning and evening routine. They feel better now.

 

 

Anyway, last night, after excellent sex, when we were laying in the bed in our sleeping position, I tried my luck and I asked them:

- Just like you two who can’t stand injustice, and have to react, I have my thing too: I can’t stand LL idiots and trolls. I simply must react …. I miss LL …. Would you two consider reducing my punishment if I really, and I mean, really really try to behave and do not react on provocations of any kind at all?

I heard my Ivy’s discontent sighing while my Prince was silent. Then he quietly said to me:

- I knew you’ll ask us that …. Restrictions and punishments should help you to change, but it obviously doesn’t work in your case since you're making excuses using our problem to justify yours, which is not nice thing to do, Princess ….. As for me, from now on, do whatever you want since there is no progress. But, know one thing: I love you, but I will not let you rampage in our house and mistreat us or our children as you do on LL. If you do that, you will be asked to move to your parents until you overcome it. If you disobey me, Ivy and I will take the children and go to dad Boss and Zdenka’s house until you come to common senses. This is my final word.

I was shocked. My Ivy kissed him and leaning over him, she kissed me too and said to me:

- I agree with him. We love you, but honey, if you behave as he says, we will isolate you. Unlike you, we never stressed out our tensions and frustrations on you and our children, and we never will. Your emotional "craziness" and mischief must stop. Our home is safe place for our children and us, and it shall stay like that. So, you better watch your step.

Their words were like strong slap on my face, but their arguments were valid, and I agreed with them because I know they told me that because they love me and they want us to be whole as a family. I am emotional and impulsive person, but I am not that fool to put myself in the isolation because of letting few idiots to provoke me. My family shouldn't suffer because of me. I just have to be strong enough to endure it all.

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Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment, because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

Eva, you know what is required to keep your happy home.

An unhappy home in whatever form is a prison in which children do penance for the sins of their parents.

 

We are both strong, free willed women, but, sometimes we take in so much nonsense, that we lose our common sense.

I too have crossed the line, and been punished for it.  So, I do understand your loved ones giving you an

ultimatum.

 Sometimes it takes an emotional smack to the face to help you get back on track.
 

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1 hour ago, dharvinia said:

Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment, because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

Eva, you know what is required to keep your happy home.

An unhappy home in whatever form is a prison in which children do penance for the sins of their parents.

 

We are both strong, free willed women, but, sometimes we take in so much nonsense, that we lose our common sense.

I too have crossed the line, and been punished for it.  So, I do understand your loved ones giving you am ultimatum.

 Sometimes it takes an emotional smack to the face to help you get back on track.
 

> I have no words to add to this or to take away. Everything you said stand as practical and real life truth. Thanks for reminding me on my priorities. :)

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I told you that you will not fight trolls alone. I know how difficult it can be to hold back. It took me a long time, as again, my husband and yours are much similar in their approach to so many things. One thing that he taught me is to use words as weapons. But to carefully chose the weapon you use. Again, much of his philosophy comes from military training. Anger and fear are an enemy within that you must defeat before confronting the one across from you.

 

This can be easier online than in combat when everything can "go sideways" in a second. You can read what the troll writes, and step back from it. Gather your thoughts, emotions and find words that cut. It is not always necessary to drop bombs when a single well places round will do. ))) You may see that I almost never swear... even at trolls. My husband says that when someone is trying to get such a response, deny them of it. I found that it works fairly well against most. When they rant and swear, remain polite (more or less). 

 

Often, I "politely" point out what an asshole the person is, without using such a word. I may write "butt-hole"... even "sphincter"! 😇 Maybe I will ask if they need a diaper change? ))) Rants demeaning women, I point out that "it's great that you found such a person with no self esteem who will tolerate you... there truly is a seat for ever ass!" 😝 Sometimes, they get frustrated that they do not get that response they want, and just go away. Sometimes, they lash out worse. HAHAHA! My trap! Once they become anything that can be called abusive... FLAGGED! And their posts are usually removed. It's a bit of work to remain calm, but there is pleasure in being calculating about it also. )))))))

 

Regardless, I await your release from "No LL prison", and hope we can "politely" take down a few trolls together.

 

 

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Can only say this.

Leave work at work and online at online. Never carry it over in the real world. Only bad things happen.

It is not easy, as we are humans. But i would not have someone getting satisfaction out of me because of some conversation.

 

As fact, i do not know anyone on the forum. I do not know how they look, how they feel, if they are good people or just unhappy with their lives. In the end, it does not matter. If i die tomorrow, no one will care on this forum or on the internet. Because i mean nothing to them.
But you mean something to the people that surround you. So its always important to keep that in mind to take care of yourself and the people you spend your life with.

And to take some time off, is pretty much always a good idea.

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1 hour ago, wutpickel said:

If i die tomorrow, no one will care on this forum or on the internet. Because i mean nothing to them.

Not entirely true. My interactions with you have always been pleasant... so, I like you and would miss your presence here. I'm sure others feel the same. 

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6 hours ago, LadySmoks said:

I told you that you will not fight trolls alone. I know how difficult it can be to hold back. It took me a long time, as again, my husband and yours are much similar in their approach to so many things. One thing that he taught me is to use words as weapons. But to carefully chose the weapon you use. Again, much of his philosophy comes from military training. Anger and fear are an enemy within that you must defeat before confronting the one across from you.

 

This can be easier online than in combat when everything can "go sideways" in a second. You can read what the troll writes, and step back from it. Gather your thoughts, emotions and find words that cut. It is not always necessary to drop bombs when a single well places round will do. ))) You may see that I almost never swear... even at trolls. My husband says that when someone is trying to get such a response, deny them of it. I found that it works fairly well against most. When they rant and swear, remain polite (more or less). 

 

Often, I "politely" point out what an asshole the person is, without using such a word. I may write "butt-hole"... even "sphincter"! 😇 Maybe I will ask if they need a diaper change? ))) Rants demeaning women, I point out that "it's great that you found such a person with no self esteem who will tolerate you... there truly is a seat for ever ass!" 😝 Sometimes, they get frustrated that they do not get that response they want, and just go away. Sometimes, they lash out worse. HAHAHA! My trap! Once they become anything that can be called abusive... FLAGGED! And their posts are usually removed. It's a bit of work to remain calm, but there is pleasure in being calculating about it also. )))))))

 

Regardless, I await your release from "No LL prison", and hope we can "politely" take down a few trolls together.

 

 

> Thanks again for very encouraging and wise words. :)

 

> I used to be polite most of the time, just like my Prince when he was LL member. By the time that politeness became rarer since I lost the patience with them. I tried to ignore them, be nice, warn them, reported to the moderators - nothing helped. In my Prince's case, insulter and trolls backed off quite soon. In my case they are fucking persistent and I am strongly convinced it is because I am a woman. Those chauvinists can't accept that woman oppose them.

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6 hours ago, wutpickel said:

Can only say this.

Leave work at work and online at online. Never carry it over in the real world. Only bad things happen.

It is not easy, as we are humans. But i would not have someone getting satisfaction out of me because of some conversation.

 

As fact, i do not know anyone on the forum. I do not know how they look, how they feel, if they are good people or just unhappy with their lives. In the end, it does not matter. If i die tomorrow, no one will care on this forum or on the internet. Because i mean nothing to them.
But you mean something to the people that surround you. So its always important to keep that in mind to take care of yourself and the people you spend your life with.

And to take some time off, is pretty much always a good idea.

> I used to be very professional - separating my private life from my work. That professionalism was lost when I joined LL. Don't know how and when. Anyway, my luvs are trying to help me to get back on the track and I am very positive about it. :)

> Thank you for wise words. :)

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4 hours ago, LadySmoks said:

Not entirely true. My interactions with you have always been pleasant... so, I like you and would miss your presence here. I'm sure others feel the same. 

+1

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Good thing you have your luvs to help you wake up and smell the coffee. :)

 

My niece and I got sick again too but she is all better now as for me I'm getting there... I hope. :sweat_smile:

 

I agree with the others that commented before me. So keep calm stay strong and booyah on. :tounge_wink:

:):heart:;):thumbsup:

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BOOYAH is —used to express triumph or exuberance.

 

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7 minutes ago, Jay-Omms said:

Good thing you have your luvs to help you wake up and smell the coffee. :)

 

My niece and I got sick again too but she is all better now as for me I'm getting there... I hope. :sweat_smile:

 

I agree with the others that commented before me. So keep calm stay strong and booyah on. :tounge_wink:

:):heart:;):thumbsup:

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BOOYAH is —used to express triumph or exuberance.

 

> Thanks Jay. :) Sorry to hear that you guys are sick again. :(

> I have no more likes to share, but you always deserve dozens of them. :D

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10 minutes ago, Evaloves4 said:

> Thanks Jay. :) Sorry to hear that you guys are sick again. :(

> I have no more likes to share, but you always deserve dozens of them. :D

 

No problem :mask::thumbsup:

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6 hours ago, LadySmoks said:

Not entirely true. My interactions with you have always been pleasant... so, I like you and would miss your presence here. I'm sure others feel the same. 

 

8 hours ago, wutpickel said:

 In the end, it does not matter. If i die tomorrow, no one will care on this forum or on the internet. Because i mean nothing to them.

 

That might not be entirely true here on LL, ... 👇

Although, due to the private nature of LL it's rather difficult to tell if someone is just chosing to be absent or if worse things happened.

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Well, thats true.

My view was always that online is different since we can not make really a connection between each other besides talk.

So there is always a distance which we can not bridge.

But thats ok. It enables us to be more open when we otherwise would not. So thats something.

 

 

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Well, I am a nice guy... until I'm not.

Use proper words and imply yet do not directly assault.

Don't cuss. Use their own words against them.

They don't know you either so find humor in their anger and stupidity, and mis-guided thoughts.

Go into it with the intent that you are simply correcting them to help - but we all know their intent - to disrupt and find pleasure in someone else being lower than they are.

 

Schadenfreude - means finding joy in someone else's misfortune or pain.  There are a lot of them out there. One's who cannot feel pleasure unless they make someone feel worse than they do. 

 

You know... YOU. You know you're smarter and better in general than that - so, have a little fun with it.  Leave them confused and hanging in mid-air.    Post gigerish to them, Put things in quotes when you reference someone else's work and note the source. 

 

When they see, they can't get to you - they move on to their next target to feed... just not you. And you laugh!

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He didn’t go to the work yesterday. He was very caring father: carrying them in his arms, whipping their noses, cleaning their faces, feeding them, giving them teas to drink, kissing them, comforting them when they were in pain crying and telling them that we love them very much. Nobody was important to him the last three days, but them. He was available to my Ivy and me only when we needed our “dose” and when we were doing our morning and evening routin

As expected, he's quite the dedicated and protective father. Provided he's careful enough in the other areas of his life, those children should have quite a happy childhood.

 

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- Just like you two who can’t stand injustice, and have to react, I have my thing too: I can’t stand LL idiots and trolls. I simply must react …. I miss LL …. Would you two consider reducing my punishment if I really, and I mean, really really try to behave and do not react on provocations of any kind at all?

 I am like that as well ; when I feel something wrong is told in a debate I'm involved in, I am strongly tempted to keep responding till I manage to undo the opposing arguments. In this way, I act conceited and pretentious, as I think I'm right and tempted to demonstrate it. 

 

So learning to leave things "at that" is a good exercise, as at one hand

— once I've explained my views not striving to impose them makes me work on my humility, as my ideas then appear as just one way  among others

— And second, I lose way less time trying to convince people who'd be to stubborn to ever change their mind. It's their problem if they can't be reasoned, not mine.

:innocent:

 

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- I agree with him. We love you, but honey, if you behave as he says, we will isolate you.

 

ldyMRSUy_o.png « :cry:

               That would be very meany.

 

                My friends and sisters wouldn't try to isolate me, as they'd miss me way too much if they did. :classic_angel: »

 

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2 hours ago, Tirloque said:

ldyMRSUy_o.png « :cry:

               That would be very meany.

 

                My friends and sisters wouldn't try to isolate me, as they'd miss me way too much if they did. :classic_angel: »

 

 

> No, it wouldn't be meany. my luvs loves me, but they want to project our children from my misbehaving, and me from myself. Sure, they'll miss me, but that isolation isn't meant to be long run isolation. I agree with them 100% no matter how much cruel their decision means to you. 🙂

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