Version control info: BETA Version: 1 Guide 5th relaise For PAHE 7.8.5 and DOM 1.7.3 version Realese date: 2021-09-08 --------------------------------------- Very quick and basic guide for new PAHE player only (Safe to SKIPP) --------------------------------------- Okay so you downloaded PAHE or PAHE and DOM this two boutie come with tons of function i discribe in deatil this guide, but you have no time to read all of this. Just need quick start and see things happen... so lets happen! -Check instalaltion done okay: Before do anything after instlation of this mod i suggest go mcm menu, check PAHE main menu see status: running, if not say running click the "stoped" status message to restart pahe. This happen fi your load order is strong and tons of script heavy mod in use. PAHE install self affter evrything else done the work. -Capturing things: First you need get something that do damage but not insta kill humanoid like npcs.. (or if you have... let say different taste some animal like troll or falmer)- Secund need find something to capture... any standard non uniqe npc do it, or non scripted ones like nazaem. Third beat/damage npc below 50% hp. the activate the use key (default "E") on the damaged thing. this pop up a message box where you chose capture slave. After activating capture procedure need wait the target get killed and cloned, then corpse wanish and copy of the target come to life. this is totaly okay and normal. DO NOT mess with the target corpse in this process! let it gone. it may or may not breake things inside skyrim. Final stepp: you get a new slave he/she in the grund crying for help, talk to them you have new dialoge options this is ensalving dialoge that leads you get a new slave. From this point the real fun start! -Usage of slaves: okay you captured your first slave congrats! now you can ask: how and what use of them? to use your new thing first need comunicate them using dialoge options. plese note with your slave you have ok salve dialoge option and tons of important functions put inside this. if you intrested more what dialoge options do exactly pls go the slave dialoge chapter of this guide. important: new fresh captured slaves love try to escape, to preverent this i suggest tie them up and beat until become subbmisive/resignation score above 60. to check slave statisticks use slave info spell. about slave escape preverentions and mechanicks inside this and slave traning go chapters about slave escape, and slave traning. in sort just tie them up and use some low damage attack until its resignation(in dom) get high enught. Or if you wish risk slave escape and love chase slaves not get tie them up and let them try escape. :D if slave try escape you can hunt down or talk to them stop try escape. Slaves can be used: as fighting fallower, pack mule, sex toy, target dumy to improve combat skills, prositute (if required mod installed, slave trained), boss of other slaves or trainer (Home sweat home mod needed) about this options you can read in detail the chapter named: "Slaves usage, or why worth keeping this slaves?" chapter to order slave to do any of this need use dialoge menu. most of this can be activated inside ok salve menu. if Diary of Mine installed other usages present: slaves can preform some posing that maybe player can enjoye. -about slave traning slaves in general preform better if properly trained, traning slaves has its own chapter i go details. here in sort: if a slave not do what you wish you can unish for it. in general punishemnt work best if slave tied up, then beaten or raped (if DOM installed: other option present like sobbing). in general order slaves do thigns slave fail not do punish them unti lslave cry/get broken/do what you ordered for. -about slave thinking salves has own "mind" and things taht like and not like espacialy if DOM installed i suggest read about this in slave presonality chapter this can improve your ability to break slaves. --------------------------------------- About this guide --SAFE TO SKIPP --------------------------------------- This guide written by Nonseen (mostly), this one contains qutes from PAHE and DOM mod creators. This guide written to help undestrand inner working of this two boutiful mods. Maybe in future i extend scope of this guide to Home Sweat Home and YAGAS. At this moment guide work in progress state, tons of spelling mistakes in it. maybe in the future i fix it after the content is okay. Time to time i plan update the guide and rewrite/delete/add sections if needed. Please check the version control info about this version of guide writen for what version of mods. --------------------------------------- Table of contenent and how to use it! !W0 --------------------------------------- Here it is what is inside of this guide, to make more easy to find specific chapter i suggest use CTRL+F and search for specific key words before in chapter name. !W1 -- Slaves usage, or why worth keeping this slaves? !W2 -- PAHE mod settup on your load order, about plugins !W3 -- First time start of PAHE/PAHE based mods !W4 -- Installing DOM and setting up! !W5 -- PAHE MCM menu inner workings what where why? !W6 -- DOM MCM menu inner workings, what where why? !W7 -- Capturing Slaves !W8 -- After capture of a slave !W9 -- Slave Escape mechanics explanation !W10 - Slave Escape preverention -PAHE only !W11 - Slave Escape preverention -DOM only !W12 - Logic behind Slave traning !W13 - Slave personality attributes - PAHE only !W14 - Slave personality attributes - DOM only !W15 - Reasons to punish in PAHE !W16 - Resons to punish in DOM !W17 - Punishemnts in PAHE !W18 - Punishemnts in DOM !W19 - Effect of punishemnts - PAHE only !W20 - Effect of punishemnts - DOM only !W21 - Slave moods -PAHE only !W22 - Slave moods -DOM only !W23 - Slave skill set !W24 - Slave dialoge menu - PAHE only !W25 - Slave dialoge menu - DOM only !W26 - About Slaver tools, usage and effects - PAHE+DOM !W27 - DOM Spells and poitions !W28 - Alcohol effects on slaves - DOM Only !W28 - Confusing slaves and effects in DOM !W29 - Slave frendship effects - DOM only !W30 - DOM Other futures !W31 - How to train a slave? Traning pratices for new slavers! - PAHE + DOM !W32 - The "Mister Slaver" talk (mini novell-is thing) ( Special Guide to slaver charater) !W33 - About a slaver character, advices for slave hunter character !W34 - Important mods to use with PAHE+DOM and effects on play !W35 - Testing PAHE+DOM, sending bug report, helping devlopment !W36 - Bonus: Slaver character skill plans, more ideas about slaver character ( old version ) !W69 - Credits, thanks saying to others who helped create this guide !W70 - Premissions about this guide --------------------------------------- Slaves usage, or why worth keeping this slaves? !W1 --------------------------------------- In PAHE: Can used to prey for hunting running targets, just let slave try escape in exterior space. Slave can be used as fuck toy or something similar. can be used as traning dumy. to test out or train spells(restoration,destruction,conjuration-solutrap), combat skills, even train sneak attack. but to do this we need realy heathy slave, or risk slave get killed in the process... i suggest ebfore traning wepon skills make a save... accidents happens, slaves dies. use them as fallowers: no kidding all slaves has similar functions as fallowers expect not level up with player. ower time slaves can become relative good fighter. all slaves gifted insane heath regen and all considered protected so not going to die quick and easy. with right number and ranged attack option slaves can deafat any foe. Slave army: not kidding 50 lvl 1 bandit can kill mamuths, giants within minutes.i mean 2 mamuth one giant same time! i tested it, done it, working. with ranged wepons or mage slaves killing dragons not out of possibilitys. problem is skyrim made in mind player and few fallower, many many spaces to close for more than 5 npc with player. so besad on experiences maximum 10 npc fallowing palyer should be okay but more not. more than 10 give more truble than good. Pack mule: (need to use: "cary this me slave" form "okslave..." menu) slaves can be used carry evrything from a dungeon to the treaders to sell for money. if you ask me very very good thing and useful. selling stuf to traders means free spechcraft traning ->free lvl up +more money to buy traning IF right mod installed slaves can be used as prositutes! To do this you need TDF aggreive prositution mod, slave with 80+subbmision or 35 sex traning or both. slaves can make you this way money. Slave can be sold for good money in Fallglow slave camp nort east from windhelm. Map marker avible after mod instalaltion. Here deep inside the mines look at jerok the slave master. he vill buy slaves from player more better trained the slave he give more money. the mine buy only limited number of slaves at the time. all in all this is good way to make money, and get rid of not so usefull slaves. In DOM: Slaves can be used to entertrain player ordering them pose differnet ways like masturbate. Falower time to time make use of slaves, to meet own sexual needs. At the time of writing no more other "usage" of slaves implemented to DOM. Other important PAHE mods slave usage options: HSH(Home Sweat Hom) give option to train salves in slave hause or slave traning camp, use slaves as trainers slave house organizers! Give option to go salves to acution where slave can be sold or new slave can brought. YAGAS(Yet You Get Another Slave) all about slave trading , you can sell nearly any one slaves for good money , ower time get acces slave acution where you can buy new slaves or sell them. this one ower time allow player turn one of the orginal player home into brothel for money and sex. Maybe other PAHE based mods exist that i not aware of if i missing some pls let me know! --------------------------------------- PAHE mod settup on your load order, about PAHE plugins !W2 --------------------------------------- IMPORTANT: DOWNLOAD THE RIGHT PAHE VERSION! This one different for SKYRIM and SKYRIM SE! If you use Skyrim or Legendary edition of Skyrim DO NOT INSTALL SE version. This not going to work! PAHE come with multiple version if you download the full package and install itt using a mod manager tool you see this one has multiple esp's. Fallowing ESP critical to PAHE work: Paradisehalls.esm Paradisehalls_SLExtension.esp All other esp not critical. Fallowing ESPs give additional contenent to PAHE: paradisel_halls_fellglow_slave_camp.esp <-give new location where you can sell slaves, buy slaver items pahe_leakewiev_manor_cell.esp <- give special room to Felkrath player hause cellar where slaves can be stored. paradisel_halls_farengars_studi.esl <-give free slaver tools and items to farengar desk, just check in the farengar rooms. other esp as patchs for other mods. if you not have the mod that require them dislable them in your load order. --------------------------------------- First time start of PAHE/PAHE based mods !W3 --------------------------------------- This chapter contains information about first steps of setting up PAHE to work with new saves. Starting new game or loading existing one after PAHE installed player need wait to PAHE scripts run in backgrund and install the mod inside the save file. This shoud happen automaticly after all other script heavy things loaded and working. If not happening go to PAHE MCM Menu and click the PAHE status Stopped message. this one restart forcefuly the pahe installation process. Optional do a quick save then reload. this one also make PAHE installer try run. After the installation process finished you should get a new quest named: Slave tracker. Suggested reading: PAHE MCM menu inner workings chapter . This one help set up PAHE for your likings. --------------------------------------- Installing DOM and setting up! !W4 --------------------------------------- At the time of writing, DOM come with fomod installer. This baby detect your active plugins and auto select needed patches for DOM. To DOM work as intended need to detect you are using HSH or YAGAS or both. You only need tell the installer you using SSE or Classic Skyrim version. DOM not need special attention after installing the mods. Work well with PAHE. --------------------------------------- PAHE MCM menu inner workings what where why? !W5 --------------------------------------- So this chapter counting all the options and opponinons come with PAHE! If you new to modding finding MCM menu you need go ingame(load save maybe...) press "esc" key go system mian tab. then go"modconfiguration" now you opened up MCM menu gratualtion! here select in the left hand panel: "Paradise Hall Reborn" dont ask me why hiding under this name Paradise Hall Encahnted probably becuse some sort of respect to former old one self. ( i not the only one who has skizofrenia or soemthing here XD) opening thes new open the PAHE main MCM menu page. to come back here chose: pahe live on X.X.X (this is not the sort of XXX films! this is here!) i put x to the PAHE version number i dont know witch one you facing. to me it is 7.5.8 you probably get different one. matters not! yours older so probably better.( you know older version means more experienced and advanced... or something similar) This menu middle of scrren: ===Toggles== options this section contains option that moderate how PAHE inner working beahave, ok this one in general tru most part of this MCM menu... stay with me! this part is very important one! All the option here is on/off style thing. if "X" in the option check box things is ON, if cechk box empty things off! first option is: Advanced Leash collar -- if on(deafult): slave with leash collar NOT TRY to escape. if you new to this mod i strongly suggest dont tuch this one! this makes lot lot more easy your beggining slave carrier. of corse you love the chalange? set off! and get ready use "leash to spell"(alternation spells) use aggresive animations -- it off(default): animation system NOT use only aggresive(mostly rape) animation if you/others sex with slaves swtich it on if you only eish brutal /nasty/ animation only as action involves your slaves Show slave count - if on(default) always inform you with a system message about slave count change, VERY IMPORTANT AND USEFUL! You more quickly notice if slaves escaped wit this! auto rename toggle - if this one off (by default) system not give random names to your new "special non mutual intrest friends" this one i suggest switch it on... reason for this simple: more easy to indentifi slaves by uniqe random chosen name insted of orignal one most cases. if yo ucapture a bandit camp you end up 10+ similar named slave. hard to fallow who try to escape... ho beaheve wrongly... mixed races name toggle - this one off( by default as you can see... this is my style of doing this guide first always default!) this one controls how behave the aotu random naming system. by default state auto renamer give evry race different race specifick names. so Altemer gets altemer styled names... i think this is useful forr immersion porpuses. LeveledActorBase Toggle --this one of by default and i never ever tryed switch on, honestly no idea how work out. i considered to risky my save file to experiment with it. Basicly this one do some behind the scanes magic and make your slaves level up with you liek a follower do! ===Sliders=== yes sliding is goood, especiali in hot summer in whater slide or soemthing ... so you get the point. sliders are good thing, honestly i newer tuched any of this one. to me all okay where it is. Slyiders behave different than toggle logical on or off state. this ones like pick a point in a scale. more option more intresting things yes. Flight Threshold -(60) this one important one this one control how mutch subbmision/resignation traning needed slaves forget what is it means freedom: and try to get it by running away from you to the ending sun or someting similar( joke about western movies ending where cawboys move directly to the landing sun). if you set lower slaves start stop flee lower subbmision/resignation(PAHE+DOM) rating. Rape Timer - (15) as name is strange and nasty this one not so... you know its happen... realy that you get ""forced"" to train or teach that nasty slave how things working. I this procedure of teaching slaves things( and becuse this is Lovers Lab mod) time to time slave master have some sex with slaves that from slave persepcive menas rape. after this action totaly understandible slave has let say... need some rest. this slide in secund count how long this "resting time" keeps. during this time slaves hit grund heavy bearth and do nothing. for immersion shake or something similar. ====Debug==== if you need use this section... you have problems... ok we have all problems in life but in your case you have technical problems in skyrim with this PAHE mod or DOM mod or both... never the less many option here provide great help to fix this if possible. Status - "started" this one a special button! if ysou click the writing after "status" pahe initiate a pahe wide system restart. this one a crazy process i mean "crazy"! Frist of all reset all slaves you have, and the system it self i mean PAHE this one based on how many slaves you have can take VERY LONG TIME! Becuse need save all slave stats, reset them and do some magic then reload all of them( from the MATRIX [another movie cameo/joke]). this many cases fix the problems we have in the system or if you duing testing find more intresting anomalys things in pahe/dom. so tuch this one if you feel something very strang hapening maybe this one magic button fix it. Slaves x/128 -this one not a button but information display. uniqe i know! this one shows how many slaves you as palyer own. this is a tricki one by the way... This number include only PAHE slaves, if you "store" some other slaver mods your PAHE slaves like HSH(Home Sweath Home) the stored slaves not counted here!) Enable Slave info spell(true) allow you player own use and abuse the slave info spell. this baby cost 0 magica in alternation and give no alternation traning. so not so mutch abused for own skill traning, but useful to discover slaves stats. Enable Debug -(true) debug is important... if you doing testing VERY IMPORTANT. so let it be. i write this one down one chapter somwhere about testing and helping PAHE+DOM mod creators debbuging and fixing things all the creator love if we players give them feedback and bug reports. and probably makes less buggy our game... i call this win-win! ==keys=== the misterus keys that not open any dor but keys that you pres as you wish special ... i mean very special things to happen. sadly all of them here no default value... so you need define what key you press activate the disired function! Whistle key (???) if you press this button magic happen you see at once! Your fighter slaves teleport to you all at once and slash evrything. basicly i call "my army!" buttun! especialy if you have 50+slaves and all ordered fight for you! this one can and will create soem chaos probably some system freezing or soemthing but fear not 50+ slave can manage any and evrything... ower time. yes even level one slaves can kill giants and mamuts carzy ? yes! i tryed it once :D of corse only for test porpuses but you know... things need to be TESTED! After soem times and after killing done, all the slaves tleport back original location where they come. So one can call them agin... Reeaaaaly nice pocket ARMY! Mark key (???): thi used to mark something or somebody for enslavment VERY useful if lot of your """Friends""" around you and wish to kill some one you wish enslave and probably your intrested one not going to live enught to apture it normal ways. this cases be quick aim at them press this button and target marked and you ifnromed by litile red light around the target. now if target dies slave capture procedure starts. simple is that! so fear not kill it! ----enslavment menu to acces this menu you need do littile work your own! (yes this happen the best of as all the time... )you need move your mouse to the let hand panel and click to the "Enslavment" fear not our hard work pay back! The intrest rate is very high in this case! This option show you what can be enslaved and how! or at least you can dicide how you wish enslave and what part of skyrim population! First look strange? THIS IS 'LL MOD'! (copyed from "THIS IS SPARTA!!!!" or soemthing similar ho knows) You not only can enslave man and mear... oh nooo friend there is lot moooore options! (options that many not wish to know... probably) most of the option here is logical yes-no, and all logical in YES state by default! Fleeing togle - this manges victims that flee can be captured default YES -big yes! we love runawayers capture to force them runaway agin as slave... or soemthing heath toggle - this one intresting! this one only one here who linked a slider! and only one slider here in this menu: heath max precentage slider - (50) to understand this one porpuse need understand somethings: normaly slave capture involve lot of violance AND need to potential slave beg for merci... as we all good peapol and nice and not wish to do nasty things to others in skyrim we this way can spare life of our former enemy... this cases is if enemy on "blead out stage" this is bead becuse many many potential slave get finishing move killed, or simple to lwo hp to surveve some brutal hits from dragonborn. but this slider change the game! default if target has less than 50% of max heath can be enslaved simple. so no risk of killing...( or at least not mutch risk... lvl 1 bandit die from one 2handed wepon strike... if this weapon called ebony battlaeaxe) Sleep togle -soem oen sleeping and you wish option to capture it on your will YES or no? i think all slavers say yes so no tuching this thing! Paralyze toggle - for ""reality"" shake or soemthing similar like immersion shake DO NOT tuch this one, let it be... please! let it you paralisis poitions and spell full efect on victim and as paralized... let can be capture it as slave. a helpless "inicent" ( at least at the moment )potential slaves can be captured this way. ( so paralizis spell get another good usage!) Enslave fallower toggle - if you wish play special games with your fallower or simply to many of them and wish make "free up slom slotee" this one can be usuful otpion and honestly better than Boliath "solution" with some sacrafice altar... yes you can neslave your fallower by deafult! Slave toggle - this one allow you enslave your slaves. sounds crazy yes? but useful if some of your slave gone crazy. and other solutions like reset slave not working. Enslave falmer - YESSSS now the skyrim has before and after PAHE. Before PAHE you can be enslaved by many many thing like Falmers(thx LL modding community for this!). NOW after PAHE YOU can enslave the Falmers! (honestly not tested personaly yet...) to fully test this future i probably need enable... soemthing in Lovers Lab flamework-animations-enable creature animations Enslave Dwamer spahre - this babys move quick hith hard, immune lot of things like turn undead... so why not enslave them? :D dont ask i dont know how to train them for sex usage, and no i dont tested this functions... enslave trolls toggle - this PAHE mod lots of intresting future i never tested this one one of them. probably trolls act as very good fighter but very large one... in tight corridors probably cant move... ehh limitations not like it. no information about sex traning or any traning possibilitys... ===First 50 slave ===Slave page 2 ===Slave page 3 This tree similar, and very very special lot of buttuns here! i know evry one love push buttons (and other things to push) part of human neature... dont say otherwise! So this menus contain direct acces all your slave! indormation abou slave morale, traning status and position. Just pick one random slave, probably found frist 50 slave page. check it out! you can see what slave curentl doing, where is from player cahracter. About very special buttoms! First of all you can rename any of your slaves! this is very important future if you not use auto rename future. if you ahve 50+bandit in your slave grup and need fins specific one... can be hard. other intrestin buttons: reset slave ->this hopefuly fix soem problem with slave if you experience anomalys, something wrong with some slave.. push this and pray fix it. probably do! other one teleport me that slave buttom. this one is VERY intresting one, all the times no matter how far from you the slave you push this one and slave teleported directly behind you! This sounds NOT intresting? you realy wrong my friend! This works on escaping slaves! :D this vay you can bring your allies khm i mean slaves places where you suposed not to do. but this help probably very great! like sovangrade... Finaly a very uniqe buttom: set slave free. as it doses slave get freed from slavery. you are realy generus to to do this... --------------------------------------- DOM MCM menu inner workings, what where why? !W6 --------------------------------------- DOM has own mcm menu for fine tuning inner workings like PAHE. Important to note, DOM "use" PAHE settings in many cases. I mean PAHE settings effect how PAHE+DOM behave and working. so before continue read, i advise read PAHE MCM menu settings (and set them up to your liking!). ===Extensiations=== Frendship: Slaves can make new friendship with other slaves, this only can happen in cell change ( you know loading screan, fast travel, or getting kidnaped by dark brotherhood) You can read more about slaves and frends a separate chapter called: "Slave frendship effects". Be WARNED: this future allow some realy funy scenario to play like mass slave escape attempt! Felings in topicks on-off switch default on, this allow slaves tell the owener(you) they feelings about what happening. ===hotkeys=== tons of other hotkeys waiting to set up or ignored forewer. You are the one you make the call! ( and dicide not use tons of good function....) Abudction key - this one here for test reasons best of my knowlage. target one npc press this button and npc get slave captured. no question asked no messing up with npc conditions or other stuff. easy simple and very useful to capture high level(40+) npcs as playing lvl 1 character. NPC Trait key - this one some find use very often. this button give you npc trait info pop up window. Side note: you can request this information from the slave. But this way waaay faster. NPC Fealings key - intrested your captives how feel? and loking on the npc not tell? use this and you going to know how feel. As most of the message boxes this one can be accesed using slave dialoge menu, lets have sirus chat option. This one found: "How are you fealing as slave?" Slave Prise key - this one used many times and great help! If a slave do soemting well ( or many cases not do stupid things that makes the owener angry) you can prise them for it. Of corse yu can do it using dialoge menu but far easy and faster this way. Ivery strongly suggest set this up in your game! Slave Scold key - this oen oposite to prise. Slave mess up someting and you feel slave need to know he is bead slave. use this. then some cases after thw whiõp this way the slave defintitly know soemting messed up. of corse this option can accesed using normal slave dialoge menu, but hey! using this instead far more quick! you not need wait as slave tell sotrys about sory master etc. no messing around circle simple and effective. ===Abduction wepons=== honestly i have no experience this tools. in theory this wepons used to abduct npcs. and this limit switches can control what grander of npcs can be abducted. sounds useful by the way. ===Traning speed=== how quick or slow slaves get trained? This sliders move from 20 to 200. here 20 means slaves trained chosen way 5 times slover 200 means slaves train 2x times faster than originaly default all sliders 100 Sliders: punishemnt -meaning pain punishemnt effect sex -traning speed for sex rape - traning speed by rape sex told-off - scolding effectivnes on slaves prise multiper - prising slave effectivness ===Tears=== YES! Slave not only can cry but heave tears! This is great adtition from DOM! (one of many-many addittion to be honest![Nonseen thinking:"huh okay she put that whip down i okay!"]) This swtiches control how tears work. this tears very helpful to see slave feelings and mental status. after 2 ingame hour beating, scloding, reaping slaves probably full of tear and has some littile mental issues. as you look slave faces you can tell. But if you not like see males full of tear you can switch it off. Tears for females - default on, femlaes can use tears Smuged mascara for females - females has black tears in sochked mod soem times. this is maybe strange firt but if you thing females tendecy use make up, and tears tendency to mess up with make up. more realism! Tears for males - males can full of tears! if osme one not like male crying can switch it off. but honestly, this not real. after half in day "traning" evry one has tears on face or some point at least. Smuged mascara for males - this default off, for good reason. no make up on males so no black tears. that can be changed swtiching this one on! --------------------------------------- Capturing Slaves !W7 --------------------------------------- Many wayhs to capture new slave. all reqire change target state somewhat vonuble to enslavment. After target status vonuble you can press use button default 'E' to pop up capture slave dialoge where you an chose capture slave. 1-Simple damage heath of the victim beyond threspoint in basic 50% of max heath then start talking using 'E' key by default, chose enslave 2-paralize the victim with poision or magic then procede the capture 3-make victim fear from battle this can be done using illusion, fear poision, or aking the mfear for life ( usualy high level character) fleeing victim can be aproched talked to slavery 4-use mcm menu set up a mark for capture quick key (MCM menu-> Paradise Hall Reborn -> keys section (this found first page of the pahe mcm menu) -> mark key if you mark a npc using this key and npc get killed, the npc respawn and as captureable slave 5-sleping npc vonuble to! just go close the sleping victim and initiate capture! important: DO NOT CAPTURE QUEST GIVER OR QUEST NPC that may ruin your questline! important: DO NOT CAPTURE NPC THAT HEAVY SCRIPTED this cause lot of truble maybe ruin your game! --------------------------------------- !W8 - After capture of a slave --------------------------------------- Capturing a slave need take 2 steps. First to make target vonuble and start enslavment. Secund step after started capture process the target get killed and cloned, this happen after you chose in dialoge menu capture the target. The process fully automatic, this process kill the original npc make a clone of it. The clone get a slave "mind" and default slave skill set. This means original ai scripts and package gone, this is why no capturing heavy scripted npcs. The clone script done you get a slave who in floar and screaming for mercy. if slave tracker quest active slave probably get marked ( if your slave count not more than 30, known bug more than this number new slaves not get marked) The slave ready to secund step: you need aproch the slave and tell them a situation: He/she is a slave now, and you can give them first comands order them wear things like Leash Collar. In PAHE normal slave collars has no effect, only Leash collar( or magic collar) this one not allow slave try escape. In DOM collars and low quility clothing has effect on slave mind! after that dialoge slave has some sort of afraid/shocked state for few minutes/secunds. this time slave fallow most of your command and not try escape. after slave "cools down" slave mood change and the first posible moment try escape! This means slave start runaway! To avoid this i sugges after capture process finished restran evry slave and train. --------------------------------------- !W9 -- Slave Escape mechanics explanation --------------------------------------- This chapter aim how slaves try escape and escape system how works. This true both PAHE and DOM! A-Why slave try escape? Probably no one like restrained, used, humilited, shamed, threatened like pice of thrash, beaten up...ahh okay maybe wrong topick... Back to busness: mopst new slaves not like being slave so try to change this. After some(lot of) traning this can be changed! B-Runaway mechanics,when slave counted escaped? Nothing is simple isint it? Those damm slaves started ruanway let see what going to happen when and why? 1-staying close effect if slave screming like hell and run like one has chased by pack of hund or a slave master...( actuialy you) you can chease them, if you keep yoursel within a set distance( let say 2handed wepon lenght probably going to work) you can chease the slave forewer. Slave not going regisetered escaped. doing this when you chased by : 2 tiger cat, 3 wolf, 1 giant, 3 mamuth and some nasty ice mage probably going to problematic. (and i not incldued the dragon who attack time to time this party from above! YES this can and will happen!) 2-slave escaped with cell change if slave change cell AND you not in "close" range. slave counted escaped... ( YOU FAILED! ) its happens... try out next time! (and load your save game before slave managed escape) 3-slave left behind and escaped this happen all times if one pick up large grup of slaves run out of iron cufs and bind them with ropes... and before leaving cell forget some slaves order fallow them. or just simply told slaves stay here and wait for me... and never come back... or come back to late. Most slaves with low skill traning thing this is the right time to escape... so yo ucan "lose" your slaves. especialy if too many of them and slave tracker fail to mark all of them :( :( i advise use ancient technick to avoid this: always count how many slave fallowing you and keep in mind how many should fallow you! C-"Neatural" limitation of slave escape or witch cases slave fail to escape even if try? Some intresting facts about where slaves no way to escape or let say problems to do properly and wanish from sight. 1-no map proper navmesh: navmesh is a GPS like thing for slaves. This tell slaves where can you go and where you cant. its happens navmesh some places wrong and slaves canot run the way as slave wish. like real life GPS soem times lead false way... 2-interiors mess up slave minds in escape. Slave dont know where is to exit and mindlesly wonder inside the interior and never archive escape. so interiors safe place to let slaves lose and try escape. As long as you not mind slaves go activate traps, bring to you new enemys, and if slave told fight for you... by accident your slaves maybe kill potential new slaves too. --------------------------------------- !W10 - Slave Escape preverention -PAHE only --------------------------------------- Okay in PAHE slaves NOT try escape if slave subbmission above 60(bí default can be changed in mcm menu). To archive this you need simply punish/train slave enught. This is the best method to preverent slave escape. Secund best method use leash collar. This magic collar preverent slave escape 100% Added bonus using spell called Leash and found farengar desk if farengar studis plugin enabled. You can anchor the slave one point of space. So slave not going wander off. Third and final method use iron cuffs you can make any forge. This one is a restraning divice that no way slave going to escape. This one make slave helpless and stay where binded forewer. Sadly this not allow as to move slaves. but slave not going to escape! If slave on luse and try escape 2 method known to stop this: one go close to slave and start talk to him, this way you can chose punish them as punishemnt restrain them. This 100% stop runing away from you. other punihsemnt may work well. Opzion B to stop slave runing away from you simply hit them hard whit any wepon/spell/or whip. Just dont kill them only damage them 2-3 hit enught to slave see no way to escape. --------------------------------------- !W11 - Slave Escape preverention -DOM only --------------------------------------- In DOM evrything a bit bigger then PAHE. Slave escape scale can be bigger than PAHE! Slave with friends can initate mass escape: i have 3 friends and i going to escape! Why not tell other friends and we can try all to gether maybe one of us sucseed! SO YES! Slaves try escape with friends! MORE is better, or soemthing... up to 5 slaves can try escape same time! SO maybe nice to keep in mind what slave friend what slave and restrain them all if not well trained some of them. Other change to PAHE: In dom Resignation work for limitation of escape instead of subbmision. so 60 or bigger resignation traning preverent slave escape. GOOD NEWS: as DOM slaves try escape this ones has tendency to fall on the grund as trying run a way like a horror movie where the screaming women trip and fall in flat grund. Thiss happen all the time the slaves that try escape. Qute from mod author: "The slave slipping while running away is a new feature, it happens more often to anxious slaves and more often if their wil and toughness are low." All other limitation and mechanicks work here as work in PAHE. --------------------------------------- !W12 - Logic behind Slave traning --------------------------------------- Okay so let say you managed capture some or one slave. Restrained to not escape and wondering what need to do make slave more useful. Slaves has slave skills incrasing slave skills make them better slaves. In this case better means slave less resistant to fallow your commands and nottrying to escape. Added bonus a well trained slave priced higher in slave market as selling them. Train slave need force them to do slave things, use slae skills. Fallow your comands, if slave not flalowing your command need to be punished all the time. this way slave skills incrase. Of corse saves has tendency NOT fallow your commands you need to patient and persistent. Ower time slave skills incrase and more and more fallow the commands, slave skill traning get slower. How to train specificly slaves a bit differnet in PAHE and DOM. To udnerstand how to train slave need understand first how slave minds working. Then what slave skill linked what type of punishment, and what type of punishment reason. This 2 is different. --------------------------------------- !W13 - Slave personality attributes - PAHE only --------------------------------------- Slaves in pahe has no real personality, diference beatwen slaves exist. Soem more resitant than other to specific punishemnt types. some more likley fallow your orders than others. No way to tell what slave what type of "personality" in it. --------------------------------------- !W14 - Slave personality attributes - DOM only --------------------------------------- This chapter contain very important information about DOM slaves personalty inner workings. One understand this fully can use the knowalge more quick breake slaves minds and archvie full subbmision from slaves. But not needed to understand this to archive things in DOM. Over time nearly ani method can lead victory ower slaves will. DOM use HEXAGO model to model NPC personality. This model used to discribe personalitys. more info on this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HEXACO_model_of_personality_structure I try write it down here as i understand, and simple as i can. This model use 6 "diemnsion" or factors to discribe personality and traits. Factors mesured in scores. in DOM case 0-100 scale best of my knowlage. This alone not enught to discribe a personality so we need traits to discribe more the personality. Evry factor contain 2 set of traits that used to discribe personality, this traits are: Facets and adjecents. In DOM implementation this ones shown as Facets traits. To understand how personaility simulation work in DOM easy way this: The HEXACO 6 dimension in DOM represented as Peronality traits (tis traits beatwen 0-100 score ind DOM) : DOM name - HEXAGO equialent - Meaning of this in DOM slaver perspecitve {Fallowing part of writing from DOM Author: TrollAutokill, thank you for clerification } Unlawful/Honest - Honesty-Humility (H) - High score means slave is more sensitive to wrong punishments, discipline and pain and more quickly gets submissive training. Anxious/Calm - Emotionality (E) - Low score means slave is more sensitive to fear and stress, more quickly gets afraid, hence more fear training. Shy/Lively - Extraversion (X) - Low score means slave is more sensitive to shame, fear and stress, gets faster humiliation training. Mean/Kind - Agreeableness (A) - Low score means slave is easily aggressive, more sensitive to stress and get faster anger training. High score means more sensitive to sorrow. Lazy/Thorough - Conscientiousness (C) - High score means slave cares about stuff and is more sensitive to sorrow and it is easier to train slave resignation. Shallow/Open - Openness to Experience (O) - Low score means slave is sensitive to discipline and shame, more easy and quick to train respect Facet traits DOM name - Description - Effects Weak/Wilful - The strength of the mind - resistant to pain/submission Delicate/Tough - The resistance to pain of the body - resistant to pain/submission and fear Frigid/Sensual - The sensitivity to pleasure, caress and tickling of the body - sensitive to shame/humiliation training Sadistic/Masochistic - This one is a personal choice - anger traning - stress Needy/Bold - How much the slave needs others approval and comfort - resistant to sorrow/resignation traning Stupid/Smart - How much slaves understand stuff and especially what you are doing to them - resistant to discipline/respect traning - disicpline ( like bead slave good slave dialoges) {End of copy from TrollAutokill} Important: All Facet Traits has weak/strong version above. weak means sensitive this type of effects. Pick a slave who has willful trait. This one very hard to make submit becuse will full. So more resitatnt to pain. the slave who willful not need high score in unlawful-honest factor. This means this slave honest. From modelling perspective: The slave traning in DOM case show how player action formed/changed/effected the original personality of the slave. Let say pick slave A and B bot recive same ammount pain punishment. but Slave A has Willful trait. This one get very littile subbmision traning compered Slave B who is not. Important to keep in mind: All traits i mean personality and facets effect slave behavior and reaction the effects that hit the slave. This include how quick or slow a slave get "cooled down", or get angry etc. A high anixios/calm scored slave probably faster recover from fear than low scored one( if to slave has no facet traits that effect this). --------------------------------------- !W15 - Reasons to punish in PAHE --------------------------------------- This chapters focus only PAHE i list here resons to punish slaves in pahe. This reasons carry ower to DOM. Generaly slaves can be punished not fallowing orders. a slave has option denial any orders from player. Slaves of corse can any time punished not need exist reason to do that. list of orders that salve can and will refuse fallow: from main dialoge menu: -fallow me ok salve submenu: -fight for me -you going to do this -i going fuck you -from now on you talk to me as slave do -stay here, dont move <-slave can try escape... -you do go somehting for me <-slave can try escape after ordered stay one place, or refuse do things from the start Slaves can misbehave and this can give oportunity to punish them: -refuse to fight in battle -not respectfull -trying to escape NOTE: Slave refuse fallow/exectue orders and get punished recive extra traning from this punishment. --------------------------------------- !W16 - Resons to punish in DOM -------------------------------------- Diary of Mine give tons of reason to punish slaves. This is extension of PAHE reasons to punish slaves. VERY IMPORTANT: DOM has tons of reasons to punish slave and this reasons get registered. ONE reason get registered all the time. IF slave give a NEW reason to get punished this owerite the old reason to get punished. example: Slave start runaway, get catched restrained. This give reason punish for trying escape. As talking to slave, slave act not respectfull this give a new reason to punish: not respectful. Not Respectful owerite last reason trying to escape. Orders to slave: main dialoge menu: -strip now! - this can be refused by slave come here submenu: [fallowing commands pose commands and slave dicide how long stay this pose, if leave to early can be punished] any and all comand here order slave to do posing any of them can be stoped or refused to do by slave this give reason to punish. if slave stop posing and player think slave stoped to son pose slave can be punished not posing. Behaviors that can be punished, this beahaviors generetaed by slaves as reaction to player actions most cases. -crying -talking as ordered no talk -if ordered not to talk -struggle aginst restrain as restrained -being angry -covering self as being nude NOTE: as DOM get more and more devluped maybe new futures and reasons added. -------------------------------------- !W17 - Punishemnts in PAHE -------------------------------------- Punishemnt used as a tool to shape slave and train. This chapter i focus only PAHE side of punishments, but all of this carry on to DOM and true here. Punsihemtns has multpile effects: if a slave punished for a reason that linked a slave skill the slave skill go incrased. For example a slave try escape you punish for it with pain. this way subbmision go incrase. All PAHE Punishemnt avible from " you need punished" menu. if slave not tied up 3 option avible here: -whiping/pain -sex -restraning Restraning slave makes them imoble and as long restrained canot try escape. restraining slaves give them pose traning. Sex first force slave to strip, if clothes on. then player can chose the sex option: oral, vaginal(if slave is female), anal if a slaver character is female, vaginal option avible all times. Sex punishemnt give them sex traning no mater why punished the slave with this. Whiping or pain punishemnt by any wepon/tol/spell that on hit effect on slave can be done. only the number of hit matters not the damage hit does. so a dagger probably better for this type of punishemnt than 2 handed warhammer becuse less strike can be done before slave die. Dagger do more strike same time as hammer so all in all more efficient. other good option using flame spell that do 8 point damage evry secund. this can cause script lag and other problems so i suggest cerful using it. -------------------------------------- !W18 - Punishemnts in DOM -------------------------------------- In DOM additional punishment exist as extention of PAHE punishments. SEX punishemnt work different that PAHE: -"you need punished" sub menu can lead consensual sex animation if slave not tied up and no wepon drawn before starting animation. -slave can seriusly orgasm and this melt don slave mind. if this happen make mark slave personality and make them more easy to train, more obidient. --to archiv this more easy first order slave tuch self then go for sex! Slaves consider humiliation: -Striping -wearing low grade clothing -restraning divices like colars -Being whiped as nude and restrained Other punishemnt method sobing the slave. this can be used some cases tendem with other methods. This more like mental punishemnt but effective. Universal method tie up slaves then do other punishemnt. Example: tie up, sobbing then whiping them. Important to note: in DOM system messages inform you what reason you punishing the slave, and what reason slave give you as reason to punish slave. Let say a slave refuse to strip this give a reason to punish: xyz slave refused striping. Other punishemnt like method the confusion: ordering slave strip, or geting away from the slave the clothing items and wepons. Then giving back that items, doing it multiple time confuse the slave, and eat some part of resistance from slave part. -------------------------------------- !W19 - Effect of punishemnts - PAHE only -------------------------------------- So you whiped hard that slave... then intrested what happened? What the effects? First slave mood probably go change sooner or later. Secund as writen below the punishemnt has incrase some of slave skill level. All punishemnt type incrase subbmision, and if punished a slave for a reson the skill that linked to the reason. sex punishemts incrase sex traning. Restraining slae incrase pose traning. If you punihs a slave long slave become affraid and more easy to control, this is tru even if slave in agry state. This is very important: as you punish a slave from a reason like: "not fighting" , this incrase combat traning of the slave, and same time incrase the skill that linked to punishment used to punish. Example: Punishing slave for not fighting with sex incrase the sex traning and combat traning. -------------------------------------- !W20 - Effect of punishemnts - DOM only -------------------------------------- Carry ower PAHE effects, with some "changes". More like expending existing effects. Humiliation degrade personality, incrase humilitaion traning. Catching runaway slave and punishing for it incrase resignation. In general punishing slave for thing incrase slave resignation and subbmision traning. If the player punishing a slave for something that warned, using listen to me slave dialoge menu options. The punishment carry extra wight. Side effect of this slave get more trained by this punishment. A slave can only warned aginst one reason to not to do or get extra punished. This is a mini game where palyer need predict what reason slave need next time get punished. Of corse, smart player warn slave aginst things that going to happen next, caused by player activity. Other "type" of punishemnt to confuse slave but not considered as punishment or reason to punishemnt. more on that the DOM mind games chapter. -------------------------------------- !W21 - Slave moods -PAHE only -------------------------------------- Slaves in PAHE has 3 mood: Normal, Affraid and rebelius. Affraid slave do what you order, less likely resist your orders or try escape to affraid to do that. Normal is no bonus to resist, no bonus to fallow commands. Rebelius slaves most times ressit fallow commands, a rebelius slave if restrained ower time coul down. Optionaly if get pain punished long enught get anger traning and less likley get angry agin. -------------------------------------- !W22 - Slave moods -DOM only -------------------------------------- Slave mods like current mental state of the slave. this changed greatly by punishemnt and living conditions AKA player actions :) . the slave mod displayed before slave name in system messages ( left top corner of window) Best condition if slave in love or in loyal. this too means slave stockholm sindromed and considered well/perfectly trained. This slaves cause no truble and do what told. important difference beatwen loyal and in love: in love get fucked by player character loyal not. Shocked slave get punished hard and in shocked state, this state ideal to train slave things punihsemnt in this state more effective. be cereful bringing slave multiple time to shocked state or owerdo traning in shocked state leads broken state. If a slave in love or loyal state can be get shocked. This is not good and best avoid in this case. Reason: shocked slave react diferently the things. To put out shocked state simpli use "come here slave"-> " good slave" dialoge to hug them and remove shocked state. this one only work if no other reason to prise the slave, so amybe need to be done multiple time. List of slave moods and effects to slave traning and behavior: {Fallowing part of writing from DOM Author: TrollAutokill, thank you for clerification } Broken this means this victim i mean slave mentaly broken falling apart. slave probably cring, totaly wasted. This good for traning propuses becuse this stage more effective most traning. Neutral state mostly happens for slaves with low training and if they are not punished. Neutral mood slaves are unresponsive to sex training Afraid also means slave will obey even if not trained, increases sensitivity to vaginal sex Ashamed happens if slave is naked, stripped or forced to touch self, increase sensitivity to all kind of sex (more than sad/afraid/angry) Angry increases sensitivity to anal sex Sad increases sensitivity to oral sex Shocked increases sensitivity to sex (less than sad/afraid/angry). Each time a slave is shocked increases their chance to be broken. Shocked slave will recover after some time has passed and become afraid//sad/neutral or can be broken if punished too much. Broken slave will mostly follow your orders and not try to run away. Broken slaves do not get afraid/angry/ashamed/sad. They can be shocked if punished too much. Loyal slaves happens for high training levels. It is the equivalent of broken but the slave mind is now twisted and they believe you are their friend. They can be shocked if punished too much. In love only happens for high trained slaves if you had sex with them at least once. Their mind is twisted to the point they are in love with you. They can be shocked if punished too much. There are no "rebellious" mood, it is used as a synonym for angry in some dialogue. {End of copy from TrollAutokill} --------------------------------------- !W23 - Slave skill set --------------------------------------- This chapter contains infroamtion about slaves skill set. I not split this one specific to PAHE and DOM becuse DOM do minimal changes to original PAHE skills usage. Expect reducing subbmision importance a bit. {Fallowing section fact checked and clerified by DOM mod Autohor TrollAutokill} Submission - in pahe this is the most important skill! This shows the slave how hard subbmited to owener will. Above 40 slave can be forced to talk the players as slave need to do this opern respect traning options! In PAHE if this score above 60 slave stop escape (by default) see resignation below for PAHE+DOM. In PAHE+DOM This skill shows how sexually subbmisive the slave the owener will and it is used for all sexually related orders. Can be trained by giving order slaves, punishing them using pain based punishemnts. High submission means the NPC his subjugated by your sexual power. this skill primarily linked unlawful/honest attribute as honest characters will be more sensitive to the master unfair punishments. Weak/Wilful seen in what kind of slave dialoge menu pop-up. here weak means he weak against punishment. Fear Traning - In PAHE slaves that scared from master takes order from master more easyer. Need less punishment or traning. in PAHE+DOM in a slave with high fear traning more scared form master and will obey more easily (posing, waiting, cleaning will be longer), and more brawe in fight fear can be trained forcing slave to fight for the player, or just punishing slave for other things ower time pain punishemnt get trained the slave for fear This skill linked to Anxious/Calm, anxious characters are more sensitive to fear. Delicate/Tough seen in what kind of slave dialoge menu pop-up. Delicate means weak aginst fear traning effects. Anger traning - IN PAHE function this as slave get angry at you for your action and refuse to do things becuse is this in PAHE+DOM this skill work somwhat similar, not important skill. High anger training gives slave more chance to fall in love or be loyal. to train anger traning first need get slave angry at you then punish for it. to make angry simple restrain them, then punish with pain or do other punishemnt. after you get message xy slave get angry pain punishemnt work to reduce anger. this skill linked to Mean/Kind Sadistic/Masochistic seen in what kind of slave dialoge menu pop-up. Humiliation - in PAHE this skill not exist. In PAHE+DOM: this skill gowern how slave react shaming effects. like ordering slave to strip being nude, wearing humilating divices. in low traning slave probably refuse strip order. With high humilation traning slave no problem get naked in front of hundred peapole. High humiliation training gives more chance for slave to be aroused when ordered to touch self. to train this force slave to strip, punish if not get striped, give them low quality cothing, humiliating divices. this skill linked to Shy/Lively Frigid/Sensual seen in what kind of slave dialoge menu pop-up. a frigid slave not react well sexual traning. Resignation - in PAHE this skill not exist. In PAHE+DoM if this score above 60 slave stop escape (by default). So this is very important skill! High resignation training means the NPC thinks he/she is a slave now. to tran this restrain slave, give them hell! if slave try escape catch them and punish until slave get shocked(my experience most cases flame spell works wonders). this skill linked to Sad/Happy Needy/Bold seen in what kind of slave dialoge menu pop-up. here Needy means easy to train resignation {End of clerified section by TrollAutokill} respect traning - in pahe this effect how respectful a slave for the player. in DOM same as pahe to train this first need submision at least 40, then go "ok slave"->"from now on you talk to me as slave you understand?" dialoge menu and force slave to accept this. after this evry time slave talk to the player not like a fallower do can be punished or can be used new dialoge menu "i trought i told you addres me properly" this skill linked to Victim/Free Stupid/Smart seen in what kind of slave dialoge menu pop-up. this effect easy or hard confuse the slave Pose traning - i PAHE effect how pose slave as restrained or not in DOM this do the same, in HSH this effect slave can be dance or do other posing to train this slave need to be restained long period of time or forced to pose, like tuch yourself and similar orders can be chosen form: "come here slave" this skill no linked atributes or other facets Sex traning - In PAHE effect waht save can become whore if you use TDF aggresive prostitution and well, how well act slave as fuck toy in DOM work similary with hihg sex traning slave not refuse sex with player this can be trained well, forcing sex to the slave. strongly suggested make them highly arused, to do this order them "come here slave" -> "tuch yourself" this force slave masturbate and thisway incrase arusal. alternative traning method ordering slave work as whore ("work that body" or "your body going make money to us" dialoge), as doing sex acts the slave sex traning incrased sex traning most effective if done from "ok slave"->"i going fuck you" sex can be started from punishment menu by the way but that considered more as punishemnt IMPORTANT: In DOM Sex action counted different more specific! Oral, Vaginal, Anal sex traning counted separate. This statistic can be found in: "let's have sirus chat" ->"What how are feeling exactly slave?" this option open a pop-up menu similar than slave info spell but this one contain this statistics too! Combat Traning - In PAHE this effect how well fight the slave and how mutch willing to participate in fight in DOM best of my knowlage this skill has similar role to train this first need force slave to participate in fight so go: "ok slave"->"from now on you going to fight for me" after that skill incrase come if slave and player in same cell and fight broke out. in this case slave fight or not fight if fight vell can be prised using "come here slave"->"good slave" dialoge menu if not fight, well this case new dialoge option show up about slave not fighting and using this can be punished. This kill linked to fear traning and this way to Anxious/Calm facets oral,vaginal,Anal traning - This exist only DOM I not observed exactly how works or how effects slaves. my theory this effect how well trained with sex this part of action type the slave. --------------------------------------- !W24 - Slave dialoge menu - PAHE only --------------------------------------- This section is detailied discription the slaves dialoge menu, PAHE version. DOM extand this a bit. This written to help to understand menaning and functions of dialoge options. IMPORTANT:This dialoge menu write down only contain PAHE dialoge options, other mods adds different dialoge options to slaves! As one start talk slave can see the fallowing dialoge options i call it main dialoge menu: ====================================== "you need punished" - open up punishemnt menu with fallowing options: --"you need whiped" - chosing this you chose do pain punishemnt dialoge menu closes and player character automaticly get ready the whip if exist in inventory --"strip now" or "you get tied and canot resist, remove that clothes"(sorted version) or "all tied up, naked let have fun" -> leads sex 3 variant for 3 case: not tied up, tied up and have clothing on, nude and tied up. after chosing this option new menu appear where you can pick how whant punish the slave. If slave high subbmision maybe not resist and not rape but consensual sex scane playing. important to note: if your wepon/spell ready in PAHE rape SL animation play. If slave Tied up rape scane play. --"restrain" this option open up a submenu 3 option maximum. this menu used to tie up a slave with restrain of your chose. "these ropes keep you in place" option always avible, but not the best solution within minutes slaves usualy escape from ropes. if you have lether strips or even better leather cuffs in inventory "you know you look real good in leather" option become avible. LEather restrain hold more vell the slave in place, but over time slave can escape from leather restrain to. if you have iron cuff in inventory this option become avible: "only hardest for you" Iron cuffs permanently restrain slave no way to escape from this. ( this can be made any forge, need 4 iron ingot for each one) "you going wear this" - open slave inventory if you put any wepon or amor item to slave inventory slave going to wear this. no mather it is better or worse that in use. this option very usefull to force slave strip, if you remove all armor/clothing item from slave inventory. This option useful to force slave clollars like LEash magic collar that stops slave from escaping "Not in the mood to fight?" <-- this avible if slave ordered to fight and dont fightat all or not start fight soon as fight started. chosing this option in dialoge menu open up a new sub dialoge menu tree. Here player can chose only warn the slave to fight or open up same menu as chosing "you need punishmed" dialoge menu. Doing this and using pain punishemnt give slave comnat traning. "I tought I told you, addres me properly" <-- this become avible after slave told talk you with respect AND slave talk not respectful to you. punishing for this reason give respect traning. "fallow me slave" <-- if slave in sandbox or waiting mode this option pop up. ordering slave to fallow your lead. slaves has option to refuse this command. "i going make sure you stay here(restrain slave)" <-this menu only avible if slave NOT restrained, open up the restrain slave menu options ( se below punishemnt submenus) "strip!" -only avible if slave has clothing on, this option order slave to take off the clothes "Put your clothes back on!" - negated version of strip command, if slave nude and clothing within slave inventory this command force them put back clothing. ====================================== "ok slave..." -this open up a sub menu ---"from now you talke me as slave do"<-- special dialoge option only avible after slave has 40 or more subbmision traning. Chosing this slave can be refuse act as ordered. This case punishment menu pop up and slave can be punished, for not respectful. This option start respect traning. If slave accept the order this option change to this: "You can addres me hovewer you like." chosing this option stop slave to forced respectfull and this way you canot train more the slave to respect. if respect traning started some times slaves addres player with wrong way in this case can be punished for not respectfull, or can be chosen say: make sure re member. ---"from now on you fight for me" <--this option always avible if not active. chosing this activate combat traning. as this active slave participate in combat in theory . In reality low combat traning slaves most cases do nothing, after some motivation (pain punishemnt...) slaves start fight as expected. if slave not fight as expected, player can tell the slave: if slave accpeted to fight for you any time you can order the slave to: "Stop fighting now, just hang back from combat!" ---"Wait around here (sandbox)" <-- this orders slave stay around where at the moment and start use places like alchemy station, furniture etc ---"carry this for me slave" <-- same as fallower "lets trade something with you" command, big diference in therory slave not allowed wear anything that given to slave this way. ---"You are going to do something for me" <-- this simalr as fallower command "i need you to do something" slave can ordered move, attack open locks pick up items etc. ---"Stay here dont move!" <-- similar looking to the wait here sandbox, big difference, this orders slave stay exectly on the spot and dont sandbox. Ower time slaves tend to start sandboxing. worst case trying to escape if not trained enught. ---"Im going fuck you!"<-- as it seas slave can refuse or accept what going to happen. in case of refusal aggresive animation play, or whiping can be chosen insted sex. if slave accept do the sex, consensual animation play unless player has wepon/magic drawn. --you realised <-- slave no more considered slave to you. slave get free man. --------------------------------------- !W25 - Slave dialoge menu - DOM only --------------------------------------- This chaptaer contains dialoge options that DOM added the PAHE slaves dialoge menu. all other PAHE dialoge option work as usual. DOM add 3 new submenu to main dialoge tree, and change some dialoge option inner working: ===Main menu changes=== -"strip now" - slave can refuse to strip, and give reason to punishment "you need punished" submenu changes: ---"strip now"-sex option initiate consensual sex animation. remember if slave tied up rape animation play. ===DOM Submenus added=== "Lets have sirus chat" dialoge menu options This dialoge menu option used to get information about slave mental state, and personality. This places useful if you wish to know what is the weaknes of the slave you talking to. ---"What kind of slave you are?" - the answer is a pop up menu that contains facet traits and personality traits. plus information about slave frendship status. This one relay on personality trait statistics and facet traits. ---"how are you feeling slave?" - this give up a poup menu that tells how slave feeling toward you, how see the word. this one based on slave traning level and current mental state. this one can be used to query who is slave frend. ---"how you enjoy slave life?" - this one uniqe, give near same as "how are you feeling slave?" big difference this one tell you statisticcs about: how many times get sex with slave, hoe mnay tiems prised/shobed, how clsoe the slave to break down mentaly(in numbers). this menu tells you what reason slave can be prised and sobbed if any reason registered. ---"what king of slave you exactly?" - this one show you statistic information about slave personality traits ---"how are you exactly feeling slave?" - this is very special pop up, similar to slave info spell big difference this one tells how well trained the slave in oral, vaginal, annal sex. ================================ "Lisen to me slave" dialoge menu This dialoge tree desginated to verbaly punish/threat the slave. Warning submenus: This options used to warn slaves do not do things or get extra punishment. If warning given slave try avoid make mistake and give reason for extra punishment. If slave get punished as warned, slave traning get bonus for that traning. Only one warning activa at the time, giving other warning owerite last warning. ---"You are slave now, lisen to me..." --opens up first warning brunch of submenu. -------"Dont even try runaway or else... <- warn slave dont try runaway, if try and get pnished, this warning give extra wight of the punishemnt. -------"Stop whining or i give something worse to cry about!" <- warn slave aginst crying during punishment if slave cry and get punished for that, punishemnt ectra effective. -------"You better learn fast to pose, or you soon know what pain means!" <- wanr slave to pose well or get pain punished. -------"Feel free to strugle, it makes me want you punish even harder! <-if slave restrained/tied up and soem times strugle. this warn aginst this. ---"You are slave now, on another matter..." --opens up secund warning brunch of submenu. -------"Control your rage, or i will teach you anger menegment in the hard way! <- act aginst slave mod get rebelius. -------"Respect is essential. Forget it and whip remind you! <- This one useful slaves tht getting respect trained. IMPORTANT: This waning work only if slave told to respectful toward player! ------"Your body is my property! Remember that or I will rape youtill you learn! <- warning aginst resist sex. this activated only if you go "ok slave menu->i going to fuck you" option NOTE: this one effective only if slave get raped after refuse of sex with player! ------"Stop trying to block whip, it just make me hit harder and longer! <- slaves if not tied up some times try resist whiping. this wanr aginst this. NOTE: if you whip slaves only tied up or doing some posing, not worht give this warning. ---"You are slave now, one more thing..." --opens up third and final warning brunch of submenu. ------"No more begging to stop.I dicide when punishment is ower!" <- slaves tend to ask stop the punishment as whiping them this warn them to not do that. ------"If you are scared of combat, i guarantee you will fear my warth even more!" <- Warn slave aginst not fighting IMPORTANT: This one work only if slave ordered to fight for player! ( ok slave menu->from now on you fight for me) ------"I want a view on my property, stop covering yourself!" <- slaves in nude state tend to cover self, this warn aginst this. Trained slaves not cover self in midd humiliation traning. ------"Try harder when you masturbate or i rape you dry!" <- this waring aginst stoping/refusing "tuch your self" pose from "come here slave" menu. Important: this one work only if: 1-sklave ordered masturbate and stop it or refuse to start. 2-after that hapened you go: "you need punished->sex option(strip now/i going fuck you)" ---"Do what i say or..." -- opens up a sub menu where you can chose give promise to slave: if slave being good you give them gold, freedom, or not punishing that hard... or promis pain if slave not beahave. Its up to you keep the promise or not. ---"you are good slave" -- primary usage this prise to slave is slave do something good. after raping him can be prised how good with sex. so this option help break slave mentaly, dont under estimate this one. especialy effective highly trained slaves that wish to act way that makes master heapy... Special usage if a slave breaked prising them for nothing cancel the break effect. ---"you are bead slave" -- you tell a salve how bead are and how shitti are ect... very useful. Tell a slave you are bead slave becuse tryed to escape, or not geting clothes off. soem slaves very sensitive this more, than pain punishment. intrestng to note : some highly trained slave after told bead slave start cry or shackng/panicking. --"From now on you will only open your mouth when i tell you! Understand?" --this one used to minimaze chater from slave and give reason to punish if slave fail to keep own mouth shout. if this command active replaced in dialogem enu fallowing command: "You can talk freely now" -- this one allow slaves to talk, and remove option to punish slave if slave tlak witout asked. ================================ "Come here slave" dialoge menu option This one contain option to shame, humiliate, the slave. act as secundary punishment menu. useful for slave preparation for sex traning. IMPORTANT NOTE about poseing: -posing slave by own will can chose stop posing at any time. -punishing slave becuse stop posing give pose traning to slave, forcing slave to pose give them pose traning. -more slave do posing more get trained for posing -prising slave for posing good give positive feed back and this way pose traning can be incrased. -if slave leave any time posing whitout command from player slave can be punished not posing. -posing side effect slave ned stay one place so after posing started slave need to ordered fallow player. --"Let see how mutch you worth" -- this one put slave in pose. and same way tell you the expected sell price of the slave. mostly half of them can be expected. this play a animation and humiliating slave same time. can be used as punishment or for make slave feel ashamed. this one useful for sex traning preparation. --"time for body inspection" -- this one a poser command, slave get body searched. humilating of corse. --"tuch yourself" -- poser command, slave forced to play masturbating animation. if slave keep tuching slef long slave get brushed red telling owener slave arusal is high. slaves can refuse to do this order! --"you need losen up, drink that alchol i giave you!" -- forces slave drink alcohol, if alcohol present in slave inventory. Alcohol efefct explaned the spearate chapter: "Alcohol effects on slaves" --"Drink poition i give you" -- this used to activate DOM poitions. this one force slave to drink one of them if in slave inventory. --"Stop whatever you duing" -- cancel all slave poser animation, slave switch waiting pose. ower time slave can chose leave this pose and switch sandbox mode. this action of slave can be punished. this option useful to force slave stop play other poser animations. --------------------------------------- !W26 - About Slaver tools, usage and effects - PAHE+DOM --------------------------------------- This chapter i go trought all tools used in slavery. This tools come from PAHE, i put DOM specifick items separate chapter. I write down all the PAHE and PAHE+DOM diferences here to. Whip-weapon need to create: Blacshmit forge or similar site, Silver ingot, Fire wood,3 leather strip Effects in PAHE: used in pain punishemnt, this wepon has only do 1 damage. this leads slave not going to die quickly if used this to punish them. default wepon to pick up to deal pain punishemnt. very quick to strike like a dagger, makes posibble hit slave quick. this important becuse pain punishemnt count strikes not damage done. if not avible a dagger can be replace this useful tool. Effect in PAHE+DOM: same as PAHE rope-armor need to create: nothing Effects in PAHE:2 fold , one part restrains salve movment to zero, give pose traning as slave restrained. useful to rpeverent slave any movment even escape. by the way salves quickly get free from this bindings. of corse this makes slaves helpless and one can take advantage of this maybe... ( and maybe some one likes see nude slaves bind to helpless... ) Effect in PAHE+DOM: same as PAHE, plus restrained slaves more effected by punishments... ZBF Cuffs leather Bind-armor Tamming rack, 4 Leather strips Effects in PAHE: same as robe, but take slaves lot longer to get free from this binding. Effect in PAHE+DOM: same as PAHE+ better traning for punishment iron cuffs-Armor-balck and brown variant can be chosen Blacshmit forge or similar site, 4 iron ingot Effects in PAHE:same as robe, but take slaves canot esscape from this binding. Effect in PAHE+DOM: same as PAHE+ better traning for punishment Iron Slave collar-jewelry need to create: Blacshmit forge or similar site, 2 iron ingot Effects in PAHE: pure cosmetick best of our knowlage Effect in PAHE+DOM: help break slaves mind. Slave Collar-jewelry need to create: Blacshmit forge or similar site, common soul gem, steel ingot, leather Effects in PAHE: Unknown, probably pure cosmetick Effect in PAHE+DOM: help break slaves mind, if posses other effect unknown to me time of writing Leash collar-jewelry need to create: Blacshmit forge or similar site, common soul gem, glow dust, iron slave collar Effects in PAHE: special collar! first slaves who wearing it canot try escape from slave master! Secund special effect linked to "leash to spell". with leas to spell slaves can be leashed a point of space. this point marked a red ball. casting agin this spell realise the leash. Effect in PAHE+DOM: similar to PAHE, and help break slave mind --------------------------------------- !W27 - DOM Spells and poitions --------------------------------------- DOM Spells and location where can be found: Srink persona spell book found Fort Graymore, top level book store waht does: reduce personality traits of the slave Boost persona spell book found Fort Graymore, base flore where old woman live/sleep, near this 2 special poitions to! what does: incrase personality traits of the slave Dreals cottage: Restore persona spell book found on beawitch alchemy bench, with lot of funy potion this spell restore original persona of the slave DOM potions: This special poitions only can made in Beawatch brench one can be found Drealas cottage ( this cottage shouth of Morthal, other side of the first hill, nort-north-west from Fort Greymore ) this poition only effect the slaves to use this do the fallowing: 1-give the slave cary them 2-go dialoge menu->"come here slave"->"drink that poition i gived you" this force to slave drink one of this special poition in slave inventory Poition of Lust makes slave more repsonsive to sex -> faster sex traning, more effect on sex based punishments recipe: nord mead, blue butterfly wing, blue montain flower Poition of Mind break reduces will power of effected slave -> more easy to make them obey orders, more traning can be done recipe: Skooma, Gabboge, giant lichen Poition of Leash makes slave responsive to pain-> pain based punishemnt and submission traning more efective for few secunds recipt: ale, red apple, red montain flower Poition of Love who drinks it fall love with the player as long as like it the person who drinked it recipt: purple montain flower, spiced vine, honey --------------------------------------- !W28 - Alcohol effects on slaves - DOM Only --------------------------------------- Dialoge menu: Come here slave->drink that bottle i give you! Give option to force slave drink bottle of vine in the slave inventory. This make slave drunk/tipsy. About how this works exactly here is the explanation: Fallowing section come from Autorh of DOM TrollAutoKill: ----------Quted section starts---------- How it works: 1) only slaves with high will and high toughness will be able to swallow a full bottle of wine when ordered. Others will manage half or even just 1dl. It depends on the message: - "coughs while trying to swallow" -> 1dl max - "barely manages to swallow" -> 2 dl max - "struggles to drink" -> 5dl max - "drinks the full bottle" -> all of it even if more than 5dl You need 2 glasses to get a tipsy female, 3 for a tipsy male. Twice more to get them drunk. One glass is 2.5 dl of ale, 2 dl of mead, 1.2 dl of Wine, ... 2) It takes 1h for all the alcohol to get in the blood. So the first hour the drinker will get more and more drunk, until a maximum after 1h. 3) Blood alcohol goes down over 4hours. So the drinker will be sober 4 hours after the last bottle hits the blood. Roughly 5 hours after drinking the last bottle. 4) It's tempting to drink more when you don't feel drunk yet, but there is a risk for the drinker to get smashed (animation should make the drinker fall on their knees) 5) Even more alcohol and the drinker will fall on the ground. 6) Coma and death are not implemented. Just a text message. You killing a drunk slave with one hit should not be related to drunkness, or? 7) The more drunk the less will, the more stupid and the more lively. Makes the slave more receptive to pain and other punishments. Just ask them what kind of slave they are, it should change. ----------Quted section end---------- Other added bonus drunken slaves canot move straight foward, slave movment show how bead the drinking situation on the slave. --------------------------------------- !W28 - Confusing slaves and effects in DOM --------------------------------------- Confusing slaves has similar effect as punishemnts make slave more resingeted and subbmisive. To confuse save, make them wear restrainng device, colar, or low quality clothing like comon clothes. Then remove it, give them weapon then remove it. This confuse totaly slaves, and humiliate them if clothing removed.This work best stupid slaves. some cases more effective than pain or sex punishment, becuse slave resistant other methods or sensitive this aproach. So agin: remove restraning divice, or give back wepon, or after forcing them remove clothes give good high quality clothes. --------------------------------------- !W29 - Slave frendship effects - DOM only --------------------------------------- Slaves can and will make friendships based on slaves personality. Some slaves never get friend each other. New Frendships made as slaves with player change cell. Friendship a thing that wise to watch. Friendships of a slave effected many ways: -if a salve who has 3 frends try to escape all of the friends probably try runaway with them. -if you punish one salve with same cell his friends firends get effected mentaly. this can change slave mood. -Killing a friend of slave all other slave get angry. -Letting free a slave all his frends gain more trust to the master. -Shobing/prising effects frends to! This is why whise after capture grup of new slave move all of them other cell. So thsi way all make new frends, then exploit frendship! Punish one slave and all his/her frends effected and give you reason to punish them to! IMPORTANT: Slave Frendship only work as intended if friends present same cell! --------------------------------------- !W30 - DOM Other futures --------------------------------------- Slaves explain emotions with faces, crying ect. You can sak slaves about how feel. Slaves give commentary about own mental state, feeling current events. Followers time to time use slaves as sex toys to relax if follower get arused. If a slave highly arused going to masturbate. Highly arused slaves brush red. --------------------------------------- !W31 - How to train a slave? Traning pratices for new slavers! - PAHE + DOM --------------------------------------- Okay so this chapter written players that not mutch experience how to handle slaves. i write here a littile mini guide that apply both PAHE and DOM. This contain most simple and basic steps. I expect you captured a brand new slave recently, and write down here what to do after capture! 1. tie slave up! use dialoge "i going make sure you stay here" --this help us preverent slave escape attempts for a time, slaves always try escape if not trained well! 2. start give commands to slave, so slave can say no, and if say no you punish them hard. example: order slave "you now fight for me!" other good command: "you are going to do something for me!" best if this commands given as slave not affraid/scared. if dom installed ordering slave strip most time enught. Slaves hate in dom Strip if not trained. 3. slave refuse fallow command punish them! or not give any command just punish them using a whip, one handed wepon or flame spell. i suggest quick save before appaly any damage based punishment maybe you kill the slave! 4. use Slave info spell to check slave subbmision status if it reach 40 go ok slave menu and order them tlak you as slave do! this open another punishemnt reason! this is the very basic concept order slave do things, slave say no. punish them for it! in DOM lot more reason to punish, and lot more complex evrithing. :) in DOM slaves resitant some type of punishemnt and sensitive other type of punishemnt this change slave by slave... so maybe worth check slave mentality asking them about. in dom i suggest us prise/scobing dialoge options to comment slave actions this help a lot in slave traning. some times wise to wayt the slave cool down and change mod, if a slave rebelius other hand i suggest punish them hard no need reason. Anger traning given this way. --------------------------------------- !W32 -The "Mister Slaver" talk (mini novell-is thing) ( Special Guide to slaver charater) --------------------------------------- In solitude a littile palace like bulding doors open and an old Nord face show up. -Well come and take seat Dragonborn! I happy you accepted my invitation...*khhm* as you see im old... Come take a sit by fire.-The old man invite the dragonborn inside give a nice chair to sit near the fireplace. -So i invited here becuse i heard you have some... let say it slaver busniss in mind. *Khm* LEt say if you wish do REAL bussnies come and hear my advice. As Experineced bussnies man of my own i wish give you my littile story how i grown my bussnies so big i can build this littile palace. Evrything here build for me, based on slaves. -No no need for exuses! I know how it starts, skipp the standard part and cut the chase im old... So, getting big on money by slavery is easy if you know how to do it and... of corse you have right contacts. Need some planing of corse and bit of invesment in the start but latter the gold is going to shower! Here some rules: as slaver you not do work, slaves do work for YOU! You are the one WHO gives the slaves the work. Thats the important part. Another rule, need things keep organized, as slaver operation grow so big as my ower time no organization lead caos and lots of problem, and finaly loss of profit! Here is the important part: THE Basics: We have lot of bandits and other criminal out there... its totaly understandble: join legion or stormcloacks or frostworn is not good step. Fight for others cause and make them rich or die trying not okay. Bandits at least works for own, not for others. We have lots of man in my time who needed slaves. LARGE market for slaves! Even You cAn Get Another Slave (reference to YAGAS mod, Yet you get another slave) at my time. I just see the need for slaves and way to get them cheap. Only big problem in my time: Buyers tend to play well for trained slaves, not fresh new ones. No one like new untrained slaves... I know i can bring my slaves my Home, my Sweat Home (HSH mod reference: Home, Sweat Home) but honestly this one not solve my issues allone! So i forced my slaves to train other slaves. First look this is easy but not not mutch... to work all well as you enslave evrything that moves and put your sweat home few trainer canot keep up the rain of slaves. Keep it perspective: in avarage evry 2 day at least i managed capture 10 new slaves, criminals mostly no one care if few criminal go missing. One slave traning time on avarage 2 weeak, or someting similar so as 1 trainer of my train one slave i get 70 new slave. to keep up this flow i need 70 trainers at least. At this point we talking about 140 slaves! In one home. This is crazy sometimes ower coved and finding a specific slave is nightmare! This is why i keep evrything organized this way: new slaves need full naked 0 clothing. Trainer slaves need wear armor and a slave collar. So on sight i know witch one is trainer witch one is not, no matter whats going on. Over time very good trainers get heavy armor not light armor so more easy to evaluate who is who. Overtime i found out this is not enught... ohhh not. Some slaves more easy to train than oders... so i chose train personaly ones that very easy to train. Just restrain them then hit them hard with your whip! Soon you see if a slave shit them self is a good one worthi of traning, if nothing happen... sell it or kill it or let others train it. Okay so select slaves that easy to train train them but not to hard, most trainer slaves enught to obidient and not need fully skilled. Just to be enguht for most basic traning. In other hand some slaves very special gifted ability to train well quick or lead others. this slaves need seaprated from other and renamed as trainers. This ones need trained well. Latter this special slaves train other slaves of corse after others done the basic traning. Oh i forget... why train fully a slave if after half traning sell good? Only do full traning if market is closing and only few slave can be sold. After while i get lot of money i brught mroe and more hauses to train slaves. Organized slaves as fallow: one elite traning hause to train the best slaves. i put slaves only here after slave done the basic traning other hauses. After few month i sold on the end all the slaves i get all the money in the word i needed to end my life. This money i builded this hause. and i live from this money... so yes very profitible bussnies. So dragonborn after using my advice can you give me some fair sharae your earnings? Just one septim after evry 1 000 you earned.-The dragonborn face change soemting very dark... soemthing very grim move ower this face... the old mand realize he made a mistake! -FUS DO ROH!! - hear the old mand as dragonborn screamed the magic words. Next moment he found self on the flor dragonborn on him. The old man in total shock as realied dragonborn not going to kill him... he putting some red glowing rusty steal collar on them.... -You are slave now, now fallow me! -The old slaver face go darker then nice this words... his words! he taked this way many many times hundred of slaves.... The End. Used mods: PAHE YAGAS HSH DOM Populated Skyrim Hell Edition SE (for moore npc and mroe chalanging combat stiutation, now worth bring salves with you for combat) --------------------------------------- !W33 - About a slaver character, advices for slave hunter character --------------------------------------- A slave hunter goal capture slaves ALIVE. Plus need to able train slaves, propably need to create slaver items. I suggest use one handed weapon becuse this weapon type do lowest damage of all, lowest probablyti to kill by accident new victims adn avible from the start. Other very good method for capturing using paralyzis, spell or poision. Paralise not ask question just stun the target or not stun. Illusion is paralyze alternative but this one ask questions, many of them. not unded? not deadra? within level cap? plus victims tend to run away as need to be fear effected to make them easy to capture. Twohanded wepons and archery beased wepons do to big damage. Destruction based spells mostly do AOE damage, low damage is okay for this poruse problem is the AOE damage, our own slaves can be damaged by accident and maybe killed. I suggest use heavy armor if not planning put lot of point into smithing. If lot of point spent smihting perk tree go for light armor! Conjuration very usefull. Summoned atronacs very helpful aginst large number of enemys as distraction. Bound wepons, especialy bound swords do great especialy low levels. At lvl 3 one can use deadric sword that wight nothing. Dual wielding work well aginst some enemys like dragons some cases. Archery strongly suggested in use as backup solution aginst dragons, or crazy hard combat situations to support summoned creatures from affar. Siheld is very useful some cases to capture slaves with low hp, damage them but not kill instant, or use siheld charge to make enemys fall to grund. This is just colection of advices what can work and why. I suggest try out things on your own to see what works best for you! Any normal character can work as salver, but some like sneak archer or twohanded heavy armor user may find hard capture some slaves alive, becuse the raw killing power. I suggest strongly use slaver cahracter that can survivev many direct hits becuse evry victim need aproched to start capture proces and make them slave. Doing this middle of 20 man fight can be hard, this is why i suggest use heavy armor. This heavy armor combined with alternation and one handed+siheld alone can survive aginst most enemys long. If this one get suported by summoned creatures, fallowers and slaves probably never go down (or very rare cases). --------------------------------------- !W34 - Testing PAHE+DOM, sending bug report, helping devlopment --------------------------------------- below very short discriptions about mods i suggest use with PAHE TDF Aggresive Prositutuion: allow player to prositute self and allow make slaves prositutes this way makeing money. HSH(Home Sweat Hom) give option to create slave camp or slave hause last one is bascly any interior where you not traspassing. this hauses or camp can be used store, train, torture slaves. YAGAS(Yet You Get Another Slave) selling slaves evry where in skyrim, making palyer home brothel Prettier Bandits -give lots of lots new female faces and budies into bandit camps Defeat - built in compatiblity with PAHE. Allow player to capture victims using sneak based attacks. just sneak behind the victim, use defeat action key (default g if i remeber correctly) then tie up the victim, after that you can start dialoge to add captured victim to pahe slaves. Fallowing mods add NEW npcs to leveled lists, to allow this mods work together you need make bashed patch. to do that you going to need "Wrye Bash" program to create bashed patch. To this is a littile bit of work but worth it! This wy more than 300 new npc added the to skyrim. new looking npcs, and lot lot more things to capture! (all of them found in nexus mods) 1-Full Random NPC Pack Vanilla 2-DIVERSE SKYRIM SSE 3-Populated Skyrim Hell Edition -WARNING this one add tons of new enemys to bandit camps and many many new npc to roads. Use this if you want a good reason to use a salve army or two... at least 6 fallower strongly recommended. 4-botox for syrim OBIS - Organized Bandits -adds lot of bandits, bandit factions. many many more new npc to capture! do not use with populated skyrim hell edtion! --------------------------------------- !W35 - Testing PAHE+DOM, sending bug report, helping devlopment --------------------------------------- Testing and giving feed back, bug reorts important for many reasons. reason 1: First mod creators get know you like what creator created. This one very important, its give creators fuel to move on and continue the creation. Non understand what is means until one experinced self ( like me, i created thisw guide and recived liks 10+ downloads and many say heapy using this one!). This give me power to carry on the writing and do it more. at the moment i typing this this guide more than 1 100 lines, so not a sort one. reason 2: Your beloved mod get bug fixes/quality of life update/new futures Tons of mod behavior, function even mods rised from users suggestions. same hold true for mod bug fixings. reason 3: you get feeling you done soemthing good for community! (this one alone big reson to give reactions) how to do it: A - Asking new futures, saying ty for mod: same way: go suport tread for the mod and say very kind way ( ihope i use right words here) B - Reporting bug you found: First need check 2 things: this one is a realy bug? can be reproduced? Secund: this bug known one or new one? real bug i mean: not something that intended inner working of the mod. reproduction of the bug: this one very important know how to reproduce and you can do it. this important for mod creator: to reproduce them self to see what where went wrong this one is very great help! so one who report bug pls put as clear as possible and accurate as possible what when how done. best if you send list of mods in use, maybe your load order too. many times happen anomalys come from other mods effecting the mod in test. to avoid this i mostly run my tests separate mod organizer 2 instace whit installed mod and mod requierments only to see the mod alone work as inteded. About known bugs: sadly many mods contian bugs that no way to fix, becuse skyrim game engine or mod creator no resoruces how to fix it, or know how to fix it but not yet done. most of this bug writen down mod page i suggest check this out first. no problem if one report known bug but its better not. B-1-reporting a new bug: i suggest give out fallowing information: in PAHE and DOM case most of us espect players use SE not Oldrim/LE if you play not SE i suggest write it down this helps avoid confusion. Secund important thing clerifie new game, or old game you experience the anomaly or upgrade from earlyer version of PAHE/PAHE+DOM Final important thing i suggest clerifie what mods in use and what is load order in use of mods. this may or may not source of anomalys ( in my case some of the engine fix mods caused trubles). okay you writed down your skyrim everiment, then write down what exact version of PAHE and or PAHE and DOM in use. Then waht bug experienced and how to reproduce, what steps you taken. finaly if you have some papyrus log give it to! ok papyrus logs this one is first look a myterius things but not. papyurs logs contain debug information about scripts tat run in the back grund. this one help mod creator trace back errors to source of problems. helps reproduce steps taken to create anomaly and help understand anomalys self. papyrus logs not help fix game crahses by the way... this ones help fix mods inner working. by default skyrim not make papyrus logs. to order skyrim to do this you need to go your document\mygames\skyrimsepcialedition\ here you can locate skyrimCostums.ini this one we going to need edit. before editing i suggest make a backup copy this way if something go wrong you can restore this ini orignial state. i suggest do this any time you go editing any ini file. copy the ini file in separate directory or place where ini file backup not get deleted! then add the fallowing lines to ini file: [Papyrus] bEnableLogging=1 bEnableProfiling=1 bEnableTrace=1 bLoadDebugInformation=1 fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=2000 this one orders skyrim as running to create papyrus log files. this files stored isnide your skyrimspecialedtion directory\Logs\Script named like this papyrus0.log only 4 of them stored here at the same time older ones get reanamed to papyrus1.log or 2.log or 3.log finaly get deleted. if you install base game modifi this setting load a existing game and play witout any mod you going to see tons of error message here. then install unofical skyrim special eddition patch (USSEP) load same game, using SKSE and your papyrus log probably go empty, reason: USSEP fix so many bugs in the base game. This is all propably one need to know how to report bug. Finding it anther intresting thing. First need to know what to expect if doing things with mod. so you can indentifi something not working as intended. After familiar what expect if doing things X way. then do the testing! 2 way to approch this known to me: A-just play the game and see what happens. as it says start new game or load exisitng one and play as normaly you do and watch cerfuly what happens looking for errors. B-Write down what futures inside the mod. After written all down go on the lsit and check one by one. try out evry different combination of event approach that possible. both approch has pros and cons. A variant give more fun and probably more easy to do. optin B many times feel time waste, and not so funy some time. Golden rules: this ones learned by the hard way. i mean surow and tears or virutal ones. 1-save game before start one interaction, always use save game option and create new sava game 2-save often soem times whtin 2 minutes 3-remember exactly what , where, how done. if no good memorys write down the steps 4-if some bug expected shown in papyrus log remember this: new papyrus log created evry game start. ower time old ones get deleted. save separate place the old logs if need keeping up! 5-pressig quick save, opening up esc menu make a mark in the papyrus log. this can be and will be used mark a point of events. this is very helpful if one need locate a specifick event or events in stream of events. after specific event happened opening system menu or quicksaving make a mark in papyrus log then one can do separate things. 6-skyrim is buggy as hell. if you encounter soemthing strange and saved before just quit the game, use qqq console command if you have to. this one quickli quit the game trestarting skyrim this way helps avoid some system based bugs. memory handling buggi in skyrim and this will effect in game events. some times things left in memory and after loading game wird things going to happen. this conclude all my advice about testing, a reporting bugs --------------------------------------- !W36 - Bonus: Slaver character skill plans, more ideas about slaver character ( old version) --------------------------------------- ----------New Section Start--------------- GUIDE VERSION A This mini guide created for cahracters that specialize capture, train and utilize slaves. During slave traning and creating items to use in slave traning your one handed and smihting skill go significant incrase, especialy one handed skill. In slave capture soem times slave you wish capture guarded with other npcs, and open fight can be risky. Maybe your slave going to get killed by accident. to avoid this best use paralyzis or illusion to make capture of slave more easy and steath to avoid open fight. based on this i suggest use of a sneak mage - assasin type character Race: any, probably high elf work best becuse+50 magica Stone: Mage/thief later lord or atronach or any attributes: evrything go magica, with 100 hp evrything fine. if you play correct nothing go damage this character optional: become vempire/vempire lord for illusion and sneak bonus! major skills: illusion-full tree need-13 point sneak-full tree neded-13 point destruction-argument of flames,frost,lighting,dualcast,stagger,novice-adept-8 point minior skills: onehnaded-arsman-5 point restoration-novice-master,healing,necromage,regeneration1,regeneration2,repesite-10 point smithing-steal smithing 1 point total: 50 point Usage: invisibility with muffle and 100 sneak+hide 5 nothing can spot you even if you run in open daylight, so you can do whatever want. if you have 6 combat slaves with you you, just need sit and wait until slaves kill evrything. or you can use illusion, restoration to empower your slaves. or if you wish assainate some enemys using supoerior steatsh skills and assasin blade. steal smithing used to make stronger steal daggers. you can utilize illusion skills to control enemy, force them to not fight. if want capture one enemy, simple: use fear spell on them and capture it. master level restoration allow use bane of undead a powerfull undead killing spell. this oen alone make quick work most undeads or force them flee in one go. destrucion used to overcome more problematic enemys like dragon priest and dragons that immune to illusion effects. dualcasting firebolt stagger them so you can stager lock them until you run out of magica. NOTE: if you high elf and use racial ability and right equipemnts in high levels, using atronach stone(this and being high elf alone give you 200 magica in the start) you not run out of magica GUIDE VERSION B Slaver character goal is specialize capture, train and use slaves. For traning no special skill needed, only restoration can be helpfull some times in pain punishemnt. For usage of slaves expect combat slaves no special skill needed. in combat slaves: illusion corage beased spells has great beinifit becuse incrase slaves hp, and combat abilitys(call to arms). but most slaves very good at fighting expect extrame cases this boost probably not critical. For capture slaves some special skills and tactics probably disired and needed to use. Reason simple: capture slaves require offensive action and this aginst non hostile npcs forbidden, and punished by guards. Put it simple: if one wish capture Nazem and train some good behavior need consider how can be don witout allerting guards. This requiere most cases special skills like sneak, and special spells like paralyize or fear. To capture a target and use as slave, best way probably use paralyzis poision or spell. PAralyzed target can be captured then with ease. Hardest to do this middle of a city in daylight. So good slave hunter need great sneak skills, and paralizis poision or spell. during slave traning one handed skill probably going trained a lot this can be mixed well with sneak skill and assin blade or backstab skill both deal big damage. so my suggestion for slavers character: Race: breton or high elf stone: mage first leater: atronach or lord atributes: 100-200hp perfect for this style of gameplay, rest can go magica Gear: this charater need wear mage robes mostly, for great manna regen. smithing or crafting not needed but can be done. need more and more manna and manaregen! skills: sneak hide-5 point bacstab,deadly aim - 2 point total -7 point illusion novice-expert-4 point aniamge, kindred mage, quet casting-3 total -7point archery owerdraw-5point quickshot-3point total 8 point conjuration novice-expert-4point sumoner,atronacy,elemntal potency-3point mystic bidding, twinsouls -2point total 9 point restoration novice-adept -3point repesite,healing-2point regeneration 1, regeneration2 - 2 point total 7 point alternation novice-expert -4point total -4point grand total: 42 point this cahracter use conjuration, and sneak archery with bound bow to kill things not planned to be captured or canot be captured. this 3 skill alone allow the character complite all base game quests. illusion main usage to cast muffle and invisibility spells this two combined hide 5 allow this cahracter remain undected very long time no matter what this charater do. alternaion expert here for reduce paralzis spell cost. this spell used mainly to stun target that planed to be captured. but can be used suport fight aginst strong enemys. restoration here for suport slaves and heal self+great manna regen bonus. if a palyer wish exploit great one handed skill that get trained using whip on slaves... i suggest put points fallowing one handed perks: arsman-5 point, savage strike and requiesit of this -2 point.( total 7 point) and assasin dagger perk from sneak skill tree. this perks unlock ability to assasinate targets using great steath built in. ----------New Section End--------------- ----------Deleted Section Start--------------- In this chapter i write down some of my theroy what makes a character good slaver, i mean slave hunter and trainer. 1-Basic theorys: Let see what need slave capture: -open combat potenital, close or ranged -ideal if slaver can sneak around so slave can be captured using aduction -if slave flee or paralized even more easy to capture Let see what need for slave handling: -whip -collar -shackle -very good mobility catching up runaway slaves -soem cases restoration and destrucion spells work wonders healing slave under punishment or punishing via destruction spells... based on this let see what skills we need: use whip we use one handed wepons. this leads in open combat best if slaver use one handed wepon. this good becuse not kill instantly like 2 handed wepon some cases. (one handed) creating so many tools for slave handling means we do lot of smithing work ower time ( smithing ) ideal snekaing and planting fear into slaves... this leads sneak and illusion. this 2 skill suport each other well. as incvisible to easy to get close and abduct npcs :) ( sneak, illusion ) restoration useful for survival and restore stamina as slaver try catch a escaping slave, this and need for mobility and steath leads us light armor or no armor ( restoration, light armor/no armor ) i suggest use siheld in open combat, illusion allone strong but many things live in skyrim that immune to illusion and can hurt realy beadly.. like dragons. positive side efect usage of siehld this can be used as low damage wepon for slave capture ( Block ) this character can be viable, one weaknes no ability present to engage ranged targets and enemys like some mages and dragons, if player plan fight aginst this type of things... consider using archery with owerdraw for 5 skill point you get tons of damage for ranged attack... and can be combined with sneak... suggested skill point distribution, priority in this order: Restoration - 8 skill point novice,apratiance,adept-3 regeneration2x -2 healing, necromage,repesite-3 one handed -7 skill point arsman 5x- 5 fighting stance, devastating blow-2 illusion-13 skill point evrything sneak - 8 skill point hide 5x -5 assinblade-3 (if we cant capture using this and illusion we can kill it quick) Light armor -10 Skill point evrything block-9 skill point shield wall-5 deflect arrows,elemental resist,block runner,siheld charge-4 55 skill point toal needed this character point can be put: smithing, archery bot non of this hard requierment Race, standing stone and other statisticks: Altemer is the fastest race to all. Plus get bonus to illusion and +50 max magica. This character has low armor values realay heavy on mobility, steath and restoration to survive. best standing stone this reason Atronach becuse magic attacks hurt a lot and ice spells slow down. This way this character has 200 magica in the "start". 250-300 hitpoint probably enught survive 1-2 hit from most enemys. in open combat relaying on siheld and the fact this one can bash the target knock down. probably best send most point to magica. Big magic reserve allow character use restoration to heal back, or illusion invisibility to escape from truble. Assuming this character fallowed by grup of slaves and or fallower/fallowers this one is good skill combination and not realy on crafting. Limitations: This one has no easy time to kill Alduin or any dragon if not use archery... Light armor without perked smithing not the best thing in skyrim, if one wish play like normal skyrim... Maybe wise switch from light to heavy armor this way more chance to survive. With elemetnal resitence and Atronach stone this one very resistant aginst magic attacks but not immune. Need extra cereful aginst mages. Heavy option: Heavy armor - 11 skill point evrything expect lvl 100 skill smithing - 1 skill point steal smithing - 1 +45 skill point from the basic variant ( Light amor removed ) Total: 57 skillpoint This better in long run than the light armor variant this one reach 80% armor cap, so not go die quick in open combat. With siheld rised damage reduction go somewhere 97% (only psihical damage!) Kill Alduin and other dragons no problem defenetly for this variant. ----------Deleted Section end--------------- --------------------------------------- !W69 - Credits, thanks saying to others who helped create this guide --------------------------------------- I wish say thx first evry one who downloaded, liked, any way commented suported my work with this guide! This make me hapy! :) I hoped i can give back something LL community one day for this many good things here! As for Credits to helping/editing/writing this guide: Big thx TrollAutokill the aouthor of DOM to explaning lot of inner working of DOM, and helping me creation of this guide with advices, comments and writings. :) :) VERY BIG THX for CliftonJD clerifing PAHE things/inner workings --------------------------------------- !W70 - Premissions about this guide --------------------------------------- This guide written for PAHE and PAHE+DOM users, to help understand inner workings and discover this wonderful amazing mods deeps and possibilitys. For this reason i give premission to named mods creators/authors premission for this guide or any latter version,: -use this guide/latter versions as one see fit( do whatever whant with it) -put revelant mods download list so many more find it if feel need it -use any part of this one or later version as see useful This is one of my contribution for PAHE and PAHE+DOM. I hope this one makes good use by community. --------------------------------------- RESERVED --------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- RESERVED ---------------------------------------