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Conglomerate 02 - Core Mods

 

✍️ Introduction:

This page is intended as an overview how to create a basic Setup before adding more Mods to a Load Order.

I call the listed Mod combinations "Core Mods", because they are the base - or minimal requirement - for most lewd Setups.

I just copied step by step what Mods I usually install first - followed by a functionality check ingame - before even thinking about adding anything else from LL or Nexus.

The blog was created with NMM mechanics in mind, but the overwrites (NMM, brutally overwrite files in skyrim/data) aka overrules (MO - left plane, Vortex) are the same for any mod manager.

 

The sequence the Mods are listed also give a clue about overwrites and also the position of related plugins in LO. If no additional information is given overwrite the early listed mods with the ones lower on this page.

 

? Goal of this Blog page:

  • Installation of basic Skyrim fixes, patches and useful mods in preparation for LL mods
  • Installation of all most basic LL Frameworks and requirements.
  • Repeatable steps that will work for any basic LO to prevent user error early on.
  • Indirectly create a checklist and source for the most basic Mods that go with everything or are requirements for related plugins.
  • ? Creating Checklists to keep the overview
  • ⚠️ It's strongly recommended to still read the individual mod descriptions instead of blindly installing everything


? Definition of the abbreviations can be found here: Conglomerate - Abbreviations and File Types

 

 

Index:

Step 01 - ⚙️ Core Vanilla

  • Vanilla Patches, Basic Requirements, FNIS, Tools
  • ⚙️Optional

 

Step 02 - ❤️? Core Sexlab

  • SOS, SL, SLAL, Tools, Patches

 

Step 03 - ☠️ Body

  •  ⚠️Chose only one route to install a body:
    • All-in-One HDT Animated Pussy 4.0
    • Body installation via separate Mods
  • ☠️ Optional

 

Step 04 - ? More Nasty Critters SLAL

  • MNC SLAL
  • Animated Beast's Cocks (ABC HDT)

 

Step 05⛓️ BDSM Frameworks

  • ? ZAP Animation Pack
  • ?? Toys & Love
  • ? Devious Devices 5.2
    • ? Optional

 

Step 06 - ?‍? Script Extender

  • PapyrusUtil
  • ConsoleUtil
  • Jcontainers

 

 

 

Step 01 - ⚙️ Core

⚙️ Core Frameworks and their Patches and Fixes:

Spoiler

Mods to install:

 

  • Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch (USLEEP)
  • Recommend Fix: CritterSpawn Congestion Fix
    • Excinerus: "A fix for the bug spawner, clogging your script engine, causing stacks to be dumped and bugs to be spawned. "
    • Just tested and works!
    • SE download is compatible with LE
  • Optional: Unofficial Skyrim Modders Patch (USMP)
    • various fixes
    • overwrite USMP with newer mods or mods that modify certain scripts
    • includes among other fixes (v2.0):
      • Fix to Drain Health magic effects for Dwarven Constructs, Undead and Ghosts
      • better vanilla Freckles (also included in AIO-P)
      • Modern Brawl Bug Fix
  • Optional: Unofficial Skyrim City Patch (USCP) Reawakened
    • various fixes, maybe stabilizes FPS in cities
    • check the compatibility section
    • still testing
  • Optional: Skyrim Supplemental Patch
    • tries to fix what USLEEP missed
  • Optional: Quest Conflict Fixes 1.2
    • prevents vanilla Quests to get stuck if certain quest NPC die
    • prevents vanilla Quests from negating each other
  • Modern Brawl Bug Fix
    • only needed if USMP isn't installed
  • Fuz Ro D-oh
    • requirement
    • Support for unvoiced ingame dialogue
  • Optional: Immersive First Person View (IFPV)
    • works well with Sexlab Scenes for all players that dare to take a closer look
    • don't forget to toggle to helmet camera if the view clips too much or if everything is too far away (NUM4 by default)
  • SkyUI
    • requirement
  • UIExtensions
    • needed for AddItemMenu and various LL Mods
  • AddItemMenu
    • very handy tool to see and grab items in esp & esm, without the use of console
    • great to quickly test installed mods and to get items from mods that can't be found or crafted
  • RaceMenu
    • includes NIOverride (NetImmerse Override)
    • includes alternative to ShowRaceMenu Precache Killer
  • FNIS Behavior XXL
    • Optional: Animation Limit Crash Fix (SrtCrashFix)
      • The patch fixes the crash on game loading when you install too many animations with FNIS
      • removes the limit at which FNIS would CTD
      • retesting now
    • Optional: Animation Loading Fix
      • useful to stabilize the process of loading a game with FNIS XXL installed
        • I use it to prevent endless loading screens with FINS XXL
        • works reliable
    • ⚠️ don't use SrtCrashFix and Animation Loading Fix together, use only one. CTD if both are used! ⚠️
  • FNIS Creature Pack
    • Optional for SL creature animations
    • Requirement for MNC
    • ⚠️ FNIS Creature Pack v7.6 will show as "?" in SL, this can be ignored or use this fix: FNIS Creature Pack v7.6(FIX) data.7z
  • An alternative start mod, ⚠️choose only one:

 

⚙️ Optional:

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Mods to install:

 

  • Activate Button Away
    • moves the activate text away from the center of the screen
    • no more annoying activate texts during the SL scenes while switching to free-camera
    • Highly Recommended
  • Better Dialogue Controls
    • Highly recommended
    • helps with bloated dialog boxes after adding multiple NPC interaction mods
    • Highly recommended for SLdialogues
  • Better Message Box Controls
    • makes life better if in fight with lots of pop up message boxes
    • control message boxes via keyboard
  • Immersive HUD - iHUD
    • Highly recommended
    • deactivate all those HUD elements if not needed
    • or just make them very opaque
    • get rid of the sneaking cross-hair in the middle of the screen
    • can also toggle all additionally installed widgets
  • Remove Recurring Messages
    • removes the annoying reminder messages
    • Highly Recommended
  • Rock Trap De-Lameifier
    • Highly Recommended
    • safer travels for your followers and slaves thru triggered rock traps
    • check out the other MonoMan1 tweaks!
  • Auto Unequip Ammo
    • Works on PC and Followers
    • no more constant Ammo container on your back
    • Alternative: Ammo Unequip on Sexlab Animations 1.02
      • ⚠️ don't use Bazinga's Version and the Nexus Version at the same time
      • will also remove ammo from any Actor that removes ranged weapons
      • Drawback: no MCM to add custom weapons and ammo
      • Option to add custom ammo via TES5edit: Also sprach Bazinga

 

 

 

Step 02 - ❤️? Sexlab

❤️? Basic Sexlab Mods:

Spoiler

Mods to install:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Step 03 - ☠️ Body

☠️ All-in-One HDT Animated Pussy 4.0:

Spoiler

Mods to install:

 

  • Body Slide and Outfit Studio
    • An easy to use tool for customizing bodies and outfits, creating new bodies and outfits, and converting outfits between body types.
    • Add presets and meshes for bodies like UUNP (Special)
    • doesn't add skin texture, but need one for previews
  • All-in-One HDT Animated Pussy 4.0
    •  ⚠️DO NOT INSTALL ANY CREATURE RELATED OPTIONS OF AIO-P IF YOU PLAN TO USE More Nasty Critters ⚠️
    • All mods installed mods so far can be overwritten by AIO-P
    • Main reason for using AIO-P is to create a Sexlab compatible body without knowing all the necessary details or to search for needed mods.
    • includes:
      • 10 pre-build Unified UNP Special bodies with HDT Vagina with XML attached to meshes in order to have collisions with hands, belly, schlongs
      • 10 pre-build CBBE bodies with HDT Vagina with XML attached to meshes in order to have collisions with hands, belly, schlongs
      • ? includes HDT Physics Extension
      • Skin textures for Humans, Khajiit, Argonians
      • Followers
      • various additional tools, meshes, textures
      • ...
    • Sneak Preview pictures of the AIO-P FOMOD for more details: AIO-P FOMOD

 

  • XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended - XPMSE
    • overwrite ALL other mods installed so far
    • ⚠️ only overwrite XPMSE if a mod author asks for it in his mod description.
    • ? includes Realistic Ragdoll and Force
    • FNIS will show for XPMSE v4.60+: Skeleton(hkx) female: Unknown (126 bones)   male: Unknown (126 bones)
      • unless newer versions are installed of course
      • v4.60 was the last one that worked reliable, but by now there might be fixes out there for the newer XPMSE versions
  • Optional:
    • AIO-P files can be overwritten with:

 

☠️ Body installation via separate Mods:

Spoiler

Mods to install:

 

 

☠️Optional:

Spoiler

Mods to install:

 

  • SexLab Inflation Framework 1.2.2 beta
    • Framework for body-morphs
    • requirement for some mods
    • file needed: SexLab Inflation Framework 1.2.2 beta Installer.7z
    • works as a node to prevent conflicting body morphing if multiple mods try to change body scales
    • SILF patcher:
      • ⚠️ many if not all patches from SexLab Inflation Framework Patch Installer 2018.12.01.7z are outdated by now! ⚠️
      • ⚠️ some of the included patches overwrite mod MCM, which is bad if the patched mod got updated and has a new MCM! ⚠️
      • ? it seems I don't use any patches included in SILF Patch installer anymore and so far that seems okay.

 

 

Step 04 - ? More Nasty Critters SLAL

? MNC SLAL and Animated Beast's Cocks:

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 Mods to install:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Step 05 - ⛓️ BDSM Frameworks

⛓️? Zaz Animation Pack v8.0 plus:

Spoiler

Mods to install:

 

  • Zaz Animation Pack V8.0 plus
    • ⚠️LL download is only a txt file. In the txt file you find the link to the real mod.
    • some devices need to be build in bodyslide (more sliders in the Bodyslide "unassigned" group)
    • ⚠️If NPC don't use whips activate the "GENDER Specific Animations" Patch in FNIS
    • ⚠️ Combat mods that overwrite 1h attacks can also break ZAP whipping (the combat mods should still work, just don't overwrite animation files)
    • ⚠️ Combat mods that add PC stagger can break ZAP furniture temporary idles (ingame)
    • ⚠️Don't combine various ZAP versions, only use one

 

 

 

 

 

⛓️?? Toys & Love:

Spoiler

Mods to install:

 

  • Toys&Love Framework   
    • By now not only a BSDM Framework, but something like a LL all in one Framework
    • everything is well documented and also has extensive troubleshooting solutions
    • In a Virgin's words: Toys&Love is three Frameworks in one... Bondage, Love Scenes, and Rousing.
    • Toys Family of Mods
      • all Toys connected Mods are listed here with links
    • Toys&Love Homepage
      • The whole Hompage is an interesting read

 

 

 

⛓️ ? Devious Devices v5.2:

Spoiler

Mods to install:

 

  • Devious Devices 5.2
  • ⚠️ Don't combine DD Framework versions
  • ⚠️ DD 5.2 is AIO, means DDa, DDi, DDx are already included and all patches for BRRF and DD for him
  • ⚠️ Don't use the single downloads to install DD4 with the DD5 AIO installation

 

 

 

 

 

 

⛓️? Devious Devices v5.2 Optional:

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Mods I can't count as directly DD Framework effecting/patching/fixing, but that add directly to the Frameworks immersion/functionality without adding any quests/stories or similar:

 

  • NPC Support:
    • Better NPC Support for Devious Devices
    • fixes issues with DDs on NPC and gives them a chance to escape
      • Kharos:
        • Restore missing effects after NPC is reloaded by the game engine (for example after loading screen).
        • Restore missing effects after NPC's inventory has changed (for example after player giving new equipment to follower).
        • Prevent bound NPCs from using weapons and spells in combat; they will use bound combat if enabled in Devious Devices settings.
        • Allow manipulation of some NPC devices (insert/remove panel gag plug, link/unlink DCUR rubber gloves with D-links).
        • Escape system: If enabled in MCM this allows NPCs to struggle and maybe escape their devices.

 

  • Device effects:
    • Devious Training 2 v3.6 (DT2)
      • makes DDs more punishing by adding effects
      • adds DD training
      • helps to control walking speed and inventory weight
      • body morphs from wearing DDs
      • ? highest training effect is applied if wearing devices in combat
      • Consists of following components:
        • Devious Training Core - Devious Training Core 3.5.zip - Main Mod

          Devious Training Textures - Devious Training Textures 3.0 Beta.zip - additional textures, also can be used with Slavetats directly
          Devious Training Martyr - Deviouis Training Martyr 3.6.zip - Extra skills after some painful DD training
          Devious Training Mayhem - Deviouis Training Mayhem 3.6.zip - the body morphing part

    • Devious Body Alteration (DBA)
      • changes your body depending on worn DDs
      • changes body-weight depending on worn DDs
      • changes walking speed depending on worn DDs
      • ? registers any heeled boot for walking speed modification, just in case you wondering why those small heels on your armor cause you to slow down
      • it's scripts routines are faster than the ones of DT2, but it also misses some interesting effects from DT2. It is possible to combine DT2 and DBA, more about that here:
    • DT 2 & DBA Combo
      • To get the body-morph effects from DBA and the punishing/training effects from DT2 both mods can be combined. To do that install the following parts of those mods:
        • Devious Training Core - Devious Training Core 3.5.zip
        • Devious Training Textures - Devious Training Textures 3.0 Beta.zip
        • Devious Training Martyr - Deviouis Training Martyr 3.6.zip
        • Devious Body Alteration - Devious Body Alteration v1.5.zip
    • SexLab Disparity 14.4

      • One mod to add/modify all/any DD effect and body morph

      • Pro: absolute freedom to modify your DD experience

      • Contra: you might get lost in MCM settings for hours or days

 

  • More Devices:
    • LRG_Gasmask_1.0
    • PetCollar
      • unique collar with special effects
      • PetCollar effect can also be added without it's collar
    • Kziitd's XXX Toolset
      • aka: how to make installing devices complicated
      • ⚠️ might conflict with face expression from other mods
      • mod consists of
        • 1679344988_1.KziitdXXXToolset_DD5Main.7z
        • KziitdXXXToolset DD5 script Update.7z
        • 434524576_2.KziitdXXXToolsetDD5BS1.7z
        • 1309138999_3.KziitdXXXToolsetDD5BS2.7z
        • 4. KziitdXXXToolset DD5 Eng esp.7z
          • ⚠️ In case the gagged face expression isn't working install:
            • 5. KziitdXXXToolset Facial Animation.7z
    • Kziitd Feitsh Set - Bdsm Maid
      • Requires Kziitd's XXX Toolset to be installed
      • mod consists of:
        • 2080303704_1.KziitdFeitshSet-BdsmMaidDD5Main.7z
        • 2. KziitdFeitshSet-BdsmMaid DD5 En Esp.7z
        • KziitdFeitshSet-BdsmMaid DD5 Update Script.7z

 

 

 

 

Step 06 - ?‍? Script Extender

?‍? PapyrusUtil, ConsoleUtil, JContainers:

Spoiler

Mods to install:

 

  • PapyrusUtil - Modders Scripting Utility Functions
    • overwrite all
    • ⚠️never let any mod overwrite it
      • some mods come with older versions, don't let them overwrite the newer version!
        • Sexlab Framework
        • Simply Knock
        • Campfire
  • JContainers
    • overwrite all
    • ⚠️never let any mod overwrite it
    • Requirement for MNC SLAL and Creature Framework
    • ? in case JContainers gets removed from Nexus again, here the alternative: SilverIce's JContainers at GitHub ?? 
      • GitHub: press on Code > Download zip
  • ConsoleUtil
    • overwrite all
    • ⚠️never let any mod overwrite it
    • Needed for:
      • Inte's SUM (Skyrim Utility Mod)
      • DDi black fog blindfold effect (option in DDi MCM)
      • NFF (Nether's Follower Framework)

 

 

 

Edited by donttouchmethere

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That's a good one. Completeness and step by step. :classic_happy:

Though going with NMM about it .... while it will surely work, it has a touch of masochism :classic_wink:

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3 hours ago, worik said:

Though going with NMM about it .... while it will surely work, it has a touch of masochism

You might be just a bit NMM rusty :classic_sleep:

Overwrite, OVERWRITE THEM ALL muwhahahah ?

 

That was the easy part ?

Wait for the bashed patch and load order ?

 

I hope the NMM ppl know the difference between yes to overwrite mod and no to overwrite mod ?

 

Also isn't the whole Skyrim modding thing pure masochism before you can even be a Masochist IN Skyrim? ?

 

but now that you say it... i forgot

skyrim noble bed SL fix or

skyrim noble bed SL fix for spooning

and

pls, wear a helmet in here, parts of mods everywhere >.<

 

also duckduckgo throws out odd searching results, I think they don't know me as well as google :classic_ph34r:

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Updates:

  • Added Noble Bed collison fix for SL from LL
  • Added Noble Bed collison fix alternative by Double beds for spooning from Nexus (adds spooning animation and fixes the noble bed)
  • Added Sexlab fixes by Ed86
  • Added MMG's comments to Sexlab fixes in combination with MNC SLAL
  • Added warning for possible incompatibility between gag sliders for racemenu and Devious Training 3
  • Hint about AIO-AP custom race support

 

Scheduled:

  • SLF sound replacer
  • ZAZ sound replacer
  • colors or emojis to mark the basic mods, seems I'm a nitpicker if it comes to mods and now it gets crowded. Still, this are my basic mods on all my setups ?
  • MNC SLAL and SIC + SIC Patches [Immersive Wenches addons and SIC]
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So I'm going through your guide due to not modding Skyrim in a very long time, and let me tell you, It took about 2 hours to find this. I don't even remember how I found it.

but i would've spent even longer than that searching for a guide that was half this good.

 

donttouchmethere, you were sent from the Gods and we don't deserve you.

You must be protected at all costs. ?

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On 1/3/2020 at 8:43 AM, crystalpony said:

So I'm going through your guide due to not modding Skyrim in a very long time, and let me tell you, It took about 2 hours to find this. I don't even remember how I found it.

but i would've spent even longer than that searching for a guide that was half this good.

 

donttouchmethere, you were sent from the Gods and we don't deserve you.

You must be protected at all costs. ?

Thank you for the nice words! ?

I know how you feel.

Researching mod updates and find the right patches takes a while. ?

Even worse if you search for an old mod you forgot the name of but is a must have for your setup. ?

 

Also: HOW DID YOU FIND THE BLOG? ?

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Update 21.02.2020

 

  • added
Spoiler

 

 

  • Finished MNC SLAL installation and added Skyrim Immersive Creatures installation
  • added @MadMansGun's patch to the SIC installation
Spoiler

 

 

  • Tested DT3 with RM adjustable ball gag size and declare them now as compatible.
  • Newest RM adjustable ball gag size needs to be low in LO (older version's DCL patch just got merged in bashed patch)
Spoiler

 

 

  • added a warning about DT being resource hungry
Spoiler

 

 

  • added tags to the blog page *tagtagtagtag...*
  • added warnings about NiOverride High Heel fixes and their effect on SL animations and crawling animations

 

Still to add:

  • Devious Lore patches
  • testing now SexLab Utility Plus v20200219.7z
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16 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

You don't fool me. All this is just part of your evil plan to take over the world using acronyms. ?

I wish!

They start to take ME over!

 

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ohoh!

FNIS got updated.

I have overwritten FNIS so many times by now, I wouldn't even know where to start to strip down my mods to find the right install order again.

Especially related to MNC ?

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2 hours ago, Tyrygosa said:

Creature Framework is included in MNC SLAL edition, so no reason to install it separately

Hey, thanks for pointing that out!

Will change that entry right away.

 

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29 minutes ago, ovidius171 said:

hi @donttouchmethere

thanks for your blog, that's help

have you seen thisone?

https://www.sinitargaming.com/skyrim_graphics.html

The page is actually pretty cool (might be even awesome). ?

Also if I compare it to what I use I see that I'm on the right track.

Need to dig in and check what I missed all my Skyrim life ?

 

If I were new to Skyrim that list would blast me right off my seat ?

I guess now I can dare to peak ?

 

Also it might help my sanity to see some list that isn't about multiple LL mods for a change?

Thanks!

 

uiuiui lots too read and even more to try ?

 

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im glad you like'it

i just fucked up my game with the new XPMSE, MNC and FNIS.... soooo i have to work also

just now when i discover few really nice mods who's wait just for me to try them

cya

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Update:

  • added LL modder names ("@"links gave up half way ?‍♂️)
  • update for @skyrimfet's DT3 related information for v3.1 ?, the new polling system is way more stable now (thx to @GenioMaestro support)
  • removed DT v3.0 patches
  • added @LazyBoot's hobble-skirt patch ?
  • update for @MadMansGun + @Ed86's MNC / FNIS spider fix, not needed atm with FNIS creatures v7.6, at least that's what I understand
  • added more SLF furniture patches new on LL
  • removed any trace to SexlabUtility for now, just no time to test it
  • I try to keep up to date and hunt patches:
    • if you find some tell meeee!
    • if you made a patch/fix and it is uploaded here and you don't like it: tell meee!
  • update for Devious Lore by @Code Serpent, I hope I posted the right struggle patch o.o
  • removed spooning for skyrim because it seems to be not THAT compatible with Go to bed (if you had sleeping issues, now you know why^^)
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2 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

update for @MadMansGun + @Ed86's MNC / FNIS spider fix, not needed atm with FNIS creatures v7.6, at least that's what I understand

no, you still may want that one*, the behavior file in sexlab v1.62 was made with the old FNIS generator/data.

* if your not using my "ExperimentalSexLabCreaturesV1-62ToSLALConversion.7z"

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36 minutes ago, MadMansGun said:

no, you still may want that one*, the behavior file in sexlab v1.62 was made with the old FNIS generator/data.

* if your not using my "ExperimentalSexLabCreaturesV1-62ToSLALConversion.7z"

oh. OH!

 

pls in detail:

Sexlab 1.62 sslActorAliasFIX v2.7z => still needed

21.88 kB

FNIS_&_SL_Spider_Behavior_Patch.7z => still needed, !unless! ExperimentalSLCreatures is installed

15.04 kB

 

Updated SLF fixes

Basically back to what I wrote before ^^

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Could you maybe add a final overwrite/load order at the end of the guide? Especially with MO2 the overwrite order at the very least would be very useful.

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Update:

(I had to ?‍♂️)

 

21 hours ago, GGDX said:

Could you maybe add a final overwrite/load order at the end of the guide? Especially with MO2 the overwrite order at the very least would be very useful.

I'm sorry I still use NMM and my knowledge about MO is very limited.

I can do a LO with the posted mods tho. ?

 

About the overwrites. I think it works a bit like NMM file overwrites.

Means the same rules apply and you need to let mods win conflicts in MO that have a ...

wait!

Overwrites is something like creating a mod in MO right?

See I have no clue ?

 

Basically the blog is organized how I would install the mods from top to bottom.

Means the lower ones have higher priority if it comes to winning conflicts.

For example if I wrote a comment like

⚠️Allow to overwrite:

  • EVERYTHING!

it should win all conflicts during installation against mods listed in this blog or otherwise.

 

Fixes and patches should win conflicts with the mod they overwrite.

 

Same rule applies for

⚠️never let any mod overwrite it

that means the mod should win all conflicts, even if you install other mods not listed here later.

 

Maybe you explain me what exactly "overwrite order" for MO means. Although I guess it's the same as with NMM overwriting files physically.

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