IrisCerania

Thank you very much. This mod has always interested me, though I never tried it since it looks so complicated to make this whole thing work and there is no step-by-step guide. I do think I figured out what to do though (Download data pack, put addon stuff into data pack and then put the esps from the "___custom" into the data pack, so that everything can be easily put into OMOD-format, right?). I am wondering though if all esps are supposed to be used at once and if there are any conflicts between certain mods. Oh well, I am gonna try this out and see if this mod is as good as some people say.

So I think I am too stupid to find the download link for the actual data pack of the mod. The link in the OP sends me to another thread, in which I get told to download the data pack in this thread, only in the OP there is nothing about where I can find the actual data pack. Is the link buried in this thread or am I just missing something here?

@DocClox: The main reason why I was worried were the rape mods in Oblivion which were mostly "Have a XX% chance of getting raped when a monster uses a spell that it can use all the time, and it will spam the shit out of that spell even after it has done horrible things to your character about a million times already". So it is a relief that you feel the same way and you want to try and avoid that stuff. When I read about how the quests will go down with a female character I just imagined how that stuff would look like if it was done like these mods in Oblivion: Arbitrary rules that were mostly based on chance and the player not really having any control about whats happening. It is really good to know that this will not be the case for this mod. I admit that I sounded a bit too hostile, so sorry about that. I have no idea what got into my head, maybe I was worried about the mod becoming as bad as the Oblivion ones, maybe I was just tired, I don't know. And about the ratway gameplay stuff: The suggestion was just a silly idea, mostly because I think it would be a funny thing to do to the player, taking away his power trip that he had going on through the whole questline up until now just for once. Also, I have no idea about this since I don't have much knowledge about modding, but will it be possible to reduce or even negate the effect of the lust-spells with a shield or magical barrier that reduces magic damage/effect? If so it might actually be a good tactic for the player to go in with gear that has magic resistance... maybe I should worry about making preparations once the mod actually comes out.

One thing that is bugging me with this mod is that I am worried that dealing with the whole "Play a female PC and she might get raped" thing will get bullshit. What I mean is that for example the whole part in the ratway where the enemies use lust-spells sunds like it could be pretty annoying if done wrong. If it is just a spell like fireball and such, the player has no way of countering that spell other than hoping that he does not get hit and if the enemies can just spam that spell over and over again without the player having any way of getting rid of lust then that could easily mean that the player gets annoyed after a while of "oh no, you got hit one too many times again because you are a melee character and can't dodge while close. Guess you have to see the bad ending again, good luck doing this thing all over." I am not saying that this is how it will end up, I just want to warn you that you still have to keep the gameplay in mind for players who have female characters. I like the idea of having to watch my characters ass so things don't end up badly, but I don't like the idea of having no control of how things turn out. Sorry if this sounds like "I want you to do this mod MY WAY and not YOUR WAY", I am just worried that in the end playing this mod as a female character just won't be fun. By the way, I have a hilarious/terrible idea: instead of the guys in the ratway making themselves look good with magic for a male character, how about they use their magic to subdue the PC, either by slowly frightening him or exhausting him to the point where he can't fight. I just think it would be funny, especially after the player had his power trip going on the whole time, thinking of his character as being incredibly powerful and unbreakable, only to have that illusion get shattered as his mighty warrior gets broken right in before his eyes. That would also make the magic dangerous instead of just being something extra as you fight thorugh yet-another-dungeon.

So I downloaded this time through Mediafire and evrything worked fine there. Downloaded all three parts, unzipped them together and got the esp, esm and bsa file. The bsa file was also large enough that I assumed that the file is the complete file and not just a part of it. I did all of those steps for the fix right as it is written in the Read Me (In other words, throw out the old esp and esm, put in the new esp and the folders) and everything seemed fine. Castle appeared on the map, I walked up to it, opened the door, the game loaded for a very long time and finally, after quite a bit of hassle the game crashed to desktop. So either the .bsa file is also corrupted or something else is wrong. I will try one more thing to make all of this work, but after that I have no idea what it could be. So if anybody has any ideas why this damn thing is still now working I would be happy to hear it. edit: Holy shit, finally got this working. Apparently zipping the needed files up and putting that stuff in the NMM caused the last bit of problem. While that sadly means that I can't uninstall this mod the fast way if I ever want to I at least got this thing working. Now it's time to find out if this was worth the hassle. edit2: Haha, nevermind. Looked around for a few seconds (Yes, I wrote that above just after entering) and it crashed again. I think this mod is trolling me.

I kind of have a problem. When I try to enter the castle, the game starts loading and then crashes. I use the full version. Some background info: At first I downloaded frm the chinese links, which worked well except that apparently I can't download the bsa completely since it starts downloading and after some time it just stops. I used the incomplete file at first and I got many red exclamation marks and purple armor. After that I used the download for the complete pack. A few hours later it finally finished, for some reason the download was bugged, since it showed a nice download-speed but the window actually was frozen for a few seconds, showed some progress and froze again. It's kinda hard to describe. I was using Firefox for that so... who knows what's up with that? Anyways, I unpacked the file, put all that stuff in the data folder and when I entered the castle, it crashed. I downloaded the hotfix then hoping it would help but no such luck. I will try to get a new .bsa file since that might be the problem. But if you have any idea what the reason could be I would be really thankful for your help.

Quick question from somebody without modding experience: So what exactly does it mean that we are subject to Fores whim? Is it so that only he knows the process and thus we need to ask him to put our animations into the mod or what? If that´s so, couldn´t we try to reverse-engineer his mod and what little information he gave us to try to find ou how he does that? I am guessing that finding out how he does that would be hard but maybe what little we know of the process might be enough to at least get started. We now know it´s possible, we just need to find out how it´s possible. Or maybe I am misunderstanding that issue completely. But the 400 animation li it sounds bad. There will be overlaps, so if we ever get to do our own animations the modders here must coordinate. Maybe some kind of thread with a list in the OP of all slots, showing which ones are reserved, which ones are open and which slots are used by multiple mods, making these incompatible. That would require work though and considering some OPs I have seen for actually popular mods this might be a little much to ask for. Also it would be harder to incorporate 3rd party mods into that whole mess. Anyways, if what I wrote up there is a load of junk then I am sorry. My poor excuse is that I am writing on a 3DS making it hard to form arguments that are longer than 10 words.

Maybe my browser just doesn't want to load it if it is there, but could you add some kind of picture of the armor for those who don't know how it looks like?

There are a few things that I want to say about this: First, I don´t like the idea of making the quest harder for a female PC. Especially the whole Riften-part seems to be harder for a woman. A man only has to worry about ugly NPC´s looking good (oh, the horror) while a woman has to deal with the whole ´get hit x times and it´s game over´ thing. I know that realistically it might make sense that such a business is harder for a woman to run than a man, but let´s just put it that way: there are men and women in Skyrim, both seemimgly on equal footing social-wise and all in all there doesn´t seem to be much sexism if at all. So it might make sense that a slaves guild might try to appease to both sexes and thus, has male and female members while also having male and female slaves. If anybody doesn´t like the idea of handling male slaves, they could make that a job for another (most likely female) member. What that has to do with that quest? I dunno, but I guess by trying to insert some sort of gender-equality in that quest it might be easier for a female character. Also I like the idea of somebody being pissed because his incredibly strong and muscular male PC is getting raped by a woman the same way female PC player would be. Of course that is more of an joke option than a serious suggestion but I don´t know, adding in one such moment might actually be funny just to reverse the roles. In summary, add in equal footing for both gender in a way that makes it fun to play as both genders. Some people might just not like the idea of their female character getting raped in some (possibly arbritrary) way. Make the slavers both male and female, likewise with the slaves. Also, add in the option to let members of the guild handle specific cases so that if somebody doesn´t want to enslave a man for example, they can send a team to do it. That would not only add in more content, make the guild seem less like a ´woman-rapist-club´ and more like a ´general-sex-slave-store´ (thus getting rid of quedtions like ´what if a woman wants a male slave´, ´what if a man wants a male slave´ and ´what if a customer wants a breeding pair for whatever sick reason´). And if anybody doesn´t like to deal with raping either of the gender, they can send a team to do that (which might have the penalty to take longer because... I don´t know. Better than some sort of ´XX% of failure´ deal) And one last thing: I don´t know why but being able to tell a guildmember of either gender to deal with a slave of either gender might be a good idea. It might make it easier to organise that stuff and it gives the player more options, which is always a good thing. So, if I made myself look like a dumbass it´s because I haven´t read through the whole thread (sorry about that, I just had to put all of these ideas somewhere) and I am also writing on a 3DS which isn´t that easy. Anyway, give my suggestions at least a thought, alright?

How about all the loli-talk get's moved to another topic made for it? That way people who want to talk about that whole loli-stuff can talk about it and discuss it there. I am suggesting that because this isn't really the topic for that discussion and not the right place, and if another topic for the loli-talk get's made, then people who also have an opinion on that matter can talk about it there. What I am trying to say is that this debate should get moved to another place where it can be discussed without it interrupting what this thread is about, mainly finding some cloth's for a girl. I am sorry since this sounds a lot like backseat-modding but I couldn't resist throwing that idea out here. On the actual topic, I can't help so sorry.

All right, thanks a lot for the quick answer. I will wait then until the new release comes out. If bandits work too instead of random people in the city's then that's pretty nice. I actually started a list of places where bandit's hang around (mostly to be able to get new and better armor as I level up) so there shouldn't be a problem of finding those. Well, I don't know what that Lord of Chains guy does, but as long as he doesn't appear too much it shouldn't be a problem. I don't really know what to think of it when you say "grossly male" though, so for now I will just expect a big, burly and muscled guy with hair on his chest, no shirt, a cigar in his mouth, rocket launcher in one hand and a machine gun in another. Wait a second, do you mean that using OBMM will not work/will definitely cause problems or that OBMM might work? I just wnat to know if manually installing this is required since I have never done that before. I guess I could figure out how to do this but first I want to know for sure before I do any experiments. edit: Looks like in the time I wrote that there was some more information. Thanks uglycat, that s also quite helpful. I might do some testing with the female only mod to see if that works or not, and if males are needed I could just search for a mod that adds a male NPC to the game and milk that guy for what he is worth (I can't believe I just wrote that). Who knows, maybe testing it with the female only mod will result in some interesting and unexpected things.

This mod seems to be quite interesting. Though while there are some parts that I am interested in there are other things that aren't that appealing to me. So I have a few question about this mod. How long will it take to play through this mod? There seems to be quite some content and I am wondering if this means that it will take longer to see what this mod has to offer. It seems that there is quite a bit of public sex involved in this mod. Do I need to have a lot of that, or are there ways to get around this, so that I don't have to do it for example in the middle of IC? Also, with the newly released mod that changes the vanilla NPC's into women, would there be any trouble if I used that mod? As you may have guessed I don't really like involving men in that kind of stuff so I would like to evade that. And to put it blunt because I guess I don't really need to sugarcoat here why I am interested in that information, how long until the egg-stuff and tentacle-stuff happens? I admit that that is a big reason why I am interested in that mod and would like to know how much time I have to invest until I get to that part. Last but not least: Considering all that talk about bugs and stuff, how save is the current version, which mods should I have and should I not have, and what should I watch out for? Having all that information in one place might be useful for other people who don't really know now how to handle these problems now even after reading the last few pages. It seems like an interesting mod and though there are of course still some bugs a lot of work seems to have went into it. Though I am not really sure if I should check it out or not, so it would definitely help if somebody answers my questions.

I have a question in regards to the requirements. The question is simply: Where can I find Modular Beautiful People and x 117? The link in the OP states that it is in this thread and links to this thread (though only to the first post, don't know if that was intended) but I don't know if that means that I am missing something in the OP or if the mods are somewhere in this thread. I know that this sound pretty lazy, and I don't want to pretend that this is anything other than lazyness on my part that I ask this, but if the mod is found somewhere in this thread, where do I find it? Kind of a long post for that question, I guess. If anybody is willing to help me, it would be really aprecciated (Spelled that one wrong I think, can anybody tell me how it should be written?). Edit: Believe it or not, I found a topic where there are links to the mods just after posting this. So just forget what I said here.