Conglomerate

donttouchmethere · April 8, 2020

18 minutes ago, firepunch1 said:

"Vanilla critter spawn in skyrim has very poor performance, it damages our papyrus viability, and may lead to problems in some cases, especially for heavy scripted skyrim."

So true!

I thought it was included in the USMP... I guess I was wrong.

Will add it to the list! ?

I use it on my game too. So far it didn't prevent crashes if every devious mod started it's active scripts, while vanilla Skyrim added over 12 active scripts just for some stupid critters.

But the critter fix is also the only patch I know of that at least tries to solve that issue.

18 minutes ago, firepunch1 said:

Srt Crash Fix

I'm not yet sure if it really helps.

I think it's important if you go over the offical FNIS limit.

My game got more stable after removing it (means save games could get loaded again after removing it).

I went back to animation loading fix.

Grey Cloud · April 8, 2020

How does a dll which helps during game load cause an FPS drop in-game?

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firepunch1 · April 8, 2020

12 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

So true!

I thought it was included in the USMP... I guess I was wrong.

Will add it to the list! ?

I use it on my game too. So far it didn't prevent crashes if every devious mod started it's active scripts, while vanilla Skyrim added over 12 active scripts just for some stupid critters.

But the critter fix is also the only patch I know of that at least tries to solve that issue.

I'm not yet sure if it really helps.

I think it's important if you go over the offical FNIS limit.

My game got more stable after removing it (means save games could get loaded again after removing it).

I went back to animation loading fix.

Glad you're adding critter.

Yeah, it's either animation loading fix 1.0 and Srt or only animation loading fix 1.2 Srt will not work with 1.0. I know Srt's author recommends the ALF 1.0 + Srt solution but since it's his mod maybe there's bias

firepunch1 · April 8, 2020

4 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

How does a dll which helps during game load cause an FPS drop in-game?

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From the general stability guide I linked you:

The new version of ContinueGameNoCrash. Works without esp, dll only. Also fixes first loading bug and correctly shows messages with missed esp's. Can be found here: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/85443

Warning: may impact on fps. I found the dll consumes up to 5 fps for me what made me refuse the solution for personal usage.

Also not sure what your screenshot is supposed to show, something affecting performance doesn't neccesarily reduce your FPS below 60 or something like that.. For example: I can go in-game with vanilla textures and have a 60 FPS counter, I can also go in-game with 4K textures and have a 60 FPS counter, that doesn't mean that the 4K textures aren't still affecting performance at all. Everything adds up, especially if you're at the point where you're merging plugins to run them all.

Grey Cloud · April 8, 2020

12 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

I went back to animation loading fix.

My understanding is that they are doing two different things here.

ALF addresses the problem with Skyrim and multicore processors by loading all the character animations first on a single core. Load Game CTD Fix loads everything via a single core.

mrst's utility removes the character animation limit altogether. I started using it a week or so ago as my animation count had taken FNIS to 100.5%.

Grey Cloud · April 8, 2020

38 minutes ago, firepunch1 said:

I would never use Load Game CTD Fix as it has a small FPS impact,

You wrote this as a factual statement.

3 minutes ago, firepunch1 said:

Warning: may impact on fps

Note the word 'may'.

The point of my image was to show that I get 60 FPS in-game running LGCF. So therefore LGCF may not cause an FPS drop.

donttouchmethere · April 8, 2020

12 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

Load Game CTD Fix loads everything via a single core.

Can't say anything about it, because I don't use it ?

12 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

using it a week or so

I used it since it came out and it had no bad effect until now.

Also I'm always below the CTD FNIS limit, so I can't even tell if that works well.

Animation Loading Fix made loading my saves more reliable no matter the Setup.

Grey Cloud · April 8, 2020

1 minute ago, donttouchmethere said:

Also I'm always below the CTD FNIS limit

That's what I used to say until this week. ☹️

donttouchmethere · April 8, 2020

5 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

That's what I used to say until this week. ☹️

Maybe I'm too conservative ?

I'm at 90% FNIS CTD chance, so I guess that's like being over 100%, because some mods can't get calculated right by FNIS because they have errors in it.

firepunch1 · April 8, 2020

On 4/8/2020 at 3:45 PM, Grey Cloud said:

The point of my image was to show that I get 60 FPS in-game running LGCF. So therefore LGCF may not cause an FPS drop.

Again, this doesn't illustrate what you think it does.

Note the explanation I included in my reply, as you'd say.

Xamdir · April 19, 2020

Can Mod Organizer 2 be used? Can this cause any problems or can I handle it as described?

donttouchmethere · May 1, 2020

On 4/19/2020 at 10:19 PM, Xamdir said:

Can Mod Organizer 2 be used? Can this cause any problems or can I handle it as described?

Any mod manager can be used.

It's basically just a list of needed mods.

The mods are sorted like I would install them, means the lower ones have usually a higher priority and overwrite the higher ones.

If that's not the case, then there is a hint added.

kingofthenorth9 · May 27, 2020

So I need to install all these mods just to get Devious Cursed loot to work? is that right?

donttouchmethere · May 27, 2020

8 hours ago, kingofthenorth9 said:

So I need to install all these mods just to get Devious Cursed loot to work? is that right?

Yes and no ^^

There are a lot of "optional" mods in the list too. I hope I wrote if it is optional.

For DCL you need:

A working Sexlab + requirements (means a skeleton, meshes from bodyslide, skin textures)

A working DD installation + requirements (DDa, DDi, DDx, and PapyrusUtil, optional ConsolUtil, Bodyslide)

You try to install DCL. DCL has various requirements that have to be installed to even make it work.

DCL is at the end of a long chain of requirements so to say.

On this page you find all the mods you need to have a complete base setup that is needed for pretty much every devious mod on LL, not only for DCL.

You find here too what LAL is:

Alternate Start - Live Another Life

prevents the vanilla Helgen Intro and to start in a save cell to give all mods time to load

Phase I: All you need for Sexlab + optionals + useful mods => The basic setup for all Sexlab related mods

Phase II: Install a body to use with Sexlab and friends.

Phase III: All mods needed to install the DD series properly (for DCL you don't need ZAP anymore)

Phase IV: Script addons needed for certain mods. I put them into Phase IV to make sure you overwrite older version of them included in other mods.

DCL is basically at the end of a long chain of other mods that have to work properly first (aka requirements).

Get your Sexlab running first. If you know it works,

get the DD series up and running.

Only then you can try and get DCL to work (or Devious Vanilla)

kingofthenorth9 · May 27, 2020

thank you for the clarification

johntrine · June 9, 2020

a very useful list! nice work on that.

since i am always struggling to keep my mods within 255 limit, i use certain mods that allow me to use a all in one mod sort of deal i suggest this mod as it has uses of many mods from your list and some more.

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/84032

this one for modded alternate start of a AIO variety

and cass just cause it has some cool alternate starts

there arent any other mods that come to mind but if it does, i'll send them to you. i would also like to ask if you know about bashed patch (cause i sure dont. XD)

donttouchmethere · June 9, 2020

2 hours ago, johntrine said:

a very useful list! nice work on that.

thx!

2 hours ago, johntrine said:

mod as it has uses of many mods from your list and some more.

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/84032

Yes, all in one, the fast lane to conflicts.

Or at least to conflicts to better solutions and mods that do similar things but are newer.

Check out Merge Plugins and zEdit for merging esp/mods to have more space in LO.

Especially all those followers/armors/weapons/spells/tools/equipment/hairs/tats esp can be reduced that way

2 hours ago, johntrine said:

this one for modded alternate start of a AIO variety

there are a lot of LAL alternatives out there, but in this blog page I focused on one with pure functionality.

All you posted would need LAL as base anyways and are addons.

johntrine · June 9, 2020

10 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

Yes, all in one, the fast lane to conflicts.

Or at least to conflicts to better solutions and mods that do similar things but are newer.

Check out Merge Plugins and zEdit for merging esp/mods to have more space in LO.

Especially all those followers/armors/weapons/spells/tools/equipment/hairs/tats esp can be reduced that way

whenever i try to merge mods, it ends really bad with armors turning purple or followers turning purple... XD

btw, i've been using said mod for a loooong time and havent had much conflict.

11 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

there are a lot of LAL alternatives out there, but in this blog page I focused on one with pure functionality.

All you posted would need LAL as base anyways and are addons.

true!

donttouchmethere · June 9, 2020

15 minutes ago, johntrine said:

havent had much

not much, eh? ?

long time?

everything works, all fine, except...!

I read that in tech support a lot ?

(but I know what you mean by mods that combine multiple fuctions/followers/overhauls, helps to keep esp low and Skyrim fat)

15 minutes ago, johntrine said:

whenever i try to merge mods, it ends really bad with armors turning purple or followers turning purple... XD

maybe this helps:

Spoiler

I'm still working on it. I just have no concept. Probably because I just wildly try around until it works ?

worik · June 10, 2020

:classic_laugh: It took me until today to take note of your navigation bar.

I like it :classic_smile:

johntrine · June 10, 2020

9 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

I'm still working on it. I just have no concept. Probably because I just wildly try around until it works ?

finally.... someone made a easy to understand tutorial... finally!!!!

donttouchmethere · June 10, 2020

5 hours ago, worik said:

It took me until today to take note of your navigation bar.

I like it

It's your brainchild! ??

4 hours ago, johntrine said:

finally.... someone made a easy to understand tutorial... finally!!!!

It is?

Tell me how to make it more complicated and overloaded right now! ?

donttouchmethere · June 10, 2020

6 hours ago, worik said:

I like it

Is it possible to make a link from the navigation bar listed titles directly to the title, or will I all just make look blue and cause chaos?

Herma · June 10, 2020

This is fantastic! Only other mod I would add is Defeat

worik · June 10, 2020

1 hour ago, donttouchmethere said:

Is it possible to make a link from the navigation bar listed titles directly to the title, or will I all just make look blue and cause chaos?

Something like I did here : https://www.loverslab.com/blogs/blog/1217-the-northern-kingdoms-witcher/ ? ... well, I think it tends to get overwhelming if it's overdone ?

Or which title do you have in mind? Linking to certain paragraphs or headings inside a post s not possible to my knowledge.

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