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The Purge of Riften(10/)


Resdayn

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previous part: https://www.loverslab.com/blogs/entry/10356-the-purge-of-riften9/

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Hello

 

If you are new Reader welcome!

 

I suggest cheking out the story sheet and start with the beginning.

 

https://www.loverslab.com/blogs/entry/6362-story-sheet-gwynolda/

 

 

 

The Purge of Riften(10/)

 

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I hidden myself from the sunlight in the base, what Gauis uses.. 

 

I thought I had a chance to talk with him, however, nor he or my daughter was around..

 

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I took my chance to explore more this base, but it was insulting as first time.. No wonder I took a more worthy room for myself then this garbage house....

 

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Ever since the Vampirism I feel so young and strong..

 

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Like if I was again in my prime, during the past glory games with my siblings..

 

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I cut my hair the same, as I used to have in those times..

 

Really nostalgic to feel this cut again..

 

I sometimes miss my siblings, but they had it coming..

 

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However, we are here on a business... Even if the Masked idiot forget me..

 

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We need end the corruption yes, in that case I need meet the true leader of the city Maven..

 

But first thing first, I need a proper protection for meeting her..

 

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Ahhh my Armour..

 

I need proper protection against lets say thugs or any other assassination attempt..

 

Of course look like someone who is not from this slums..

 

After all I not gonna blend in looking like a peasant..That would be so unfitting for me..

 

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Its been quite sometime since I weared this armour..

 

I honestly not mind showcasing my superiority to these scums if they dare challenge me..

 

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I miss my old swordfights and challenges..

 

Time to leave..

 

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Fresh air and sunlight...

 

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How charming..

 

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I will find my Daughter first before dealing with the business..

 

Family always come first haha..

 

She must been around somewhere...

 

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During the Night, I took my precious time experimenting and exploring my vampire abilities...

 

Now can use the paralysis freely, of course it makes me thirsty if I use it a lot..

 

It uses my blood reverses instead of magicka, so I took a few more person with my tongue..

 

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As for the sun?

 

My body is cold, and I can make it cold enough to freeze the air..

 

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With a proper arcane knowledge, I can make that water from the air a frost barrier around my body..

 

Creating an sun-reflective shield to protect myself from these deadly light..

 

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Of course, I hide it with an illusion magic, otherwise it would be a bit too suspicious and causes fear..

 

That barrier skills everything what touches me..

 

Everything has drawbacks, its not really an easy task to keep up or capable to cast anything else..

 

Enough to travel in the sunlight without dying..

 

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I defeated sun, I did something what countless of vampires failed to achieve for millenia..

 

All it took some knowledge about my newly found vampire body and arcane magic..

 

But why I am suprised, of course I figure out this.. Im not a low-life like those other vampires..

 

But not get head of myself yet, this method is imperfect unlike me..

 

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I sense someone with my blood, that must be my Daughter..

 

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To find her, I need follow this gate and the path behind her, she is near in the Temple of Mara and Arkay..

 

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I was right, she was indeed here... My own Daughter..

 

I never thought after decades, the place I meet her will be a temple's graveyard in this slum city...

 

Gwynolda:There you are.. Mother!!

Eliza: Greetings my Dear.. You became quite a lady(chuckles)

 

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Eliza: Its been quite a While my dear Daughter. I heard you now call yourself "Gwynolda".. You pick the name after your lowlife Father or he gave it you?

Gwynolda: The Temple let me pick my own name, I choosed Gwynolda.. not the accursed one you gave to me...

Eliza: Yet you wear my name as your House name... How adorable, Im glad you love me still as much..

Gwynolda: Enough of Talk!!

Eliza: Ohh?

 

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Gwynolda: I Gwynolda de Chapeau in the name of Arkay and Lady Dibella will destroy you for throwing away your humanity and become an a vampire!

 

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Eliza: You mean for this make up? My dear don't joke with me..

Gwynolda: Make up? What do you mean?!

Eliza: Vampirism is nothing more then a diet change for youthness and power, like a special make up..

Gwynolda:.....

 

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She is my daughter, having my blood means she is closer to me greatness then anyone in the Empire..

 

Lets supress her magical casting ability with my newly found blood magic...

 

Making an silence effect on her.

 

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Eliza: Very well..

 

I Bellatrix Lisbette Eliza De Chapeou

 

Accept your challenge of Duel..

 

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Gwynolda: I waited for this moment for quite long time

Eliza: Challenging me for my titles? How sweet, you truly my own blood.

 

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Gwynolda: I don't care for your worthless titles.. No...

 

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Gwynolda: I want kill you for everything you did against me and the Divines...

 

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Gwynolda: Arkay, god of death bring me your power to banish this Vampire off from Nirm..

 

Face the might of my Holy Magic...

 

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Gwynolda: Something is not right...

 

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Gwynolda: I can't cast my holy magic....!? How? Arkay said I can....

 

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Of course, you can't cast Gwynolda...

 

Took you a while to realise it, you can't utilise your magic Sweety..

 

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Eliza: Remember my Dear, when you go against someone who can utilise the Arcane.. First thing you do is stop the ability to cast hehe...

 

Second is to prepare against it and counter it..

 

Core lesson when Arcane is involved in dueling...

 

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Eliza: I silenced your magic casting, so you can't utilise your "holy" magic against me, not like it would make any difference..

 

Now then..

 

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Eliza: Shall we begin the duel?.....

 

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Eliza: Ahh come on sweet heart..

 

I thought the Temple of Dibella teached you something more practical outside of being whore and a leper prostitute...

 

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Eliza: Thats not how you parry a strike like this... Did nobody teach you how to properly use a sword?

Gwynolda: Silence!

 

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Lets paralyse her a bit for a proper final strike..

 

Silence unnecessary now, she can't cast if she forced to defend..

 

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How cute, she is suprised now

 

Gwynolda: Whats going on again, why my body not move...

 

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Lets make a swift move to her side...

 

End the the paralysis to give her a little chance to protect herself..

 

Gwynolda: Huh?

 

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One fatal blow to her...

 

I expect more from her.. I took her way more seriously..

 

Eliza: This is it Gwynolda....

 

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Eliza: In the end, even if you have my blood..

 

You are a mistake...garbage and a failure..

 

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Eliza: You never gonna be match me or will be Great as me..

 

No matter how hard you could try..

 

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Eliza: My blood magic keeps you from bleeding out and death, til I walk away....

 

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Eliza: After I leave, you die and bleed out..

 

You made the greatest mistake my Dear Gwynolda..

 

You thought you can challenge me...

 

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Time to visit Maven and show Gauis, how to handle the business..

 

 

The End

 

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Man, a fight between mother and daughter: pretty nasty. You did a great job and as I could notice you Changed Eliza's look. Btw, I wish Gwyonlda's victory.

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1 minute ago, EvalovesEP said:

Man, a fight between mother and daughter: pretty nasty. You did a great job and as I could notice you Changed Eliza's look. Btw, I wish Gwyonlda's victory.

Thank you 😊

 

Yeah, she cut her hair and changed the hairstyle closer to her young self 🤗.

 

Long Hair is not ideal for combat, at least in her eyes 😁

 

Gwynolda rushed to an enemy, she not really knew or was prepared.. Eliza simply was too skilled for her. 😨

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Eliza is so deliciously narcissistic and self-absorbed that it's perfect!  I love her mocking tone and the little praises that she gives herself. "Well of course I figured out how to beat the sun. After all, I'm me!" And the fact that she sees vampirism as something akin to makeup just adds to her weird charm. ☺️

 

I know that Gwynolda is a protagonist and a hero but I am kind of really curious to see what would happen if Eliza was unopposed and had the free run of the place. 🤔

Of course she's not the nicest person around but there's just something so ...human... in all her faults.  "Riften is gross and smells bad", "I'm going to wear my best armor so nobody mistakes me for the lowlifes around here", "Dibellan temple only trains whores" - I'm sure at least some citizens of Skyrim thought the same things at one point or another, but Eliza just goes and simply states these things as facts. It's just awesome! 😂

 

I also really enjoyed the duel. Since Eliza (and technically Gwynolda) is nobility it fit really well into the story. The parts where she calculates all the moves of her daughter and counters them even before Gwynolda is able to strike shows that despite her arrogance, Eliza is also a rather cunning foe.

 

Great episode and beautiful screenshots as always. Can't wait to see how the visit to Maven will go. 🤗

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Oh, wow...
That was... unexpected.
Interesting idea with cold magic to supress the sunlight. 
Well, at least she's alive ^_^ 
Great job, Res ^_^
 

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Dont you end this on a Cliffhanger! !!! dont let her die! jfasodjgpasdgpo more xD i need to know what will happen ! will she die, will she turn stronger from being close to death (like a sayian from dragon ball 8o )  will she die and never be seen, will gauis save her, will a god save her, podsgpoasjdgosa more! xD 

 

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11 hours ago, Devianna said:

Eliza is so deliciously narcissistic and self-absorbed that it's perfect!  I love her mocking tone and the little praises that she gives herself. "Well of course I figured out how to beat the sun. After all, I'm me!" And the fact that she sees vampirism as something akin to makeup just adds to her weird charm. ☺️

 

I know that Gwynolda is a protagonist and a hero but I am kind of really curious to see what would happen if Eliza was unopposed and had the free run of the place. 🤔

Of course she's not the nicest person around but there's just something so ...human... in all her faults.  "Riften is gross and smells bad", "I'm going to wear my best armor so nobody mistakes me for the lowlifes around here", "Dibellan temple only trains whores" - I'm sure at least some citizens of Skyrim thought the same things at one point or another, but Eliza just goes and simply states these things as facts. It's just awesome! 😂

 

I also really enjoyed the duel. Since Eliza (and technically Gwynolda) is nobility it fit really well into the story. The parts where she calculates all the moves of her daughter and counters them even before Gwynolda is able to strike shows that despite her arrogance, Eliza is also a rather cunning foe.

 

Great episode and beautiful screenshots as always. Can't wait to see how the visit to Maven will go. 🤗

Thank you 🤗

 

Eliza is very entertaining character to write, out of my antagonist she is the most fun hehe 🥰

 

Its truly charming in her, that narcistic self love she has, and all arrogance hehe, everything she says is literal fact, cause she says it. Thats how she see the world 😁

 

She effectively look down anything and anyone, who is not her, only one thing is great, which is herself.. I mean she literally calls Gauis as an masked idiot xD.

 

Well pretty much we can see it, cause she handled the only opposing thing in her way now and defeated Gwynolda, Eliza seems motivated to handle the issue Gauis brought her, to just showcase how much incompetent he is. 🤔

 

Yeah, hardest scene in all the Purge arc, the fight and combat scenes, ohhh dear.. Not just the longest fight scene, but it was a damn pain in the ass to make it 😦

 

Actually both of them are noble, even Gwynolda too, Gauis legalised her, so she no longer a "bastard".

 

Im pretty sure outcome was unexpected, even odds were actually in Gwynolda's side, like Eliza couldn't use her magic due protecting herself from the sun, and daylight, Gwynolda having anti undead tools...

 

it just Gwynolda wasn't skillful enough to match her, Eliza was just better with sword, dueling and had experience handling a lot of fight and magic, and as you noticed she is actually cunning foe.

 

Gwynolda just barely learned a bit of sword skills in Whiterun, and cutting down a shrine and a suprised Shade not really massive experience to match her, burning people was not an option either here 😨

 

Im pretty happy with all screenshots and scenes, especially how it went darker and more clouded in weather when they fought, definetly was a pretty hard chapter, but it was worth it. 😊

10 hours ago, Jayomms said:

:O... :wink::thumbsup:

😁

4 hours ago, Crw said:

Oh, wow...
That was... unexpected.
Interesting idea with cold magic to supress the sunlight. 
Well, at least she's alive ^_^ 
Great job, Res ^_^
 

Thank you 😁

 

Im pretty sure nobody expected that, seems the other result was everyone's guess.

 

Well alive is a bit questionable, Gwynolda ain't good shape.

 

My knowledge about the spacey things, ice reflect sun, thus vampire can do the same if they have tools for such thing.

15 minutes ago, Eranikus said:

Dont you end this on a Cliffhanger! !!! dont let her die! jfasodjgpasdgpo more xD i need to know what will happen ! will she die, will she turn stronger from being close to death (like a sayian from dragon ball 8o )  will she die and never be seen, will gauis save her, will a god save her, podsgpoasjdgosa more! xD 

 

We see in the next chapter 🤗

 

I don't think Gwynolda will get stronger from near death experience.

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Finally, a combat episode ! And not not just any fight, but the one of the two De Chapeau ! Hat down ! ^^ And it lasted for quite a bit. Like the formal duel aspect, it gave some kind of prestige to the confrontation.

 

However, on the scenario side, I think the suppress magicka/suppress holy magic/suppress move twists aren't good writing. They feel like toggling a switch without anything justifying it. Gauis becoming unable do cast magicka, and now Gwynolda... It's like Saruman telling Gandalf he has no power here if you had a daedric prince in front of you and you said "sorry, I just suppressed daedric magic, you can't do a thing now". Or having the most powerful warrior of Sovngarde paralysed without prior notice. Scenario-wise, it doesn't fit with the power of the characters involved. What's the point in becoming that powerful if someone can switch you off by switching a button ? You could justify those by having powerful magicka cancelling towers set up around the area, or having the vampire lock eyes with her victim to hypnotize it so that the target struggles moving ; this kind of setup would allow the both trap to take effect or to be countered.  But without sufficient justification, meh. So that combat/shounen writing part could be improved. Same for the ice spell blocking light (water doesn't really block light AFAIK). 🤔

 

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Now, on the good aspects, excellent and immersive screenarchery as always. The subtle red of Eliza's eyes (which youthful aspect is really close to Gwynolda) being revealed by the red light of her blood magic is an absolute treat visually. The combination of the poses and of the magical effects ended rendering quite nicely on the screen. Also, delicious games played over Eliza's narcissistic personality, it was entertaining to see things through her eyes. ^^ The poses, the expressions, the outfits... You like your characters and it shows ;  everything makes the result visually pleasing (even the Dof is used correctly to better highlight the action). The english, while not perfect, is way more concise than before, and so more efficient and pleasant to follow. Also liked the dramatic aspect of the duel, and its conclusion leaving the reader expecting the 11th chapter.

 

Anyway, great episode ! Loved it despite my criticism ! :D

 

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— Emergency services...

It's me again ! It's about my friend Gwynolda, she's got very stabbed on the neck, so she's gonna bleed out on the street you see ? That's what happens

     when you think you're an expert and you're not !

 

    She's in Riften ! You must very send an ambulance now, please ! :cold_sweat:  »

 

 

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2 hours ago, Tirloque said:

Finally, a combat episode ! And not not just any fight, but the one of the two De Chapeau ! Hat down ! ^^ And it lasted for quite a bit. Like the formal duel aspect, it gave some kind of prestige to the confrontation.

 

 

Both character officially noble, so formality and proper fight somewhat expect.

2 hours ago, Tirloque said:

However, on the scenario side, I think the suppress magicka/suppress holy magic/suppress move twists aren't good writing. They feel like toggling a switch without anything justifying it. Gauis becoming unable do cast magicka, and now Gwynolda... It's like Saruman telling Gandalf he has no power here if you had a daedric prince in front of you and you said "sorry, I just suppressed daedric magic, you can't do a thing now". Or having the most powerful warrior of Sovngarde paralysed without prior notice. Scenario-wise, it doesn't fit with the power of the characters involved. What's the point in becoming that powerful if someone can switch you off by switching a button ? You could justify those by having powerful magicka cancelling towers set up around the area, or having the vampire lock eyes with her victim to hypnotize it so that the target struggles moving ; this kind of setup would allow the both trap to take effect or to be countered.  But without sufficient justification, meh. So that combat/shounen writing part could be improved. Same for the ice spell blocking light (water doesn't really block light AFAIK). 🤔

 

Yeah, I can understand how frustrating can be that element, but my goals and ideas was different with the two ones.

 

Being Powerful and having powerful abilities not really makes any of these characters invincible, In Gauis case it was to showcase it not really matter magic or not, Imperator Magus crushes you, it supposed to make him look stronger 😅

 

I may wrote that a bit clunky, but in this scenario Gwynolda got silenced by blood magic.

 

Silence is exist in the lore and as well any tes games before Skyrim, Eliza made a silence spell effect, which causes the target unable to cast, one thing skyrim got the worst magic out all tes games and not have event he basics as spells, but if your enemy can cast you make sure counter that or expect your magic will be countered and prepare against it.

 

Opposed Dnd and Pathfinder, TES games not really use vocals for cast, so I guessed its magicka messing up thing. 😝

 

In Gauis case, that was anti-magic runes, its pretty much like makes all magic and casting not working, but that was applied as well the maker of the runes.

 

That was assasination attempt, which failed by the Defiler.

 

And despite everything Gwynolda is still an inexperienced fighter, its showing and was the point against an experienced and skilled enemy.

 

Anyway, both magic "switch off" happened by persons who either equal or better in skills, and the simply was not expected thing for our heroes. Gauis despite the warnings not really expected anyone even close to him magically. Gwynolda just not expect her mother even capable fighter and she can kill her easily by faith.

 

My characters actually making mistakes and not prepare everything, both Gauis and Gwynolda could avoid the magic thing with actually consider the possibility of happening, Gwynolda could won easily if she was emotionally right and prepared. Gauis can solve the runes, but he was not too bothered to spent time on it.

 

However, Gwynolda probably already exhausted from the Shade fight, we saw she wasted large amount of magicka to cast a spell and make rather swift reaction to take out the shade, she even fainted after it, we don't know how much Arkay's blessings and power helped, even he said rely on the sword.. and since the fight was purely from Eliza's perspective, who knows, she might not even actually blocked magic 😉 too bad Gwynolda can't asnwer for that.

 

Thats magical ice, let the fantasy be fantasy 😛

 

I just wanted a battle about skills and swordfights instead magically blasting each others to make it more interesting and aesthetic.. 😝  And make Gauis show he is badass with fist, magical "switch" aka those tools was the best logical explanation for narrative and story wise otherwise, you would ask different questions like.

 

"Why Gauis punching it when he can cast magic?" "Why Gwynolda not use destruction magic and go against someone who obviously better duelist then her?"

 

First time actually focusing on combat, don't expect me be par on the more combat focused authors at first try 😳, things always improve later.

2 hours ago, Tirloque said:

 

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Now, on the good aspects, excellent and immersive screenarchery as always. The subtle red of Eliza's eyes (which youthful aspect is really close to Gwynolda) being revealed by the red light of her blood magic is an absolute treat visually. The combination of the poses and of the magical effects ended rendering quite nicely on the screen. Also, delicious games played over Eliza's narcissistic personality, it was entertaining to see things through her eyes. ^^ The poses, the expressions, the outfits... You like your characters and it shows ;  everything makes the result visually pleasing (even the Dof is used correctly to better highlight the action). The english, while not perfect, is way more concise than before, and so more efficient and pleasant to follow. Also liked the dramatic aspect of the duel, and its conclusion leaving the reader expecting the 11th chapter.

 

Anyway, great episode ! Loved it despite my criticism ! :D

 

Im glad you liked. 😊

 

Yeah, screenshot wise and visual wise I think everything is the expected, even fight scenes were actually properly done despite being first actual fight in the story, others was very minor.

 

Thats intentional Gwynolda get more closer to her mother's look as she matures and develop as character, while Eliza as she got younger she looks like Gwynolda in the beginning.

 

Yeah Eliza's personality is very fun to write.

 

They are mirroing each other certain ways and share some traits, make sense they are close relatives.

 

Ohh, at least you liked that result from the duel haha.

 

Thank you 😁

 

2 hours ago, Tirloque said:

 

Malicia :  Smiley-ryoandr-HFR.gif

 

 

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— Emergency services...

It's me again ! It's about my friend Gwynolda, she's got very stabbed on the neck, so she's gonna bleed out on the street you see ? That's what happens

     when you think you're an expert and you're not !

 

    She's in Riften ! You must very send an ambulance, please ! :cold_sweat:  »

 

 

You should write a letter about her preparing to battle and picking enemies she can handle, she would appreciate it.

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49 minutes ago, Tirloque said:

Finally, a combat episode ! And not not just any fight, but the one of the two De Chapeau ! Hat down ! ^^ And it lasted for quite a bit. Like the formal duel aspect, it gave some kind of prestige to the confrontation.

 

However, on the scenario side, I think the suppress magicka/suppress holy magic/suppress move twists aren't good writing. They feel like toggling a switch without anything justifying it. Gauis becoming unable do cast magicka, and now Gwynolda... It's like Saruman telling Gandalf he has no power here if you had a daedric prince in front of you and you said "sorry, I just suppressed daedric magic, you can't do a thing now". Or having the most powerful warrior of Sovngarde paralysed without prior notice. Scenario-wise, it doesn't fit with the power of the characters involved. What's the point in becoming that powerful if someone can switch you off by switching a button ? You could justify those by having powerful magicka cancelling towers set up around the area, or having the vampire lock eyes with her victim to hypnotize it so that the target struggles moving ; this kind of setup would allow the both trap to take effect or to be countered.  But without sufficient justification, meh. So that combat/shounen writing part could be improved. Same for the ice spell blocking light (water doesn't really block light AFAIK). 🤔

 

Oooh boy, let me just get out my books, scrolls and notes.  Ok, ok, there we go:

 

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Surprisingly enough, Eliza's frost barrier (and that is indeed what she's casting) could work as a reflective shield.  White ice by itself has a reflective surface and can reflect up to 80-90% of UV light. If we assume that it is UV radiation that actually damages vampires and not some other, more fantastical component of sun rays (like the 'light of god' concept and so on) then it stands to reason that with some magical manipulation, expertise in arcane arts and ingenuity Eliza could indeed walk around in the daylight using this method. Of course it would be draining on her power and I doubt she'd be able to go sunbathing, but generally being outside shouldn't cause more than some discomfort for her in that state. 🤔

 

Personally I found the fight quite reasonable. The way I see it, the main point of the duel was the fact that Gwynolda for all her zealousness and bravado just wasn't prepared to fight and kill her own mother. Given enough time and practice she would've won the fight easily. After all, it would take just one strike powered by Arkay's blessing.  Yet at this point she's still just a girl with dreams of revenge and justice but without the temperance of an older, experienced fighter. We can see how Eliza not only toys with her but even gives her an opportunity to strike back by removing the paralysis. And still Gwynolda wasn't able to do anything.  I'm going to guess anyone more knowledgeable in the art of battle would shrug off the effects of blood magic rather quickly or simply block them. Gwynolda wasn't prepared to deal with the situation not just on a physical level but more on emotional one.  And she paid the price for it (hopefully not the ultimate one).

 

As for Gauis, considering his power, he could level the whole city and be done with it. He's just being cautious and instead of wasting time to remove the magic-dampening runes Imperator Magus simply punches out his opponent.  It's quick, efficient and I think he also finds it a bit of a fun exercise. 😅

 

I think what you're saying is that all of these scenes could've been more expanded on with additional dialogues, thoughts or just descriptive sentences.  This would indeed make things much more clear for the readers. But this is just the style in which Resdayn writes and we have to take into account the language issue (which as you noted has improved dramatically). So with time I'm sure all of these smaller details will sort themselves out. ☺️

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6 hours ago, Resdayn said:

Yeah, I can understand how frustrating can be that element, but my goals and ideas was different with the two ones.

 

Being Powerful and having powerful abilities not really makes any of these characters invincible, In Gauis case it was to showcase it not really matter magic or not, Imperator Magus crushes you, it supposed to make him look stronger 😅

 

I may wrote that a bit clunky, but in this scenario Gwynolda got silenced by blood magic.

 

Silence is exist in the lore and as well any tes games before Skyrim, Eliza made a silence spell effect, which causes the target unable to cast, one thing skyrim got the worst magic out all tes games and not have event he basics as spells, but if your enemy can cast you make sure counter that or expect your magic will be countered and prepare against it.

 

Opposed Dnd and Pathfinder, TES games not really use vocals for cast, so I guessed its magicka messing up thing. 😝

Being silenced could be an explanation, but in that case you went a bit fast on the step of casting the silencing spell. :classic_smile:

 

Anyway, silence spells existed and were effective in TES III. In TES V, some casters can learn to cast their magic internally, allowing them to silent cast. That's not really on Gwynolda's level though.

6 hours ago, Resdayn said:

In Gauis case, that was anti-magic runes, its pretty much like makes all magic and casting not working, but that was applied as well the maker of the runes.

 

That was assasination attempt, which failed by the Defiler.

 

And despite everything Gwynolda is still an inexperienced fighter, its showing and was the point against an experienced and skilled enemy.

 

Anyway, both magic "switch off" happened by persons who either equal or better in skills, and the simply was not expected thing for our heroes. Gauis despite the warnings not really expected anyone even close to him magically. Gwynolda just not expect her mother even capable fighter and she can kill her easily by faith.

 

My characters actually making mistakes and not prepare everything, both Gauis and Gwynolda could avoid the magic thing with actually consider the possibility of happening, Gwynolda could won easily if she was emotionally right and prepared. Gauis can solve the runes, but he was not too bothered to spent time on it.

Well, if the caster is equally powerful than the person having his or her magic cancelled, and that there are active maneuvers to pull that out or cancel that ; then that's ok. But to make them a good twist in a fight (at least a good one, in a shounen perspective), both should be set and explained. Same than the silence spell.

 

Anyway, the way I see it, mere runes would require an immense power supply to be effective on powerful mages. Otherwise it would be like attempting to put out a fire with ice cubs. Characters such as Divayth Fyr would probably be delayed by one or three seconds in their cast before runes simply implode.

6 hours ago, Resdayn said:

First time actually focusing on combat, don't expect me be par on the more combat focused authors at first try 😳, things always improve later.

Im glad you liked. 😊

Absolutely. Which is way I do formulate my criticism right now. Yet I am quite pleased about reading a real fight in your stories. You are adding strings to your bow.  :classic_wink:

5 hours ago, Devianna said:

Surprisingly enough, Eliza's frost barrier (and that is indeed what she's casting) could work as a reflective shield.  White ice by itself has a reflective surface and can reflect up to 80-90% of UV light. If we assume that it is UV radiation that actually damages vampires and not some other, more fantastical component of sun rays (like the 'light of god' concept and so on) then it stands to reason that with some magical manipulation, expertise in arcane arts and ingenuity Eliza could indeed walk around in the daylight using this method. Of course it would be draining on her power and I doubt she'd be able to go sunbathing, but generally being outside shouldn't cause more than some discomfort for her in that state. 🤔

I didn't know that ice reflected UV. That makes it more legit indeed. Smiley_jap_HFR.gif

5 hours ago, Devianna said:

Personally I found the fight quite reasonable. The way I see it, the main point of the duel was the fact that Gwynolda for all her zealousness and bravado just wasn't prepared to fight and kill her own mother. Given enough time and practice she would've won the fight easily. After all, it would take just one strike powered by Arkay's blessing.  Yet at this point she's still just a girl with dreams of revenge and justice but without the temperance of an older, experienced fighter. We can see how Eliza not only toys with her but even gives her an opportunity to strike back by removing the paralysis. And still Gwynolda wasn't able to do anything.  I'm going to guess anyone more knowledgeable in the art of battle would shrug off the effects of blood magic rather quickly or simply block them. Gwynolda wasn't prepared to deal with the situation not just on a physical level but more on emotional one.  And she paid the price for it (hopefully not the ultimate one).

The thing is it happened to Gauis as well. While it allowed to showcase his physical strength, to me it was a complete nonsense in terms of power levels. Would that component be ignored, that would mean that regardless of Gwynolda preparation and skill, she could have her movement and her magicka disabled in the blink of an eye. Thus logically bringing to the same result each time. Unless the author needs it otherwise. Which shounen-wise is called bad writing.

 

Yet :

5 hours ago, Devianna said:

I think what you're saying is that all of these scenes could've been more expanded on with additional dialogues, thoughts or just descriptive sentences.  This would indeed make things much more clear for the readers. But this is just the style in which Resdayn writes and we have to take into account the language issue (which as you noted has improved dramatically). So with time I'm sure all of these smaller details will sort themselves out. ☺️

Absolutely. The key of consistent writing is to set enough hints beforehand so that the events can seem logical for the reader. No doubt Resdayn will gradually sort that out regarding future fights. But for that, it has to be mentioned. :classic_wink:

5 hours ago, Devianna said:

Oooh boy, let me just get out my books, scrolls and notes.  Ok, ok, there we go:

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Malicia : « A Devianna grandpa ! That's so cool !  :love: »

 

6 hours ago, Resdayn said:

You should write a letter about her preparing to battle and picking enemies she can handle, she would appreciate it.

Malicia : « And what if you give it to the wrong gal again, and she gets expert instead of Gwynolda ? :classic_angry:

 

               I'm not writing anything more if that's to get my letters burned, no. :classic_sleep: »

 

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48 minutes ago, Tirloque said:

Being silenced could be an explanation, but in that case you went a bit fast on the step of casting the silencing spell. :classic_smile:

 

Anyway, silence spells existed and were effective in TES III. In TES V, some casters can learn to cast their magic internally, allowing them to silent cast. That's not really on Gwynolda's level though.

 

I kinda realised some parts were missing, but no point putting them back now, maybe next time. 😅

 

I don't find anything about silent casting and not really remember, I ever heard anyone chanting spells, so not sure on the "silent casting", thats for dnd.

 

Gwynolda not really need a lot, just prepare against it.. Not like she ever was teached anything about the subject.

48 minutes ago, Tirloque said:

 

Well, if the caster is equally powerful than the person having his or her magic cancelled, and that there are active maneuvers to pull that out or cancel that ; then that's ok. But to make them a good twist in a fight (at least a good one, in a shounen perspective), both should be set and explained. Same than the silence spell.

 

Anyway, the way I see it, mere runes would require an immense power supply to be effective on powerful mages. Otherwise it would be like attempting to put out a fire with ice cubs. Characters such as Divayth Fyr would probably be delayed by one or three seconds in their cast before runes simply implode.

 

I don't think it was supposed to be a twist in Gauis case, it was just "Ohh well whatever" moment for him and used physical might, kinda was the point of the scene.

 

You can blame Gauis, since he literally not cared for the runes that much to explain 😝.

 

Runes probably just absorbed that one spell he intended cast, althought Defiler has way higher magicka pool then Gauis himself, but not really reached the point where we can examine her powers and abilities. 😝

 

Not really will focus on that genre.

 

48 minutes ago, Tirloque said:

 

Absolutely. Which is way I do formulate my criticism right now. Yet I am quite pleased about reading a real fight in your stories. You are adding strings to your bow.  :classic_wink:

 

Well narrative required it, but they far from the focus of my stories. 😊

 

I guess I need pull massively explanation for each coming fight next time.

 

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The thing is it happened to Gauis as well. While it allowed to showcase his physical strength, to me it was a complete nonsense in terms of power levels. Would that component be ignored, that would mean that regardless of Gwynolda preparation and skill, she could have her movement and her magicka disabled in the blink of an eye. Thus logically bringing to the same result each time. Unless the author needs it otherwise. Which shounen-wise is called bad writing.

I don't write Shounen, so the rules of power levels and you x power to do anything with x character is something I not care even remotely to the slightest. 😶

 

I mean majority of the shounen tend to have bad writing and much for issues with power levels and everything, and they ain't too famous of writing either.

 

These are a ruleset, not existing for my structure and writing, I have a different way of rules set in.

 

These are powerful characters, but not gods like in the shounen genre, I don't like that, thats not what my story about it, its not an action focused battle story.

 

Even dragonborn can lose all her mighty shout by a throat cut or damaging the vocals, Gauis can get caught off guard if he not really expect or pays attention and can die, he is expert martial combatant and magican, but if he got impaled by a pinchfork he dies.

 

Gwynolda capable to slay the Defiler if she land a hit, despite fighting a massively dangerous necromancer.

 

Not like Gwynolda would allowed to cast magic, if Eliza just cuts her down, casting at close range leaves you vunerable and not like she can properly fight a sword.

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4 minutes ago, Resdayn said:

I kinda realised some parts were missing, but no point putting them back now, maybe next time. 😅

 

I don't find anything about silent casting and not really remember, I ever heard anyone chanting spells, so not sure on the "silent casting", thats for dnd.

https://skyrim.gamepedia.com/Quiet_Casting

4 minutes ago, Resdayn said:

I guess I need pull massively explanation for each coming fight next time.

Nah, not really. Just put the missing parts, like there one image of the silence spell hitting Gwynolda, and it'll be ok. :classic_wink:

 

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16 minutes ago, Tirloque said:

 

Nah, not really. Just put the missing parts, like there one image of the silence spell hitting Gwynolda, and it'll be ok. :classic_wink:

 

Point of blood magic, it affects blood and manipulates it 😝

 

The missing lines were put on, but nothing major change.

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Oof! That was a very swift duel. I didn't think Gwynolda would fall so quickly! :O Eliza is seriously badass though. Vampires are always clad in robes and light armor, it is really cool to see a vampire in heavy armor. Against the norm, but totally fits! Fantastic!

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4 minutes ago, Collygon said:

Oof! That was a very swift duel. I didn't think Gwynolda would fall so quickly! :O Eliza is seriously badass though. Vampires are always clad in robes and light armor, it is really cool to see a vampire in heavy armor. Against the norm, but totally fits! Fantastic!

Well it indeed was 😨

 

Despite all divine advantage, she picked on a far more experienced women who got back to her prime, Eliza merely outclassed Gwynolda, and Gwynolda not prepared against her.

 

Yep, Eliza actually wear a full plate, outside of that, she has quite a few thing against the norm, like her tongue hehe.

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47 minutes ago, SpyVsPie said:

That ice sun shield was a very cool idea.

Yeah, idea come from if someone with arcane knowledge and bit of creativity get vampirism.

 

Eliza effectively figured out how to deal temporaly one problem.

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